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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1103
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:58:00 -
[1471] - Quote
This aim assist bs needs to go I just lost 3 mill in 3 matches |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
415
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:15:00 -
[1472] - Quote
Switched to Lasers and the auto assist let me melt serious faces during my lunch break. Paired it with an SMG and an Active Scanner and at worst I broke even. I am not even skilled into lasers and was just using my free burnstalks I got a while back. I imagine Lasers are going to be the new FOTM this build.
Downside is I was still in a Scout suit lol... I imagine if I had been in an Assault I would have had nearly zero deaths. Took some getting used to also. Had to run away right after using the dang thing every time cause its like lighting a flaming arrow in the dark saying HERE I AM! COME KILL ME! |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
844
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:19:00 -
[1473] - Quote
I will be forever a SCOUT!
I'll just be using a Minmatar Logi with 8.7 speed, 3 equipment and around 650 HP.
:3 |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
970
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:27:00 -
[1474] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:This aim assist bs needs to go I just lost 3 mill in 3 matches I've run into similar issue. Been forced to downgrade to using more basic/BPO fits because of this. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
944
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:40:00 -
[1475] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:This aim assist bs needs to go I just lost 3 mill in 3 matches I've run into similar issue. Been forced to downgrade to using more basic/BPO fits because of this.
I've had success today (2-5 KDR) with the following cheap fit (under 30k):
Adv Gal Shotgun Scout
- Two Complex Shield Extenders
- Dren/Standard Shotgun
- Toxin/Standard SMG
- A-19 Active Scanner
- Locus Nade
- Complex KinCat
- Militia CPU Chip
I've had huge success with my pricy proto fit, though I've lost lots of millions of Isk experimenting:
Pro Gal Shotgun Scout
- Complex Shield Extenders
- Creodron Shotgun
- Six Kin SMG
- A-19 Active Scanner
- M1 Locus Nade
- Complex KinCat
- Complex ArmRep
- Basic Armor Plate
- Militia CPU Chip
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
970
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:45:00 -
[1476] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:First Prophet wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:This aim assist bs needs to go I just lost 3 mill in 3 matches I've run into similar issue. Been forced to downgrade to using more basic/BPO fits because of this. I've had success today (2-5 KDR) with the following cheap fit (under 30k): Adv Gal Shotgun Scout- Two Complex Extenders
- Dren/Standard Shotgun
- Toxin/Standard SMG
- Locus Nade
- Complex KinCat
- Militia CPU Chip
No equipment though. I'd like to at least fit an AVD scanner to know what areas to avoid. And I've had more success dropping the kincats and fitting complex cardiac regulators instead. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1071
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:45:00 -
[1477] - Quote
My proto scout: -Enhanced Shield ext -Duvolle Shotgun -KLO1 Pistol -Core Nades -Nanohive -Complex Kinetic -Complex Plate -Basic Plate -Complex Repair 108shield 404 armor
Beast build |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
944
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:47:00 -
[1478] - Quote
First Prophet wrote: No equipment though. I'd like to at least fit an AVD scanner to know what areas to avoid. And I've had more success dropping the kincats and fitting complex cardiac regulators instead.
Noticed that! Fixed it. I'm diggin' the A-19 due to its super-fast recycle time. Left it out in error.
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
970
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:56:00 -
[1479] - Quote
CCP needs to make a standard MD BPO. And STD minmatar scout BPO. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
944
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:04:00 -
[1480] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:My proto scout: -Enhanced Shield ext -Duvolle Shotgun -KLO1 Pistol -Core Nades -Nanohive -Complex Kinetic -Complex Plate -Basic Plate -Complex Repair 108shield 404 armor
Beast build
Hadn't tried Armor Tanking since the big fix. Gonna give it a go right now :-) |
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
348
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:52:00 -
[1481] - Quote
BARDAS wrote:Switched to Lasers and the auto assist let me melt serious faces during my lunch break. Paired it with an SMG and an Active Scanner and at worst I broke even. I am not even skilled into lasers and was just using my free burnstalks I got a while back. I imagine Lasers are going to be the new FOTM this build.
Downside is I was still in a Scout suit lol... I imagine if I had been in an Assault I would have had nearly zero deaths. Took some getting used to also. Had to run away right after using the dang thing every time cause its like lighting a flaming arrow in the dark saying HERE I AM! COME KILL ME!
Did this for a little bit tonight as well, you are correct on all counts . Not really my style but laser rifle will rule for some.
Sinboto Simmons wrote:This aim assist bs needs to go I just lost 3 mill in 3 matches
If you cant beat em ***** em - Adv suit with two complex dmg mods and Exile AR - basic AR is 34 DMG @ 750 RPM while adv AScR is 38 @ 706 RPM
Definitely my new go to suit when I need ISK or on a strong team. |
Cirandelas Indoriath
Pradox One
2
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:52:00 -
[1482] - Quote
Shotty can you add Cirandelas to the registry? Is there something I need to do? |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1125
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:13:00 -
[1483] - Quote
My fellow True Blood Minja just showed me an entirely new way to run scout and damn am I loving it |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
951
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:24:00 -
[1484] - Quote
Cirandelas Indoriath wrote:Shotty can you add Cirandelas to the registry? Is there something I need to do? Yes, sir! I'll add you on the next update. It'll be next Monday or Tuesday, so we'll have about a week's worth of stats to analyze. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
16
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:27:00 -
[1485] - Quote
I just played a game with the "gonna die anyway" philosophy and infiltrated a strongpoint, laid some RE love for the folks..... and murder-death-killed to some happy results. Most importantly for me at least it was fun, stealth worked, minor upgrade to passive scan made a world of difference. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
956
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:21:00 -
[1486] - Quote
Who wants popcorn? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1269422 |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
71
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:25:00 -
[1487] - Quote
Driftward wrote:voidfaction wrote: So true - my plight. passive scan has nice range behind too but no matter everyone can be sneaked up on when distracted or because of dampeners. and yes most mediums and heavies light up my radar like a christmas tree at close to 60m range and I only have gallente scout lvl3 and so does quite a few scouts not using dampeners and not at lvl 5 scout suit. 1. What you just said is impossible. 2. Passive scan range is terribad and anyone saying otherwise has never sat down and looked at the numbers and then looked at what that corresponds to in game. 3. Even if you have level 5 in range amp and you fit 2 complex range mods (fills all your lows in an advanced suit) You at most have 40 m radius and just hamstrung yourself in terms of your lows. No kincats or armor plates. That doesn't work (well not very well at any rate). Also, precision without skill is 45 dB for all suits. At full skill that turns to ~40 dB add one complex mod and you get ~32 dB. In a full proto scout with level 3 in profile dampening you have a profile of ~31 dB without any modules. No scout with skill in dampening will ever show up on your radar unless you go HEAVY into precision enhancers. Even then if you add one complex dampener to any suit you get to ~31 dB (non-scout) or ~23 dB (level 5 racial scout). Sure if you want to waste space on your suit and you don't want to show up on anyones minimap ever....go for it. But my advice is to stick with buffer modules (shield/armor) and range amplifiers.
Not impossible because I'm doing it. Not on advanced suit with a proto gallente scout. Neo suits at lvl 3
You can think its broke all you want. This was not based off numbers it from 2 days testing with 50 neo suits.
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
71
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:27:00 -
[1488] - Quote
Kodho wrote:Voidfaction, if you are up for it, I would like to run a few skirmish matches with you tonight. Like I said previously, I'm a sniper scout and would like to see how you operate and trade ideas. I'm usually on after 10:00pm est. I'll look you up on scouts united.
I work 3rd shift |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
71
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:33:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I just played a game with the "gonna die anyway" philosophy and infiltrated a strongpoint, laid some RE love for the folks..... and murder-death-killed to some happy results. Most importantly for me at least it was fun, stealth worked, minor upgrade to passive scan made a world of difference.
Going to try out the REs now that i got my range.sounds like a fun role to play |
JieXi Bao
DUST University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:33:00 -
[1490] - Quote
I haven't played enough to really get a feel for it, but I quite like the profile dampening tacnet changes. I had a great time harassing a heavy and then disappearing from his radar just by turning a corner.
Also, 31, male, Nevada (until I move to China soon (tm)). |
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
17
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:14:00 -
[1491] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:Llast 326 wrote:I just played a game with the "gonna die anyway" philosophy and infiltrated a strongpoint, laid some RE love for the folks..... and murder-death-killed to some happy results. Most importantly for me at least it was fun, stealth worked, minor upgrade to passive scan made a world of difference. Going to try out the REs now that i got my range.sounds like a fun role to play Blowing things up is always enjoyable and the more interesting ways you can do it the more fun it is... surprise placements are always great... when they don't know you were even there all the better. Experimentation is always fun with bombs. I wish you could actually put them in a LAV drive top speed eject and BOOM. Sadly this does not work, as they just fall off |
Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
44
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:29:00 -
[1492] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:My proto scout: -Enhanced Shield ext -Duvolle Shotgun -KLO1 Pistol -Core Nades -Nanohive -Complex Kinetic -Complex Plate -Basic Plate -Complex Repair 108shield 404 armor
Beast build dude O.o.... if i just could fit my scout like that, i would be unstopable :3 |
Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
86
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:01:00 -
[1493] - Quote
Sg is back and so am I. Tacnet changes are great. Aim is too good for ar but oh well. Staying hidden is key. Good matches last night. Best was 17/8/7. Adv gal scout basic precision enhanced extender, Enhanced kin kat Enhanced dampener A-19 scanner Locus or flux Specialist sg Toxin smg bpo
Good times |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
54
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:46:00 -
[1494] - Quote
Morathi III wrote:Lucifalic wrote:Just out curiosity and don't feel obglicated to answer but I was wondering where all our scoutly brothers are from and are you an old school gamer like I am. I'm in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada and 34 yrs old. Ps your never too old to play vids so don't let them tell you otherwise. ;) Edmundston , New-Brunswick , Canada 29 o/
The most racist city in Canada outside of the province of Quebec! We were denied service at a motel for speaking English on our way through, and your subway has a line for French people and a line for English people! And no one works the English line! Very Back-of-the-bus. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
432
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:37:00 -
[1495] - Quote
Anyone having any luck with Knives this patch? Been doing horrible with my fitting from last patch. Thinking about ditching them completely for the time being and putting SP into Shotguns to go with my SMG and possibly going Gallente Light up to ADV as well. No point in staying Minmatar if i'm not using my knives |
Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
461
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:48:00 -
[1496] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:
Not impossible because I'm doing it. Not on advanced suit with a proto gallente scout. Neo suits at lvl 3
You can think its broke all you want. This was not based off numbers it from 2 days testing with 50 neo suits.
If I wanted armor or shield I would be in an assault suit
So you did some 'science'? (asking honestly) Is this confirmed that you can see people at 60 m with only lvl 3 in racial scouts? Are you using 3-4 range amplifiers? I'm just trying to get the math on what we have to line up with what you're saying. Do you have any extra skill in precision enhancers?
Do scouts ever show up on your passives with your set up? This is the especially important question as it will tell us very important information of how eWAR is working. Are these scouts in frame suits or are they skilled into racials or dampening? These are need to know items. To understand the system and build the most efficient fittings we need to know if passives are black and white (if your profile is below your precision you never show up / less likely to show up) or some probability driven mechanic.
I'm willing to kick in some ISK, say 1 mill, if someone can give me video data that answers some of these questions. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
72
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Posted - 2013.09.06 16:09:00 -
[1497] - Quote
Driftward wrote:voidfaction wrote:
Not impossible because I'm doing it. Not on advanced suit with a proto gallente scout. Neo suits at lvl 3
You can think its broke all you want. This was not based off numbers it from 2 days testing with 50 neo suits.
If I wanted armor or shield I would be in an assault suit
So you did some 'science'? (asking honestly) Is this confirmed that you can see people at 60 m with only lvl 3 in racial scouts? Are you using 3-4 range amplifiers? I'm just trying to get the math on what we have to line up with what you're saying. Do you have any extra skill in precision enhancers? Do scouts ever show up on your passives with your set up? This is the especially important question as it will tell us very important information of how eWAR is working. Are these scouts in frame suits or are they skilled into racials or dampening? These are need to know items. To understand the system and build the most efficient fittings we need to know if passives are black and white (if your profile is below your precision you never show up / less likely to show up) or some probability driven mechanic. I'm willing to kick in some ISK, say 1 mill, if someone can give me video data that answers some of these questions.
yes, i have range lvl 5 and use 3 complex range. lvl 3 precision using 1 advanced precision enhancer and it covers my back side very well too.
I see scouts but not as much and they are not as brightly lit most of the time. quessing the closer to beating my precision they don't show as bright. if your hunting other scouts your best bet is logi suit or duvolle focused scanner.
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Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
45
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Posted - 2013.09.06 16:31:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Anyone having any luck with Knives this patch? Been doing horrible with my fitting from last patch. Thinking about ditching them completely for the time being and putting SP into Shotguns to go with my SMG and possibly going Gallente Light up to ADV as well. No point in staying Minmatar if i'm not using my knives
ya knives dont work... today i had a match were i had to knife a heavy 4 times (charged swipes) before he went down... i connected every time (the hitting anymation/sound was there) but no dmg was dealt.... what really strange was that he had 0 deaths at the end screen O.o despite the fact i knived him to death :/
And my KDR is decreasing since the new patch... maybe i'll make some end screen pics and post them here together with older pics from last built for some research... oh and every fking one is using AR's.... when you dont oneshot them even a guy in militia gear can kill you with his militia AR in a blink of an eye :/
great..... |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
232
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:12:00 -
[1499] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:Driftward wrote:voidfaction wrote:
Not impossible because I'm doing it. Not on advanced suit with a proto gallente scout. Neo suits at lvl 3
You can think its broke all you want. This was not based off numbers it from 2 days testing with 50 neo suits.
If I wanted armor or shield I would be in an assault suit
So you did some 'science'? (asking honestly) Is this confirmed that you can see people at 60 m with only lvl 3 in racial scouts? Are you using 3-4 range amplifiers? I'm just trying to get the math on what we have to line up with what you're saying. Do you have any extra skill in precision enhancers? Do scouts ever show up on your passives with your set up? This is the especially important question as it will tell us very important information of how eWAR is working. Are these scouts in frame suits or are they skilled into racials or dampening? These are need to know items. To understand the system and build the most efficient fittings we need to know if passives are black and white (if your profile is below your precision you never show up / less likely to show up) or some probability driven mechanic. I'm willing to kick in some ISK, say 1 mill, if someone can give me video data that answers some of these questions. yes, i have range lvl 5 and use 3 complex range. lvl 3 precision using 1 advanced precision enhancer and it covers my back side very well too. I see scouts but not as much and they are not as brightly lit most of the time. quessing the closer to beating my precision they don't show as bright. if your hunting other scouts your best bet is logi suit or duvolle focused scanner. Duvolle focused scanner may be too much of a resource pig to fit on a scout frame.. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1711
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:56:00 -
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God, my deaths are down the toilet. I got OHK'd by a single shot from a 80J Scattered Blaster, twice. OHK'd by advanced level sniper, same with militia when I am slightly injured. Tactical ARs have got me in very little time, duvolles, don't even get me started on Duvolles.
My best kill streaks are when I have a gek and two damage mods. It's getting on my nerves. ~It's A Hard Knock Life, For Us~ I will persist but, ugh. |
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