nope. they've been dead silent except telling us that it was planned for 1.4, then moved to 1.5, and I'm pretty sure that when that gets close, they'll push it to 1.6, then 7, then 2.0, then they'll just announce that they're flat out lying to us and vehicles are actually getting nerfed deeper into the ground.

Can you give us any preliminary numbers? Will you also tell us why you didn't like how the changes were coming?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1183027#post1183027

Called it, over a month ago. How does anyone maintain faith in CCP at this point?

So they're not scrapped, just delayed.

However, there is some good news. next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility.

No vehicle balance is bad news, but no new weapons are even worse for me :-(.

I feel like a sad panda.

Suggestion: Tweak some of the fairly obvious NUMBERS in 1.5 - give tanks 20% increased HP across the board, 10% PG/CPU boost and triple the shield boost amount so it is similar to currently-bugged armor rep rates.

At least do some triage on the issue.

I'd much rather have feedback time then changes now, so I'm cool with this.

is it delayed because you figured out you cant balance vehicles without fixing the rendering problem?

:P

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1183027#post1183027

Called it, over a month ago. How does anyone maintain faith in CCP at this point?

Smart man.

so your suggestion is not to balance av versus vehicles, or vehicles versus infantry, it's just to majorly buff vehicles so that they rarely die.

if all they wanted to do was make vehicles indestructible i'm pretty sure they could of had this patch out 2 months ago.

Can you give us any preliminary numbers? Will you also tell us why you didn't like how the changes were coming?

or ....vehicles are just really hard to balance, feel free to tell us how you would do it so we can promply point out all the flaws in your plan.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1183027#post1183027

Called it, over a month ago. How does anyone maintain faith in CCP at this point?

Amen.

HP buffs to all vehicles barring LAVs(~5%), minor damage nerfs to AV(~5%) weaponry, AV grenades become contact grenades with high damage, but a tiny radius(flaylock LV.1 sized, you want your massive damage, you earn it).

15% price reduction across the board for vehicles and turrets(modules seem just about right in pricing V. effectiveness).

seems like a decent start, not a huge rework(they have the code for contact grenades in already), its all just a numbers shift.

You said the same about PvE.



You said the same thing last week. About a devblog coming out this week.

It's super easy to predict failure and super difficult to aim high and succeed. But I guess you deserve a cookie for your Nostradamus-like future sight.

('.) <-- there it is. You earned it!
so round
cookie 4 u
saw failure in game
wow u did it
here cookie
2 chocolate chips

.... So all we have to look forword to is a blance patch. ..

NOMNOMNOM! Thanks!

It's only easy to predict if there's an established pattern.

I am General John Ripper and this thread is now officially approved by me.

I stop caring what was put into the patch notes on the forums.

The community is still just going to pick it to bits, and then whine with dozens of threads that the thing they wanted wasn't put in.

Between that, and a overly cynical community when it comes to updates, to avoid pre-release whining, CCP probably could just hold the notes until release. However, out if kindness, the probably are going to release the notes anyway, and I get to watch a show.

*grabs popcorn*

:words: and I think aside the occasional bit of hyperbole and bad math - our input can be very good. If this delay is an open invitation to actually have us aid in the balancing/stats of these weapons and vehicles; that's a good thing. I just hope that's actually the case.

I think a lot of us had reservations about the vehicle changes that were incoming (how many threads about that were there?), and I guess many of us were pondering the wisdom of seemingly changing AV or Vehicles and balancing the two separately while having proto AV but the standard vehicles.

There's also something to be said about how you balance weapons when a set of them are still missing. I guess that's an eternal conflict: balancing while adding new stuff. We all want the missing suits, vehicles, weapons, etc., but we also want things to be balanced as-is.

I think in the past the community hasn't always been heeded with respect to practical advice. The initial armor plate stats for ferroscale/reactive are a good example. I don't know that they're particularly great now either. When stats are adjusted across the board on armor, you also wonder if the ramifications of those changes needed to be addressed in other areas. Then there's useful changes to the game which have nothing to do with balance or new items.

Really, we want everything, and we want it yesterday.

As ornery a community as we can be, we put in a lot of hours playing the game, and I think aside the occasional bit of hyperbole and bad math - our input can be very good. If this delay is an open invitation to actually have us aid in the balancing/stats of these weapons and vehicles; that's a good thing. I just hope that's actually the case.

If, by established pattern, you mean your own cynically cherry picked chain of events that ignore all of the things that were improved, then yes. That is very easy to predict.

I believe what you're referring to was Foxfour saying he was writing a dev blog this week. It's not finished yet, but it's getting closer.

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

isnt 1.5 all about those two topics, what will 1.5 include then?

I am Heathen Bastard and I don't give one flaming ****.

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

I wonder if corp roles will be fully customizable and what permissions will be available.

I would like a special role called "That one taco guy who approves things"

this is great :)

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First set of better tutorials

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials
this is great :)

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Ug ok the patch will improve things but we really need a new gamemode

No individual ADS sensitivity sliders ?

Tada ain't just no more lone wolfing cause I can't find a squad!!
Logibro will the squad finder include the ability to choose mic or non-mic only squads?

Agreed, corp roles and wp rewards are exciting to me. I'm hoping this means the bonus to active scanning!

Heathen, I also agree with you on them needing to figure out vehicles. See how easy that was, though? You went from proclaiming doom and destruction to actually voicing an opinion about a specific thing you dislike. Try starting off with that and less hyperbole and we'll all be better off for it.

Unfortunately that also got pushed back. It's still on it's way, just not in 1.5.

Einstein believed the best questions were the simplest ones. +1 Chances ghost ;)

I'm mad.

this feature would make squad finder perfect! <3

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>> First set of better tutorials <<

Like, i look at eve with the sh!t ton of ships and modules, and naturally think ccp's a bit of a boss at this kind of thing, whats making it so difficult?

It's taken EVE 10 years of balancing to get there, and there are still OP weapons, modules and ships. They are working on a game wide ship rebalance and it's going to take a long time to get through them all. It's a slow and difficult process.

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New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So they're not scrapped, just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)

the wierd part is they diddnt bring any of that balancing experiance to dust.

they are making mistakes in dust that they learned to fix in eve

the wierd part is they diddnt bring any of that balancing experiance to dust.

they are making mistakes in dust that they learned to fix in eve

In their defence things are very different in DUST because players have direct control of the characters/vehicles, and that direct control is a powerful magnifier of any imbalances. Imo Eve is also a very clean balancing environment because there is range and falloff, but no cover.

I think that's a fair criticism. The lack of a testing environment for players to submit feedback has been one of the most outstanding issues from my perspective. I can't imagine trying to develop a game on the scale of DUST with a limited team and no test server for players to beta test upcoming changes. A lot of the major hiccups might have been caught earlier like the TAC-AR issues at the launch of Uprising, or the shotgun hit detection bug in 1.4. I also think CCP is improving it's approach and getting the community involved earlier in the process (as evidenced by this thread). Yes it can be more painful, and you're going to have to deal with more whining on the forums, but the released content will be much better.

They need to give these guys some more resources to work with.

There is a lot of doom and gloom on these forums so I hate to do it, but I just don't see it.

It's so hard to try and schedule a PC battle right now because you just don't know if people are going to log in. The matchmaking deal put the finishing touches on many people who were on the fence. There's A LOT of people who've been in a holding pattern to see what's done with vehicles.

With the release of some new games, I'm thinking this is going to be a pretty empty server soon.

I hope I'm wrong, but in my opinion we are seeing the end.

I wasn't planning on it BC I was excited for 1.5, but now that vehicle changes have been pushed back, I'm gonna go play GTA5.

so let me get this straight.

new weapons will NOT be coming out In 1.5?

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So they're not scrapped, just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)

I hope that new "tutorial" thing doesn't mean more pop-up windows full of text.

CCP ..you guys are so full of ****... looks like u wont be happy until every last die hard player leaves n starts playing better games that don't involve us waiting months to be fix .. get your ******* heads out of your ass n handle business
you lose players with each patch... wtf is wrong with u?
don't just ban me or hide my post... man up .. and answer the question... what the **** is wrong with yous?

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Not in 1.5. We're aiming for 1.6, but that's not going to be confirmed till we get closer to it's release date.

You can just press square to never see them again, but I do agree; new players aren't going to take the time and read. New players need to be thrown into an empty map do to some tutorials for shooting, quick-swapping guns, using equipment, hacking, calling in vehicles, setting squad orders, calling in strikes, etc.

CCP ..you guys are so full of s.h.i.t... looks like u wont be happy until every last die hard player leaves n starts playing better games that don't involve us waiting months to be fix .. get your fu.ck.ing heads out of your a.s.s. n handle business
you lose players with each patch... wtf is wrong with u?
don't just ban me or hide my post... man up .. and answer the question... what the fu.ck is wrong with yous?

You can just press square to never see them again, but I do agree; new players aren't going to take the time and read. New players need to be thrown into an empty map do to some tutorials for shooting, quick-swapping guns, using equipment, hacking, calling in vehicles, setting squad orders, calling in strikes, etc.

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So they're not scrapped, just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)

Is there any way that you can flag an existing character to be able to see the new tutorials? A few of us want to provide feedback but have all of our character slots full up.

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[quote=CCP Logibro]Logibro how would you sell this patch to the corp

Not in 1.5. We're aiming for 1.6, but that's not going to be confirmed till we get closer to it's release date.

That's actually a good question. I have no idea at this stage. While I would recommend you just make a new account, you would be better off asking that question in the thread for the dev blog when it gets published.

You can just press square to never see them again, but I do agree; new players aren't going to take the time and read. New players need to be thrown into an empty map do to some tutorials for shooting, quick-swapping guns, using equipment, hacking, calling in vehicles, setting squad orders, calling in strikes, etc.

That's actually a good question. I have no idea at this stage. While I would recommend you just make a new account, you would be better off asking that question in the thread for the dev blog when it gets published.

That's actually a good question. I have no idea at this stage. While I would recommend you just make a new account, you would be better off asking that question in the thread for the dev blog when it gets published.

Do you know if the new outpost is still being slated for 1.5 or were there complications? See below:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUPoT3jCEAAQAK0.jpg

Do you know if the new outpost is still being slated for 1.5 or were there complications? See below:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUPoT3jCEAAQAK0.jpg

New map was never scheduled for 1.5.

Gallente Research with supporting small and medium sockets comes out in 1.4.
New terrain most likely in 1.4 as well.

We are aiming for:
Caldari Production Facility and its supporting sockets for 1.7
(Art blockout phase currently)

Minmatar Cargo Hub and supporting sockets TBD
(it's in a bsp blockout phase now, and is coming along nicely)

This is purely from level design and environment art. Speaking of which. Currently Team Knee 101 is doing the outposts, and Team Daddies is doing the terrains. We are sub team inside of Team Flash.

Well since I'm here and logibro seems to be posting may as well take a crack at it.

Are there any planed fixes for scouts, demolition speced explosives, and missle tanks planed for 1.6?

That's correct. Next outpost is slated for ~1.7: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1094047#post1094047

Aeon, you even posted in that thread acknowledging the 1.7!

First two are on the to do list, but with no date yet. Last one would be part of the vehicle rebalance.

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So they're not scrapped, just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)

Bubble shields, Cloaks, and Trees ?

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It's a free game in name only. I know a lot of people that have spent more on this game than any other game they've ever played.

I know I easily have. To be quite honest it's one of the main reasons I'm still here. I'd wager I'm not alone in this.

Suppose they were scrapped because sneakily implementing the remaining suits got in the way?
(I am willing keep the Art Dept, or whoever that is now, in a fresh supply of caffeine and amphetamines to get them sooner than SoonGäó)

2steps forward. 2steps back.

This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you.

First, let me say that I appreciate CCP being transparent with us. This is important for the health of the game.

Second, I'm glad they're holding things back if they're not ready. This is infinitely preferable to rushing out buggy or imbalanced additions/changes.

I am of course disappointed because it means everything else will be pushed further back. I hope CCP takes this opportunity to seriously consider adding vehicle capacitors. There will never be a better time to do it, and it might become too difficult later as they add in more vehicle content. CCP might be able to repurpose the stamina system in the vehicle capacitor implementation. I also think the new player experience should be the priority for 1.5, and am glad they are working on this. Bringing in new players is vital to the long-term health of DUST.

I also really hope CCP considers adding my test range suggestion soon. This would give us the opportunity to play test upcoming changes and weapons/suits/equipment in an isolated environment that won't break the game. I suspect this would greatly help with finding bugs and balancing issues before they make it into production, and it would give us something else to do in the meantime. It would also greatly enhance the new player experience by letting them mess around with different suits/weapons/vehicles to give their training a direction they know they'll enjoy. CCP has limited resources, so tapping the resource of it's devoted player community is not only wise, but crazy not to do. CCP: ask the EVE devs what their development process would have been like without the feedback and bug reports generated by the players on SISI.

MARKETPLACE?

Just new stuff or can I sell some of my crap back to the marketplace?

Anyhow, I guess any progress is good. I'm happy that you want to get balances right before you release items.

It sounds like this patch will be more like 1.3, with little new content.


Munch

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read my name and guess wat is mean

why do you want to change AR ranges?? F...K

Yes, I'm a little disappointed as well with seeing two major areas (vehicle changes and new weapons) being pushed back to 1.6. I could understand that you'd need to push one or the other back (to perfect the other), but pushing both back is disappointing. However, I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what you guys are actually bringing to the table in 1.5 before posting how I feel about the changes. Baseline, though, it's VERY disheartening to know that new weapons are off the table for 1.5, since it would have been nice to have all racial rifles/play styles reflected finally.

I do have to hand it to you, though, CCP, you guys are damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you had released the vehicle balancing/new weapons in 1.5, but they'd have been incomplete, then you'd have been crucified for releasing buggy/unbalanced/unfinished changes, and yet if you pull them to make them better for release, you get crucified anyway. I feel for you guys that you're in a no-win scenario.

To address some of the posters here, though: you guys don't think CCP is raving mad to get new features/suits/weapons out?? Of course they do. They know much more of the vision than we do. They know where art assets are at, vfx, balancing, implementation, QC, etc. are. Believe me (as a developer myself) that they want to do whatever is necessary to get these out, and I'm sure it was a tough decision to pull these most-desired features. But, if the NPE is improved with tutorials, and that in turn helps newberries sticking around, then it's probably a win-win for us all: getting new players to play the game only expands the player base, grows the game, and improves its health. That's great for the game and all of us, because then CCP can build/add-in new things for bittervets (do we have those so soon?) and newbs alike can have fun with new kit occasionally. Plus, CCP is pushing updates every month or so. It's not like the new weapons/vehicle changes are pushed back for a 6-month expansion window, and if CCP is giving us the opportunity to look at the changes (and comment) beforehand, then I think that's probably an acceptable compromise.

Want to try and complete the tutorial with nova knives and a fat suit

or ....vehicles are just really hard to balance, feel free to tell us how you would do it so we can promply point out all the flaws in your plan.

So, when can I expect to get the changes mentioned below?

This first one is a must have: Let's say I'm using the DS3, "Hold X to move over Object/Railing" (I know you want this to show up in a patch). Heavies only have that option while not wielding a Heavy weapon (switch to sidearm). The time it takes for a person to move over the object/railing is dependent on the Dropsuit's speed.


New Breach AR/SMG stats:

• Breach AR Damage - 63.7 HP (STD), 66.8 HP (ADV), 70.1 HP (PRO)
• Breach AR RoF - 450
• High Kick for Breach AR
• Breach SMG RoF - 882.8
• Breach SMG clip size - 62
• Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG

New Grenade Stats:

• All Grenade types except Fused will have Max. Ammo of 2
• Grenades cannot be resupplied from Nanohives, this is to prevent spam and use it tactically.
• Fused Locus Grenade - 350 dmg, 2.5 splash radius, 9 CPU and 2 PG
• M2 Contact Locus Grenade - 400 dmg, 2.8 splash Radius, 18 CPU and 3 PG
• Thukker Contact Locus Grenade - 450 dmg, 3.0 splash radius, 48 CPU and 6 PG
[Changes to contact grenades must be made together with "No resupply" change.

New Dropsuit Profile/Scanning stats:

• Basic Light Frame/Scout - 20m scan radius
• Medium Frame/Assault - 15m scan radius
• Logistics - 17m scan radius
• Basic Heavy Frame/Sentinel - no changes
• Commando - 14m scan radius
• Precision Enhancement Skill - 3% Passive bonus
• Profile Dampening Skill - 3% Passive bonus
• Revert Range Amplifier to 5% bonus only if dropsuits get increased scan radius

New Tactical Sniper Rifle Stats:

• Increase Clip Size by 5
• RoF reduced to 78.4

New stats for Ammar Commando:

• Shield - 320 HP
• Armor - 320 HP
• Shield Recharge Rate - 17.0 HP/s
• CPU/PG would receive a slight increase
• Ammar Commando Bonus - 10% to efficacy of Shield/Armor Modules per level

Plasma Cannon Assault Variant:

• 30% Higher Direct damage than current PLC stats
• Same Splash Damage stats as the current PLC
• Base Splash Radius is 3.8
• Max. Ammo at 12

Plasma Cannon Normal Variant:

• 45% higher Direct damage than current PLC stats
• 15% higher Splash damage than the Assault Variant
• Base Splash Radius is still 3.5
• Charge time is 1 s

Plasma Cannon Breach Variant:

• 75% higher damage than current PLC stats (to be more AV oriented)
• Splash damage is the same as Normal Variant
• Splash radius is 1.8
• Charge time is 1.4 s

The operation skill for the PC weapon is to be replaced with 8% Splash Radius increase per level. I say 8% because I tested the damage received on different distances from the point of impact and I only received the full damage around 2 meters or less. The current operation skill is about as useless as the old Splash Radius increase for Swarm Launcher (5% reduction per level to charge time of 0.6s isn't helpful). This weapon in its current condition is not worth using.

Is this a new forum craze or something? Good ideas mixed with stupidity?

Is this a new forum craze or something? Good ideas mixed with stupidity?

no, that is simply alldin kan

You seem to know more than me about game mechanics and balancing, why don't you send a job app to CCP?

I've been in IT over 30 years and I've learned that development time is far from predictable. That's why development groups tend not to give dates to customers. I've been badgered for a "wild guess" as to when a particular feature might be ready. Once they get that (probably optimistic) date they cast it in concrete and tell everyone that is "The Date".

The only defense is use a vauge term like "SOON (TM)". I'd love to tell you my estimate, but you won't understand that it's contingent and may change. I can have fixed release dates, but then the content has to be flexible.

Sometimes new content just takes longer to develop than estimated. Estimates are very imprecise at the start of the process and get more precise as the job progresses.

Vehicle balance and 1.5 turns out to be a case where it's going to take longer than estimated.

If I have an understanding customer I'll give them my roadmap and current status to the plan. That gives them an idaa of the progress.

I would love it if CCP treated us as understanding customers. Some of us are, but then there are enough folks who don't understand the imprecise nature of estimating project timing and latch on to any estimate as a promise.

At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them.

So, when can I expect to get the changes mentioned below?

This first one is a must have: Let's say I'm using the DS3, "Hold X to move over Object/Railing" (I know you want this to show up in a patch). Heavies only have that option while not wielding a Heavy weapon (switch to sidearm). The time it takes for a person to move over the object/railing is dependent on the Dropsuit's speed.


New Breach AR/SMG stats:

• Breach AR Damage - 63.7 HP (STD), 66.8 HP (ADV), 70.1 HP (PRO)
• Breach AR RoF - 450
• High Kick for Breach AR
• Breach SMG RoF - 882.8
• Breach SMG clip size - 62
• Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG

New Grenade Stats:

• All Grenade types except Fused will have Max. Ammo of 2
• Grenades cannot be resupplied from Nanohives, this is to prevent spam and use it tactically.
• Fused Locus Grenade - 350 dmg, 2.5 splash radius, 9 CPU and 2 PG
• M2 Contact Locus Grenade - 400 dmg, 2.8 splash Radius, 18 CPU and 3 PG
• Thukker Contact Locus Grenade - 450 dmg, 3.0 splash radius, 48 CPU and 6 PG
[Changes to contact grenades must be made together with "No resupply" change.

New Dropsuit Profile/Scanning stats:

• Basic Light Frame/Scout - 20m scan radius
• Medium Frame/Assault - 15m scan radius
• Logistics - 17m scan radius
• Basic Heavy Frame/Sentinel - no changes
• Commando - 14m scan radius
• Precision Enhancement Skill - 3% Passive bonus
• Profile Dampening Skill - 3% Passive bonus
• Revert Range Amplifier to 5% bonus only if dropsuits get increased scan radius

New Tactical Sniper Rifle Stats:

• Increase Clip Size by 5
• RoF reduced to 78.4

New stats for Ammar Commando:

• Shield - 320 HP
• Armor - 320 HP
• Shield Recharge Rate - 17.0 HP/s
• CPU/PG would receive a slight increase
• Ammar Commando Bonus - 10% to efficacy of Shield/Armor Modules per level

Plasma Cannon Assault Variant:

• 30% Higher Direct damage than current PLC stats
• Same Splash Damage stats as the current PLC
• Base Splash Radius is 3.8
• Max. Ammo at 12

Plasma Cannon Normal Variant:

• 45% higher Direct damage than current PLC stats
• 15% higher Splash damage than the Assault Variant
• Base Splash Radius is still 3.5
• Charge time is 1 s

Plasma Cannon Breach Variant:

• 75% higher damage than current PLC stats (to be more AV oriented)
• Splash damage is the same as Normal Variant
• Splash radius is 1.8
• Charge time is 1.4 s

The operation skill for the PC weapon is to be replaced with 8% Splash Radius increase per level. I say 8% because I tested the damage received on different distances from the point of impact and I only received the full damage around 2 meters or less. The current operation skill is about as useless as the old Splash Radius increase for Swarm Launcher (5% reduction per level to charge time of 0.6s isn't helpful). This weapon in its current condition is not worth using.

So this means they are just delayed.

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I think that's a fair criticism. The lack of a testing environment for players to submit feedback has been one of the most outstanding issues from my perspective. I can't imagine trying to develop a game on the scale of DUST with a limited team and no test server for players to beta test upcoming changes. A lot of the major hiccups might have been caught earlier like the TAC-AR issues at the launch of Uprising, or the shotgun hit detection bug in 1.4. I also think CCP is improving it's approach and getting the community involved earlier in the process (as evidenced by this thread). Yes it can be more painful, and you're going to have to deal with more whining on the forums, but the released content will be much better.

Some of us have been here since the beginning. So dont talk to us like someone that not understand things.

Entitled much? **** off ****!

How to balance Dust 514:

Put an army of me in a test server and I'll point out the flaws.

Quite like these ideas and they don't seem op either.

I'll take this as progress in CCP Shanghai learning not to release broken stuff.

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So this means they are just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)

Of course why didn't we think of that lets take some random nitwit from the forums, put in a "test" server and watch the magic, I mean its not like the devs have qualifications in game design or anything!!

changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

Not in 1.5. We're aiming for 1.6, but that's not going to be confirmed till we get closer to it's release date.

the problem with that is: who would be invited to the test server? ...

Hey guys

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

I'm sure you're wondering why. At this stage, we didn't feel happy with how they were and instead of putting them out half way we decided to put some more time into working on them. So this means they are just delayed.

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

We still have some new stuff coming in 1.5 such as Squad Finder, Corp Roles, New WP rewards and the first set of new tutorials.

I would ask that you keep all discussion of this to this thread, and I will be locking and directing any other threads on this matter to this thread.

Thanks for your patience and understanding guys. We're looking forward to your feedback.

(And if you're wondering where the vehicle feedback thread went to, it's been moved to Feedback/Requests to make room on GD front page.)