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swarm launchers.... just refund my tank SP then and wel call it even

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Man I know CCP wants to do their own thing but there are so many games out there that have such good mechanics like this. When I saw this I just thought of bf3. They do it but look a dropship full of MDs or swarms won't be that effective because you will most likely only shoot from one side. Adding to this request making dust more like bf3 why not let us attach remote explosives to vehicles. Bring back jihad jeeps.

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I think that passenger should also be able to use the repair tool from inside the dropship.
Another thing is that if the DS is on fire it always explodes, it's a scripted behaviour, to many times i activated the reppers who brought my DS to half armor, just to see that explode.

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i like this idea, how bout u do it to lavs also and let us shoou out of the pasenger sea there too, dropships are prety much worthless for the risk involved currently and a change like this could definatly balence it out a little more.

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OP-ness of infantry weapons gunning out of vehicles could be reduced by the recoil influencing flight path/speed or penalty to overheating or penalty to lock-on timer or penalty to aim angle and range.

Plenty of opportunities to nerfs & buffs to achieve balance.

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what about equipment? this is not offensive and can be out DPSed by almost every AV weapon

Hmm, good question. I can see a dropship flying to a tower or something and a passenger drops a hive and/or uplink without needing to hop out. Then flying off to help someone else.

Incoming tank? Have a teammate drop some proxies along the road mid flight then flank back behind the tank and shoot at him so he keeps moving towards the trap.

Now that I think about it. You could restrict it to vehicle type. Assault vehicles allow passengers to use weapons(they have fewer seats, don't they?), Logi/Scout allow players to use equipment. None specced vehicles restrict passenger abilities.

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

Talked about this a few times with Corp mates. We thought any heavy weapons would be OP. IMO swarm launchers should be a heavy weapon but since they're not I would only want to see sidearms in the passenger seats.

So my vote is sidearms only.

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Dropships now are not so much threat like vehicles should be. It pretty thin and cannot deliver much DPS.

If we allow people use swarms inside dropships it will not be untouchable weapon, because when they shoot all their ammo, they have to go out :)

I think allowing customize dropships's DPS and type of damage in that way is a great idea:
Take 2 gunners and 4 swarm launchers - you are ultimate vehicle destroyer. Forgegun can shoot you as usual, and when it happens your passengers are easy frag crowd.
Take 2 gunners and 4 mass drivers - you can protect any NULL cannon, but need to stand still and low, vulnerable to everyone. And when they out of ammo - they easy frags again.
Take 2 gunners and 4 forgeguns - well, I think, they kill can themselves and dropship too while maneuvering from time to time... But if not, maybe you realize at last, that forgeguns are too overpowered?

Returning to swarms - if you think 4 swarms can fill a dropship, why 4 swarms can not gather and shoot that dropship? 2 shoots from each player will be enough to kill any dropship.

I want to say, that at now drophips are at low dps, high cost and low HP. My Python not get killed every match only because I am not so much threat to other players. If we increase dropship's threat level, then they will be shot down more often and delivering, say, 4 swarms DPS to other players will be quite tricky. Maybe it will teach other players to look to the sky ;)

this might sound good to you in theory but as I stated above, this will make the game broken. Dropships and other weapons along those lines that could allow forge guns and swarm launchers to shoot out of them, would simply just kill everything, giving no meaning to much of anything. You should think over how it will impact those who have invest time in vehicles, and various other things. Should I bring up the point about when the flaylock was hated by everyone with a light weapon?

Uprising 1.4 Patch Notes:
(...)
* Swarm Launcher base lock-on time has been increased to 1.4 from 1.2 and it's fire interval has been reduced from 2 to 0.3
(...)

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Gabriella, as of Uprising 1.4 patch coming out on September 3rd, swarm launcher RoF will increase, meaning you will be able to take down vehicles in no time compared with current version.

Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104023&find=unread

You will be able to fire every 1.7 seconds and not every 3,2 seconds. It's over 47% time reduction. Even considering reduced clip size, you should be able to out pace armor reppers. Considering changes for 1.5 and onward there will be huge change to active modules mechanics giving more opportunities to AV team play.

It can be "interesting", fun and engaging...

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Also assault dropships should have a built in afterburner.
Summary:

• Repair tool, active scanner, usage from inside DS (from STD level)
• Built in afterburner for ADS
• Better zoom for turrets
• Better fly controls (this is difficult, but especially ADS need it, maneuvering the turret with the same stick we use for moving the DS is annoying)
• Allow passengers to see outside, it's very difficult to see where we have to drop ourself (3rd person view for passengers)
• A button for hover mode/ fly in statical position, it will also help maneuvering DS, like a drive assistant
• Time limit before DS explode when it's on fire, like 2 seconds, to allow emergency reparations.

I would add something else, but now i can't think about nothing else.

Didn't they remove the "on fire thing" in 1.4?

Not sure I like the Ideas I quoted, most making the ADS dull to play with, since it is the vehicle requiring the most skills at the moment, which is the reason I play it. I deleted the one I agreed with in your posts

But I might add the outrageous cost of the ADS and Logi DS should be brought down a bit. For a lvl3 vehicle without edges over low cost AV players, makes the DS not so enjoyable for the long run. ADS cost around 1.3M when well fitted. Quite expensive for the fun factor/efficiency/ durability.

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This is exactly why it could be a problem.

I really like the idea of firing out of a dropship as it lands and then hopping out to continue a rampage, but this kind of thing presents a huge obstacle to it being reasonable.

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Well swarms need that little bit of space when they shoot, mass drivers would need to be relatively close to the ground so that the rounds don't explode in mid air. Perhaps if a mass driver round hit the inside of the DS then it would damage the dropship.

Talked about this a few times with Corp mates. We thought any heavy weapons would be OP. IMO swarm launchers should be a heavy weapon but since they're not I would only want to see sidearms in the passenger seats.

So my vote is sidearms only.

i have had mass driver rounds hit my dropship and kill my gunners pretty easy.

the passengers are easy targets, but when properly position this can be deadly.

Seemes like an ideal position for a mass driver to support units on the ground,

swarms on the other hand I can see getting out out of hand, take the drop ship to mid ceiling and have swarms rain down with no way of a counter.

Massdrivers could just get shot out easily at thier op range with the bay doors open

Quick idea for drop ships seeing we're on the subject of the "open bay doors feature"

Make it so the only way people can 'drop' or abandon a drop ship is when the bay doors are open

This would somewhat solve the lack of kills when downing a drop ship and placing a duty to the pilot to remember too open the doors to save his crew/gunners if he's going down or dropping people off

this might sound good to you in theory but as I stated above, this will make the game broken. Dropships and other weapons along those lines that could allow forge guns and swarm launchers to shoot out of them, would simply just kill everything, giving no meaning to much of anything. You should think over how it will impact those who have invest time in vehicles, and various other things. Should I bring up the point about when the flaylock was hated by everyone with a light weapon?

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My recommendation is to limit weapons to sidearms only when shooting from the passenger seat. Seems the best way to handle it, and in a "real world" application (snicker) it seems the most likely to happen.

God no...The MD's need to be nerfed already, people are seriously abusing the EXO and freedom as it is.

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A great way to break the game even more.

Forge gun trails are very rarely seen.
Swarms can be invisible a significant portion of the time.
Any MD at elevation is difficult to take out now. Imagine them at 100m.

Now put all of them at a significant height above the battlefield. Most weapons will be unable to respond.

Not to mention that Drop Ships are invisible a portion of their flight path because of the recent Great Draw Path Optimization. But the grass is very pretty as it Freaking Grows while you walk by. So natural.

And, I agree that it should include a full SP refund not only for Tanks but for my Heavy as well.

Hey! Maybe this is the start of a continual CCP/Shanghai releases something ugly and everyone gets a full SP respec to avoid it cycle. That might work ... Not.

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I would limit any high-damaging weapons from being able to fire out of DS's. Would cause too much grief.

Define high damaging, Forge guns? Mass driver? Snipers? Swarm launchers?

high damage = ARs

Haha I say forge gun is OP, it does more damage than a rail cannon on a tank

EDIT: I think forge guns are high damage :p

Haha I say forge gun is OP, it does more damage than a rail cannon on a tank

EDIT: I think forge guns are high damage :p

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The only reason people are freaking out at hand held weapons is that turrets are currently pop guns that don't inspire fear.

The vehicle rebuild promises to buff damage output and add burst defense for brief hard hitting engagements. As such it's going to be buffing small turrets for dropships. That should make them better the hand held weapons which will then make personal weapons much less of an issue. One that can be balanced by vulnerability and the need to hold he ship rock steady because only the turrets shield their gunners and have stability augmentation.

Well I think any heavy weapons being shot from inside should seriously offbalance and shake the dropship. Swarms and massdriver would be pretty fine because they couldn't have a sustained presence in the air- They wont be able to use nanohives in the dropship and would quickly run out of ammo. Also as other people have said its got a big risk. One proper tank or AV guy could destroy an entire squad by killing one dropship.
I think all of this would only work when we have vehicle locks though, because we can just imagine how blueberries will camp inside your dropship for a whole game now that they could shoot out of it, or a full squad of blueberry forge gunners inside your dropship would flip it upside-down.

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Create a new turret placement for infantry to use their own weapons. Only 2 players would be able to do it per dropship and the ship would be sacrificing its small turrets to do so. Most weapons would be useless because the height that dropships have to fly at in order to avoid being demolished would put them beyond reasonable range. Mass drivers would be great but you'd have to fly about 25m off the ground and keep it steady for them to actually hit anyone on the ground because the rounds expire after a few seconds.

The biggest issue would be forge guns and swarms taking out tanks from the sky - this could be averted by simply making the swarms and forge blast hit the dropship itself because you really shouldn't be firing something that powerful from a paper plane.

I just think its funny how often people say things like "Derp Realism! // justify some random OP thing because it's Realistic.

But when it comes to shooting guns out of a helicopter essentially, suddenly there are all these artificial restrictions.

Side arms only
Can't use scopes
Not certain guns
etc.


Hmmmm, where are all the realism proponents now?

Snipers on DS = easy counter snipe. It's not as if they can hide up there.

snipe someone out of a ds, someone thinks highly of his sniping skills. only takes the pilot to rotate the ship slightly every few secs and at that height your going to have a really hard time. the player on the ground no matter where he/she is will be practically shooting directly up which means you must be in the right position at the right time to get them. if that ds is slowly rotating then you have little chance of counter sniping him. imagine trying to shoot someone off a tower from the base of the tower. thats exactly how its going to be with the dropship at max height. and at that height he is more likely to see you before you get a good shot on him

wat

not if your already on top of your MCC

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I just think its funny how often people say things like "Derp Realism! // justify some random OP thing because it's Realistic.

But when it comes to shooting guns out of a helicopter essentially, suddenly there are all these artificial restrictions.

Side arms only
Can't use scopes
Not certain guns
etc.


Hmmmm, where are all the realism proponents now?

yeah. thats what ive been saying.

snipe someone out of a ds, someone thinks highly of his sniping skills. only takes the pilot to rotate the ship slightly every few secs and at that height your going to have a really hard time. the player on the ground no matter where he/she is will be practically shooting directly up which means you must be in the right position at the right time to get them. if that ds is slowly rotating then you have little chance of counter sniping him. imagine trying to shoot someone off a tower from the base of the tower. thats exactly how its going to be with the dropship at max height. and at that height he is more likely to see you before you get a good shot on him

When dust was on the carbon engine, you were able to do this.

Video link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKtYqWBR7h0

What sidearm has the range to be even minimally useful from a dropship?

nova knives

I think it's about having to hold on while flying around. I think while flying you can shoot sidearms and non shoulder mounted light weapons form the hip. If the DS is stable you can crouch (better balance) and fire anything with aim down sights. Too much speed/acceleration and you stand up instantly loosing lock-on for swarms and charge on FG.

Ah, but heres another question. Is it really acceptable for gunners to shoot out of a dropship with shields? Wouldn't their weapons just hit the shields?

Ah, but heres another question. Is it really acceptable for gunners to shoot out of a dropship with shields? Wouldn't their weapons just hit the shields?

I imagine you'd have your feet locked in like a snowboard. Or be sitting down. Or magnets.

I think it's about having to hold on while flying around. I think while flying you can shoot sidearms and non shoulder mounted light weapons form the hip. If the DS is stable you can crouch (better balance) and fire anything with aim down sights. Too much speed/acceleration and you stand up instantly loosing lock-on for swarms and charge on FG.

these guys are clearly shooting out of a helicopter with LMGs, and ARs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7O7ovNi42U

in modern ware, and modern warefare 2, and modern warefare 3, there were several spots in the story mode where you could shoot from helicopters... and of course enemies could shoot oyu back. for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kYtesQkVI
go to 1:58 second marker and see what he does

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mij3IwTghHg
notice 12:51 and beyond

ooppss... they didn't.

The shields don't cover the passenger bay. You can shoot right through the middle of a dropship with its doors open.

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People can be Shooting running pigs with an AR from a fast moving aerial vehicle?



'Dropship Realism proponent's' ironic response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWjDYz2ldN0

Perhaps this was suggested already... I'd say make it so that swarms kill passengers unless the bay doors are closed. Adding an element of skill to the equation.

I don't think MD and swarms will be massively overpowered, since it's hard to restock ammunition in-air and you are still a giant target.

People can be Shooting running pigs with an AR from a fast moving aerial vehicle?



'Dropship Realism proponent's' ironic response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWjDYz2ldN0

Seriously why is anyone against this idea? Because people might rain death from a dropship? Good, at this point if you're not a damn good assault pilot the only use for a dropship is to get people on to rooftops anyway, or just across the map in general. Once jets come out there would be no point for a dropship because they would probably be shot out of the sky even quicker than they are now. I'm sorry but vehicles exist in this game, unfortunately they're kinda crappy, instead of making them crappier so YOU don't have to deal with it in you're favorite suit, how about making them better so pilots can feel important and so you can try something new? I'm sure all of you complainers out there will find a way to adapt, and if not then I guess you're gonna get left behind, let change happen.

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I sense sarcasm.

I don't think you understand how terrible 4 people launching MD or forge blasts from a DS would be. Not only would it be the only thing that people did it would ruin anyother tactics people tried to use to stop it. A good DS pilot can easily out maneuver any ground based AV and giving them a hord of mass drivers or forge gunners inside would make them impossibly strong.

Doing this without restrictions would mean tanks would become useless. No infantry would be able to venture out from cover, and the game as we know it would fundamentally change in a way that would be horrible for 90% of the game's player base.

There need to be restrictions on this sort of thing to prevent crazy amounts of explosive OHK spam from above.

I don't think you understand how terrible 4 people launching MD or forge blasts from a DS would be. Not only would it be the only thing that people did it would ruin anyother tactics people tried to use to stop it. A good DS pilot can easily out maneuver any ground based AV and giving them a hord of mass drivers or forge gunners inside would make them impossibly strong.

Doing this without restrictions would mean tanks would become useless. No infantry would be able to venture out from cover, and the game as we know it would fundamentally change in a way that would be horrible for 90% of the game's player base.

There need to be restrictions on this sort of thing to prevent crazy amounts of explosive OHK spam from above.

I think that we would stop seeing dropships full of swarms and mass drivers about 3 days after we were allows to do it. Once all the dropship pilots realize that they won't make it 10 feet off the ground because of all the AV that will be headed their way, you won't see many dropships at all.

It's funny how all of you think this would be some unkillable abomination in the sky when it would only take half the number of players in the dropship to shoot it down with ease. And if that's not bad enough then destroyer HAVs are in the not-too-distant future so that's one more thing to shoot you down. Don't forget about fighters too whenever they show up.

So Woman, now that we have established that those tactics wouldn't be that difficult to counter, how about we make one of the Minmatar small turrets a belt-fed, automatic mass driver? Basically a Mk 19 grenade launcher used by current day military vehicles.

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in every vehicle with a passanger seath that does not have a turret should allow the occupant to fire their side arm, and only the side arm, it allows you to do more than nurse kill assists and keeps it from being over powered

If you let people shoot out Commandos would have a happy home.

Swarm Launcher & Mass Driver

Who wouldnt love being shot at by 2 commandos and 2 heavies with Forge Guns + the guns in the DS.


As long as they make it so when you "over kill" a Drop Ship it explodes killing every one. I would love getting 7 kills with my proto swarm launcher!

Not to bully, but did you read any of the other posts in this thread? They explain why that is a poor idea, and why primaries would still be viable without being too powerful.

Also, have you piloted, or been a flying gunner?

To all ready to post here:
Please back up your reasonings with a sound argument. (Wow, did I just ask that of the internet!?)
It'll make for less rage, and better fights!

That would be fine with me. When the dropship hits 0HP it should explode in mid air and not on the ground. Its just stilly that the dropship is the only exception to it while tanks and LAV's allready instantly explode.

no when tanks and LAVs catch fire they have time to escape.

I think its a nice mechanic to have the dropship crash instead of explode mid air.... thats actually realistic. the only things that should blow up a dropship mid air are rail cannons on tanks or rail turrets.

Wrong vehicles dont catch fire if the incoming damage is greater then the total amount of HP left remaining. The only time where vehicles in dust catch fire is when they survived a critical blow with like less then 200HP left remaining on armor. When they burn they can survive for like 3 secs on 0HP but at that point a militia AR can finish them off.
Example on how it works currently:
-LAV gets 1 shoted by a forgegun with no chance of bailing from the vehicle
-Dropship gets aswell "1 shoted" but it doesnt explode the engine just simply fails while the vehicle itself is still intact. The finishing blow in this case is then when the dropship hits the ground.
So you see the dropship crew has like 2 secs to bail from the vehicle while tanks and lavs explode instantly with no "bail timer".

It would make me feel all squishy inside :3

But for real, sounds kinda/ possibly/ potentially op to me :/

How about limiting the weapons to rifles, smg's, pistols etc.?

i'm tired of ppl still whining about weapons they already weakened i havn't been killed by a mass driver in ages

i'm tired of ppl still whining about weapons they already weakened i havn't been killed by a mass driver in ages

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That's impressive the way I use em lol, still shouldn't be nerfed, just give people buffs, how about giving people an explosive damage dampener or something? I think that when 1.4 rolls around and people start armor tanking there will be people who are far more difficult to kill with it, maybe then people will stop screaming OP

Huge fan. I would refer to this as the Dust equivalent to the AC-130 .

Come on CCP just do it already!!!!!

This thread is a good example this forum needs the polling system. CCP you will not have to scour threadnaughts for assessing ratio of negative positive responses.

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About the same as I would with a dropship filled with forgeguns.

That would change the game FOTM to dropships gunboats loaded up with Massdrivers and forgegun passengers. A high reward low risk situation with minimal to no retaliation opportunity for ground based troops without A/V.

Dropships currently fill the same role as a helicopter in current combat, and the side turrets meet that need well. (Though adding a spot for a rear gun, or allowing the forward facing gun to be run by a co-pilot/gunner would be a nice separation of duties.)

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Thats potentially 7 kills in two or three shots of a forge or railgun however.... :) 'all the eggs in one basket...'

I assume this is something you guys at CCP have discussed before and come to the same conclusion as some people here that it could be a problem. However could it be balanced say by reducing passenger slots?

For example: Have the 2 usual gunners and then only 2 passengers at the doorways with the ability to fire weapons? (Total of 5 people including the pilot)

About the same as I would with a dropship filled with forgeguns.

That would change the game FOTM to dropships gunboats loaded up with Massdrivers and forgegun passengers. A high reward low risk situation with minimal to no retaliation opportunity for ground based troops without A/V.

Dropships currently fill the same role as a helicopter in current combat, and the side turrets meet that need well. (Though adding a spot for a rear gun, or allowing the forward facing gun to be run by a co-pilot/gunner would be a nice separation of duties.)

the larger capacity variants of the dropship is designed to transport teams... Assault dropships carry less passengers, I don't think its best for the game that, as stated previously, should weapons that can dominate with a great presence should be shot from dropships or any vehicle for that matter. Especially if they can clearly show that the result is a broken gameplay positive for dropships or more negative. Dropships have turrets, and that is exactly what they are designed for, why make them obsolete? If people are allowed to shoot out of dropships, it should be weaponry that can not cause a mass anarchy to vehicles or making a raid from out of a dropship over powered, in the case of the mass driver.

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Dropships are fragile, but a good pilot knows where they should and shouldn't go. It is so frustrating to hear from people wanting to operate along the same lines as a tank or similar how a murder taxi use to be. There are tons of pilot forums by great players who have taken the time to go through what is needed for dropships and what you should be aware of. If you are in doubt you should read the previous replies by many veteran pilots and new pilots alike. I honestly think the a few post above have not even taken in the consideration how this would just break the game for pilots and for other vehicles as well. Sometimes one should think how things will effect the game as a whole rather than what they think would be great no matter the circumstances. Further more if you want to compare something how infantry weapons are, even though its off subject, how easy do you think aim assist will be when taking out other vehicles and turrets with such a large hit box? I think the lot of you are not even giving any serious thought to what you are posting in regards to vehicles.

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Would need to stop equipment not deploying for heights

Err... you're saying it SHOULD enable like that? i beg to disagree.

"milspec" or not, it's hard for me to imagine a nanohive or other EQ deploying after it comes to terminal impact, after reaching lets say 30m/s

There might be a high-end variant costing $$$ that is specialized for that sort of thing, perhaps. But I dont think the militia grade stuff should be able to handle that.

Please do this CCP!!!!!! I am really happy with 1.4 and I want something to look foreward too!!!!!!

TAnker: Oh dropship! im gonna bring it down!

*Drop ship lights up*

Tanker: What is that?
Gunner 1: Im not sure, it seems like some kind of missiles maybe?

Blind Tanker [Proto Swarm Launcher] Troll Passenger
Parasite Gunners [Proto Swarm Launcher] Troll Passenger
Parasite Gunners [Proto Swarm Launcher] Troll Passenger

LEt the Dropship fight tanks so that infantry can focus on infantry. AH..i love this idea.

Plus, I'd like to point out something: What if Wolfman decides to buff DS's tank? then what? You still think that the apparent "flying coffins" would still be able to use the high-powered weapons inside?

God no...The MD's need to be nerfed already, people are seriously abusing the EXO and freedom as it is.

Agreed, can't take on these guys even with my heavy suit. I have to pray I kill them before they turn around and start blasting me.

Calling CCP Wolfman, calling CCP Wolfman...

Do you still follow this thread? Have your post was serious invite for discussion or just sarcasm to troll us?

What is your general impression on the DUST (forum) community reception of the OP idea based on this thread posts? I can't be objective cos i'm pro it and my impression is there are more ppl who love it compared to haters Am i wrong or right?

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

i posted this in general discussion, but i feel it needs to be in this section