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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Cass Caul wrote:

Lightning xVx wrote:

Matticus Monk wrote:

+1 on the scout tournament (although I would get a pretty intense beat down I'm sure)

+1 for additional low slot on Minja and high slot on Gallente

Sad to hear speed taking is hard for higher level scouts to make work. I've also given up speed tanking and just use my fast fits for the initial rush. After that it's all scanning/stealth or armor reps. Sad

What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_-

Minmatar is kind of the worst race to be. Throughout the Universe the race's theme is low HP, high base speed, low CPU/PG
Gallente is always the best when it comes to a Speed vs HP balance.

Take those high slots and use damage mods and run an AR. Flank them from a distance.
Let the Gallente charge in and blast them away.

Your nova knife bonus is a gimmick and not suited for he Suit's attributes at all.

If we dont get an additional low slot I think we should definitely get a slightly higher movement speed and a higher sprint speed.

Agree on using damage mods. Hopefully Combat Rifle (whenever it comes) will work out to scare AR users.

I assume CCP wanted us (Min Scouts) to use Precision mod or Melee mod in the 3rd High slot but just dont see them being worth it.

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Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2003	Posted - 2013.09.24 06:22:00 - [2071] - Quote Niuvo wrote: What do you guys mean by Condors? Do I need to know? Oh I don't know....but ask ShottyGoBang
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1099	Posted - 2013.09.24 06:31:00 - [2072] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: +1 on the scout tournament (although I would get a pretty intense beat down I'm sure) +1 for additional low slot on Minja and high slot on Gallente Sad to hear speed taking is hard for higher level scouts to make work. I've also given up speed tanking and just use my fast fits for the initial rush. After that it's all scanning/stealth or armor reps. What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_- Always intended to be like that since day 1 ho yeah i have a suit that go 10.7 too, but 286 EHP, very usefull in skirmish with proto uplink , i feel everything is allright like that, gallente choose to be faster or more tanker but the way you choose the minni beat your weakness, gallente is more a specialist Gallente FTW! This sentence. It bothers me.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1263	Posted - 2013.09.24 07:26:00 - [2073] - Quote ^ French primary language ... English improving ;-)
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1263	Posted - 2013.09.24 07:29:00 - [2074] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Scan Assisted kills by your squad will net you 15 glorious WP Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111846
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 398	Posted - 2013.09.24 10:01:00 - [2075] - Quote How scout layouts should be MK.0 4 highs / 2 lows CK.0 5 highs / 1 low GK.0 1 high / 5 lows AK.0 2 highs / 3 lows / 2nd equipment slot or 1 high / 4 lows / 2nd equipment slot
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 715	Posted - 2013.09.24 11:28:00 - [2076] - Quote I ve Used to have a hard time shotgunning until today! I averaged between 15-24 kill s almost every match by doing the reverse of what I've always done. I always used to try an speed tank it, I put 2 complex plates on it and my shields an it's crazy, my proto minja can tank about 660 total HP an my advanced gallente can tank almost the same but it has over 400 armor! I find that the slower movement is easier to target yet different than changing the sensitivity. I can track easier an run out someone's clip with enough armor left to take one another right away before needing reps from my compact nano hive , it left me confident enough to take on 2:3 mercs an win, rep and repeat. Armor totally beats shields any day , which is why I'm totally going gallente after I finish all my armor to five since I only went up all the way with the minja shields. I totally wish I stuck with gallente long ago in the beginning of uprising, but everything I need is almost at five so I can't wait to get this suit.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 715	Posted - 2013.09.24 11:57:00 - [2077] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, was messing around with the Dust514 Fitting tool. Here we go. Proto Build #1. Knive/SMG Shields: 234 Armor: 87 Sprint: 9.35 Stamina: 441 1x Complex Shield 1x Enhanced Shield 1x Complex Sidearm Damage Mod Ishukone Nova Knives Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade 1x Complex Cardiac 1x Complex Kincat Proto Build #2 Shotgun/Flaygun Shields: 270 Armor: 87 Sprint: 10.03 Stamina: 210 2x Complex Shield 1x Complex Mybofibril (175 melee damage!) Duvolle Specialist Shotgun GN-20 Specialist Flaylock 1x Complex Kincat 1x Enhanced Kincat. Kinda on the fence between these two. Not sure which one to build into. Would love to hear some feedback on these suits. I ve made so many mk.0 fits but I'm really liking runnin it like a gallente for shotgunning Mk.0 2x complex shields Basic shield Creodron sg Compact hive 2x complex armor Thing hits like a beast 667 HP but my armor tanked gal advanced fit has the same HP but lasts longer cuz it has more armor 400 instead of 300+ on a proto min. My knifer fit Mk.0 Ish knives an smg both prof 4 Complex shield x2 Complex side arm Duv scanner Enhanced kin Enhanced CPU Flux
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 128	Posted - 2013.09.24 14:31:00 - [2078] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: +1 on the scout tournament (although I would get a pretty intense beat down I'm sure) +1 for additional low slot on Minja and high slot on Gallente Sad to hear speed taking is hard for higher level scouts to make work. I've also given up speed tanking and just use my fast fits for the initial rush. After that it's all scanning/stealth or armor reps. What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_- Minmatar is kind of the worst race to be. Throughout the Universe the race's theme is low HP, high base speed, low CPU/PG Gallente is always the best when it comes to a Speed vs HP balance. Take those high slots and use damage mods and run an AR. Flank them from a distance. Let the Gallente charge in and blast them away. Your nova knife bonus is a gimmick and not suited for he Suit's attributes at all.
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 321	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:09:00 - [2079] - Quote I'm not reading 104 pages to find out whats going on here... Just wanted to say Shotty and Chilled destroyed us today. Damn near sigle handedly. Good god those two were awesome together. I hate you both. :p jk gg guys. Inspiration and rage was had. Keep up the good work! And stay the hell away from me! :p Sorry for the interruption...
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 377	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:31:00 - [2080] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: How scout layouts should be MK.0 3 highs / 3 lows CK.0 4 highs / 2 lows GK.0 2 highs / 4 lows AK.0 2 highs / 3 lows / 2nd grenade slot and 1 equipment slot Others get 2nd equipment slot How I would prefer to see it.

First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1102	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:32:00 - [2081] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: How scout layouts should be MK.0 4 highs / 2 lows CK.0 5 highs / 1 low GK.0 1 high / 5 lows AK.0 2 highs / 3 lows / 2nd equipment slot or 1 high / 4 lows / 2nd equipment slot 3 lows on the minmatar please! I've only been asking for it on the last two pages. :(
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 377	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:37:00 - [2082] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: +1 on the scout tournament (although I would get a pretty intense beat down I'm sure) +1 for additional low slot on Minja and high slot on Gallente Sad to hear speed taking is hard for higher level scouts to make work. I've also given up speed tanking and just use my fast fits for the initial rush. After that it's all scanning/stealth or armor reps. What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_- Minmatar is kind of the worst race to be. Throughout the Universe the race's theme is low HP, high base speed, low CPU/PG Gallente is always the best when it comes to a Speed vs HP balance. Take those high slots and use damage mods and run an AR. Flank them from a distance. Let the Gallente charge in and blast them away. Your nova knife bonus is a gimmick and not suited for he Suit's attributes at all. If we dont get an additional low slot I think we should definitely get a slightly higher movement speed and a higher sprint speed. Agree on using damage mods. Hopefully Combat Rifle (whenever it comes) will work out to scare AR users. I assume CCP wanted us (Min Scouts) to use Precision mod or Melee mod in the 3rd High slot but just dont see them being worth it.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 377	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:39:00 - [2083] - Quote First Prophet wrote: 3 lows on the minmatar please! I've only been asking for it on the last two pages. :( Many have been asking for awhile now (3/3 and 2/4) but CCP hasnt given any indication.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 50	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:42:00 - [2084] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: How scout layouts should be MK.0 4 highs / 2 lows CK.0 5 highs / 1 low GK.0 1 high / 5 lows AK.0 2 highs / 3 lows / 2nd equipment slot or 1 high / 4 lows / 2nd equipment slot Ck.0 3 High / 3 low If they had only one low for any scout suit would limit my ability to be a scout i wound not want to chose between a range amplifier or dampener.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1102	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:51:00 - [2085] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cass Caul wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: +1 on the scout tournament (although I would get a pretty intense beat down I'm sure) +1 for additional low slot on Minja and high slot on Gallente Sad to hear speed taking is hard for higher level scouts to make work. I've also given up speed tanking and just use my fast fits for the initial rush. After that it's all scanning/stealth or armor reps. What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_- Minmatar is kind of the worst race to be. Throughout the Universe the race's theme is low HP, high base speed, low CPU/PG Gallente is always the best when it comes to a Speed vs HP balance. Take those high slots and use damage mods and run an AR. Flank them from a distance. Let the Gallente charge in and blast them away. Your nova knife bonus is a gimmick and not suited for he Suit's attributes at all. If we dont get an additional low slot I think we should definitely get a slightly higher movement speed and a higher sprint speed. Agree on using damage mods. Hopefully Combat Rifle (whenever it comes) will work out to scare AR users. I assume CCP wanted us (Min Scouts) to use Precision mod or Melee mod in the 3rd High slot but just dont see them being worth it. Precision mods are stupid not worth it since we have poo base scanning range. And melee mods are equally worthless considering we have the lowest base melee. Being a minmatar in EVE is actually pretty good, we have the better PVP ships or so I heard. In Dust though, the minmatar scout is pretty bad. It's racial bonuses are just gimmicks. And it suffers more from not having that extra slot than the gallente. Nyra Volki wrote: Ck.0 3 High / 3 low If they had only one low for any scout suit would limit my ability to be a scout i wound not want to chose between a range amplifier or dampener. You mean choose between range amplifiers, dampeners, stamina mods, kinetic catalyzers, armor reps, shield regulators. Choices for high slots: Damage mods, shield extenders.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 377	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:58:00 - [2086] - Quote I put my suggestions on previous page though they ended up as the last post MK.0 3 highs / 3 lows CK.0 4 highs / 2 lows GK.0 2 highs / 4 lows AK.0 2 highs / 3 lows / 2nd grenade slot and 1 equipment slot Others get 2nd equipment slot
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 314	Posted - 2013.09.24 16:00:00 - [2087] - Quote you forgot the mighty precision enhancers and shield energizers
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2013	Posted - 2013.09.24 16:01:00 - [2088] - Quote Guess what is in a Dev Blog but not in game Radar Absorbing Armor Plating I want it....sooooo much
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1428	Posted - 2013.09.24 16:45:00 - [2089] - Quote I made a post about scouts needing an extra mod slot. Here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110464&find=unread
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 179	Posted - 2013.09.24 16:55:00 - [2090] - Quote First Prophet wrote: MDs aren't really used anymore. And it's not like shield scouts do any better against grenades. 'Cause they don't. yesterday, I was getting repeated wiped, attempting to defend a CRU from some AR medium bozo, using my usual stuff. So I ended up switching to MD. For that specific situation (where stealth was just not an option, and he was a fast litle SOB...) That worked mUUUCH betterz. Even with just the initial MD. Got him 3/0. He shed much tears, and decided to grudge hunt me for the rest of the game I think he only got me when I ran out of ammo. sigh. (Had to switch to my Covenant C1 for the fit, though. Shhhh.. it'll be our secret)

Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 50	Posted - 2013.09.24 18:31:00 - [2091] - Quote I was thinking and thought what would the racial bonus be for the Caldari and Amarr. So all scout suits get 5% reduction to scan profile per level Gallente bonus is +10% to scan radius per level Minmatar bonus is +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level Base on that Caldari bonus would be +10% scan precision per level Amarr bonus would be +5% to scrambler pistol damage per level So what do you guys think.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 179	Posted - 2013.09.24 18:34:00 - [2092] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: I was thinking and thought what would the racial bonus be for the Caldari and Amarr. So all scout suits get 5% reduction to scan profile per level Gallente bonus is +10% to scan radius per level Minmatar bonus is +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level Base on that Caldari bonus would be +10% scan precision per level Amarr bonus would be +5% to scrambler pistol damage per level So what do you guys think. Since when do Amarr care about sidearms? Clearly, it should be AR bonus
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 50	Posted - 2013.09.24 18:39:00 - [2093] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: I was thinking and thought what would the racial bonus be for the Caldari and Amarr. So all scout suits get 5% reduction to scan profile per level Gallente bonus is +10% to scan radius per level Minmatar bonus is +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level Base on that Caldari bonus would be +10% scan precision per level Amarr bonus would be +5% to scrambler pistol damage per level So what do you guys think. Since when do Amarr care about sidearms? Clearly, it should be AR bonus I made this suggestion base off race and what kind of slots they might get. Also AR is Gallente weapon and the AR is already to powerful. So NO!
Gh0st C0de Spirit Collective 48	Posted - 2013.09.24 18:41:00 - [2094] - Quote I just noticed Shotty's latest killboard update. I never pay much attention to my K/D R since I usually land in the top three at the end of a match through super aggressive hacking and strategic uplink drops. I now realize why I ignore my K/D R... Regardless, thank you for the update Shotty.
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 300	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:11:00 - [2095] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: I just noticed Shotty's latest killboard update. I never pay much attention to my K/D R since I usually land in the top three at the end of a match through super aggressive hacking and strategic uplink drops. I now realize why I ignore my K/D R... Regardless, thank you for the update Shotty. The board shows that on average, your KD/R will increase as your SP/Kills increase. Just give it time. When you can Proto Stomp on a regular basis, your KD/R tends to go up
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 180	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:48:00 - [2096] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Since when do Amarr care about sidearms? Clearly, it should be AR bonus I made this suggestion base off race and what kind of slots they might get. Also AR is Gallente weapon and the AR is already to powerful. So NO! oops, sorry. I should have said laser rifle. My bad.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:52:00 - [2097] - Quote ugh. could we keep the repeat posts to a minimum. over 105 pages, a whole page is dedicated to "I wants Scouts this way!" or "They should be like that!" about ever 7-8 pages. and it doesn't change. it is literally the same 3 things over and over again
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 301	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:55:00 - [2098] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: ugh. could we keep the repeat posts to a minimum. over 105 pages, a whole page is dedicated to "I wants Scouts this way!" or "They should be like that!" about ever 7-8 pages. and it doesn't change. it is literally the same 3 things over and over again Eh. It'll happen anyways. We also use this thread to bounce idea's off of each other, and to have someone cry with us over dumb scout suit issues. Just go with the flow man. Get a haircut while you are here too
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 50	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:31:00 - [2099] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: ugh. could we keep the repeat posts to a minimum. over 105 pages, a whole page is dedicated to "I wants Scouts this way!" or "They should be like that!" about ever 7-8 pages. and it doesn't change. it is literally the same 3 things over and over again If you don't like whats being talk about then start a new conversation.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:58:00 - [2100] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: I was thinking and thought what would the racial bonus be for the Caldari and Amarr. So all scout suits get 5% reduction to scan profile per level Gallente bonus is +10% to scan radius per level Minmatar bonus is +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level Base on that Caldari bonus would be +10% scan precision per level Amarr bonus would be +5% to scrambler pistol damage per level So what do you guys think. I hope the Cal Scout gets a better bonus than that. With a 10m passive scan range and range extenders being low slot modules, that bonus would be next to useless. However, if, as Oswald Rehnquist suggested, E-War equipment effectiveness was based on scan precision, then yes, that bonus would be excellent and befitting the Cal Scout. Edit: And the Amarr scout getting a 25% bonus to SP damage at lvl 5 might be a bit too much.



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