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Quik Django
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.13 08:35:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Do you guys know if arum is transferable? I wanna get kincaats to 5 and PD to 5 and electronics to 4, and need ~2 mil SP for it. However, i could only afford the 4k arum pack, and need 1k more arum, so if it is, ill trade 5 mil isk for 1k arum No, aurum is not transferable.between characters.
Haerr wrote:@Everyone
Momentarily lost interest in dust when they announced that only drop suit command is being refunded. So I didn't even notice that they've changed the scouts scan precision to 40. If anyone asks wether or not it is worth checking out dust 1.8 I'll tell them: No. If you don't like it now, 1.8 won't do anything for you. Suits and guns don't change a game. Gameplay changes a game. Game modes change a game. Until we get more of that stuff, Dust514 is still the same old game it used to be. People don't generally leave Dust514 because there aren't enough weapons or suits or whatever; people leave because it's boring and there are not enough interesting and varying things to do.
Django Quik's alt if you hadn't figured that one out!
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
319
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Posted - 2014.03.13 08:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Yan Darn wrote:This isn't a whine as such...but refund on dropsuit command only is the worst possible result for me personally.
I only have gal scout 5 in DS command.
My only 'wasted' points are about 1-2mil in plasma rifles (and maybe SMGs as I'm a ScP convert now) - the points in PR are there because that was the only rifle for like, forever (the same premise the DS refund was based on?).
The 'worst' thing though is all the people who will be respeccing into gal scouts (if anyone believes another scout will be more popular - I'd genuinely like to hear why).
That being said - cant wait for 1.8, now I just have to try and rearrange my leave for that week instead of March 18th week... I personally think that none of the scouts are by far the "Best" of the scouts. Gal and Min are pretty good, but the Cal and Amarr scouts have their own flavors as well. As for me? I got speed, stealth, hacking, and assassination out the wazzo in my Min Scout. I wouldn't even dream of going Gal Scout. Just not my thing. I'm to aggressive.
Ah, don't get me wrong, apart from maybe the Amarr scout (not had the chance to fully digest update scout changes yet) - each scout is good in its own way. Especially with new changes, cal and min are very tempting to me.
Im thinking from the perspective of FoTM chasers/logi slayers (who realise they better spec out of logi before med frame slot/grid changes).
Lows to stack armour and innate regen as well as radar and dampening perks (I'm 15mil and only ever played scout - but I imagine seeing "you have been scanned" for the trillionth time can get irritating) - for those that don't spec into either heavy frame role, Gal scout l imagine looks very appealing compared to the others.
Of course, these 'pretenders' will hopefully get mowed down trying to play a scout, QQ over 'misspent' SP and the greater general community will go back to thinking scouts are 'niche' and over-specialised compared to what else is available and the nerf hammer casts its evil eye elsewhere...
The Ghost of Bravo
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
787
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Posted - 2014.03.13 09:39:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:@ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives.
Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility.
As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund.
I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates.
Arrgh I just don't know!
Yeah, i'm currently Minmatar Scout as well. I can't decide what suit to spec into either. Its between staying Minmatar for dat' hacking bonus or Gal or Cal. I'm leaning more towards either staying Minmatar or going Caldari though as I only have 1 level put into plates and repair modules(base armor skill is maxed though). I have seen some people mention that Caldari isn't going to have enough SP to support a decent fitting though? Not sure what is up with that. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5048
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:02:00 -
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OH man someone just pointed out gold: the back of the Amarr scout's helmet looks like a manrod!
Seeing is believing
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5048
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:06:00 -
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Also the more I look at them the more the Cal and Matari scout's armor remind me of each other.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2394
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:18:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:OH man someone just pointed out gold: the back of the Amarr scout's helmet looks like a manrod! Seeing is believing Surprised by this? Whenever i see the medium frames i think
Quote: It's a good thing someone circumcises those things or you would never see the helmet
Amarr believe everyone else follows false gods but they follow a phallus god
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5053
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:03:00 -
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Because It's true
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
688
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:17:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Matticus Monk wrote: We'll miss you, Iggy. I hope that they change their mind and respec more than just dropsuit command skills. The new changes to weapon proficiency are pretty lame in my book....
Wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting for full release of racial weapons before they do the resepc. I've noticed alot of people complaining in general about wanting to spec out of heavies but being forced to keep their heavy weapon. I expect once the additional weapons are released they'll get the chance to change over. No point doing it now.
If its not happening now, it never will. This new patch changes so many things. It touches every single skill in the infantry skill tree and they don't have the decency to provide a respec like they did for the vehicle users.
To be fair, Its not really going to "affect" me. Which I think is the reasoning behind partial respec, people can "live with it" even though its not ideal. I bet the majority of dust players will see less than 3mil sp given back them and most likely won't even be able to use their intended role for months. Remember to even get a single proto suit it requires ~3mil SP to invest.
IF there is a decent showing this weekend it could help people out. But I am pretty sure the community will have a hard time reaching even 500k kills lets alone 1 mil. It also pretty much requires you to buy an omega booster. But I can pretty much guarantee that a lot of individuals will play 10 games of spambush on all their alts and just be done.
They really need to take a page out of warframe, which is what I have been play on PC a lot now. It has a little bit of an initial grind, but once you start playing its pretty difficult to put it down. Constant events, many in every hour and the rewards are worth it. I haven't spent a dime on WF, but I can see myself doing it when there is a change to get a 80% off coupon for logging in every day.
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
344
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:31:00 -
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Exporting and uploading new tables to google docs...
Edit: The table for 1.8 has been updated. Still uses the old LINK.
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
692
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:01:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Exporting and uploading new tables to google docs... Edit: The table for 1.8 has been updated. Still uses the old LINK. Edit2: What if cloaking devices and profile dampeners have stacking penalties when added together? I've uploaded a table with that just in case! LINK
What happens with ties? Looking at the cal scout vs gal scout and there plenty of cases when the dB is tied. Who wins? Based on the graphic the scanned person wins.
I am wondering if that is going to change during 1.8 (scanner wins). The math looks too "convenient" otherwise.
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Haerr
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
345
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:13:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Haerr wrote:Exporting and uploading new tables to google docs... Edit: The table for 1.8 has been updated. Still uses the old LINK. Edit2: What if cloaking devices and profile dampeners have stacking penalties when added together? I've uploaded a table with that just in case! LINK What happens with ties? Looking at the cal scout vs gal scout and there plenty of cases when the dB is tied. Who wins? Based on the graphic the scanned person wins. I am wondering if that is going to change during 1.8 (scanner wins). The math looks too "convenient" otherwise.
Hmm...
It there is an exact match (36.00 vs 36.00) I don't know, haven't tried that. As for the close to 18 dB case (17.85 vs 17.72) the gallente should win. There is no risk of the stacking order bug mucking up that one since there is only one / or complex module(s) used.
Edit: I think there might have been a few cases of exact matches higher up in the table but since I assumed that the profile had to be lower than the precision there would have been a dampener put in on those cases.
Edit2: If anyone runs a test of 2 assault players with matching profile dampening and precision enhancement skills let me know if the results are different.
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
TCD ToXiCaTeD RISE of LEGION
1639
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:57:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: No grenade? Even with grenades going from 3 to 2 I don't like I could live without my fluxes i don't ever use grenades nowadays anyway, so I don't think i'll need them.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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noob cavman
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
782
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:01:00 -
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Day off tomorrow means I get to play tonight.... I wanna play a game. it involves a emotionally and mentally broken brit and your soft inner bits
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
693
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:53:00 -
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PS....an ode to the old knife....how I miss the. Some of you may have already seen this, but if not...its how the knife used to work. IT was ahhhmazeballs and actually worked :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN5enAXejfk
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1451
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:02:00 -
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Any word on vehicle rebalance?
(Activated Omega Booster. Resisting urge to turn off game.) |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
693
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:10:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Any word on vehicle rebalance?
(Activated Omega Booster. Resisting urge to turn off game.)
Ditto Ill be activating mine tonight as well. Ill play tomorrow or likely Saturday to get those ten games in tho. Won't have my mic as I will be out of town....what we do for extra sp
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2372
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:21:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Haerr from I understand all that stuff rounds up anyway. So even if you have 17.01 your dB is still 18. PS....an ode to the old knife....how I miss the. Some of you may have already seen this, but if not...its how the knife used to work. IT was ahhhmazeballs and actually worked :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN5enAXejfkPRO tip: turn your sensitivity way up when knifing, screws up your gun game but makes knifing 100% easier. Awesome video!
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
899
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:18:00 -
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I've made my decision. I'm taking any SP I get back and putting them into Gal Spook and reinvesting the rest into scout-related skills, then working up to a second suit, which will likely be a heavy. Either Gal or Minnie.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1036
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:54:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Also I know scout is going to be the FOTM and I just won't be able to take that.
Dont just feel bad about it.. DO something about it!
Put together a caldari scout hunter, and give them a New Eden Welcome
Heck, make a new alt that is passive-SP enabled, and we can put together a new corp:
"New Scout Welcoming Committee"
I actually have an alt for just this purpose: "Caldari Scout Hunter"
I think he's collected 1m SP so far. Should be a good start to try it out.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
8
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:56:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Also I know scout is going to be the FOTM and I just won't be able to take that. Dont just feel bad about it.. DO something about it! Put together a caldari scout hunter, and give them a New Eden Welcome Heck, make a new alt that is passive-SP enabled, and we can put together a new corp: "New Scout Welcoming Committee" I actually have an alt for just this purpose: "Caldari Scout Hunter" I think he's collected 1m SP so far. Should be a good start to try it out. New Scout Welcoming CommitteeGǪ..I like it, i like it a lot
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
695
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:04:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Also I know scout is going to be the FOTM and I just won't be able to take that. Dont just feel bad about it.. DO something about it! Put together a caldari scout hunter, and give them a New Eden Welcome Heck, make a new alt that is passive-SP enabled, and we can put together a new corp: "New Scout Welcoming Committee" I actually have an alt for just this purpose: "Caldari Scout Hunter" I think he's collected 1m SP so far. Should be a good start to try it out.
I think the FOTM crowd will likely go Cal scout, so I think the best antiscout tool we have is the Gal, as they wont see you coming. They are also less likely to run damps, which means only a single precision mod will find them.
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mollerz
2758
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:34:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Any word on vehicle rebalance?
(Activated Omega Booster. Resisting urge to turn off game.)
Wouldn't it have been better to activate it tomorrow?
Or did I miss something?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1037
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:24:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:
I think the FOTM crowd will likely go Cal scout,
I greatly doubt that, for the following reasons:
1. if you havent played scout, you're going to be playing it like medium frame.
2. every medium frame knows Armor >Shields
3. Caldari scouts are the worst for using armor. (wel, i guess minmatar is pretty similar, so scratch them too...)
So I figure they'll use either gallente or armar(edit: heh.. funny typo), to stack armor on. Or, if they're speed freaks, they'll go to minmatar for a while.
For FOTM people, I'd bet Caldari is least popular scout. |
Appia Vibbia
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1436
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:33:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Any word on vehicle rebalance?
(Activated Omega Booster. Resisting urge to turn off game.) Wouldn't it have been better to activate it tomorrow? Or did I miss something? Saberwing suggested that you should activate the 3 day booster today, or just before down time at 11:00UTC tomorrow
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
AKA Nappia AKA Mathppia
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2395
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:43:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:OH man someone just pointed out gold: the back of the Amarr scout's helmet looks like a manrod! Seeing is believing Surprised by this? Whenever i see the medium frames i think Quote: It's a good thing someone circumcises those things or you would never see the helmet Amarr believe everyone else follows false gods but they follow a phallus god I didn't know what you meant by "manrod." Then Llast used the word "circumcises" and it all made sense. Still don't see it though. Then again, I never taken the time to study what one looks like >_> See no interest in OPness
Sorry I could not resistGǪ Okay I am not sorry
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Vibbia
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1438
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:43:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:
I think the FOTM crowd will likely go Cal scout,
I greatly doubt that, for the following reasons: 1. if you havent played scout, you're going to be playing it like medium frame. 2. every medium frame knows Armor >Shields 3. Caldari scouts are the worst for using armor. (wel, i guess minmatar is pretty similar, so scratch them too...) So I figure they'll use either gallente or armar(edit: heh.. funny typo), to stack armor on. Or, if they're speed freaks, they'll go to minmatar for a while. For FOTM people, I'd bet Caldari is least popular scout.
There are going to be so, so very many, delicious tears from people specializing in Scouts. They'll find out the huge SP requirements within the Electronics skill tree, the squishiness of the suits, and the need for Core Upgrades, Electronics, and Engineering just to fit adv fits. Though anyone who grinds to get those skills will learn what a huge difference each single level makes.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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Appia Vibbia
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1438
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:45:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:OH man someone just pointed out gold: the back of the Amarr scout's helmet looks like a manrod! Seeing is believing Surprised by this? Whenever i see the medium frames i think Quote: It's a good thing someone circumcises those things or you would never see the helmet Amarr believe everyone else follows false gods but they follow a phallus god I didn't know what you meant by "manrod." Then Llast used the word "circumcises" and it all made sense. Still don't see it though. Then again, I never taken the time to study what one looks like >_> See no interest in OPness Sorry I could not resistGǪ Okay I am not sorry
I read "OP" as "over powered", not the abbreviated 2 letters. It took me a bit to get that
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
525
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:14:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:mollerz wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Any word on vehicle rebalance?
(Activated Omega Booster. Resisting urge to turn off game.) Wouldn't it have been better to activate it tomorrow? Or did I miss something? Saberwing suggested that you should activate the 3 day booster today, or just before down time at 11:00UTC tomorrow
He needs to update that on his OP for the mini event then, because it suggests activating it after downtime on the 14th.
I am so confused.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1455
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:37:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
I am so confused.
My understanding is that the event will weigh whichever Booster is active at the start of the event. |
mollerz
2765
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:54:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
I am so confused.
My understanding is that the event will weigh whichever Booster is active at the start of the event.
So the best course of action would be to activate it somewhat close to down time tonight- before the 13th rolls into the 14th.
Also, since they are taking the rewards into context of the booster you have activated and we manage to nail the 1 mil goal mark- anyone with an Omega booster, and 10 matches under their belt will receive 2 mil SP. Correct?
If they roll with upping it to 2 mil SP, and we manage to nail that- does that mean omega booster mercs will get 4 mil SP?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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