Release vehicle patch in 1.5 so we can give feedback for 1.6.

-XOXO

Ah ... no.

Please do not request Devs to release a broken patch intentionally. Broken patches or patches with broken features are all to prevalent in the software/video game industries. No sense in asking for it to happen.

XOXO, recall that they said it wasn't good (essentially). As in not worthy of a release and thus is broken in some fashion. Most likely game play breaking, tanks are too paper, modules are too powerful, something is definitely too something or not enough. 1.5 needs to be considered functional, at least in the viewpoint of the Devs and QA, before it is released.

Patience.

Yes, I'm a little disappointed as well with seeing two major areas (vehicle changes and new weapons) being pushed back to 1.6. I could understand that you'd need to push one or the other back (to perfect the other), but pushing both back is disappointing. However, I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what you guys are actually bringing to the table in 1.5 before posting how I feel about the changes. Baseline, though, it's VERY disheartening to know that new weapons are off the table for 1.5, since it would have been nice to have all racial rifles/play styles reflected finally.

I do have to hand it to you, though, CCP, you guys are damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you had released the vehicle balancing/new weapons in 1.5, but they'd have been incomplete, then you'd have been crucified for releasing buggy/unbalanced/unfinished changes, and yet if you pull them to make them better for release, you get crucified anyway. I feel for you guys that you're in a no-win scenario.

To address some of the posters here, though: you guys don't think CCP is raving mad to get new features/suits/weapons out?? Of course they do. They know much more of the vision than we do. They know where art assets are at, vfx, balancing, implementation, QC, etc. are. Believe me (as a developer myself) that they want to do whatever is necessary to get these out, and I'm sure it was a tough decision to pull these most-desired features. But, if the NPE is improved with tutorials, and that in turn helps newberries sticking around, then it's probably a win-win for us all: getting new players to play the game only expands the player base, grows the game, and improves its health. That's great for the game and all of us, because then CCP can build/add-in new things for bittervets (do we have those so soon?) and newbs alike can have fun with new kit occasionally. Plus, CCP is pushing updates every month or so. It's not like the new weapons/vehicle changes are pushed back for a 6-month expansion window, and if CCP is giving us the opportunity to look at the changes (and comment) beforehand, then I think that's probably an acceptable compromise.

So, If vehicle changes and weapons are NOT going to be in 1.5 - what is?

All I can see is PC/Corp Roles, surely that cant' be it? - no-one cares about Corp roles, well maybe CEO's do.. a little.. but no-one else..

I suppose we have to wait and see but I always get nervous towards the end of the month when there is such little information on what to expect.

Where are those patch notes for 1.5 ??????????

Like I said in the OP, next week.

spkr said it himself. Some of us dont even want to be speced into tanks anymore because of how raped they have been for the past 5 months

However, there is some good news. What this also means is that we'll be posting what we have so far on the forums starting next week for you guys to give feedback before any of this stuff hits Tranquility. This will allow you to give us your take on what's coming soon to a marketplace near you. This will include both the vehicle changes, changed rifle ranges and the new weapon stats.

This.

And it makes me add a possibility for the delay. Ponder the following fellow Tankers:

The changes are so dramatic that it will Require a Skill SP Refund. That would probably make CCP/Shanghai gag. Then, when the modified Skills and Vehicle capabilities are looked at many, like myself, will no longer skill into Tanks, or any vehicles whatsoever.

Personally, freeing up the 8M+ SP from Vehicles and Turrets will let me spend my 140+M ISK on Proto gear more often than not. It would significantly improve my lethality as well my level of fun. Something that has been lacking in Uprising since 1.0 and is the very reason that Boosters are a thing of the past for me. Hopefully they will buy back my useless Vehicles, Modules and Turrets as well.

Hell, it might even be worth spending some SP to Find My Freaking Squad as they have stolen that ability just to force more SP sinks down our throats. CCP/Shanghai, rewriting lore to make more Sinks!

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Like you said, you simply could not get it to be balanced enough to be acceptable for release. That's a FAIL. Sorry. Try again

my tanks can't keep getting destroyed.
atleast hotfix tank hp and repper/nerf av(forge guns included)/buff hp in 1.5/give more pg

Hot fixing tank HP is not a grand idea, frankly. Game Balance is a difficult problem with many entangled elements.

I lose tanks when I get them physically stuck (new map or a structure I have yet to drive through), get surprised by two Proto AV Reds attacking at the same time or just get too adamant on chasing down one particular Red that ticked me off.

Why are you losing tanks? What tanks are you running? How are they equipped? What are you doing?

If you are running Sica and Soma variants, you will die.

If you are running Shield tanks, good luck. I pop them all the time, in tanks and out. Regardless of their level.

If you are not running hardeners and

Wait a minute... call of duty adds guns every 6 months? I thought it was about every year, and most of the time most of those guns are m16 knockoffs. Battlefield adds new guns about every 2 years.

The ONLY thing i want to comment on that is that Battlefield also has what no other game (that ive found) has. A destructable enviroment. if CCP could find a way to add that to dust... (without a massive increase to lag (maybe the PS4 can handle that??)) well i think dust would then stand out as a true legendary game. but as it stand right now every game seems to have that ONE unique thing that keeps its players. BF series has destructable enviroment, Dust has interconectivity to eve (and lag to the point I can no longer play it untill they fix it) and COD well it has whinny kids. as for other games i dunno. But theres something about every game that keeps players entrapped, and i think they have to capitalize on what they got. thats your selling feature, flesh it out a bit (and fix the lag so i can play again), make it more robust, (get your suits and weapons in) and then worry about the fancy stuff.

Also what kind of tutorial is this going to be? a play through style or a "oh here read this owners manual on how to fit your suit". (if it was said i skipped here from a earlier page to quote)

Night

Hello to all my name is Mehrunes Rebellion and have an idea that you all might like and it's just two words. Deployable. Cover.
It can be fitted into any of your equipment slots(provided you have a suit that has a equipment slot) and deployed like any other deployable items (i.e. nanohives,uplinks, proximity bombs, etc, etc,) except instead of a swarm of nanites giving you ammo it will be a wall of hardened nanites protecting you from damage once deployed u cannot move it and if you get killed the shield will still remain active till its destroyed or u lay down another one(enemy units will be able to use it) deployable cover will be very useful for the assaults and logi who are the running across no mans land and in those tight corridors where no cover is to be found, deployable cover is not indestructible however nor is it perfect. Deployable cover(or Nanite Shielding) will be destroyed if it takes to much damage this varies depending on the tier Standards can take up to 250 points of damage, Advanced Tier can take up to 500 points in damage, and Prototype protects up to 1000 points of damage and you can skill into it to give it an extra 500 points of damage. It can also come with a shield that offers a wider range of protection but takes less damage to destroy. Deployment time is another issue once deployed it will take 1.5 seconds for shielding to form once formed you will be good to go.

Do you hear that, its the band playing as the Titanic sinks into the void. Silly tanker you thought you were special, have you not learned anything from the heavies and scouts. Like scouts and heavies you are not 1st on the list, if you had an A or R in your name you might have been.

Man you guys at ccp. . . here i was thinking that i just had to wait a few more days, so that i could contribute something to my corp and you guys once again,

ugh i am no longer going to buy any active or passive boosters, and or aurum till you guys get the core mechanics (balance) right in this game, and i think if we all did this it would make you guys think twice before making promises you cant keep. SOON TM will not work any longer and i feel that this is coming soonTM.

I cant believe i am saying this, but if you guys keep adding, modifying, or down right not adding things you promised then you should give everyone a respec every-time you "update" this game, because even though i have always speced into dropships, i am getting tired of (getting the rug pulled out from under me). Eg "look at the fighter" or "we will fix vehicles in 1.5" or making things people speced into worthless.


And for goodness sake fix the issues you have now before adding anymore; that way you don't have to fix them in the future.

I like it, though I think they should be able to withstand more damage, especially at the standard tier. A blueberry with a standard assault rifle can deal over a thousand damage per clip, so this deployable cover should be able to take a beating. I think AT LEAST 500 hp at the standard level. But other than that, I think it's a great idea that would add another little bit of tactics into the game. I just wouldn't expect it anytime soon.