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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1770
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:49:00 -
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You really aren't exaggerating. Gallente should be able to overcome caldari on a 1 to 1 module usage, but either Scan Precision needs to be equal to Scan Profile or Precision enhancers need to be equal to Profile dampeners. The cloak's invisibility is actually a lot better than I expected, I think you shimmer too much when crouch walking or walking slowly, but that non-stacking profile reduction is just too much for actual game play.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
748
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:11:00 -
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Agreed, I honestly don't think their needs to be a profile reduction when cloaked. It ruins the stealth play of the scout. You can stay cloaked incredibly long. Agree on the shimmer vs. movement. Its usually full shimmer or no shimmer.
1 bullet/100hp change in TTK is not enough IMO to cause an impact in optimal weapon ranges. Outside those ranges it is obvious. Getting melted by the laser rifle though, again with instant death with a single swipe.
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1497
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:18:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Mag Sec is just a higher pitched Assault Rail Rifle. It's nice, but not my style. It looks so hot on my Cal scout. I haven't seen Monk for a while, could he be using a proto-forum-cloak. Monk don't let the ScP nerf and tourists get you down. The basic cloak is fun. One of us, one of us...
Hey brother, I'm around.
You all have lots of new likes as I catch up on the action from the past few days. Work is just too crazy right now... days off are like the flaylock users: few and far between.
I've only gotten one 1.8 match and decided to run militia for a week or two to get my footing solid. Started off with the Amarr light militia "deformed fetus" suit. High is militia precision, lows are militia armor rep, range and cardiac (DAT STAMINA IS DOPE!). One militia pistol (still works okay) and beloved Toxin SMG. Going for a hard-mode build for now and I am disappointed with the new ScP, although it did get an accuracy buff at higher levels, I believe. And I seem to have 13 shots in the clip instead of 11... did CCP change something?
First game didn't see any cloaked scouts... . man, it's gonna take a while to get used to this new build. Lots of heavies though, and regular scouts.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
749
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Django Quik wrote: I was watching and having never shotgun scouted before just kept wondering why you kept switching to the SMG when surely a shotgun blast would have done the job much quicker and easier, instead of taking a few seconds with the SMG and giving them time to turn and blap you down!
I didn't say anything because I figured it's just me misunderstanding how applicable the shotgun would have actually been in those situations.
Well often times I feel the shotgun just doesn't perform well after that first shot. Targets usually die instantly or they start hopping around like a bunny/backpedal. SMG, especially with its armor bonus and longer range make it an excellent addition to the shotgun. Its somewhat heat of the moment decision. When shooting that heavy in the stairwell I should have switched to SMG sooner, but he was well within optimal range of the shotgun, so I kept going until he got into armor.
90% of the time, once I get past shields I switch to SMG
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2608
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:38:00 -
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So i guess not as many people skilled Commando as CCP had hoped Free Commandos for all?
KRRROOOOOOM
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J0LLY R0G3R
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
660
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:41:00 -
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Patrlck 56 wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:My SG. I want it back. GG J0LLY.
Indeed, was a good one. Having to leave game to go back and ferry more people in is a bit annoying though. Totally messes with my flow. and why u no come into the city! I was there to welcomes you.
++++Gimme Back my SG RoF++++
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13755
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:06:00 -
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I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1458
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
Too early to say.
Yesterday was fun even though I had to relearn how to play. (Why is that it so easy to pick up any other FPS and start playing but Dust feels incredibly awkward when first starting/returning from a break?)
We'll see how things are once the newness of the new scouts, cloaks, and heavies wears off. So far I'm loving my Cal Scout and new caldari weaponry.
The new heavies are ugly though. |
mollerz
2957
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
It's pretty fun. the game itself has changed a lot as a whole. It would be seriously cool if they could get us some new maps to flex our new muscles.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
797
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
The minjas seem to be having trouble.
And while it is hard to say for sure, if things keep up like they have been, scouts will be FOTM.
I can't speak for the others, but that doesn't sit well with me.
I do think it is an improvement, and that maybe buffs to assault suits might be a better remedy than making adjustments to scouts.
I am just still trying to get a grip on things.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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noob cavman
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
932
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8 Who do I have to bribe to get my shotgun rof back? pweeeease
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Tea drinking shotty brit XD
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
890
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
A few things that are causing a couple wrinkles.
1) profile reduction bonus with cloak (too much/makes imbalance between scanning and profile more obvious) 2) shimmer on cloak at walking speed might be a titch too high? (I'm not sure about the consensus on this one?) 3) shotgun RoF is balls. Trading this for the proficiency against damage type was unwanted. Especially with the new heavies. Jolly might have stronger words for this 4) Dear God The Heavies (but they might be balanced, more time needed here) 5) Logis get fitting reduction to cloaks (Complete BS, obviously not working as intended)
Good things. 1) cloak isn't too invisible to the eye, decent balance in terms of that 2) TTK helps a little. Hard to tell the difference in scout suits 3) Rifle nerf was a good step, CR might need a bit more adjusting? no consensus yet 4) TWO EQUIPMENT SLOTS!!!!
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Patrlck 56
375
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:19:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Patrlck 56 wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:My SG. I want it back. GG J0LLY. Indeed, was a good one. Having to leave game to go back and ferry more people in is a bit annoying though. Totally messes with my flow. and why u no come into the city! I was there to welcomes you. Because I wasn't in the channel for comms () and I was told to stay on homepoint and defend it.
We had a good run there, and it was really fun killing Ken when he jumped out of his tank....
Best hatemail
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
283
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:23:00 -
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If you are going to mess (recommend CCP mess) with the CR then they also will have to look at Minmatar suits (Scouts especially) and have to release the Minmatar Nova
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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noob cavman
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
933
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:23:00 -
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Jolly is not a happy shotgunner. can confirm this and i will say half my deaths are thanks to the rof fecking me over.
Also one just one MAJOR GRIPE I have is when I swap weapons to finish with a smg is it won't let me fire and will swap back to the shotgun and won't fire for a second.....++ù%+++ù-úGé¼$&Gÿå}{`~pÇè-í I hate that .... so, so much.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Tea drinking shotty brit XD
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
874
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8
For the most part yes. Some bugs and technical issues. Shotgun hit detection seems to be off... again. Getting hits that don't register. I think the Cloak is nice overall, but only the ADV version. Not a fan of the Standard as cloak doesn't last long enough and Proto the fitting requirements are too high to justify using it. It is a nice compliment to my sneaky tactics and lets me easily position myself behind people for headshots to the back of the dome at close range with my CRG.
One thing I don't like is the Heavies. Oh gawd lord almighty! I feel like a stick of butter in the microwave when I come across these guys and their HMG of DOOM... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11771
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:44:00 -
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I'm fairly certain that was planned before the release of 1.8.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1788
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I take it most of you are enjoying 1.8 Enjying it until the ooo's and aww's of thenew stuff wears off and it reverts back to tank-spam with ADS dominance.
RoF nerf to Shotgun is ludicrous. All the OG shotgunners are being ****** over so hard because we've had it at a faster speed for so long. While the new kids come in, never having it higher because they don't have points in proficiency and are amazed they can kill us.
Shotgun STILL doesn't have enough damage between tiers to make it useful and without Proficiency giving it a bonus to RoF, it is pointless to get Shotgun Operation skill past lvl 3
RoF nerf to the Scrambler Pistol was dreadfully awful. Now all the pistols are garbage... equally. so I suppose that's balanced when everything is terrible?
Mag Sec is so OP.
Bolt Pistol is worse than Breach Scrambler Pisol. Charge-up full auto is very awkward, and Ion Pistol needs to have the overheat removed.
Cloak dampening bonus is the problem with it. Needs to be removed.
Combat Rifle is leagues ahead of the other weapons on actual/realized DPS, compared to theoretical/ mathematically-optimal damage. Honestly 10% average bonus was not enough to affect TTK. The damage mod decrease helped a little, but only slowed down the pub-stompers.
The damage reduction has basically added 1 extra bullet per 100HP your suit has. And FFS, total damage per clip is not a good way to balance damage per bullet.
The rest of the problems are bugs that will hopefully be hot fixed. Other than the incredibly terrible problems listed above, yeah, I'm having fun... but that is because a lot of people that haven't played since the Corp Tournament are online again.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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noob cavman
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
937
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:52:00 -
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I haven't had basic rof on the shotty since chrome! I no like this.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Tea drinking shotty brit XD
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
81
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:11:00 -
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I made my decision!
I had to leave and now some 7 hours later I decided to get scout lv 1 for Cal, Gal, and Amarr I'll get a feel for them and I'll have options. What's 600,000 skillpoints anyway?
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
798
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:16:00 -
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Murt Lesp wrote:I made my decision!
I had to leave and now some 7 hours later I decided to get scout lv 1 for Cal, Gal, and Amarr I'll get a feel for them and I'll have options. What's 600,000 skillpoints anyway?
That's a good option. If nothing else, you will be able to make some versatile fits that you can use as circumstances between and within games change.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
82
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:20:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Murt Lesp wrote:I made my decision!
I had to leave and now some 7 hours later I decided to get scout lv 1 for Cal, Gal, and Amarr I'll get a feel for them and I'll have options. What's 600,000 skillpoints anyway? That's a good option. If nothing else, you will be able to make some versatile fits that you can use as circumstances between and within games change.
I was only able to get cloak lv 1 since there were some other skills to max out. I'll get the full spectrum of 1.8 at any rate
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
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Patrick57
6149
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:22:00 -
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Got my main back if anyone cares... my signature is still locked though. :'( |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1115
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:30:00 -
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Murt Lesp wrote:I made my decision!
I had to leave and now some 7 hours later I decided to get scout lv 1 for Cal, Gal, and Amarr I'll get a feel for them and I'll have options. What's 600,000 skillpoints anyway?
Good, in theory.
A chunk of reality: Most people use ADV suits. and the ADV slots on all scouts, are ALMOST IDENTICAL. So I would imagine there isnt much any difference, from that perspective :-D
Lower levels, though, you get stuck with the whole 3H/1L, vs opposite, so that would make a huge difference I imagine.
Higher levels, its one of
4/2 3/3 2/4 2/4
So, back to "not much difference", unless you're comparing caldari to non-minmatar.
reminder to people who want the numbers:
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/scouts18.jpg
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
881
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:30:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Got my main back if anyone cares... my signature is still locked though. :'( Welcome back, that Patrick56 guy was freaking me out...
Knowledge is power
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
83
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:34:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Murt Lesp wrote:I made my decision!
I had to leave and now some 7 hours later I decided to get scout lv 1 for Cal, Gal, and Amarr I'll get a feel for them and I'll have options. What's 600,000 skillpoints anyway? Good, in theory. A chunk of reality: Most people use ADV suits. and the ADV slots on all scouts, are ALMOST IDENTICAL. So I would imagine there isnt much any difference, from that perspective :-D Lower levels, though, you get stuck with the whole 3H/1L, vs opposite, so that would make a huge difference I imagine. Higher levels, its one of 4/2 3/3 2/4 2/4 So, back to "not much difference", unless you're comparing caldari to non-minmatar. reminder to people who want the numbers: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/scouts18.jpg
You're right, but I'm considering passive bonuses that'll make a greater effect at a higher tier. I want to establish a baseline since each have their own speed, stamina, and ehp. I'm trying them out without Aurum.
Could be worse, really. I could have protoed all the new sidearms
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1791
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:01:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Got my main back if anyone cares... my signature is still locked though. :'(
Good, I like patrick heinz better than that fifty six guy.
What happened to your main?
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Patrick57
6151
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:06:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Got my main back if anyone cares... my signature is still locked though. :'( Good, I like patrick heinz better than that fifty six guy. What happened to your main? Banned for "spam".
You say "inb4lock" in two different threads and you anger the almighty CCP Logibro... |
Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1791
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:26:00 -
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This is why you revere the CCP LogiBro. He is the greatest of Devs. He is first amongst equals with Saberwing and Frame.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Ninja Troll
129
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:31:00 -
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I have been noticing some issues with skills, so checked the bugs thread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303&find=unread
CCP Logibro wrote:Hey guys, as always, we'll be posting known issues for Uprising 1.8 in this thread A large number of skills do not appear to be applying on spawn, including dropsuit skills, weapon skills and core skills. Extent is unconfirmed and still under investigation
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