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Appia Nappia wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Appia Nappia wrote:

a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though,

If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it!

Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again.

We can look at copying the Dragonfly look and colors to the other racial Dropsuits.

Not the same as "transmuting" one of my multiple C-I Assault suits into a G-I Assault suit.

And I still say a 'Templar' Commando A-I and 'Templar' Scout A-I are needed and should be given freely to the people that used EVE 10 year anniversary codes -Templar Manhunt lottery winners don't need them.

And the Dragonfly Assault "skin" isn't really all that asthetically pleasing. It's more because I like the idea of "sets" of BPOs existing with a name per race.
Individually purchased but instead of a whole Role having Quafe, a whole Race having the same design.

We will try to more of that, f.ex. the Primordial/etc sets, we are planning to fix and update them. Possibly same with Valor/Raven/Sever

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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5878	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:53:00 - [23551] - Quote mollerz wrote: It's true. Outside of a select few elite shotgunners is it really a problem? Last we heard from Rattati its really a real problem. Even if it weren't though, I'd still dig Haerr's idea :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:56:00 - [23552] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: mollerz wrote: It's true. Outside of a select few elite shotgunners is it really a problem? Last we heard from Rattati its really a real problem. Even if it weren't though, I'd still dig Haerr's idea :-) If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again. Its OK as is. The only OP it is is On Par with fine rifles as an infantry slayer. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5878	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:58:00 - [23553] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Th sonly problem is one dampener min scouts, which I run a lot with 2 kin cats, or a kincat+codebreaker...Something tells me that this will make them worse than with the ADV cloak.... Something tells you, Gav? Something tells me you are weighing in on the spreadsheet without looking at the spreadsheet. Current Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp + Adv Cloak Proposed Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp ADv cloak should put you at 22.... 31.5.75.95=22.4, which rounds to 22. You're right! Ran it at 24 ... got 22.8. Good eye. You've found our first casualty :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2568	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:00:00 - [23554] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Th sonly problem is one dampener min scouts, which I run a lot with 2 kin cats, or a kincat+codebreaker...Something tells me that this will make them worse than with the ADV cloak.... Something tells you, Gav? Something tells me you are weighing in on the spreadsheet without looking at the spreadsheet. Current Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp + Adv Cloak Proposed Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp ADv cloak should put you at 22.... 31.5.75.95=22.4, which rounds to 22. You're right! Ran it at 24 ... got 22.8. Good eye. You've found our first casualty :-) Haha my knowledge of the exact numbers on my min scout has finally paid off! "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5879	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:02:00 - [23555] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again. That's the point of these talks, Gav. The Shotgun by itself is a pretty crap, but add a low-profile scout to the equation and its suddenly good. We're looking at tweaking the second part of that equation. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Appia Nappia 1352	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:14:00 - [23556] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again. That's the point of these talks, Gav. The Shotgun by itself is a pretty crap, but add a low-profile scout to the equation and its suddenly good. We're looking at tweaking the second part of that equation. Because if it isn't crap for everyone, it's just not fair. So very tired
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2569	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:24:00 - [23557] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again. That's the point of these talks, Gav. The Shotgun by itself is a pretty crap, but add a low-profile scout to the equation and its suddenly good. We're looking at tweaking the second part of that equation. I have shotgunned almost exclusively following my frustration and refusal to knife any more (around 1.3?), following going 2/25 against a full Q-Sync of slayer Logi's. I have always speed tanked my scout suit, and used it. I have endured the days where a militia assault rifle was better than nova knives or a SG at 5 meters. I have killed my fair share of "good" shotgunners with my own shotgun, and countless medium frames besides. The first time I used a drop suit that was neither a minmitar scout or a militia drop suit was a month ago when I skilled into minmitar heavies. I have been using my shotgun for more than a year, iirc. I have used it on a minmitar scout exclusively. I have played around 100 PC's in my career on this character, and have used a SG in probably 85-90 of them. These^^are my credentials, as little as they matter. From my experience, though many of you probably think that it may be little, I have come to understand that there are really just three factors that will allow you to win in a 1v1 or 1v2 scenario. HP, positioning, and speed. HP is HP, driver from plates and extenders. Very simple. If you don't have enough HP, you'll be killed as you flank, or when your enemy turns around. Positioning is even more important, and can be gained from eWAR modules, with dampening to allow yourself to make a play, or precision to see when a good to move in for the kill is. Speed is what allows you to firstly get into your positioning, eWAR aside, and secondly is necessary for the mad scramble in CQC. Even more underrated, however, is the ability to use speed to turn 2 or 3v1's into 2 or 3 1v1's. You can't be an effective shotgunner unless you have a part of each of the three in moderation. The current system forces you to do that. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2569	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:25:00 - [23558] - Quote Just my long winded, anecdotal, unmathematical 2 cents. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2569	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:27:00 - [23559] - Quote Also give me back my RoF proficiency. The weapon still doesn't feel right. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
mollerz 5551	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:02:00 - [23560] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: I do SUCK wrote: any good min scout setups for advanced suit PW: Pro NKs aka IshNoks. I'm seriously fukn serious

LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 587	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:13:00 - [23561] - Quote Quafe assault BPOs! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177491&find=unread Click it! I dare you...
mollerz 5551	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:14:00 - [23562] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Also give me back my RoF proficiency. The weapon still doesn't feel right. ROF nerf really screwed the shotty the most. There has been a huge hub bub between some dusters and CCP about releasing numbers like they do with eve.That aside.. even as a knifer I find it a challenge, but do enjoy specifically killing shotgun scouts with knives (probably the only scouts I can kill!). Outside of killing a proto heavy, the next best trophy is a shotgun scout for a knifer. Cause when that happens it's straight up needless to say ownage. I think heavy QQ should just be patted upon the head and leave it at that. I'm seriously fukn serious
mollerz 5552	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:25:00 - [23563] - Quote LeGoose wrote: Quafe assault BPOs! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177491&find=unread See that is a great idea.. so ******* cool. So what are we buying into/funding? CCP Ratatati.. what's up with this long term? I'm seriously fukn serious
Appia Nappia 1355	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:53:00 - [23564] - Quote a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. So very tired
mollerz 5552	Posted - 2014.10.14 04:30:00 - [23565] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. Yup. I'm seriously fukn serious

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8602	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:29:00 - [23566] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. We can look at copying the Dragonfly look and colors to the other racial Dropsuits. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Appia Nappia 1357	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:49:00 - [23567] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. We can look at copying the Dragonfly look and colors to the other racial Dropsuits. Not the same as "transmuting" one of my multiple C-I Assault suits into a G-I Assault suit. And I still say a 'Templar' Commando A-I and 'Templar' Scout A-I are needed and should be given freely to the people that used EVE 10 year anniversary codes -Templar Manhunt lottery winners don't need them. And the Dragonfly Assault "skin" isn't really all that asthetically pleasing. It's more because I like the idea of "sets" of BPOs existing with a name per race. Individually purchased but instead of a whole Role having Quafe, a whole Race having the same design. So very tired
Appia Nappia 1357	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:55:00 - [23568] - Quote I am also going to take back what I said earlier. I would totally buy a 'Quafe' G-I Assault if it was Chromosome's Pink Quafe color instead of the current purple. It just wouldn't be on my main as I found one of my alts with some AUR So very tired
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17218	Posted - 2014.10.14 06:13:00 - [23569] - Quote I miss the trilcolor pink-purple-blue on white suit ><. But prototype colors theming and new shaders had to come along and force it to be purple on black. My hope is that the standard bpos quafes have the white on them. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8604	Posted - 2014.10.14 09:47:00 - [23570] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. We can look at copying the Dragonfly look and colors to the other racial Dropsuits. Not the same as "transmuting" one of my multiple C-I Assault suits into a G-I Assault suit. And I still say a 'Templar' Commando A-I and 'Templar' Scout A-I are needed and should be given freely to the people that used EVE 10 year anniversary codes -Templar Manhunt lottery winners don't need them. And the Dragonfly Assault "skin" isn't really all that asthetically pleasing. It's more because I like the idea of "sets" of BPOs existing with a name per race. Individually purchased but instead of a whole Role having Quafe, a whole Race having the same design. We will try to more of that, f.ex. the Primordial/etc sets, we are planning to fix and update them. Possibly same with Valor/Raven/Sever "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Bayeth Mal Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1595	Posted - 2014.10.14 10:46:00 - [23571] - Quote mollerz wrote: Outside of killing a proto heavy, the next best trophy is a shotgun scout for a knifer. Cause when that happens it's straight up needless to say ownage. Haven't played for a couple of months but last time I was on I stabbed a shotgun Amarr scout so many times he stopped trying to hunt me down on my objective. Actually got a few stabs on Amarr back then. Also got a fair few on tanked Gal shotgunners too. Haven't been around much. But good to see we're still circling the same topics. EWAR over hauls, OP sentinels and "fine shotguns". We'll bang, OK?
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6679	Posted - 2014.10.14 11:10:00 - [23572] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: a G-I BPO?! Who knew that one day Gallente Assault would finally get a BPO. If only the Dragonfly Assault was converted though, If this had come out a year ago I totally would have spent money on it! Too bad the game is dead. Unless there's confirmed new content and plans for new maps, I won't spend a cent on this game again. We can look at copying the Dragonfly look and colors to the other racial Dropsuits. Not the same as "transmuting" one of my multiple C-I Assault suits into a G-I Assault suit. And I still say a 'Templar' Commando A-I and 'Templar' Scout A-I are needed and should be given freely to the people that used EVE 10 year anniversary codes -Templar Manhunt lottery winners don't need them. And the Dragonfly Assault "skin" isn't really all that asthetically pleasing. It's more because I like the idea of "sets" of BPOs existing with a name per race. Individually purchased but instead of a whole Role having Quafe, a whole Race having the same design. We will try to more of that, f.ex. the Primordial/etc sets, we are planning to fix and update them. Possibly same with Valor/Raven/Sever Should do the pre-fitted suits without all the modules while you're at it. { \| bittervetmode = 1 I } == Description == This player has reached their breaking point [[Category: Angry]]
mollerz 5556	Posted - 2014.10.14 13:12:00 - [23573] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I miss the trilcolor pink-purple-blue on white suit ><. But prototype colors theming and new shaders had to come along and force it to be purple on black. My hope is that the standard bpos quafes have the white on them. Changing colors aka materials on a 3D model has to be amongst the easiest things to do in life. Edit: maybe it's just me, but I actually enjoy it. I'm seriously fukn serious
Immortal John Ripper 25088	Posted - 2014.10.14 13:30:00 - [23574] - Quote mollerz wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I miss the trilcolor pink-purple-blue on white suit ><. But prototype colors theming and new shaders had to come along and force it to be purple on black. My hope is that the standard bpos quafes have the white on them. Changing colors aka materials on a 3D model has to be amongst the easiest things to do in life. Edit: maybe it's just me, but I actually enjoy it. It is not just you, did it in college. Didn't major in it but it was pretty easy. Dear Diary - The thoughts of a madman.
Legoose MARKII Nos Nothi 179	Posted - 2014.10.14 17:05:00 - [23575] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2402459#post2402459 Current sidearm event numbers for those participating. Who is LeGoose anyway?
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4095	Posted - 2014.10.14 19:29:00 - [23576] - Quote Legoose MARKII wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2402459#post2402459 Current sidearm event numbers for those participating. Well that's demoralised me completely in regards to the Ion. If only I lived alone, then I'd be able to play through a night no bother. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4803	Posted - 2014.10.14 19:32:00 - [23577] - Quote Spademan wrote: Legoose MARKII wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2402459#post2402459 Current sidearm event numbers for those participating. Well that's demoralised me completely in regards to the Ion. If only I lived alone, then I'd be able to play through a night no bother. This. I would so love to participate. I think I could get over 500 if I really worked at it for long enough. It is just too much right now to pull a 20+ hr grind You can always tell a Millford Minja
Appia Nappia 1359	Posted - 2014.10.14 22:06:00 - [23578] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Spademan wrote: Legoose MARKII wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2402459#post2402459 Current sidearm event numbers for those participating. Well that's demoralised me completely in regards to the Ion. If only I lived alone, then I'd be able to play through a night no bother. This. I would so love to participate. I think I could get over 500 if I really worked at it for long enough. It is just too much right now to pull a 20+ hr grind I wish I had the drive to do that. Haven't played in a hardcore way like that since. . . July 2013 . . . right around the time I posted "hey guys I have proto shotgun again!" in this thread. So very tired
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3246	Posted - 2014.10.14 22:20:00 - [23579] - Quote Have any of you seen Hotfix Matho to the sidearm event numbers? Let us just say that things were not as they initially appeared See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2581	Posted - 2014.10.15 03:33:00 - [23580] - Quote Im going to make a satirical anti Magnus thread in F&D. Can you guys pretend to argue with me about it so that I can show Magnus how ridiculous his method of supporting his position is? Thats all I ask I will provide the comic humor, and/or trolliness. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor



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