1) Community support and Forum feedback
2) In-game mail and leaderboards
3) Lots of time typing into spreadsheets

Seriously, that's all there is to it. No secret API or SDK. It's just a bunch of spreadsheets.

- Shotty GoBang

I know of only a few scouts on dust, and even fewer on the forums. But I know that Mollerz is a polite, well spoken Minja, and I vote him to be the Minja Rep. +1 as well (in a good mood )

Since we're all about scouts here, might I ask what builds others use for their wafer thin warriors?
I personally run a Gallente Adv scout with a Scrambler rifle, Flaylock (got them day 1) repair tool, codebreaker andProfile Dampener, with a shield extender, all Advanced or Enhanced level.

On another note thinking bout skillin into minmatar assault don't want to skill assault at all but I need a sturdier suit.

Don't worry will still do the scout thing mainly but yall may see me in a minny assault sometimes :(

Well at least it's minny I take solace in that.

Haven't made up my mind just yet so someone talk me out kf it T-T

Guys, guys, I find that a lonely, humble scout can turn the tide in Skirm easily. Dom. it's a bit harder, for the number of hostiles in one spot. In OMS, it's amazing, but there's no point. It's really hard to notice other scouts doing the same, but I'm positve it happens.
In skirm. I tip my hat to those scouts who go across the map with their one-equipment backpacks and hack that point. It's truly a small blessing.

I turn the tide in our favor and win. I can see this clearly. Sometimes when I go CQs, I am glad for the brave folks who hack objectives across the map it helps a ton!

Also, I am pleased to announce that my kd has finally reached 1.00. It took me 4 months to do so ever since chromo.

I was in a sqd with matticus and spademan. It's always beautiful to see scouts in the warbarge, at one time there was 5-6 scouts circled together. matt, spade and I ran a concert. It was beautiful we were cqc and we were always together wrecking med. frames. We turned the tide in skirmish! we won. It was satisfying.

Roger, Cobra. Thanks for touching base, sir. And good luck. o7
-Shotty

Played a couple games before work - felt the same.

I had an amazing scouting day today and went several matches in a row up against full corp squads achieving around 20/5 on average with my pistol/SMG/flux combo. I had a kill streak of 11 in one match and felt invincible (though I did die a few times)!

Missed the first triple sp cause I was hospitalized so I'm just making my way up to 13 mill I'm a scrub

On Proto Suits:
Can't speak for Minmatar, but the Gallente proto suit was a pretty big letdown. Big investment for negligible return...more PG/CPU and a different slot config is about all you'll get. Under AR-fire, a proto scout dies just as fast as any other. Also, CPM has mentioned possibility of a future respec after all suit variations are introduced. So I'd spend the SP on something else, wait for the possible respec, or skill into proto suits once you've skilled into everything else.

I've spent most of the morning running without the armor repairer, and I've been amazed how little I've actually missed it. I think I was definitely overestimating how much the armor repairer was helping me, and was playing too aggressively as a result. Taking away the illusion of that security blanket, and I've been doing just as well if not better. Definitely worth trading it in for the ability to run both biotics at the same time on an advanced suit. Thanks for the inspiration, Shotty.

Whew. Mine betrayed me horribly today ... to the point where I just went to my dual SMG and SMG - Nova Knife builds for the last match.

You can take me off the rolls. I'm moving on to better things.

And that's not saying much.

happy hunting all. I'm off to greener hunting grounds.

Thanks, Monk!

Fixed my error on the precision enhancer; another reason not to use 'em. I personally see little point to this module. Scanners do the job so much better. I put a couple points into passive precision to spot Light Frames, but I didn't see any need to max it out. Am I missing something here? Did you notice any difference at level 5?

How many people have invested in Electronics and Engineering? I know we are pretty short on cpu and pg so i was just wondering what peoples take is on these HUGE sp drains. I have lvl 3 electronics (cpu one i believe) and lvl 2 engineering (pg). I might have them backwards but you get the picture. I was going to do them to 5 before my proto gal but im not sure which to go for first. What do you guys think?

I'd like to be added to the registry... although I have no idea what my kills are at the moment, but I did pull off a 7 kill streak with knives last night I've been running scout for as long as I've been in DUST, 5+ months. Love the uses and diversity of what you can pull off. I'm a terrible shot under pressure so bringing knives to a gun fight is always fun. Get in drop links in key places, draw enemies out, hack fast and keep the slow people around the battlefield trying to do damage control to the disruption we scouts cause could not play it any other way.

1.4 has completely changed the scout game.
I started running with my normal fits. I threw them away after two matches.

The scout game no longer includes HP modules. It's wasted space now-a-days. Even with em I get shredded by new aiming work and feel.

I put Scanning Modules on instead and to say mildly, it works. I mean of course I still get shredded but instead of wasted space for extenders or plates, I'm generally more aware so I can avoid the fray better (slightly)

I found out that the Tac AR is much easier to use with the new aiming, so I decided to start using that again. I'll try the burst AR but I doubt any improvement has happened.

I tried the mass driver but the fricken aim assist blows right through explosive kick and I get shredded. I will not set it down but it's gonna take a whole new, probably less effective than 1.3, approach.

Pistols haven't changed a whole lot, but I'm going to have to adjust sensitivity again, like any aiming patch.
Haven't got to use my RE's effectively, but I sense a disturbance in their use.

I would say, that if you played a scout like 1.3, they are worse in 1.4. However the stealth game seems to work a little better, but even then I can't confirm it to a degree without more investigation.

BTW Shotty, I have ADV range amplifiers now. Some noticeable improvement. I can stay outside AR range much better now.

Wow!
Jolly's latest montage is a must-see, though be warned:
He makes us all look like noobs ...

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1290255#post1290255

Bounty Hunting on Grigoriy RUSS

For 2 last days i got serios fight on russian "facebook" about scouts & vid "Rise of The Scout". The guy is saying that J0LLY R0G3R have no skill & it's just some lucky moments montage. We need to defend Scouts Honor & teach that scrub what we scouts capable of when we angry & bounty hunting.
He is my ex corp mate, but you can't just say such bad things about hard life of scouts & our vids

So i placing bounty for 20 kills:
250k isk for Shotgun or RE kill
500k isk for Nova Knife or Melee kill
You must be in scout or light suit.
Happy hunting!

Evidence is a must so we can make nice montage of our "lucky no skill" vid with Grigory RUSS

Here is hes twitch channel http://www.twitch.tv/grigoriy_russ he mainly run assault with tac ar, can be in blaster madrugar. Playing on Euro region\server mostly domination, skirmish. Rarely playing solo, most likely you will encounter half or full squad size of average threat lvl scrubs, possibly with 2 tanks.

EDIT: Edited price

I'm with Jolly on the weapons. I use a TAR for close support work because I don't want to skill into snipers but ARs let me fill a similar role. And honestly, I thought this was a scout support group, the weapon elitests tend to hangout in the nerf threads... ^ ^

Decided to skill into scout suits for 1.4, monumental mistake on my part.

Okay, I need to ask some questions from a Gal Scout.

I have run minnie suit since the get-go. I love how I can have 217 shields and 74 armor and still run like the dickens. I love how quickly I can get back in the fight because of using shields. However, I find my use in a squad a bit lacking, as I can never run useful items like Range amplifiers and codebreakers. If I run these items, I sacrifice my speed.

So, here are my questions.

1.) Is the racial bonus to Range amplification really noticeable in this patch? On paper, it looks freaking fantastic (20m radius = 3.14(20^2)= 1256m^2 which would cover 1/5 of an american football field.

2.) How much eHP does a Gal scout normally run at? I am worried about how this would affect my combat capabilities. (also, try and keep in mind my thoughts as to running a team oriented scout suit. I would only have 1 low slot for armor as I would use Red/green pill in my low, along with a range amplifier)

3.) From a hacker: How noticeable is the hacking skill + codebreaker. In short, will I be able to sneak into an objective and quickly hack and GTFO.

I will happily field any questions about a Minnie scout in return.

Ghost out.

I feel like I've transported myself to a parallel dimension. Everything is the same except I'm not the only scout using an AR!

I hope the actual Gallente blaster, when released, will be fun to use still.

I have, and I'm pretty sure Monk has mentioned doing so as well.

I like it ... only bad thing is that the laser beam instantly gives away your position, so if anyone is around to see you melting your poor victim, you've drawn a line right to yourself.

Gotta choose your targets wisely ... oh, and watch that feedback!

By the way, Since this is a Bar/Barbershop, Am I wrong to think that our suave bartender keeps pictures of all the departed scouts on the wall somewhere? At least we have something to drink to. So long brothers. You will be missed.

That will do me! I just needed to know other scouts have had relative long term success with something other than sniping/CQC - sometimes I feel I'm doing scout wrong...even though it feels so right!

Netscape!

I put away my sniper rifle since 4.1 and been doing a lot of testing with range/precision while trying out different weapons. After yesterday mass deaths I think I'm done testing for a little while.

I really like my scanning fits but my cQc game needs a lot of help. originally only wanted the scanning to help catch enemy sneaking up on me while sniping but the new buildings made sniping a bit harder and having the radar working nice keeps pulling me into cQc. also been using the radar to help with using optimal weapon ranges. just not figured out why my ar will hardly scratch the enemy at 80m but the enemy kills me in like 1 sec with an ar at 100m

Can't decide on a weapon now.
shotgun is really fun but i don't like to get that close and it cost me being able to have a long or medium range weapon.
flaylock was not bad in the new buildings with all the nice tight hallways and walls everywhere but again not enough to replace smg even though the smg seems to jam after first 3 shots fire on every full clip when using anything other than the proto smg.
laser was good but draws a line to where i am so not good for a stealth scout.
tac ar maybe if they fix the range so it beats the auto so I can play the range game
scrambler rifle is same with ar when it comes to me playing range vs range

in a group the laser, tac ar, and scrambler are pretty fun when staying just behind the front line mercs but the sniper is still better

might test more today before returning to my primary sniper/smg until they balance weapon ranges a little better or introduce a weapon with range better than ar and less than sniper like the tac ar should be. getting killed from 100m+ from fully auto ar fire when using a tac ar scope is just wrong. or is it because im only lvl 3 ar sharpshooter?

I am exclusively a scout player. If you ever see me in the pubs loaded out as anything else, it's my girlfriend playing on my account. I have been playing for a bit over a month now and have enjoyed myself. I have to tip my metaphorical hat to Shotty GoBang (whose name always reminds me of Erin Go Bragh) for being such an amazing advocate and organizer for the scout populous.

The open sharing of advice and information in the scout community is one of the reasons I stuck with Dust, even after my first week of brutal and frequent losses. Keep the united front together, scout brothers and sisters. I, for one, truly appreciate it.

Scenario:
Plunk red-dot with a shotgun.
Red-dot proceeds to jump and strafe about.
Shotgun's now useless.

Question:
Is it acceptable -- in this case -- to use the despised Flaylock?

I had a terrible day yesterday, really disheartened. Sneaking up on ppl and plunking them with my CRG-3, then proceed to miss every next shot until they mow me down.

Not sure if I was just having a bad day, but damn - not enjoyable.

Interesting to see Shotty mention once they start jumping about, shotgun is useless. Hadn't realised that, that's effectively what seemed to be happening to me, although at this point shouldn't it still be possible to finish the job with the shotgun? If that takes special skill, then I'll feel a little happier about my deaths yesterday at least.

What I'm trying to figure out is how to stay close to my prey so that I negate their ability to keep a bead on me and I can keep out of their line of fire enough to nail them. Is this a tactic that is possible? Perhaps I'm trying to do something that is nigh on impossible.

All in all, the flipping auto-aim is p1ssing me off right now. I don't like dying so fast, and so far I refuse to use an AR, although tempted just to see what all the fuss is about. Maybe I'd learn something about how to stay alive longer.

Meh! :(

Yup, that'd be pretty much perfect for me, not for plates though, a second hacking module maybe.

100 pages of scout powaaaa

You should definitely get shotty instead of me. He's more well known between scouts and is pretty much our prime minister of Scout Nation IMO lol

That's because it can't be purchased; it is a salvage only pistol, similar to how the Specialist Sniper Rifle is salvage-only.

IA5 Tactical Pistol is the official

The Sad History of Bojo: Scout Extraordinaire

I just remembered I was a scout sniper at heart
but then the game changed and I changed direction
now my heart longs to be scout sniper but that is now so far away
I'm still a pilot but the game has changed the Dropship for the worse

I used to run nothing but militia gear back in Codex, I could barely figure out what suited me and I mostly ran the Arbiter fitting. Because Arbiters were already specced one level into snipers I furthered it to NT 511s, and back then Charge Sniper only required level 2 so I used that and the Tactical pretty often. But then when Chromosome hit, I fell in love with the Mass Driver. I then, after seeking help in what used to be just the Training Grounds, I specced into the Type II Assault Suit. I was shield heavy and faster than the Type I. I loved it. Then, when the final days of Pre-Tranquility were upon us, everyone said **** it, and tossed SP into what they pleased. I got Shotguns to 2, the scout suit, and the Nova Knives. I had so much fun with the breach shotgun.

*Insert stuff about Open Beta*

Now here I am, kind of wishing I was an Arbiter.

Try the ish an the boundless breach on the same fit = everything dead!

Dude I'm not whining, I can beat the 28 that's not a problem, plus I almost have a proto gallente as well as minmatar is already proto an One basic pd beats the 28 on that suit an morathi is right, because of the new wp system everyone will use the 28 as a way to have a better chance at getting points, so at first I thought it was stupid ccp made it impossible for one scout not to beat 15 but the new wp system will probably work in our favor, I was just trying to use it as a excuse to sneak another slot on the suit if ccp was listening

With pistols and knives I have a ridiculously stunted effective range.

I have not had so much fun since I started playing. Pistol headshots and shankings are delightful.

Does anyone else run a combo along these lines?

Space Pirates

OH! I have a very good subject to bring up that I would like to discuss with the scout community first before making an official proposal.

As of now, Profile Dampeners lower your radar detection-profile, that is it. Profile is in terms your detectability by radar in this game. However what if we were to broaden what profile is?

What if we included the following into profile; Sound & Sight

What if Profile Dampeners could reduce noise produced by running/walking and melee, and reduce distance until perceived as an enemy?

For instance a sniper aims down his scope over two frames, heavy and light. The heavy is picked up and it's data is given to the user. Enemy, bla bla bla. But the scope moves over the scout and gives nothing, at the same distance. Basically profile would nerf enemy LOS detection of you.

On top of that, when you need to be sneaky, you boots get covered in shag carpet for silent footsteps.

I understand that the Sound has been proposed before but what really yanks my Tibetan Yak is that LOS defeats profile all the time. I showed up during the testing all the time when I was in LOS. No matter the distance until it was irrelevant. That needs to change IMO. It would also give a most noticeable use towards a lot of medium frames.

Boarding this train of thought, for all of my Gal-Scout Bluebros, I made a thread for Gallente FW and a chat channel as well:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112336&find=unread

I'd love to cap some Caldari alongside you...

Shotty you may as well stop stalking my statistics because I'm moving this game to the attic to collect Dust (pun intended bitches). Not leaving the scout, just the game.



Yes

Running this right now lol
Dragonfly
Proto knives
Std Breach scr pstl
Complex dmp
basic Ablative armour (i like a little regen)
Basic Pr Enhancer
Basic RE

fun times

lol newb indeed I revived matt like 3xs with the Kin12s. Ozarow killed that heavy. Oz wanted me to mention of his awesome tank kill. He jumped on the prey from above, laid explosives on top, jumped off and I heard a loud explosion after. He bagged 2.
Pseudosnipre and Jackal were also with us.

Enemies were hacking B, I run up there jumping, getting shot at, laying mines and before I died to AR, I detonate myself and 4 douches with me! hahaha.

When will the tables turn in our favor? By allowing scouts to do their part in the game.

Finally saw a squad of scouts last night! And it went as predicted - I couldn't count the +50's quick enough.

damn dude, sorry to see you go, and now that courtesy is done, can this VERY poor scout have your isk?, i dont have enought to feed my fake virtual family in new eden, and my fake daughter has a fake linfoma and i need the isk for her fake treatment, have mercy on a fake family men

i actually had in mind the typical guy that hid in the closet so the dad wouldnt find him, only that i had a scanner and could see him hidding there

Your daughters are safe. Surt Gods End has moved on to other things.

Basically, he was trying to follow a Deadpool style motif.

*Deathstroke did it better!*

Shut up!

Last chance for there to be an all-scout team!
For the "Dust Cup" !

signups must be completed in the next 5(?) hours, and I need to get to sleep in the next hour or so.
Gotta get 3 more participants!!

mr. musturd is trying to sign up with us as we speak, but having difficulties wrestling with his PS3 internet browser :->

Please go to

http://goo.gl/smpmek

ASAP, to sign up for the team.

Once I have enough team members, I can officially submit the team to the tournament. I cant sign the team up until we have at least 6 members though!

I may go with the 3 range amps and whatever on the last one. Perhaps the reps to survive longer in case I get a boo boo. Matt, i like your corp's name.

And to shotty, I'm actually going to go amarr scout....ill find a way to make it decent.. I hope. If they give a respec though I'm going medium frame shotgun... :(

I'd go all-out mimitar and... ummmm... shoot lead?.. errrr I mean defeat the amarr... *says unsure* die amarr, errr FOR FREEDOM!

Started to give it a watch, but that **** is 20somthing minutes long lol. Just reading what others have said about it is peachy enough for me XD. Good luck to him though shrug. So whats his dust name? Never know might run into him sometime XD

Bit harsh. But to each his own.

Hey Monk!
Any chance we can twist your arm into editing the post in question?

Void/Ghost,
Looks like Monk was just venting. If he's cool with editing his post, would you guys mind clearing his quote?

Thanks!

- Shotty

I can not save the day. I am a squishy.

I found myself in matches in the last few days in pubs or FW,
trying to keep it all together when all falls apart.
But I have a dinner table cloth for shields.
But alas, I can not resist to attempt to try, and I die all the time trying.
Being new and have only 2mil= sp does not help. But, I try.
Just dump 700k sp in SMG instead of shields just so I can fight, make a stand against my foe.
Sometimes it works, mostly it does not. I am no match to an AR, or many others for that matter.
Still, I fight in defiance recklessly in my squishy suite.
Not an easy path for a upcoming scout. Dam rough actually.

my lil rant is fin

whaddya mean? you need level 3 in explosives for that.

I'm going Sniper for now.

As long as I can stay out of their range, I should do fine.

Essentially, I'm just seeing if your thoughts are on the active module system aka mid slots, and then I'll edit what I have to work with peoples thoughts on it..

It is a bit more complicated and we have to be carefull not making the scouts overpowered.

Comparing the pro gallente logi with a pro scout give the scout abilities matching the following bonuses in comparable modules:
597 CPU and 32 power

The logi gets below compared to the prot scout:
equip bonus depending on equipment added. My own pro logi saves 52 cpu and 10 power
125 cpu 25 power

In total above bonuses added to the prot suits cpu and power:
Scout 92 kW and 847gF
Logi 103 kW and 534gF

The scout have +300 CPU compared to the proto logi. The scout has higher move speed, sidearm and smaller hitbox. The logi gets lots of module slots and equipment slots for greate versatility but will never be able to become as good at scouting as the scout.

The scout bonuses is not that far off from the gal logi all considered. The gal logi would have to equip the following to match most of the scout charectistics:
4 complex shiled rechargers
1 complex shield regulator
1 complex kinetic catalyser
1 basic kinetic catalyzer
1 basic cardiac regulator
1 basic precission enhancer
1 complex profile dampener
1 basic profile dampener
3 complex range amplifiers

That is allot of modules requiring more CPU than the logi have available. How much higher bonus does the scout need compared to the logi?

Should the scout be able to match the assault in number of kills? We need more urban maps as not all maps are suited for the scout, the same goes for any of the specialty roles, compared the general assault AR infantry.

The scout can quickly become a target of qq if they can run around one hit killing everyone with shotguns and nova knives. The assault should really be the bast at combat and only loose when surprised by a scout using his stealthy advantage. I remember the times when scouts where impossible to hit and on hit killed my prot heavy with shotguns at 15m distance.

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I'm not the only one unfortunately!

That option has been discussed and is my favorite simple solution, because you can then have scouts with one light weapon slot and two sidearm slots, and a two light weapon slot light frame/scout that would be interesting, it would also help commandos who should also have better stealth for what they give up.

Barring that I think the immobility penalty for non scout suits would work assuming CCP is going with the equipment option, though planning this would be a lot easier if we just knew what CCP was doing so we can work with it.

It might not be a bad idea to have start a new thread specifically about cloaks as equipment vs light weapon slot, as it would allow us to escape our scout bro echo chambers we have here, I might even do that now and see how much I get thrashed or ignored on the boards.

Also thanks for commenting

You sir, are even more obstinate than I. I applaud you for sticking to the Minmatar suits.
I'm doing the same with Gallente even though I want that Amarr Assault, but the Gallente suits are actually on a competitive level.

if your skilled into plates and reps you should go into gallente scout

I am doing the same thing, except started from scratch. You are probably set up through EQ to be a uplink deployment machine, so that's a plus. I wonder how much fun minja medic would be, or high speed rep running? I don't know could be interesting.
I know I am looking at hack speed and maneuverability, and have been using hacked objectives and CRUs to not be completely blind.

TL/DR: If you're having a hard time finishing flanked opponents with a Shotgun, I strongly recommend skilling into the AR and running it just like you would your shotgun.

---

Conclusion:
If you haven't tried it yet, I'd recommend putting a few points in AR Operation and running a GEK. Treat it just like you would your Shotgun. Those pesky counters like back-pedaling, super-strafing, bunny-hopping that foil your shotgun attack ... none of those work against the AR. The Scout Mobility advantage plays a much more significant role when swapping blows with an AR Medium. Just remember to bounce about and hip-fire. Aim-Assist takes care of the rest.

- Shotty

So, 12 days and I should have my ps4. My ps3 will be moved to my bigscreen tv in my living room, ps4 will at the desk I play at. Sooooooo... I'm probably going to give away the isk I have on my scout account...to other scouts.

I'll keep like 20mill on the account just incase I ever jump back on it. So if your a scout on the registry and notice you suddenly have a lil extra isk. Highfive to u XD. Going to break it down into 10 million blocks and give it out that way so can spread it around a lil.
Killzone SF here I come. been hella fun everyone.

1. dedicated scanners are not attacking. That puts them behind on their force numbers
2. when you are scanning... you have a very noticable delay switching to a weapon, even when you really, really need to.
So, if they fit a logi, like a logi tank, they arent going to be able to get away. They'll be slow, and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back!

And if they fit the logi like a scout... they arent going to be able to survive long. Particularly since if they were any good as a scout.. they'd be playing scout, wouldnt they? !!

Win-Win for us

99. 92% scout.
I am just using up some old inventory, cleaning up the clutter.

This morning, using the gifted Black Eagle suits,
I do have a new appreciation for the Shotty.
I applaud the ones who use it 24/7.

I remember somebody at one point asked about recording something, I got a recorder and produced this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8&feature=youtu.be

Plenty of flaws in my gameplay in the video (especially my first death as I was an idiot there), but its me soloing and having fun. Also showcasing my play style, not all of it is exciting though, the first half is better than the last half.

Found it! I was looking for a while, and I just wanted to let all the new kids (non-beta players) know what the Black Eagle G/1-Series looked like before.

It looked so sexy.

well of course, that's what the TT-3 is for


Ya know how you can mad trigger-spam a scrambler rifle?

thats kinda how the TT-3 is.
Forget the stupid ROF numbers in the market. Try it out, and you'll be hooked.

I beg to differ.

On the one hand, if I'm caught in the open and stupidly standing still, yea I'm still dead.
However, 2xcomplex shield extenders, have significantly reduced my number of deaths, in situations when I can run for cover.

Another 100 more, would reduce it further, I'd wager.

Well its funny you mention that because:

Minnmatar Logi M/1:
GÖª3x Complex shield Ext
GÖªComplex Kinetic Cat
GÖªComplex Profile Dampener
GÖªBasic Armor plate
GÖªSix Kin SMG
GÖªCompact Nanohives
GÖªRemote Explosives
GÖªA-19 Active Scanner

330 shield
281 Armor
Total EHP: 611
Speed:8.11
Scan Profile 33
Armor repair rate 5
Hacking bonus at level 5 is 25%

Better than a Scout in EVERY SINGLE WAY,except Stamina and Shield Regen.
Cost: 56k

**Important**

Factional Warfare Trading

Fortunately Scouts have a half way decent community, so I can image we can probably do trading a lot easier and a lot fairer than the rest of the community

LP Store Items + Specialist Lower fitting Cost Items

Essentially we can get our scout fix on the basis of trading accordingly, I am hoping there is an amarr scout for pistols and a min scout for the sidearms damage (which I don't have skill into yet)

Is the game worth it yet

Y'know, I've actually spent the last couple of days running mostly SP and Flaylock, with either uplinks or remotes. I like it. The FP has some drawbacks, but it also gives me a couple of plusses that really compliment my beloved SP...

Greetings gentlemen/ladies

Is this where the sharply dressed rougues of cunning and wit hang out?

If so I have come to join your ranks. Just switched over to the scout suit from my Gal Logi. Loving it so far, no need to look up my kdr or total kills Shotty, the amount of scrolling required to find me at the bottom of the leader boards would probably break your DS3. I'm working on improving my aim by actually aiming (drastic change of pace after 5 months of panic firing my AR) and my ability to stay below the radar so I can properly introduce people to the business end of one of my pistols. Hopefully one day you will be able to add my name to the registry. Until then I will be on sporadically flying by the seat of my pants, and looking good doing it. o7

Got the damn thing to sign in! **** yeah Im on the proper account now! This is the character I've been meaning to get added to the scout board. Now the issue with those likes...32 of them are on the wrong account, nuuuu!

Question to the Ninjas:
Do the Advanced and/or Prototype Knives hit hard enough to be used by Gallente?

Pistol to the back of the head mate. Or a plasma cannon shot from range, cause they generally don't hear/see the round incoming to them.

You can nerf my cal logi all you want, I still have my SCOUT!...lolehhh

On another note, had to share with the lil scouts.
One of the joys of squading up in the united channel.
Played a game and got a... gg message i guess you could say after it from some proto cal logi.
31-0 sg scout
XD SGVid XD

This is a public service announcement: My corp wants scouts to join us. Those that are interested apply and say that Niuvo sent you. We only have 3 scouts including myself. I need scouts in the corp to run with. Other scouts are Demon Buddha and douch.
Thank you.

A followup on this...

I was playing in a domination match. I think I peeved someone.
They came back, in an open area, with a... heavy suit?
They were a little close... 30m...
So I sprinted out of range, taking a few little dinks from his HMG, until I got to about 65m+.

Turned around.... and melted his face off with my laser, in about 2 seconds, while he was in the open with nowhere to go.

Okay this was not sensible behaviour for an enemy. But I think it amply demonstrates a good case use for this suit :)

i just wish I could carry some uplinks along with this.


Edit: well.. tecnically, I can... but for this long range weapon, its kinda important to have a scanner, so you can see far enough ahead.
SO.. great if someone ELSE is carrying the scanner..
Also, I have to use an Enhanced CPU upgrade, rather than 2xranger extenders. sigh.
54 cpu for the basic laser. owch.

In other news - this latest event (or possibly just the proto stomp in general these days) has really taken its toll on me. If you missed my quafe questioning thread, I was asking why some many people were running so much proto to get essentially useless quafe suits that would be next to worthless when the market comes. People were saying that the necessary KDR to maintain a profit of 10-1 is easily achieved! WTF!? All these OP douches with their duvolles and imperials are really p*ssing me off lately. I know I could just spec into them myself but honestly I've never liked using mid range rifles in FPSs and they don't suit my style and I am sure that one day the mid range weapons will get nerfed but I've been thinking this for around 6 months now and there's just no sign of it and that makes me sad.

King is the only Amarr listed for FW rewards.
Inside man when the LP store launchesGǪ
If he corners the scout market on pistols

Turalyon, it has Eve pilots and mercs. Flako and I are in there. I don't think it will be hard to find gal fighters in our scout channel.

So the Loyalty Store....
There are no Specialist Pistols and only Aurum variants available
which does not help because you know, level 5 prof 3 unlocks everything

So why the big crunch on pistol trade? (Unless of course the Khanid variant is in store....oooh)
Also WTF, trade? Like that would happen anytime soon....Soon TM

Scouts get buffed yet? Anything for them in 1.7? Put 100 or so hours into Battlefield 4 and i'm starting to get bored and sick of the bugs over there. I can't recall Dust ever crashing my PS3 a single time, but DICE managed to do it with BF4 somehow multiple multiple times.

Yeah Shotty - just leave like a Hall of Fame of top scouts on the first page.

I know you went all out for us and its a bit disheartening. I am sure many will come and go as we get new games / systems but hopefully sometime next year things will be better.

Take the long view approach (for yourself not CCP's eternal calendar) and enjoy the holiday season and other things until you feel to come back fully.

You made this experience really enjoyable for much of us here.

Story Time ...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1577997#post1577997

I'm gonna miss checkin' the forums for Trolls.
Kinda wish I could take it all back ...

So, scouts ... what do you guys think of the new rifles? I've caught a bit of commentary in the chat channel, and I've used the standard versions of each (and the AUR assault versions of both as well) ... just wondering what everyone feels (so far) regarding their usefulness to the hard-mode community, and I'm also curious to see what you guys think about going against the new guns...

More likes and views than this game's playerbase, and not a single DEV post?

Seems Legit.

Another odd thing happened tonight.
Call this, "Tales of the scout, volume 27", if you like :D

....

So there I was, lone gunman sneakily peering out over the edge of the roof taking out reds one by one.
They actually tried scanning me.. pathetically.. still didnt know I was there. I'm not sure anyone even looked up.
At least 3 spawned back in. I took them out.. and STILL they didnt look up! ("always trust the scanner"? lulz)
And so, at last... we got the objective.

True story!

.....
Soo, trying out all the different lows and highs on advanced suits have been a lot of fun (and a lot of fail sometimes), I've come to really like the C. Range Amplifiers and C. Codebreakers sadly the Advanced Suit only has 2 lows and not 3 for some reason and I am reluctant to give up any of the lows on my proto suit.

Does anyone run a suit with Codebreakers successfully or is hacking something better left to medium suits?
And does anyone fit Range Amplifiers on their protosuits?

Oh and guys I just want to share this:
Creodron Shotgun - CPU:93, PG:14
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun - CPU:78, PG:11
Federation Creodron Specialist Shotgun - CPU:51, PG:7

You'll be finding me in Gallente FW for a while!

\o/

All my +1's for the Noblest of Bastards, Matticus Monk :-)

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Question of the Day (14th of December):
If most Scouts ran cloak, would most Logis run 15 dB scanners? Explain.

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Question of the Day (13th of December):
If cloak were your only Equipment, would your Scoutly squad functions be affected? Explain.

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Krom: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1604916#post1604916
Ruthless: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1605181#post1605181
Haerr: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1609197#post1609197

I got the last kill of the match, as a tank kill

Matticus I too have taken a recent liking to the IA5

I put it on my Super Spy fitting and I'd be damned but it got put in the exact scenario I designed it for. It's basically a G-I fitted with a range amp, an active scanner, MLT SMG and the IA5 with reps and a basic or enhanced shield extender.

I was playing ambush with Sir Snugglz and I was using the IA5 at very long range in an attempt to strip someone's shields. I was on one of those sockets with the four cylinders and you can go beneath it where there is acid/poison water. Well I ended up going down there because I took some hits and it was a very low HP suit.

From there I Active Scanned the place and to my dismay, a majority of the reds were coming my way and obliterating the blues above me. And then there were no blues left, just me below the reds. I had a passive range of either 42 meters or 45, I forget which tier range amp I used...

But then one of the reds went down the ramp and I watched its chevron through a cylinder behind which I hid. I had the option to completely avoid his detection, but I wasn't thinking run, I was thinking Kill. The red comes around the corner and I just unload the IA5 on him. He manages to land a few rail shots on me but I think finished him off with like 3-4 SMG shots. By now the reds above were leaving and I couldn't believe how I had managed to pull off camping right under the enemies nose and wiping it too.

I have realized that hitting level 5 scout + the scout buff I missed was a tremendous help to me. Having forty meter passive scan allows me to be an omniscient urban god; CQC maps will never be the same.

Oh damn that was you? Haha, sorry about that, I was logging in and out a lot.

Yep, I think that a cloak scout would be a nice sight and all but really more of a toy than a necessity. If I don't need it I don't use it.

I have Proto Swarms and Nades.

Be on the look out for "Random Suicides" ...

Randomly died by Suicide while setting a Rally Point via overhead map.
Randomly died by Suicide while in Redline with count-down time remaining.
Randomly died by Suicide after returning from Redline (count-down no longer displayed).

... haven't had this problem before; perhaps bad luck or something else was changed.

6 REs. 9k damage. Impacted at full speed from behind.

*shrugs*

Who likewise can't detect you.

A tanked scout is just a medium-lite combat-wise. Don't rely on just the tacnet and keep your eyes peeled then you will have a level playing field against fellow scouts while using a passive scanner fit.

YOU.


I must kill you now




Although... I suppose I have to admit, I've done that sort of thing myself to a fair number of "light" suits

Psssht.... the heck with that.. I'll just grenade you!

tic...

tic...

....


(knifes Monk in the back while he's looking around for the grenade ticking noise....)

I stalked you last night in a battle, but you are a slippery scout
Med suit was going for a CRU so i killed himGǪ but the CRU turned and who do i see skulking down the alley away from the CRU
I stalked you for a bit and went to flank you but you took a 90-¦ on me, and went up to the ridge of a crater. I followed and dropped your shields, you dropped behind a ridge and by the time i caught up you had slipped away. I backtracked incase you were counter-falnking me. But you were gone.
I was on my Minja alt.

I came to a realization today. I thought about what suits I would spec into after I got my Cal scout... and realized I only wanted the other scouts. The other suits hold no interest to me. (Still want speeders and MAVs though)

*sigh*

... CCP better get to revamping the scout suit soon. My patience is wearing thin.

I went full knifer-

Ishnoks
2x complex extenders
1x complex red/green jar
flux


I went 14/4/13.

I'd have to say this is doable

It's fun, but not running a secondary is just bad tactics.

Just read the first page, man was that funny and sad.
Good poem matt.

I fear that as ccp attempts to balance the scout, they will become FOTM and have nyan crap spamming that ****.

I understand where you are coming from, but I still stand by what I said.

There will be situations where you will want another weapon, and since you have an extra slot, there is no reason why you can't run a basic sidearm, like a basic ScP.

It's great for finding out the limitations of a lot of weapons though. You quickly learn what you can or cannot do with that weapon.

happy new year all you scoundrels.

20014 is going to be our year! I can almost taste it....


Stay safe and I look forward to stabbing all your hung over asses tomorrow


o7

Of course that example isn't particularly relevant.
It was simply an example of something I might try to write.

And yes, it was overly long. But it made the point.
... and now some people even think armour is OP.

Yes.

Pffft I got lots of luck tis all XD
Ether
*cpu/pg boost
*buff stamina, sprint speed
*2nd equipment slot with a lil cpu/pg boost - prolly end up being another racial scout with this though :(
*better dampening to beat all the scanners without putting a bunch of mods on


yep that's my list they can pick from that, I'm not saying everyone of them at the same time lol but ya they can pick and choose. XD

Maybe this is my problem, placing them on back. All I do is annoy them, just before they swat me like a mosquito. A squishy scouty mosquito...

- snip -

1) Any implementation of cloaks will have some sort of simplification of tactics, how much is acceptable? (would would cloaks allow you to do and what limitations would cloaks have)

2) Thoughts on scouts becoming most effective as a forward slayer charging cloak unit? (the potential lowest common denominator to result from the cloak)

3) Should there be an offensive trade off from running cloaks? Why / Why not?

Agreed. Odd choice.

I run one enhanced plate and one basic reactive in my lows 99% of the time

Matti,
Why do you run from my affection in the war barge

Input:>>Computing

Hot dang those guys can get below an Advanced scanner with one complex (and skill). Luckily for me if I max out precision (that's going to be a *****) I can get below them with a Comp Enhancer. Lucky me and by a hair. If they stack Comp dampeners and if I stack comp precision enhancers, they will beat me out. *sigh* this is precisely why I avoided skilling into precision but it's doubtful if medium frames even use dual complex dampeners (unless hella intense match with Proto scanners pew pew)

Yeah, that was my Minja alt (which is rapidly becoming my main )
The two times I have seen you is on my altGǪ and you never die

WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY!?!?!




*Grabs the Creodon Shotgun from behind the counter and fires two warning shots*

wassup appia, you here to tell the scout community to stop sukking, well you should stop sukking too cuz your bad, period

Also, other scouts. Did I miss anything? Feel free to quote and edit the post if you have to.

...
Though you have not Embraced the Death the way I have
Probably a good thing

...

Monk from the side, Red turns to face him
silly red, you turned your back on a scout
Velocoraptor leap and we get him

I got his freaking voicmail is what happened!

I called him right afterwards too, so he obviously didn't want to talk to me.

Freaking wuss.

I don't really think this is data collection, if it is then CCP scares me, knives can be fun by are in no way the only thing a scouts do, in fact the knife is more of a fun play style more than a serious one. In really competitive matches knifes are not what are used by an large against a really competent opposition.

I also know this because some of the better knifers out there have been stopped dead in their tracks by my little sister who plays a hmg heavy solo guarding an objective, completely destroying an all out scout squad of half knifers and combat rifles. She forced the knifers to go to the combat rifle and still mopped them up. (though I was watching her play and telling her everything they were most likely going to do in advance like "stop, he's luring you out for a remote/ambush", "wedge yourself here", "this guy is will probably trying again by flank this direction", "check six", etc)

It made me realize how scout smarts with other suits is op

FYI - i did a bunch of calculations on reds and greens a month or so back and came to the conclusion that unless you're planning on running over 800m in one go, it's almost always quicker to use only reds rather than mixing in greens.

I want in on this. I haven't done a knife squad in awhile. Last one I was in was me, Bolt, Jacobi, Musturd, and I wanna say Radar.

That was freaking awesome. We wouldn't just hit a flank, we would DECIMATE A FLANK. NO SURVIVORS.

I was a random yet effective blueberry in a squad and got a million ISK bounty for RE blowing up their nemesis being the last kill of the match then our victory, as well as knifing him with ZNs the next match. They paid me for a special delivery of pwnage only a scout could deliver.

My first check! I am hanging it on the wall of the barbershop next to Matticus' Scout Toast.

This just bought me some heavy duty suits for the upcoming shred fest

We say no to knives n' shotgun combo because of range limitations.

Just choose a weapon that is still viable at CQC, but also has range.

I run ACR and Knives. Very good mix. Excellent CQC abilities, and the ACR still tears people up at range. Versatility is king.

Assault SMG is also usable. Better for maps where range isn't really an issue. Pistols can also be used, as they have decent range as well.

Personal preference really.

Funny enough, got paid another rmillion in a later match. Then I got offered employment. Maybe we can arrange some cool free agent guidelines?

I know musturd has gotten paid handsomely. He even got combat pay from Hilmar

Yea. That Hilmar.

In the first day the Commando Registry has made it to 6 pages and counting, opposed the the Scout Registry's 5 pages on day one.

(friendly competition, but we're on the same team here)