Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

It's coming still, but not in 1.5 or 1.6.

(And removing a turret removes the seat )

Dropped in to remind this "sad" news (in No Turret removal :'():Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1352151#post1352151

From the other hand it's a good sign CCP seriously considers infantry firearms on board and not to make this too OP.

One "penalty direction" came to my mind today to limit alleged OPness of this. Make it available only when somebody gets certain weapon use at Lvl 5, but weapon will behave like that skill being at lvl 1 (with all child skills affected/temporarily disabled while on board and using said weapon). Happy?

Beside, remember infantry weapons have limited ammo and can't use hives on board. DS must land in hive sphere for it's occupants to resupply. And there will not be enough hives for every passenger on board. They will eventually run out of ammo. Making this goonship useless. It could get OP ...for very short time and easily chased off with AV. It would be a kind of distractor but not a constant threat...

Imagine all of red team boards goonsips. It's "only" 3-4 of them packed to the roof with guns. Nobody on the ground to hack null cannons for red team... Put drop links and hives... How long will they manage to rain fire down before their ammo runs down? And them what? Fly to the edge to deploy some hives and fly back. It's easy to countermeasure this by dedicating 3-4 blue swarmers to chase goonships off. The rest of blue team can focus on hacking/re-hacking objectives. And helping to shoot down goonships in between.

Any red deciding to be on ground, waters down goonship threat - less guns on board - less DPS coming from DS...

I can advise remove infantry weapon reloading when they fly as passengers. Everyone happy - we have ultimate weapon platform for one time use.
Also, reduce passenger count to 4 for standard dropships and to 2 for assault ones (i.e. 2 gunners + 2 passengers and 2 gunners only)

Baal makes a pretty good point pointing out one little thing: its easy to MD and forge gun while your feet are still in solid ground.(in the MD's case you can jump) in a DS however, it is exponentially harder to do these sort of things, accurately.

on a more unrelated note, i think 4 MD users on a DS turns it into a carpet bomber :D

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

Seems like a good opportunity to discuss this idea. How would you feel about dropships filled with swarm launchers or mass drivers for example?

TL DR


What about a DS that has no turrets? This would allow a player on each side to use there own weapon. This should also balance it out. Yes an aerial swarm is not fun, but you do only have two and may not get the lock from both onto the same target. This also would make this DS dedicated to a certain role, no universal pwnage. But this might be a cool platform for scramblers or mass drivers too. Are two side gunners too powerful? Idk, it depends on the strength of the DS really. Some are gods to a mere 5.3 mil sp mortal like myself, I have no hope of taking one down with any of my AV options, so I do my best to stay indoors.


Obviously there is no nano hive in a DS, so two swarms may only prove to be effective against one target, same for mass. There are only so many rounds to fire, before you need to fly to an ammo depot for resupply.

Of course, but the only way to get a player used weapon should be to swap out a turret. That would be the high risk/reward. Like taking a forge gunner for a turret. There needs to be a limit to power, players firing in addition to two turrets I think is too much. You could always have one side with the traditional turret and the other a player weapon.

It's coming still, but not in 1.5 or 1.6.

(And removing a turret removes the seat )

i still feel this nescessary

I'm cool with them shooting out of dropships, heck, let them reload, let them ADS. Just reduce the accuracy of them. (Possibly bar heavy weapons from being used but that can be debated)