.... So all we have to look forword to is a blance patch. ..

NOMNOMNOM! Thanks!

It's only easy to predict if there's an established pattern.

I am General John Ripper and this thread is now officially approved by me.

I stop caring what was put into the patch notes on the forums.

The community is still just going to pick it to bits, and then whine with dozens of threads that the thing they wanted wasn't put in.

Between that, and a overly cynical community when it comes to updates, to avoid pre-release whining, CCP probably could just hold the notes until release. However, out if kindness, the probably are going to release the notes anyway, and I get to watch a show.

*grabs popcorn*

:words: and I think aside the occasional bit of hyperbole and bad math - our input can be very good. If this delay is an open invitation to actually have us aid in the balancing/stats of these weapons and vehicles; that's a good thing. I just hope that's actually the case.

I think a lot of us had reservations about the vehicle changes that were incoming (how many threads about that were there?), and I guess many of us were pondering the wisdom of seemingly changing AV or Vehicles and balancing the two separately while having proto AV but the standard vehicles.

There's also something to be said about how you balance weapons when a set of them are still missing. I guess that's an eternal conflict: balancing while adding new stuff. We all want the missing suits, vehicles, weapons, etc., but we also want things to be balanced as-is.

I think in the past the community hasn't always been heeded with respect to practical advice. The initial armor plate stats for ferroscale/reactive are a good example. I don't know that they're particularly great now either. When stats are adjusted across the board on armor, you also wonder if the ramifications of those changes needed to be addressed in other areas. Then there's useful changes to the game which have nothing to do with balance or new items.

Really, we want everything, and we want it yesterday.

As ornery a community as we can be, we put in a lot of hours playing the game, and I think aside the occasional bit of hyperbole and bad math - our input can be very good. If this delay is an open invitation to actually have us aid in the balancing/stats of these weapons and vehicles; that's a good thing. I just hope that's actually the case.

If, by established pattern, you mean your own cynically cherry picked chain of events that ignore all of the things that were improved, then yes. That is very easy to predict.

I believe what you're referring to was Foxfour saying he was writing a dev blog this week. It's not finished yet, but it's getting closer.

So as was posted by CCP Saberwing, a couple of things have been pushed back that were originally going to be in Uprising 1.5. The two big ones are the vehicle changes and the new weapons.

isnt 1.5 all about those two topics, what will 1.5 include then?

I am Heathen Bastard and I don't give one flaming ****.

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

I wonder if corp roles will be fully customizable and what permissions will be available.

I would like a special role called "That one taco guy who approves things"

this is great :)

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials
this is great :)

Squad Finder
Corp Roles (your CEO in particular will be happy)
New/More WP rewards
First set of better tutorials

Ug ok the patch will improve things but we really need a new gamemode

No individual ADS sensitivity sliders ?

Tada ain't just no more lone wolfing cause I can't find a squad!!
Logibro will the squad finder include the ability to choose mic or non-mic only squads?

Agreed, corp roles and wp rewards are exciting to me. I'm hoping this means the bonus to active scanning!

Heathen, I also agree with you on them needing to figure out vehicles. See how easy that was, though? You went from proclaiming doom and destruction to actually voicing an opinion about a specific thing you dislike. Try starting off with that and less hyperbole and we'll all be better off for it.