I run assault AR quite frequently and I would like to see this happen. Come on, DLH, we get it - you don't like ARs. The people that are opposed to this idea are referring to weapons that are already being abused on the ground like mass drivers. There are even some that feel that forge guns and swarm launchers would be overpowered in this scenario. It is true that you can dump a lot of firepower out of a dropship, but it is a single point target also. Instead of wasting your time popping shots at a dropship for maybe one kill you could possibly take out a whole squad. They will be in a position to get some great shots in, but they will also be in a position to receive some great shots. My forge gun fitting could be devastating to a setup like this.

I do have a request if this is implemented, however. It should also be added that dropships that sustain damage beyond HP capacity explode instantly in the sky instead of having to impact the ground first. If we hit them hard enough we want the gratification of fireworks and kills.

I run assault AR quite frequently and I would like to see this happen. Come on, DLH, we get it - you don't like ARs. The people that are opposed to this idea are referring to weapons that are already being abused on the ground like mass drivers. There are even some that feel that forge guns and swarm launchers would be overpowered in this scenario. It is true that you can dump a lot of firepower out of a dropship, but it is a single point target also. Instead of wasting your time popping shots at a dropship for maybe one kill you could possibly take out a whole squad. They will be in a position to get some great shots in, but they will also be in a position to receive some great shots. My forge gun fitting could be devastating to a setup like this.

I do have a request if this is implemented, however. It should also be added that dropships that sustain damage beyond HP capacity explode instantly in the sky instead of having to impact the ground first. If we hit them hard enough we want the gratification of fireworks and kills.

I run assault AR quite frequently and I would like to see this happen. Come on, DLH, we get it - you don't like ARs. The people that are opposed to this idea are referring to weapons that are already being abused on the ground like mass drivers. There are even some that feel that forge guns and swarm launchers would be overpowered in this scenario. It is true that you can dump a lot of firepower out of a dropship, but it is a single point target also. Instead of wasting your time popping shots at a dropship for maybe one kill you could possibly take out a whole squad. They will be in a position to get some great shots in, but they will also be in a position to receive some great shots. My forge gun fitting could be devastating to a setup like this.

I do have a request if this is implemented, however. It should also be added that dropships that sustain damage beyond HP capacity explode instantly in the sky instead of having to impact the ground first. If we hit them hard enough we want the gratification of fireworks and kills.

Don't pull a spelling and grammar hammer unless you're proficiency 5 in it.

Right now the ds is a flying "scout" we go down in one hit the only difference is atleast scouts have shotguns
This will be our shotgun
Our way to fight back
Especially since turrets have terrible range

And in that case I want the cost of a Python dropped to half. You guys already give me hell. If I take 1 guy down with my XT accelerated missile I get 3 of you guys hunting me down like it's your soul purpose in life to see me burn. The payout blows for someone who enjoys flying or tanking. I mean no hate man, it does take skill to hit me if I'm maneuvering well, but I shouldn't have to go 5 or 6 games just to buy a copy for one of yall to blow it to hell. Especially if ALL your SP is in VEHICLES.... It really hurts the wallet. Seriously though, I still respect the F.G. if you're not sniping with it all game.

My three misses to your initial five... It appears my proficiency is higher.

And in that case I want the cost of a Python dropped to half. You guys already give me hell. If I take 1 guy down with my XT accelerated missile I get 3 of you guys hunting me down like it's your soul purpose in life to see me burn. The payout blows for someone who enjoys flying or tanking. I mean no hate man, it does take skill to hit me if I'm maneuvering well, but I shouldn't have to go 5 or 6 games just to buy a copy for one of yall to blow it to hell. Especially if ALL your SP is in VEHICLES.... It really hurts the wallet. Seriously though, I still respect the F.G. if you're not sniping with it all game.

While we're at it. Let the LAV passengers shoot too

Wrong. I had to switch to my Hammer suit. You made me do it. I was just saying don't pull one out unless you yourself are impeccable.
I agree with player misfires throwing off a DS, but not FF outside of PC and FW.
I do, however, believe in DS doors being pilot controlled, at any height. It exposes the Mercs to all arms fire, making them easy targets, even to swarms. That wouldn't be OP. Also, a pilot would need to slow down for his gunners to hit anything with the current physics. So, slowdown is already included.

Ok. I'll rescind the desire for FF inside the DS, but there has to be a consequence to weapon fire not making it out of the bay or someone trying to shoot/grenade while the bay doors are closed.

The only DS I've ever one shotted is an unmodified militia DS straight off the market.

On the subject, I have no issue with passengers being able to fire from a DS, with open bay doors, as long as friendly fire is on inside the DS and it's possible for player "errors" to damage the DS and passengers. Examples include passenger AV/explosive fire "accidentally" discharging while pointing into the bay or hitting the sides from the inside like one can with the turrets. Though the turrets don't damage the DS. And the doors only open while moving at slow speeds and hovering.

While we're at it. Let the LAV passengers shoot too

I think if this idea was implemented, Bay doors would be a whole lot more useful. I think that you should only be able to fire out of the ship if the bay doors are open, however a lucky shot or a skilled sniper could still get at you. If these doors were closed, you can't shoot out, but any small arms fire below would have to aim carefully to be able to shoot the passengers.
Also, I think the pilot of a dropship should be able to get shot , so that hilarity would ensue when all passengers of the dropship suddenly start to drop, and bail just a second too late. IDK how many times I was playing as a sniper when suddenly a pilot of a ADS was facing my direction and shooting at my teammates while I simply watched.

I said it should alter DS trajectory.

I think if this idea was implemented, Bay doors would be a whole lot more useful. I think that you should only be able to fire out of the ship if the bay doors are open, however a lucky shot or a skilled sniper could still get at you. If these doors were closed, you can't shoot out, but any small arms fire below would have to aim carefully to be able to shoot the passengers.
Also, I think the pilot of a dropship should be able to get shot , so that hilarity would ensue when all passengers of the dropship suddenly start to drop, and bail just a second too late. IDK how many times I was playing as a sniper when suddenly a pilot of a ADS was facing my direction and shooting at my teammates while I simply watched.

..... That would make me throw an absolute fit. Do you know how much a python costs? It would be different if it were like halo and it was free, but it's not. A good 6 games worth of pay out the window. As if we weren't squishy enough, plus the skill it takes to hit someone on top of that is no joke. A forge gun can take me in 2 at least 3 hits. A swarmer can in about 3 hits... now you want SNIPERS to be able to snipe me out?! You might as well just take the damn things out of the game entirely, they are gimped enough already.

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

Excellent point. A simple solution in my mind, allow passengers to shoot only while the bay doors are open.

This would give the bay doors an actual function, possibly encourage pilots to make real landings instead of hot-drops, and prevent DS's from becoming too OP.

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?