Amen.

I stop caring what was put into the patch notes on the forums.

The community is still just going to pick it to bits, and then whine with dozens of threads that the thing they wanted wasn't put in.

Between that, and a overly cynical community when it comes to updates, to avoid pre-release whining, CCP probably could just hold the notes until release. However, out if kindness, the probably are going to release the notes anyway, and I get to watch a show.

*grabs popcorn*

I think a lot of us had reservations about the vehicle changes that were incoming (how many threads about that were there?), and I guess many of us were pondering the wisdom of seemingly changing AV or Vehicles and balancing the two separately while having proto AV but the standard vehicles.

There's also something to be said about how you balance weapons when a set of them are still missing. I guess that's an eternal conflict: balancing while adding new stuff. We all want the missing suits, vehicles, weapons, etc., but we also want things to be balanced as-is.

I think in the past the community hasn't always been heeded with respect to practical advice. The initial armor plate stats for ferroscale/reactive are a good example. I don't know that they're particularly great now either. When stats are adjusted across the board on armor, you also wonder if the ramifications of those changes needed to be addressed in other areas. Then there's useful changes to the game which have nothing to do with balance or new items.

Really, we want everything, and we want it yesterday.

As ornery a community as we can be, we put in a lot of hours playing the game, and I think aside the occasional bit of hyperbole and bad math - our input can be very good. If this delay is an open invitation to actually have us aid in the balancing/stats of these weapons and vehicles; that's a good thing. I just hope that's actually the case.

this is great :)

Ug ok the patch will improve things but we really need a new gamemode

this feature would make squad finder perfect! <3

CCP ..you guys are so full of ****... looks like u wont be happy until every last die hard player leaves n starts playing better games that don't involve us waiting months to be fix .. get your ******* heads out of your ass n handle business
you lose players with each patch... wtf is wrong with u?
don't just ban me or hide my post... man up .. and answer the question... what the **** is wrong with yous?

read my name and guess wat is mean

why do you want to change AR ranges?? F...K

You seem to know more than me about game mechanics and balancing, why don't you send a job app to CCP?

How to balance Dust 514:

Put an army of me in a test server and I'll point out the flaws.