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Asha Starwind wrote:

Llast 326 wrote:

Asha Starwind wrote:

Varoth Drac wrote:

@ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives.

Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility.

As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund.

I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates.

Arrgh I just don't know!

That's the same conclusion I've come to, that and the Cal Scout is a PITA to fit feels like CCP shorted it 6-8ish pg, other than that scan precision an adv gal scout can rival a pro cal scoul in all areas, still playing around with the amarr scout don't really know what I think of it.

The Cal Scout is damn close to the Min scout in fitting efficiencyGÇª

I meant to say that about the min scout, changed it to what I think about the Cal scout

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Appia Nappia Nos Nothi 340	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:03:00 - [11131] - Quote Spademan wrote: Well I'm definitely going to take SP out of the Minnie Logi, but I don't know about the Sp in Minnie assault, I think I want a reserve suit. Here is what I've been thinking to do: Put them back in Minnie Assault. Take out and put them in Galsault. Take out and put into a Commando, maybe Gal or Minnie. Take out and reinvest into Scout skills. What d'ya think? Don't go Gal-Assault. Don't do it (Spade)man, don't do it! Just use Gal-Scout as a dampened Assault without that 3rd high slot. And until the Logistics suits have a change in slot layouts and fittings, which won't be until at least 1.9 at the earliest and who knows when that'll come out, Gal-Logi is superior to the Gal-Assault so long as you max out rapid reload with whatever weapon you're using. Min-Assault bonus won't effect Mass Driver, which would have made it a great suit with a weapon that is going to get spamed a lot, again. and that 5H2L is just kinda bad. If you want an assault suit, Caldari and Amarr FTW. Min Scout (with 3rd low slot and second EQ back!) hells yeah. Min logi for the ultimate logibro experience, definitely. Min Heavy? sounds fun but not enough experience to say. Min Commando? Seems like fun, I have no clue how it will preform. I do know that CR will be the most powerful in the Range vs DPS tree that should exist it is not on the linear graph, Min Commando may be the most powerful. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 896	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:18:00 - [11132] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Min-Assault bonus won't effect Mass Driver, which would have made it a great suit with a weapon that is going to get spamed a lot, again. and that 5H2L is just kinda bad. If you want an assault suit, Caldari and Amarr FTW. Min Scout (with 3rd low slot and second EQ back!) hells yeah. Min logi for the ultimate logibro experience, definitely. Min Heavy? sounds fun but not enough experience to say. Min Commando? Seems like fun, I have no clue how it will preform. I do know that CR will be the most powerful in the Range vs DPS tree that should exist it is not on the linear graph, Min Commando may be the most powerful. Well I'm definitely sticking with Gallente Scout, that's for certain, and I don't think the other scouts really appeal to me. Logi's are a no, I've tried them before in Chromosome and since then with the Minnie Logi, not my style. I've always been an extreme's kind of player in games, so either the weak, stealthy(Or quick) character or the tough, slow character tend to appeal to me. And it isn't like I'll be going into heavy's completely clueless, I've tried those too in chromosome and have kept militia fits ver since that I hop into once in a while. So yeah, at the moment I'm being pushed more and more away from the mediums. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 604	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:23:00 - [11133] - Quote noob cavman wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: SCOUT CLOAK FTW!!! like if you agree. THIS IS NOT FACEBOOK TAKE YOUR LIKE IF YOU AGREE AND SHOVE IT UP THY ARSE. YOU CRAZY MOTHER TRUCKER YOU. yes cap was necessary as rage filled my veins with the need to shout and punch a chav. Remember everyone, like and fav. XD lools XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
noob cavman The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 775	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:35:00 - [11134] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: noob cavman wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: SCOUT CLOAK FTW!!! like if you agree. THIS IS NOT FACEBOOK TAKE YOUR LIKE IF YOU AGREE AND SHOVE IT UP THY ARSE. YOU CRAZY MOTHER TRUCKER YOU. yes cap was necessary as rage filled my veins with the need to shout and punch a chav. Remember everyone, like and fav. XD lools Work needs to stop so I can play again. 4 days and ive only played two matches ffs I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 685	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:48:00 - [11135] - Quote Wow. 60 stam recharge over 225 stam on the Mini. 3.75 sec full recharge. That's awesome! Not so sure about the change to scan precision. I like the idea of being as good as an active scanner passively with level 5 precision enhancement, but I'm concerned that the level of visibility on the Cal scout will be abused by proto stompers. Meh, time will tell. And just on a side note, confirming the dropsuit command tree respec doesn't necessarily rule out a weapons respec. The language they've used is not definitive. Though admittedly that may just be CCP learning how to communicate again... Knowledge is power
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 685	Posted - 2014.03.12 22:51:00 - [11136] - Quote And just to double post like the cool kids.... Would be curious to know if their new monetization guy was involved in the million clones event. This is the first time I've spent money on the game since they took BPOs off the market, picking up a 3 day omega booster for my main and alt. Knowledge is power
mollerz 2755	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:16:00 - [11137] - Quote That is all. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:19:00 - [11138] - Quote So i'm getting Minmatar scout as of now. Silent you must be Or die you will From True scout a kind message
King of Ghosts Nos Nothi 307	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:20:00 - [11139] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: So i'm getting Minmatar scout as of now. \o/ I am most definitely, maybe, probably, possibly, PERHAPS, Ghost Kaisar. Nos Nothi Moderator: Call me if you need me.
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1441	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:32:00 - [11140] - Quote This event is going to be awesome. The first and only question that came to my mind was answered here. @ Mollerz Glad to see you're still with us. @ Cavman @ Haerr / Drift Looks like your feedback on profile v. precision hit pay dirt. Good stuff, gents :-) @ Yan The GalScout is solid, but its by no means leaps-and-bounds beyond the others. IMHO, Minmatar is slightly more appealing; there's an inexplicable, addictive component to hunting with knives.

I do SUCK RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 58	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:36:00 - [11141] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: SCOUT CLOAK FTW!!! like if you agree. Welcome to the scout side wanna be Scouts May we forever live in infamy And find our way into the darkness no matter how difficult the road -Matticus monk
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4496	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:51:00 - [11142] - Quote Looks like I'll only be wearing one suit in 1.8.. Maybe.. I'll be getting back my 2.2 mill sp from my assault and some more from my 3 points in sentinel, and 1 point in gal and amarr logi. Plus 2 million from an omega during million clone challenge(hopefully we pull it off) Those potential 4 million are going to go into maxing out profile dampening, precision enhancement, and range. As well as pg to 5. Then 1 point into cloak. whatever I have left, I'll put into fitting optimization or something. I don't think I'll get proficiency for any weapon... I mean it seems kinda pointless especially if I'm just going to use shotgun or scrambler most of the time anyway. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 477	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:53:00 - [11143] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: @ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives. Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility. As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund. I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates. Arrgh I just don't know! That's the same conclusion I've come to, that and the Cal Scout is a PITA to fit feels like CCP shorted it 6-8ish pg, other than that scan precision an adv gal scout can rival a pro cal scoul in all areas, still playing around with the amarr scout don't really know what I think of it. 32db Mad Bomber.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2383	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:04:00 - [11144] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: @ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives. Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility. As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund. I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates. Arrgh I just don't know! That's the same conclusion I've come to, that and the Cal Scout is a PITA to fit feels like CCP shorted it 6-8ish pg, other than that scan precision an adv gal scout can rival a pro cal scoul in all areas, still playing around with the amarr scout don't really know what I think of it. The Cal Scout is damn close to the Min scout in fitting efficiencyGÇª KRRROOOOOOM
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 478	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:20:00 - [11145] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: @ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives. Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility. As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund. I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates. Arrgh I just don't know! That's the same conclusion I've come to, that and the Cal Scout is a PITA to fit feels like CCP shorted it 6-8ish pg, other than that scan precision an adv gal scout can rival a pro cal scoul in all areas, still playing around with the amarr scout don't really know what I think of it. The Cal Scout is damn close to the Min scout in fitting efficiencyGÇª I meant to say that about the min scout, changed it to what I think about the Cal scout 32db Mad Bomber.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 3	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:43:00 - [11146] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: @ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives. Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility. As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund. I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates. Arrgh I just don't know! That's the same conclusion I've come to, that and the Cal Scout is a PITA to fit feels like CCP shorted it 6-8ish pg, other than that scan precision an adv gal scout can rival a pro cal scoul in all areas, still playing around with the amarr scout don't really know what I think of it. The Cal Scout is damn close to the Min scout in fitting efficiencyGÇª I meant to say that about the min scout, changed it to what I think about the Cal scout i just don't get how the min scout has less PG than the cal scoutGÇª.but whatever. no proto knives for poor little Gavr1lo Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
I do SUCK RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 58	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:44:00 - [11147] - Quote My 1.8 build http://www.protofits.com/fittings Scouts May we forever live in infamy And find our way into the darkness no matter how difficult the road -Matticus monk
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 687	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:52:00 - [11148] - Quote I do SUCK wrote: My 1.8 build http://www.protofits.com/fittings Did you share your fittings, or are you going naked? Knowledge is power
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2384	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:56:00 - [11149] - Quote Brokerib wrote: I do SUCK wrote: My 1.8 build http://www.protofits.com/fittings Did you share your fittings, or are you going naked? I Minja Nakies all the time KRRROOOOOOM
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 4	Posted - 2014.03.13 02:02:00 - [11150] - Quote Do you guys know if arum is transferable? I wanna get kincaats to 5 and PD to 5 and electronics to 4, and need ~2 mil SP for it. However, i could only afford the 4k arum pack, and need 1k more arum, so if it is, ill trade 5 mil isk for 1k arum Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 680	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:10:00 - [11151] - Quote I'll be hanging up the cloak and dagger for a while my fellow bastards. Not in agreement with how CCP is doing the respec. Sent in a ticket to hear "HTFU" in which I am going to keep pressing until I get an answer on why it was done for vehicles and not infantry. Ill keep pushing up the ticket. I suggest the rest of you who feel the same, also continue the plight. Remember the customer is always right. I plan on waiting it out until I have the passive SP to skill into the things I want to run. I will run 10 battles each on all my alts for the event and then I am shutting it down for a while. Also I want to see if CCP changes anything I don't want to put my SP somewhere that gets hit with the mega nerf bat and told to HTFU again with my SP. Grindy game is grindy and I just can't take it any more. o7 PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR TCD ToXiCaTeD RISE of LEGION 1638	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:13:00 - [11152] - Quote this is my planned build for the scout ck.0 in 1.8. it has it's flaws, but overall, i think it's a pretty good fit. Anime > EVERYTHING
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1400	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:20:00 - [11153] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: I'll be hanging up the cloak and dagger for a while my fellow bastards. Not in agreement with how CCP is doing the respec. Sent in a ticket to hear "HTFU" in which I am going to keep pressing until I get an answer on why it was done for vehicles and not infantry. Ill keep pushing up the ticket. I suggest the rest of you who feel the same, also continue the plight. Remember the customer is always right. I plan on waiting it out until I have the passive SP to skill into the things I want to run. I will run 10 battles each on all my alts for the event and then I am shutting it down for a while. Also I want to see if CCP changes anything I don't want to put my SP somewhere that gets hit with the mega nerf bat and told to HTFU again with my SP. Grindy game is grindy and I just can't take it any more. o7 We'll miss you, Iggy. I hope that they change their mind and respec more than just dropsuit command skills. The new changes to weapon proficiency are pretty lame in my book.... Double posting like a Kaiser.
Appia Nappia Nos Nothi 350	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:29:00 - [11154] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: this is my planned build for the scout ck.0 in 1.8. it has it's flaws, but overall, i think it's a pretty good fit. No grenade? Even with grenades going from 3 to 2 I don't like I could live without my fluxes Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 690	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:35:00 - [11155] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: I'll be hanging up the cloak and dagger for a while my fellow bastards. Not in agreement with how CCP is doing the respec. Sent in a ticket to hear "HTFU" in which I am going to keep pressing until I get an answer on why it was done for vehicles and not infantry. Ill keep pushing up the ticket. I suggest the rest of you who feel the same, also continue the plight. Remember the customer is always right. I plan on waiting it out until I have the passive SP to skill into the things I want to run. I will run 10 battles each on all my alts for the event and then I am shutting it down for a while. Also I want to see if CCP changes anything I don't want to put my SP somewhere that gets hit with the mega nerf bat and told to HTFU again with my SP. Grindy game is grindy and I just can't take it any more. o7 We'll miss you, Iggy. I hope that they change their mind and respec more than just dropsuit command skills. The new changes to weapon proficiency are pretty lame in my book.... Wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting for full release of racial weapons before they do the resepc. I've noticed alot of people complaining in general about wanting to spec out of heavies but being forced to keep their heavy weapon. I expect once the additional weapons are released they'll get the chance to change over. No point doing it now. Knowledge is power
Oswald Rehnquist 1276	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:40:00 - [11156] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Do you guys know if arum is transferable? I wanna get kincaats to 5 and PD to 5 and electronics to 4, and need ~2 mil SP for it. However, i could only afford the 4k arum pack, and need 1k more arum, so if it is, ill trade 5 mil isk for 1k arum Not to my knowledge they aren't TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: this is my planned build for the scout ck.0 in 1.8. it has it's flaws, but overall, i think it's a pretty good fit. The only flaw I saw, is that with the 1.8 changes, a scout with a precision mod will pretty much effectively counter what you have, especially considering that one well placed BrScp shot and your on deaths door. Also I see that you diversified your damage profiles which is good. Below 28 dB
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3363	Posted - 2014.03.13 05:24:00 - [11157] - Quote Anyone else notice the Proto Magsec's ROF? 666.66 ROF This does not bode well Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5044	Posted - 2014.03.13 05:26:00 - [11158] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Anyone else notice the Proto Magsec's ROF? 666.66 ROF This does not bode well I'm telling you CCP is Caldari and Amarr, everything else get's the short end of the stick. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 692	Posted - 2014.03.13 05:32:00 - [11159] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Anyone else notice the Proto Magsec's ROF? 666.66 ROF This does not bode well I'm telling you CCP is Caldari and Amarr, everything else get's the short end of the stick. That's the benefit of playing Minmatar. They give you the short end of the stick, 5 minutes and some gaff tape and you can shiv them with it. Knowledge is power
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 339	Posted - 2014.03.13 06:48:00 - [11160] - Quote @Everyone Momentarily lost interest in dust when they announced that only drop suit command is being refunded. So I didn't even notice that they've changed the scouts scan precision to 40. If anyone asks wether or not it is worth checking out dust 1.8 I'll tell them: No. If you don't like it now, 1.8 won't do anything for you. I'll get around to updating the table today. (Might even do it directly in google docs if there aren't to many changes.) Edit: lol no, google docs lags out this computer. I'll update it later today. Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK



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