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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:56:00 -
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I'd like some of you guys to take a look at a thread i made about enhancing scout niches with new racial bonuses and was hoping some of you guys might wanna check it out and give me your opinion on them. Thanks for the feedback! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134598&find=unread
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:06:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Oh the crying is just starting. Wait until we start slaying prey we choose instead of prey of opportunity. All those pub stompers who aren't used to dying are going to start losing some expensive ass suits.
PErhaps we should start drawing up a hit list?
I think, at the top, we put Kain Sparo for the crime of attempting to prenerf us scouts.
I'm thinking this list could get kind of long.
Can we just add the entirety of Nyain San to this hitlist?
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Also there is the concern that a gal logi would slap a cloak on and laugh at the fitting costs thus if the cloak is not 'prenerfed' you're going to wind up with a gal logi able to not only scan every single scout out there but he's able to out cloak you as well with heavier damage and defenses.
exactly. The only way to stop this from happening, is to make cloaks scout-only. Trouble is, seems like the CCP designers, are explicitly desiging FOR the cloaked gal logi to happen. Which makes quite a few of us non-logi players, really, really pissed. Its pissing me off too but I haven't heard the full story yet so I don't know what to draft up to ccp on the whole thing. I rather see scouts get bonuses or triates for built in scanning, stamina, speed, fleeting tanks (high regen type tanks), higher agility (lower the penalty of strafing) stealthing, hacking (which based on 1.7's sde they already have a bonus of 5% (gal) or 10% (min)) or hell at least a second equipment slot so a scout can do covert things.
read my thread if you want any ideas on some innate ability improving scout bonuses :) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134598&find=unread Id appreciate some feedback too
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Posted - 2014.01.11 06:00:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=135117&find=unread
read the thread and watch the vid
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:23:00 -
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Caldari: 5% to enemy scan precision/active scanner scan precision per level, keeps the current cloaking bonus Gallente: 5% bonus to scan precision, 10% bonus to scan range Minmitar: 5% assassination bonus to damage dealt to the sides and back of the target, 3% to movement speed and sprint speed Amarr: 10% to max stamina, and stamina regeneration, keeps current cloaking bonus
discuss :)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:43:00 -
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Ruthless Lee wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:would you trade a grenade slot instead? (time sensitive question) Are scouts SO CLOSE to being OP or FOTM that we have to lose something to gain something? Of all the options presented (so far), I guess I'd give up a grenade for a second equipment stlot ... but come on. This is getting silly... And no, I don't necessarily blame you, IWS, so don't misunderstand me. It just seems that there's such a fear of scouts around here that we're trying to keep any buffs from actually being, you know ... an overall improvement.
I personally think that equipment should be able to fit in grenade slots. Boom. Problem solved
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:51:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134598&find=unread
If you guys could read my thread and give me some support, Id really appreciate it. Btw, on pg 18, there are a lot of numbers you may like to see
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:34:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it!
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:34:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it! If scouts are getting a base of 35 that is essentially is our old/current bonus, which is 34 when rounded compared to a base of 35 which is what CCP proposed, so with the suggested innate damp in the suit its already there. Add in an additional 25%, brings all scouts down to 27 (when rounded up), so perhaps this is intentionally. One also has to consider if the counters are still viable especially when we are getting the cloak, not saying it is or isn't but CCP will be concerned about it. Another thing to consider is the current precision vs dampening meta game makes precision one of the most useless stats, thus most of us ignore it for the most part due to the fact that our profiles are innately so much lower than our precision, and our base precision is enough to catch most medium frames. I would like precision to be a more meaningful stat thus I am actually in favor of removing lopsided profile/precision, which is easily enough to throw any reduce number innately on our suit without it having to be a skill, so I think an overall cpu/pg reduction on anything with a biotic/electronic tag on any item or module would be a better role bonus. I'm not going to go into huge detail but I think they is a discrepancy between your gal/min vs your cal/am scouts in skill utility. That being said, since I don't like a role bonus favoring profile over precision, I still think the gal scout should be profile reduction (which is what it is in eve), and the radius bonus, though I understand if I ruffle a few feathers with that one. of the other two a few issues in utility in your proposition Cal Scout 1) the cal scout is rendered moot by your gal scout 2) The cal scout bonus you suggested wouldn't even protect a team of mediums from a regular advance scanner 3) Running with medium frames is generally a bad idea in general unless they have ran scout because they don't move quite as intelligently 4) I would image the reduction to active scanners would be difficult to implement Am Scout 1) The purpose to stamina is equipment running, so would need another a EQ slot over other scouts to justify this role 2) As you suggested if it got the stamina boost, it would need the cooldown reduction as well to open it up. In addition I believe CCP is actually getting rid of firing mechanic when cloak based on the fact in the "scouts not satisfied thread" they were inquiring about what the new c-scout bonus would be (and not the others), and the only reason I can come up with why they would just ask for the cal scout is due to the fact that bonus will no longer be part of the mechanic (they also have addressed the cpm's no cloak firing thread), which is why I'm thinking there will be no firing from cloak, thus I believe CCP is still fishing for their cal scout, so I don't believe anything is set for it. Yeah the cal scout bonus was ccp's idea but i liked it so i decided to use it...i think its a good counter especially in a perma scanned battlefield that most of us run into nowadays, but id also like to see a ludicrously high base scan range on the cal scout but also very high precision, so that the scout is performing its primary task of being a counter to scanners, but I agree that it should probably be closer to 10% than 5, to make it a useful counter. Also, from the way i beleive that scanners are coded, as just an extension of the basic electronics, I think it would be actually relatively easy to implement, but that depends on the way ccp coded for the active scanners, and with a large increase to scan range, i dont think that it is neccessary to run with medium frames in order to hide them
A scout- I agree, that it should get an extra equipment, but should probably lose a module slot of some sort in exchange so that it doesnt overpower the other 3 classes
Thanks for the feedback!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:36:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it! You may want to check in with the Minmatar Scouts before suggesting changes to their NK bonuses. Quite a few of them skilled into the suit for this exact reason. As for Gallente bonuses, Scan Range is great, but I personally don't find Scan Precision to be particularly helpful. Double Post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1729822#post1729822 precision isn't helpful because of three things 1) lopsided role bonus to profile 2) precision mods operating at one meta level below dampening mods 3) precision is mainly just used to catch scouts
The easy fix to this would just be to tune precision modules so that they are equivalent to dampener modules
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.19 01:48:00 -
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An idea to solve the current inter scout disparity would be to modify the current base stats of the scouts, and then implement a better bonus for the amarr scout. First off, buff the base move/sprint speed for all scout suits buy 3%, except for the min which would get 5%, to enhance its role as the fastest scout on the field. Then, give all scouts an inherent stamina bonus of 5% to maximum/recharge rate, except for the amarr scout which would get a 50% stamina bonus to max and recharge rate. This way, the amarr scout is now faster than a minny assault, and has by far the most stamina of any unit in the game. Then, give the amarr scout a very specialized bonus, I was thinking +10% to scrambler pistol magazine capacity per level, this way equally affecting breach, assault and bust variants. It would be very similar to the minmitar nova knife bonus, probably even better, due to how hard nova knives are to use.
I think this is a good way to help out the future amarr scouts
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Posted - 2014.01.19 01:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Perhaps then, and don't get me wrong I am not trying to upset anybody, a rebalancing of Nova Knives is required making standard Nova Knife damage higher, rewarding the risk of using them, but the charge time to use the Main Double Strike higher.
In that sense the Amarr could then use a more efficient energy generation/ conservation technology in their suits charging the blades 25% faster.
Thats not a bad idea :) +1 to this
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Perhaps then, and don't get me wrong I am not trying to upset anybody, a rebalancing of Nova Knives is required making standard Nova Knife damage higher, rewarding the risk of using them, but the charge time to use the Main Double Strike higher.
In that sense the Amarr could then use a more efficient energy generation/ conservation technology in their suits charging the blades 25% faster.
Thats not a bad idea :) +1 to this IMO Nova Knives don't make sense to me for the Amarr. No doubt they are a cool concept and one that makes sense for small suits to carry......but the Amarr aren't a practically minded people. Form is function to us, on the battlefield we might pass over simple and compact designs in favour of something more symbolic.... I see no reason that we should have 4 racial Nova Knife variants....if they are to all be essentially the same..... If Nova weapons were to be a thing....and I don't like suggesting this, could not the Nova Knives, weapons, spears whathave you have different damage and charge modules per racial group. Now if the Amarr naturally had a slightly higher range on their strikes but a longer change time on their knives.......such a charge bonus would not be amiss unbalanced, or depriving another weapon of its intended role would it?
No, i don't think so, but for now, since we don't have anything other than nova knives, the original nova knife bonus you suggested would be good, but if not, scram pistols are a good idea. I also saw another one i liked, about drop uplink cloaking per level, so at level 5, they would only be detectable by proto focused scanners, and thus have to be hunted manually. I really like this idea. Imagine assaulting an objective, with enemies coming from all over the place, but you have no idea how to stop the flow, as its impossible to find the spawn points, leaving the objective eventually overrun by a tide of blues, with the amarr collecting +25's by the bucket load
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Perhaps then, and don't get me wrong I am not trying to upset anybody, a rebalancing of Nova Knives is required making standard Nova Knife damage higher, rewarding the risk of using them, but the charge time to use the Main Double Strike higher.
In that sense the Amarr could then use a more efficient energy generation/ conservation technology in their suits charging the blades 25% faster.
Thats not a bad idea :) +1 to this IMO Nova Knives don't make sense to me for the Amarr. No doubt they are a cool concept and one that makes sense for small suits to carry......but the Amarr aren't a practically minded people. Form is function to us, on the battlefield we might pass over simple and compact designs in favour of something more symbolic.... I see no reason that we should have 4 racial Nova Knife variants....if they are to all be essentially the same..... If Nova weapons were to be a thing....and I don't like suggesting this, could not the Nova Knives, weapons, spears whathave you have different damage and charge modules per racial group. Now if the Amarr naturally had a slightly higher range on their strikes but a longer change time on their knives.......such a charge bonus would not be amiss unbalanced, or depriving another weapon of its intended role would it? No, i don't think so, but for now, since we don't have anything other than nova knives, the original nova knife bonus you suggested would be good, but if not, scram pistols are a good idea. I also saw another one i liked, about drop uplink cloaking per level, so at level 5, they would only be detectable by proto focused scanners, and thus have to be hunted manually. I really like this idea. Imagine assaulting an objective, with enemies coming from all over the place, but you have no idea how to stop the flow, as its impossible to find the spawn points, leaving the objective eventually overrun by a tide of blues, with the amarr collecting +25's by the bucket load Yeah that's not bad.... Thing is and the Amarr players of this forum have been dealing with this for a long time..... we don't want bonuses that are neceassarily the most efficient or the "BEST"....we just want bonuses that fit the racial combat inclinations of the Amarr....which so far CCP has not well defined since in and FPS we cannot have resistance modules.
So do we agree about a cloaking bonus to drop uplinks? I really really like it
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:17:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:What I hate most about this is it may appear like I am only advocating so strongly for a better Amarr racial bonus because I favor the Amarr, but that is not the case at all. This bonus is simply not on par with the rest, and I'd be doing the same thing regardless of which race was getting gimped. Aero, I can see where you are coming from here, and honestly i do not think that you are pushing this as favouring the Amarr. Please understand that I am not arguing against you, and I hope you understand that I am not against balancing the Amarr scout. The thing is having the ability to but two complex Card Regs on a suit without a stacking penalty will not be good for balance. As I have said before it needs something else, what that is I don't know, but most of the suggestions I have seen are not likely to be balanced either. The confrontational attitude that many (not saying you, but you have verged on it before) take is not one that will produce good dialogue on the subject so I avoid it. Also don't imply that I am slow and need things put simply for me, this is very much not the case. I apologize if my teasing caused offence, honestly I don't think of your posts as whining Aero (and actually was not even thinking of you in that way at all). You are actually someone that I have respect for, and I actually enjoy reading what you have to say.
Read my post about a cloaking bonus to drop uplinks with amarr. I think if you coupled this with my inherent base stat buff to all scout drop suits, the amarr scout would be super versatile at scouting/discreetly assaulting a position
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:23:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:What do you imagine the play-style of the Amarr Scout to be?
Gal and Amarr make good Lightning Bruisers
Minmatar a Glass Cannon
And Caldari the Anti-Scout and Sniper
Minmitar- fastest suit in the game, assassin, good at hacking everything. Overall, a super speed anarchist
Caldari- Best passive scanning in the game, good sniper. Overall, it is a hunter of scouts and other suits, but especially scouts
Gallente- best profile dampening, best scan awareness to undampened targets. Overall, an electronic ghost, completely invisible
Amarr- Heaviest of all scouts, a light crossover between an assault, a scout, and a logo, best stamina, best at running uplinks for assault from discreet positions. Overall, it is the best all around scout, with the most versatility
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Posted - 2014.01.19 21:57:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Django Quik wrote:Scout Registry wrote:@ Django I'm opposed to desecrating hallowed shrine. Here we recognize for perpetuity those brave few who waited out the winter together, and those deprived masochists who bolstered ranks at our weakest. Here we stood steadfast in the face of adversity and repeated disappointment. Here we hatched devious and deadly means of mitigating disadvantage. Here Bastard Brothers Stood United ... and also Quil. Playing catch up here - what was this about? I might be reaching, but i think Ole Scout Reg is saying the old barbershop is going to remained closed. A shrine to what a fubar mess uprising till 1.8 was for a scout. After 1.8 drops, we're presumably back in action, and will all have a place in the new corp making this thread officially retired. Not just closed. We all suffered, stood together, and this is a testament to those dark times. And also, Quil is here.
What is this new corp? Btw any of you guys are welcome in TRA1LBLAZERS. Im ceo, and all you have to do is say that your part of this scout community in your application and ill accept it
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:21:00 -
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Brokerib wrote: Mini - superspeed anarchist and assassin Gal/Cal - ghost and hunter
Fixed it for you :)
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:44:00 -
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post 8000
EDIT:Yes, I got it
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:30:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:icdedppul wrote:so I just came on to see if we got the 1.8 dev blog
saw the new proposed stats and my jaw dropped
who the hell did we give sexual favors to for this?
Sure it would be nice to have more eHP then a nano hive.. but I think a gradual change would be better, so we dont become a FOTM and then get re nerfed
happy yet concerned minja I think that any nerf concerns in the future should be directed at the cloak rather than scout....I hope Also CPM gave the sexual favor, took one for the team.
I loled
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Posted - 2014.01.21 02:55:00 -
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Guys my ps3 has YLOD for this entire shinobi event so far, and probably wont be fized until its over, depending on when i get new flux. As a minja knifer, this is a crushing blow indeed
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Posted - 2014.01.21 02:59:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Guys my ps3 has YLOD for this entire shinobi event so far, and probably wont be fized until its over, depending on when i get new flux. As a minja knifer, this is a crushing blow indeed Well, you missed out on almost 30mil worth of prizes. I can send you 10mil if you want. If we can get two other donors, we could save our buddy!
You guys are the best lol did the event already end?
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:59:00 -
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Just to appease the amarrian QQ'ersGǪer, scouts, i say we allow for a 10% bonus to stamina and stamina regen per level, and give every scout suit a 5% base bonus to these afore mentioned stats, as well as a 3% move/ sprint speed bonus, (except min, which would get 5%)
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:03:00 -
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I just had a really cool idea for proto scout camoGǪyou know how all the other classes (like assaults and logistics) get a cool digital camouflage that is for visuals only? Well what if you gave that to the scout, but instead of alternating colors or some **** like that, have the alternating color be invisible, so that when the scout is moving, it breaks up its appearance and would look ghost like, and harder to track. tell me what y'all think
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:My Whole Scout plans of the FUTURE ARE A LIE!
the caldari scout does not GET ANY PROFILE DAMP PER LEVEL D: Precision and Radar range! thats what they get! I read wrong , yet again...
Nor they have enough Low slots to effectively Profile Damp and Increase Scan Range! WTH...im sweating...will i have to use a gallente suit?
OMG WHY/.....why...
TT-TT
KC ...is depressed...
Try the minmitar, they get the most situational bonuses of any suit in the game. One only works on the most skill intensive weapon in the game, the other doesn't even work in 1/4 of all matches (yes 1/4. Ambush OMS it still is applicable, just not useful)
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Posted - 2014.01.23 02:17:00 -
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Back in the olden days when I ran nova knives only with no other weapon or equipment save a stable active scanner, I remember having a knife duel with him, and somehow managed to kill him. I saw his name in the feed and was like "oh **** I hope he recorded that one "
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:11:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137905&find=unread
Please read, and comment on your opinions, my scoutly brethren
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:24:00 -
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Just did a mathmatical comparison of the Gallente and Minmitar scout at maximum skill level, and here are the finidings
Just to do a clean and easy to read comparison- Both races are using a k5 specialist shotgun, a STD SMG, and a stable active scanner, and it is assumed that all skills are maxed out. Minmitar- 3x SE's 2x KC's 1x PD Gallente- 3x KC's 1x STD armor plate 1x PRO DM 1x PRO SE Now to compare the stats: Minmitar- Total HP-430.3, 14.2 higher than Gallente, or less than one bullet from an unmodded, STD HMG No armor repair HP No Damage Mod- Does less damage than Gallente Speed=7.91x1.05x1+(.24x1.05)=about 10.39 m/s hacking speed-26.25% faster hacking at maximum skills dB- equal to Gallente, able to dodge non focused proto scanner Less scan radius than Gallente (If someone is willing to do the math, please go for it) Cannot fit a cloak Gallente- Total HP-416.1, 14.2 less than Minmitar Has 3 hp/second repair to armor Does more damage due to added PRO DM ( not sure on the DM's in 1.8; they are being readjusted) Speed=7.68x1.05x.98x1+(.12x3x1.05)=about 10.74 m/s or about a third of a meter per second faster than minmitar dB- equal to minmitar Able to fit a basic cloak
While I dont mind the Gallente scout having what it has, I do mind that the minmitar is unable to fit a cloak with max fittings, while sacrificing so much just to be comparable to the Gallente scout.
Please understand that Im normally not this whiny, I just noticed this disparity, and sought what the general opinion was of veterans who have been running scouts far longer than I.
Disclaimer: Checking if these all fit was done in the above thread, in case you wanted to check.
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what would you guys think if nova knives had a ballistic function added to them? pressing L1 or whatever aiming button brings them up for throwing. you throw one at a time, and can charge them for a 3x damage bonus, with R1, or just tap R1 to release them. They would fly about 8 meters and then go on an exponentially lower downward path (similar to a half parabola inverted over the x axis). When the knives miss, they are marked on your mini map and on the ground with a blue glow like that of equipment, and can be picked up and retrieved. If they kill the enemy on the first or second knife, the knives fall where the enemy died. If not, they pop out of the enemy after one second for retreival. When you die, the knives despawn themselves. After throwing one, you must press L1 again and a short animation must occur before the second kinfe can be thrown, the animation duration could be on the order of like .1 seconds, just to prevent spam and keep them balanced. The knives are not a separate variant, but just gain another function. Any other questions and I'd be happy to answer them. Thoughts?
EDIT: also for those of you who like #'s: max throwing knife damage with no damage mod on a minmitar scout= 200 (ishnoks)*1.15(profV)x1.25(min scout bonus)x3(charge bonus)=862.5 fully charged, and 287.5 with no charge
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:They would fly about 8 meters and then go on an exponentially lower downward path (similar to a half parabola inverted over the x axis). No habla espanol, senor (no know how to make accent marks either).
look up the function x-å2 then imagine just 1/2 of it, upside down kinda like this: __ .......\ ..........\ .............\ ...............\ ................\ .................| .................|
The line at the beginning is the straight flight path it didnt put in the spaces...one sec
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:what would you guys think if nova knives had a ballistic function added to them? pressing L1 or whatever aiming button brings them up for throwing. you throw one at a time, and can charge them for a 3x damage bonus, with R1, or just tap R1 to release them. They would fly about 8 meters and then go on an exponentially lower downward path (similar to a half parabola inverted over the x axis). When the knives miss, they are marked on your mini map and on the ground with a blue glow like that of equipment, and can be picked up and retrieved. If they kill the enemy on the first or second knife, the knives fall where the enemy died. If not, they pop out of the enemy after one second for retreival. When you die, the knives despawn themselves. After throwing one, you must press L1 again and a short animation must occur before the second kinfe can be thrown, the animation duration could be on the order of like .1 seconds, just to prevent spam and keep them balanced. The knives are not a separate variant, but just gain another function. Any other questions and I'd be happy to answer them. Thoughts?
EDIT: also for those of you who like #'s: max throwing knife damage with no damage mod on a minmitar scout= 200 (ishnoks)*1.15(profV)x1.25(min scout bonus)x3(charge bonus)=862.5 fully charged, and 287.5 with no charge This idea comes up every so often in various incarnations. You put some thought into it, which is nice. Personally I prefer my knives to be knives.
The throwing function is still a lot weaker than throwing, it just allows you to snipe backpedalers and casuses people to fear nova knifers instead of just backpedaling while holding down R1, and allows knifers an option for a weak attack with a tiny bit of range
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backpedal speed needs a reduction, but i would also really like this throwing function to be created, as well as remove the slash sprint interrupton.
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=138656&find=unread please bump this thread, its about my previous nova knives posts
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Llast 326 wrote:removing the slash sprint interruption would be interesting, right now to avoid it i jump and charge sometimes (all depends on the situation)
it works, but isnt consistent, especially if your target is moving away from you, and especially if they are sprinting
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Scout Registry wrote:@ Ballistic Knives I'm with Llast. Ballistic Knives are a cool idea, but reducing backpedal speed would be a better idea.
or we could implement both everyones happy, especially me
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Quil Evrything wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:what would you guys think if nova knives had a ballistic function added to them? only if there was a chain attached. So, I guess that would mean mandatory cooldown while they rewind.
read my first post on them, it covers the mechanics in detail
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Just thought of a great troll scout build...minnie scout, 2x kincats, basic SMG, fast ammo refill hives, and core locus's. Run behind the reds, and reap the tears
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well look at you cool kids with your ps3's that are workingGǪi got to play one match on sunday before mine broke again, making it 3 weeks since i last played, excepting sunday
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WEAPONS -the general TTK for all weapons needs a decrease right now, as it is currently too low -aim assist needs some tuning, preferably in the downward direction, especially for rifles, proposed fix would be what CCP is currently doing, as it sounds pretty good -weapons currently in need of a nerf: The rail rifle needs a huge reticle, more recoil, and a lot of hipfire spread, assault rail rifle needs a 5-10% damage per bullet decrease The combat rifle (non-assault) needs a longer time for each burst, and a longer delay in between each burst, probably with a fire rate of 1000, but a larger delay in between bursts. The assault combat rifle is fine where it is, it has its ammo guzzling problems to balance it out The scrambler rifle needs more bonus to charge shot damage, (25-50%) but less regular shot damage (5-10% nerf) and have 1-2 shots less until heat up The assault rifle needs a range nerf of about 15-25%, but to balance this out and make the CQC weapon it is meant to be, increase all variants fire rate by 10%, nerf damage by 5%. The TAR needs a larger mag cap, but also a fire delay in between rounds similar to the combat rifle -All sidearms other than Flaylock and Nova knives need a 5-7% nerf to damage -weapons in need of a buff: Laser rifle, however, CCP has announced a hot fix coming soon Mass driver-increase splash damage to make it area of denial weapon by say 10% Sniper Rifle- more of a bonus to headshot damage only, also, headshotted enemies cannot be revived, give a higher mag cap to tactical variants (6 rounds) Shotgun-needs a pellet buff at ADV and PRO levels only, probably 2 pellets at ADV, and 4 at PRO, breach needs an upgrade to mag cap and slight buff to fire rate Plasma cannon-DoT is something CCP had in mind, but is probably going to be hard toimplement, so if it doesnt work out, give it a 10-20% boost to direct damage Flaylock- increase splash radius by 1 meter, and you have a balanced weapon Nova knives- remove sprinting interrupt for all slashes, only should interrupt sprinting when charge reaches 100% for more than 1 second, and maybe even add a ballistic function- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1784320#post1784320 Swarm Launcher-buff to 1.6 stats, except only 200m range
Now onto modules MODULES The main modules that need their effectiveness reduced in comparison to other modules are MLT, STD, and ADV armor plates (non-variant), and damage mods. CCP plans on nerfing damage mods, so i will not comment on that these are some possible buffs to reduce armor and shield disparity- STD: (85 armor, 3 PG, 10 CPU) vs (33 shields, 2 PG, 15 CPU) ADV: (110 armor, 6 PG, 20 CPU) vs (55 shields, 4 PG, 36 CPU) PRO: (135 armor, 12 PG, 30 CPU) vs (70 shields, 8 PG, 54 CPU) if anything, the ludicrous costs of shield extenders need to be lowered especially in the pg departments for 3 reasons- 1. At proto level, (their only useful level), they only cost 1 pg less than proto plates, but 24 more cpu 2. Shield tankers (minmitar/caldari) have very low pg, but high cpu 3. Biotic modules which are supposed to be coupled with shields to create a hit and run style of suit cost the most pg of any module in the game, making them unfittable if the user also wants to stack shields In addition, Caldari and minmitar suits need an innate buff to shield recharge delay (not depleted) and recharge rate of about 15-25% ARMOR ALSO NEEDS A BUFF yes i said it. The penalties for movement speed for all plates are backwards in my opinion, and is part of the reason no one uses anything past ADV plates. A solution for this would be to make the penalty constant across all tiers, possibly a 3-4% penalty depending on common opinion. Also, ferroscales and reactive plates are a joke, and i dont even use armor. I think that ferroscales need a slight buff hp wise (5% ish), but should also have very low fitting costs. Reactive plates should have a lower penalty than other plates (1-2%), and have 1/2/3 hp/s respectively for each tier. Also, they are in need of a lower fitting cost by a lot like ferroscales. Also, armor repairers should be moved to high slots. I currently think it is unfair to armor tankers that shield tankers are able to use both high and low slots to tank their suit, while armor tankers must only use low slots. -proposed buff for armor repairers-3/4/5 hp/s per level, and moved to a high slot -Armor repair, however, should not work while taking fire, in other words, add a 1 sec delay after taking fire to armor repair -OTHER MODULES- kincats should affect strafing speed, codebreakers need a lower cpu/pg cost
VEHICLES I wont even start trying to balance vehicles, there have been far too many threads on this topic already
DROPSUITS When 1.8 comes around, we really are going to see some great new things from all suits. The sentinel gets its huge damage reduction, scouts get more modules, moer equipment, and a cloak to boot. commandos are huge dps dealers, and logis will actually perform their roles, and have gotten huge buffs to equipment usage. Overall, though assault and logi stats arent out yet, they seem very balanced, but give m scouts more base speed, and logi/assaults more base HP
EQUIPMENT AND GRENADES The grenades are good, except for core locus and thukker. The core needs a slightly lower blast radius, and the thukker needs a small blast radius (packed at the most), but more damage (in the 400-500 range). Equipment seems to be good overall, as the active scanner is being turned into usable in only the way it is supposed to be used. I just want to see equipment spam being stopped, perhaps by having the limit for things like uplinks be for the total deployed, not the total deployed of each type.
And thats it! did i forget anything?
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Spademan wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Maybe it's just me.
But I loved high school.
I love college too.
I think I've just learned to create my own fun over time, cause there is very few things I hate to do.
Take golf for example. I'm terrible at it. But I'll have a blast at being bad at it.
Eh, coulda been the school I went to. Wasn't horrible, but it was terribly boring, and the teachers only let certain people even try out for the teams. Like the rugby team, loved the game, but I was denied access to trying out, the only one I could was the debate team. I hate debating. I used to be decent at golf, but I lost interest in taking it seriously so I just drive the balls down the field for stress relief from time to time. College is a blast, really has been the best time I've had so far. Our school won't let teachers turn you down for teams (unless they were by audition, such as baseball or Drumline). I was okay at football. I NEVER started a game in my life, but I was always on scout team (Made for some painful practices though. I remember the time I got laid out by the other teams RB at full sprint. I took that hit like a champ.) I made some great friends and had a blast at practice. I'm a big advocate for American Football. With the right coach, you can learn a lot more than football in the camps. I learned more than one life lesson, and most importantly, that there is no reason to not try your hardest at something. Making friends with people is surprisingly easy when you've trained, fought, lost and won together. I personally knew that my teammates would flat out carry you on their backs if they had to (which we did on more than one occasion. Coach even made us carry another team-member on our back and run stairs at one point. I may not be the best at football, but my QB knew for a fact that I could carry him up and down a set of stairs 20 times if I had to. Nothing builds trust like that.) Dangit, now I'm getting all nostalgic
wide receiver and corner is the funnest for real
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: wide receiver and corner is the funnest for real
I mainly Played saftey (There was only 6 people on our team faster than me in 40 times), but moonlighted as corner every now and then. Getting hit by RB's at full speed SUCKS. I then yell at my linebackers for not slowing them down (They get to full speed when they aren't touched AT ALL). I can't just let him run for free, so I run into him and aim for the legs. I only weigh like 170 though, so I got ran over most of the time. FB was even worse, as the guy was easily 230 and could run faster than I could I played RB myself after they found out I couldn't even catch a cold. In my defense, I CAN catch just fine in backyard football and when playing safety. There was just some mental block that killed me when I would realize that if I caught the ball on scout Offense, our Defense would DESTROY ME (They got 3rd at state for a reason. They were brutal). But yeah, football is fun. Makes you really tough after a few years too. i ran a sub 4.65 last summer, and I'm faster now. I play lax too cause I'm fast and i run for all my hits so i hit hard too. Any laxbros out there?
The only way to tackle someone who's running is to run even faster and drop a shoulder. Its also the only way not to get hurt
And yeah coordination is something I'm lacking, but i do tennis ball drills for an hour or so a day during the summer and football season
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Quil Evrything wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: But yeah, (american)football is fun. Makes you really tough after a few years too.
That's cause the repeated head trauma kills all the brain cells that tell you, "This is bad, stop doing it!"
I bet im smarter than 98% of high school students and Ive had on the order of 10 concussions between football and wrestling
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and i can drive faster than you can skate lol
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lol
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Lucifalic wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:and i can drive faster than you can skate lol Touch+¬. But can u drive faster then I can drive ?? The answer is: YES anything you can do, I can do faster thats my motto jk i just made it up on the spot
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hahaha
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I wish we had kin cats and myofibril stims in real life, and i could equip them to myself lol
3 second 40 here i come
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lol
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This list will be eternally incomplete, but i would like some feedback from you guys if you think i forgot anything. And please, no trolls. So to begin... WEAPONS -the general TTK for all weapons needs a decrease right now, as it is currently too high -aim assist needs some tuning, preferably in the downward direction, especially for rifles, proposed fix would be what CCP is currently doing, as it sounds pretty good -weapons currently in need of a nerf: The rail rifle needs a huge reticle, more recoil, and a lot of hipfire spread, assault rail rifle needs a 5-10% damage per bullet decrease The combat rifle needs a longer time for each burst, and a longer delay in between each burst, probably with a fire rate of 1000, but a larger delay in between bursts. The assault combat rifle is fine where it is, it has its ammo guzzling problems to balance it out, switch ScR and CR scopes too The scrambler rifle needs more bonus to charge up time (10-15%) but less regular shot damage (5-10% nerf) and have 1-2 shots less until heat up The assault rifle needs a range nerf of about 15-25%, but to balance this out and make the CQC weapon it is meant to be, increase all variants fire rate by 10%, nerf damage by 5%. The TAR needs a larger mag cap, but also a fire delay in between rounds similar to the combat rifle -All sidearms other than Flaylock and Nova knives need a 5-7% nerf to damage -weapons in need of a buff: Laser rifle, however, CCP has announced a hot fix coming soon Mass driver-increase splash damage to make it area of denial weapon by say 10% Sniper Rifle- more of a bonus to headshot damage only, also, headshotted enemies cannot be revived, give a higher mag cap to tactical variants (6 rounds) Shotgun-needs a pellet buff at ADV and PRO levels only, probably 2 pellets at ADV, and 4 at PRO, breach needs an upgrade to mag cap and slight buff to fire rate Plasma cannon-DoT is something CCP had in mind, but is probably going to be hard toimplement, so if it doesnt work out, give it a 10-20% boost to direct damage Flaylock- increase splash radius by 1 meter, and you have a balanced weapon Nova knives- remove sprinting interrupt for all slashes, only should interrupt sprinting when charge reaches 100% for more than 1 second, and maybe even add a ballistic function- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1784320#post1784320 Swarm Launcher-buff to 1.6 stats, except only 200m range
MODULES The main modules that need their effectiveness reduced in comparison to other modules are MLT, STD, and ADV armor plates (non-variant), and damage mods. CCP plans on nerfing damage mods, so i will not comment on that these are some possible buffs to reduce armor and shield disparity- STD: (85 armor, 3 PG, 10 CPU) vs (33 shields, 2 PG, 15 CPU) ADV: (110 armor, 6 PG, 20 CPU) vs (55 shields, 4 PG, 36 CPU) PRO: (135 armor, 12 PG, 30 CPU) vs (70 shields, 8 PG, 54 CPU) if anything, the ludicrous costs of shield extenders need to be lowered especially in the pg departments for 3 reasons- 1. At proto level, (their only useful level), they only cost 1 pg less than proto plates, but 24 more cpu 2. Shield tankers (minmitar/caldari) have very low pg, but high cpu 3. Biotic modules which are supposed to be coupled with shields to create a hit and run style of suit cost the most pg of any module in the game, making them unfittable if the user also wants to stack shields In addition, Caldari and minmitar suits need an innate buff to shield recharge delay (not depleted) and recharge rate of about 15-25% ARMOR ALSO NEEDS A BUFF The penalties for movement speed for all plates are backwards in my opinion, and is part of the reason no one uses anything past ADV plates. A solution for this would be to make the penalty constant across all tiers, possibly a 3-4% penalty depending on common opinion. Also, ferroscales and reactive plates are a joke, and i dont even use armor. I think that ferroscales need a slight buff hp wise (5% ish), but should also have very low fitting costs. Reactive plates should have a lower penalty than other plates (1-2%), and have 1/2/3 hp/s respectively for each tier. Also, they are in need of a lower fitting cost by a lot like ferroscales. Also, armor repairers should be moved to high slots. I currently think it is unfair to armor tankers that shield tankers are able to use both high and low slots to tank their suit, while armor tankers must only use low slots. -proposed buff for armor repairers- move to a high slot, or instead just add a high module that bonuses armor regen -Armor repair, however, should not work while taking fire, in other words, add a 1 sec delay after taking fire to armor repair -OTHER MODULES- kincats should affect strafing speed, codebreakers need a lower cpu/pg cost
VEHICLES I wont even start trying to balance vehicles, there have been far too many threads on this topic already
DROPSUITS When 1.8 comes around, we really are going to see some great new things from all suits. The sentinel gets its huge damage reduction, scouts get more modules, moer equipment, and a cloak to boot. commandos are huge dps dealers, and logis will actually perform their roles, and have gotten huge buffs to equipment usage. Overall, though assault and logi stats arent out yet, they seem very balanced, but give m scouts a lot more base speed, and logi/assaults more base HP
EQUIPMENT AND GRENADES The grenades are good, except for core locus and thukker. The core needs a slightly lower blast radius, and the thukker needs a small blast radius (packed at the most), but more damage (in the 400-500 range). Equipment seems to be good overall, as the active scanner is being turned into usable in only the way it is supposed to be used. I just want to see equipment spam being stopped, perhaps by having the limit for things like uplinks be for the total deployed, not the total deployed of each type.
did i forget anything?
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I know
It needs some recognition
sorry to spam it but i can't really help. What did you think?
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Driftward wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I know It needs some recognition sorry to spam it but i can't really help. What did you think? How about we keep that ridiculous post out of this thread? If you really have to, post a link and describe what you linked to, then if anyone actually gives a **** THEN they can go and read your insane (and poorly formatted) wall of text.
Its poorly formatted because of the character cap, sorry. The links in my sig bro. I just wanted to post it so you guys could give me some feedback of some sort about what you think
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Matticus Monk wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I know It needs some recognition sorry to spam it but i can't really help. What did you think? I think that I have already responded, as did a few others. The way conversations work is that when you start one, and others participate, the original person builds on the idea.... Instead of going back and saying the same thing they originally started the conversation with in the first place. Am I being a jerk, here? Maybe. But what are you being for kicking **** around our house? This barbershop doesn't clean itself, man....
Then ******* politely ask me to delete it, its not that ******* hard, stop calling my post **** unless you would enjoy it if i called your posts **** and then asked you to remove them. ******* ask politely its not that hard.
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Driftoward wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Driftward wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I know It needs some recognition sorry to spam it but i can't really help. What did you think? How about we keep that ridiculous post out of this thread? If you really have to, post a link and describe what you linked to, then if anyone actually gives a **** THEN they can go and read your insane (and poorly formatted) wall of text. I was trying to avoid saying that. But I won't say I disagree with you Drift I didn't have coffee this morning and just wasted my lunch hour on a boring ass mandatory seminar that didn't even feed us. No patience today. Sorry for not being sorry....
Its fine, I'm just frustrated that i spent so much time and energy on this one topic, having the false illusion that people would talk about it and use it as factors that they could suggest for balancing, as well as bumping it for recognition by CCP
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Matticus Monk wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Then ******* politely ask me to delete it, its not that ******* hard, stop calling my post **** unless you would enjoy it if i called your posts **** and then asked you to remove them. ******* ask politely its not that hard.
Edited - for the sake of being a nice guy. :) --- Ghost. Dude, if I was cool enough to invent that - I wouldn't be talking about going to work!!
You simply said that I was "kicking **** around your house", I assumed referring to my post, which i took as an insult. If you didn't mean it as such, i sincerely apologize, and will edit my anger filled post that you quoted to say that I apologize.
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:2 Pistols wrote: there are no good AE scouts they all suck anyways where are the top scouts is shotty go bang good
Shotty GoBang is biomassed
no he's not. I played with him today
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so after playing for the first time in a month, I had 4 matches in a row were i lost iso using adv min scout, and had a ****** KD, but by the end of the day i was going an average of 2.5 kills per deathGǪ.And i just remembered how OP the rail rifle is
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:2 Pistols wrote: there are no good AE scouts they all suck anyways where are the top scouts is shotty go bang good
Shotty GoBang is biomassed no he's not. I played with him today God damn it you ruined it It's Ok but you should know, that I know that I know ,
Oh sorry
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yes! now for 514 pages
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Minmitar melee weapon
CCP just released the concept art for new melee weapons!!!!! This is the minmitar one!!!!
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Minmitar melee weaponCCP just released the concept art for new melee weapons!!!!! This is the minmitar one!!!! Needs more duct tape.
I really hope the scout gets its bonus changed to something like "5% bonus to RRRRRRRRRRRRR sound per level"
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since when has there been a SMG nerf!!??
The magsec already outdoes it in every way, i don't see why they want to nerf it now tooGǪ..
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Lucifalic wrote:they mentioned that the RR and some other rifles and smg might be getting a look over. Most likely a small damage nerf... Hopefully its not alot or else im really gonna want a repec to spec into pistols (or nk).
Sucks
It doesn't make sense thoughGǪ.the MAgsec is already better in every wayGǪ.
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Llast 326 wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Hey Monk it's Oz, haha ur right, got banned again, least that remote nerf thread got removed tho, TOOK ONE FOR THE TEAM HAHA, damn we gotta Bounty these trolls that post these stupid nerf threads then report you once you make them look dumb.
Second ban I've got, both for defending RE nerf threads, meh ah well OZZIES on probation Doin time for the team o7 Interestingly, i suspect someone is going to hate REs even more soon That NK SCOUT is going down! Bomb him , stab him , shotty him, run him over and drop ship squish him! Can't believe he reported Oz..... Well I can actually, gave it to him pretty hard haha
Yeah, he's starting to **** me offGǪ..i doubt he's an NK scout, as all he talks about is how underpowered tanks are
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Patrick57 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Yeah, he's starting to **** me offGǪ..i doubt he's an NK scout, as all he talks about is how underpowered tanks are He's some awful player in The Phoenix Federation that wanted to join AE.....but said he didn't have a Proto suit. It's that guy's alt for the Shinobi event. makes senseGǪ.idk why anyone would wanna join those big corps personallyGǪ.get a tight little corp like mine, were super close knit
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I made a parody thread in general discussions making fun of NK ScoutGǪ.check it out
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hey guys i made a new thread, so if you want to help support shield and armor parity, click here and comment your opinions https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142349&find=unread
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What do you guys think about these changes to shield extenders and armor plates?
STD: (85 armor, 3 PG, 10 CPU) vs (44 shields, 2 PG, 15 CPU) ADV: (110 armor, 6 PG, 22 CPU) vs (58 shields, 4 PG, 30 CPU) PRO: (135 armor, 12 PG, 34 CPU) vs (72 shields, 7 PG, 54 CPU)
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Matticus Monk wrote:voidfaction wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about these changes to shield extenders and armor plates?
STD: (85 armor, 3 PG, 10 CPU) vs (44 shields, 2 PG, 15 CPU) ADV: (110 armor, 6 PG, 22 CPU) vs (58 shields, 4 PG, 30 CPU) PRO: (135 armor, 12 PG, 34 CPU) vs (72 shields, 7 PG, 54 CPU) I don't like it. They should remove armor and shield mods because I don't use them and only make it harder for me to kill everyone else. Now seriously it looks fine but I wouldn't know if that is buffing or nerfing either since I don't use them. I don't pay too much attention to the CPU/PG cost of the modules now, but I'd really like it if they would just make the ADV shield modules give 44 shield instead of 33.
I actually scaled these new modules the way armor is scaled based off of a baseline 72 hp at proto shields. They are scaled the same way armor is currently scaled.
glad you guys like it!! if you want to support my cause in getting shields the recognition for a buff that they deserve, please support my thread in general discussion entitled "An easy fix to the shield and armor disparity"
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soGǪwhen this thread hits 514 pages, what do we do?
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i haven't been able to play for the last 3 events because my ps3 has had YLOD, and it has it again nowGǪGǪsomebody pity me
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holy ****, one more pageGǪ...
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what would you guys feel about racial shotguns to complement the new racial scouts?
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mollerz wrote:noob spaceman wrote:Two many names for different towns or football clubs here in England. Its just now oi you wanker preceded by a light maiming or murder I have a real good buddy that got a free ride at Loughborough Uni playing rugby. He still has a piece of chisel stuck in his nose from when the docs were fixing it after it was broken for the 4th time or so lol at the UK. America is where real football is played
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man this troll post is hilarious
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Matticus Monk wrote:mollerz wrote: Didn't Suzuki make newer 750s with a switch that let you go from 750CCs to 600?
I hear you on the liter bike.. too heavy and way too fast :) 600s are way funner imho, and hell.. after all the aftermarket parts I may as well have a liter bike. If you guys get something going for motoGP down in laguna seca I'd ride down!
Most of the newer bikes come with the engine map selector switch which will switch the software to map different air/fuel/timing parameters to limit the output of the bike. Usually they go mode "A" for no electronic intervention, mode "B" for same top end power but with less output in lower RPM ranges for slower acceleration, and mode "C" for it's raining and I only need 70 HP..... And a lot of newer liter bikes have traction control now... but I'd rather just have a good 600 or a 750 and own. Light is right and skill > electronic riding gizmos! I've never made it to Laguna... I always seem to be working but if I do I'll let you know! Been to Moto GP Indy. It was awesome! Come to think of it, I went with a fellow-scout...! -- Back on topic -- that invisible shotgunner post is really scary... I'm in awe that he thinks current scouts are OP. A few scout teams are seriously talented, but i doubt very many individual scouts are OP. Sure, a few. The suit sure isn't.... the play style sure isn't. Yeah idk what to think. The fact that he thinks that speed tanking in its current iteration is OP goes to show something, but idk what it is
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Brokerib wrote:Matticus Monk wrote: that invisible shotgunner post is really scary... I'm in awe that he thinks current scouts are OP. A few scout teams are seriously talented, but i doubt very many individual scouts are OP. Sure, a few. The suit sure isn't.... the play style sure isn't.
Through taking part in the heavies event I'm starting to understand why there's this misconception on the relative OPness of scouts. Had a match where I kept running up against a shotgun scout who was quite good. I think he got me three times out of five while I was running a 1200 EHP heavy, and two of those were from full health. He was able to get up close as soon as my back was turned from quite a distance, even though I was constantly scanning, and by the time I'd turned around to respond to the blasts to the back of the head I'd already be into armor. Added to that, once I could see him, he was so close that he would effectively be standing inside my arc of movement and maintaining a track was difficult. I can see how this could appear to be lag/rendering issue to someone, even though the reality was just exploiting the limited field of view and his speed and willingness to get up close an personal The funny thing is, as a strat, this would be just as effective with a medium suit if they were willing to run up and stand next to a heavy/medium to get the kill. Most scout use binary fits, where you either very rapidly overwhelm the opposition, or very rapidly die. People only remember the rapid overwhelming bit because they think it shouldn't be possible from a suit that falls apart if you frown at it, and not how easy it is for them to kill a scout if they catch them out. that pretty accurately sums it up
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i posted on the dudes thread about showing him some ninja tactics that we use to remain invisible and unhittableGǪ.i hope that will clear up the problem
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I do SUCK wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote:You have Embraced the Death Yeaaahhh, I know what you mean, too. Only trouble is..... I think I embrace it a little TOO much, as scout. Playing 'ninja heavy' this week, has done wonders for my KDR Its kinda funny what you can do, when you have scout tactics, scout stealth, scout see-through-walls-they-cant-see-you.... but you also have 1,000 HP Quil ur heavy will never nova knife me again u got lucky you got nova knifed by a heavy? wow, you do SUCK
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I do SUCK wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I do SUCK wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote:You have Embraced the Death Yeaaahhh, I know what you mean, too. Only trouble is..... I think I embrace it a little TOO much, as scout. Playing 'ninja heavy' this week, has done wonders for my KDR Its kinda funny what you can do, when you have scout tactics, scout stealth, scout see-through-walls-they-cant-see-you.... but you also have 1,000 HP Quil ur heavy will never nova knife me again u got lucky you got nova knifed by a heavy? wow, you do SUCK No he just turned around when I was nova knifen him and stabbed me wher u using keyboard quil? excuses excuses
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Add to the history that CCP Wolfman told us "Scout's Dev hugs are coming Soon" in 1.2, and we've anticipated it since.
1.4: are the dev hugs here yet? Oh. No. I see you made rotation speed the same for all suits. That's the opposite of a hug. Oh more armor for everyone? That's not gonna hurt the speed tankers...
1.5: are the dev hugs here yet? Oh. No. I see you gave WPs for Active Scanners. That's another pot shot isn't it? Better run a dampener on every suit I guess. Oooh, Aim Assist? Well, my shotgun is actually hitting people almost every time now... but every single bullet is killing me. Awesome. (exodus of scouts happened here. Noteable scouts left, some never to return, other only coming pack in 1.7 after AA was toned down *cough* xVx *cough*)
1.6: are the dev hugs here yet? Um... 6 meter scan range buff? CCP that is the blue-balls of buffs. Not only that but you just gave every heavy an extra 150HP. Now everyone is just gonna use a light weapon with a heavy suit. . .(Lo and behold, that is exactly what happened) Not like the abundantly high HP already made killing people in a scout suit difficult. 1.6.1: Oh. I see you fixed the HMG's bullet dispersion and buffed the HMG on top of that. Good thing you gave them that extra HP and a better weapon. 1.6.1: 1.7 patch notes and dev blog announced. Shotty GoBang dies a little on the inside.
1.7: are the dev... Oh wait. already knew it. Nope. mid 1.7: Scout buff announced in December along with cloak. People start investing in Scout suits preemptively expecting them to be awesome. CCP takes a month off for new years. comes back for 2 weeks. takes another month off for Chinese New Year. Immigration of Scouts as a 3x SP event happens, shinobi event, and now mauler event. Post Scout Buff announcement newbies claim to be OG scouts for skilling into them before 1.8 rather than suffering through the worst of it. Been a scout since 1.4, never going back to my old amarr logi suit
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who here thinks that the minmitar scout movement/sprint speed stats are rather low at the moment for 1.8?
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:who here thinks that the minmitar scout movement/sprint speed stats are rather low at the moment for 1.8? Not particularly, especially as we might actually be able to fit kincats really happily now. nopeGǪnot with extenders anywaysGǪ.were only getting 80 pg at max fitting skills. 3 extenders and 2 kincats+1 damp =63 pg eaten out of your fit. fitting a basic cloak costs 9 pg, so now you're down to 8 pg left. Maybe add in a shotgun and SMG, because knives are unfittalbe with any sidearm other than PLC or flay lock
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so I'm getting a new ps3 on wednesday, and for the first time in like 2 isn weeks (maybe three idk) ill be able to play dust again DOes anyone here want to squad with me?
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mollerz wrote:Appia Nappia wrote: When PC was introduced we had a minimum of 8million SP to join. Later it was bumped to 17M. After 24M you have the SP to have 2 weapons maxed out, all the dropsuit upgrade skills and 1 proto suit. It's really hard to be a dedicated scout in PC, but the maps that it works one, it is amazing and fun and I wish I didn't have all the SP I do because I have to be responsible for roles that aren't as fun rather than only being in games where my favorite style fits the map.
Just had to.. it was too damn easy! lol
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Appia Vibbia wrote:mollerz wrote:Appia VIbbia wrote: When PC was introduced we had a minimum of 8million SP to join. Later it was bumped to 17M. After 24M you have the SP to have 2 weapons maxed out, all the dropsuit upgrade skills and 1 proto suit. It's really hard to be a dedicated scout in PC, but the maps that it works one, it is amazing and fun and I wish I didn't have all the SP I do because I have to be responsible for roles that aren't as fun rather than only being in games where my favorite style fits the map.
Just had to.. it was too damn easy! Listen! I hate using my OP Rail Rifle with Gallente Logi with boundless remote explosives, boundless proximity mines, allotek nanohive, and ishukone gauged dropuplinks with a 40m scan radius and 26 dB precision. It's so effective and not fun at all. Or my ishukone assault rail rifle with 3 damage mods that can 1v1 a proto heavy with proto HMG and kill him within 5m then run back and heal with those 70hp/sec rep hives. Oh you poor nyan appia you...
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Appia Vibbia wrote:You clearly don't understand the woes of having 6 proto suits and 10 proto weapons. nope. you poor thing. if you need any help to overcome this tragedy...I know something that will help
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A conservative shotgun buff. Tell me if you like it, think its too conservative, or think its OP
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Appia Nappia wrote:Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you. Why? because the reticle is very difficult to gauge, especially when inside of the reticle there is only a certain unmarked radius that actually hits the enemy.
And actually several scouts do agree with me, Djinn marauder and one other i can't remember actually made a video addressing this issue.
All your posts are ill conceived and represent a complete lack of fore thought on your behalf, as well as an overly aggressive stance towards attacking anyone whose viewpoints differ in any way from your own, without actually taking into account the gravity of their suggestions.
In other words, shut the **** up you stupid **** ill fuckin kill you in real life if you try to talk **** to me like that
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Well if you want me to back off then she/he better **** off because this happens with everything i post, and its fuckin annoying and if someone did talk to me like that in real life instead of being a pu$sy, i would hurt them. So to appia, don't fuckin comment on anything i post again
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mollerz wrote:But what about my hilarious self deprecating meme? i loled
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you. Why? because the reticle is very difficult to gauge, especially when inside of the reticle there is only a certain unmarked radius that actually hits the enemy. And actually several scouts do agree with me, Djinn marauder and one other i can't remember actually made a video addressing this issue. All your posts are ill conceived and represent a complete lack of fore thought on your behalf, as well as an overly aggressive stance towards attacking anyone whose viewpoints differ in any way from your own, without actually taking into account the gravity of their suggestions. Stopped there and you would have been fine Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: other words, shut the **** up you stupid **** ill fuckin kill you in real life if you try to talk **** to me like that Here is where you crossed the line dude Yes, Appia disagrees with you, and yes in a less than diplomatic way. You want to drag hollow real world threats into something this trivial? As far as the SG fix goes: The way the shotgun suffers in my opinion is that it's reticule does not match it's firing area across it's range. Less dispersion as Appia prefers means that more pellets land in a concentrated area, (essentially throwing slugs instead of scatter) This means the existing damage model is effective, but the reticule should change to reflect it. Greater dispersion would require more damage, either through a damage increase per pellet, or an increase in the amount of pellets thrown. If this cover the reticule in a meaningful way then the SG would have less problems, I think. Why is it always the SG that starts things around here ok fine. i got kinda mad but i didn't threaten. I said what i would do if someone said something like that to me in real life
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I have said this before regarding another fued between scouts. Take your sht to the locker room or the war room. We don't need or want this here.
Also, Gav, although I do not condone how Appia responded to your post you did just threaten to kill her "in real life." Good luck not getting banned from a post like that even if it was not your intention to word it as such.
this is the locker roomGǪjust saying. and I'm fairly certain its not a threat, but whatever. if they ban me idc it don't matter to me. it feels good to say stuff back to someone talking **** to you over and over
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in all honesty, id be surprised if she didn't report me
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Appia Nappia wrote:I would post in your thread, but you've shown time and time again that when someone criticizes your ideas that rather than discussing why they don't agree, you choose to ignore them. Maybe from you because your posts consist of "No. You are stupid"
This makes me consider you either as a.) a troll b.) not actually having a good reason why the ideas should not be implemented
Therefore, due to your lack of creativity or inability to elaborate, you don't deserve a response
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guess who is now unbanned?
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:guess who is now unbanned? Rage war dog. ......what it's true. man all these great guessesGǪ.come on guys your so close!
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:guess who is now unbanned? Thermonuclear warfare? We have a winner!
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Asha Starwind wrote:Spademan wrote:By the way, took out two tanks today. The first was a lone effort that involved 3 poxy mines, 3 swarm volleys and, the killing hit, 1 av grenade.
The second came barrelling around a corner backwards after retreating so I panic-switched and flaylocked it up the exhaust pipe. (Or where an exhaust pipe would be if it had one) That second one reminded me of times gone by. I wonder what goes through these pilot's minds when they see that they've been taken out by small arms fire. This is my translation-as/dfas/ligha;etASGJAE:RghawADADJFaasldfuaSDFaDfadjsdfaDSFASDGEAOORWELGSDNASDFKASfasdflaugajskflaewrahwlg/sdg;afsdgfajlsfgasdfancasldfiowrqiegjhsnvmzasdfhalksdfasdfhaljsdfw
THE FLAYLOCK IS OP!!!!!!!!
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Brokerib wrote:Just curious, as I'm sure this has come up previously, has anyone tested Nova Knife effectivness against HAVs and LAVs? The idea of a squad of cloaked knife scouts surrounding and stabbing a tank into submission appeals to me greatly. it does no damage. I used to enjoy trolling pre-1.7 tankers by jumping on top of them and nova knifing their hulls. It does 0 damage
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best troll move--Jihad dropship
Allah al ackabar mutherfuckers!!!!!
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LeGoose wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:guess who is now unbanned? Who's got 2 thumbs and doesn't care? This guy! Mostly because you state you are now unbanned from the forums and then go and make a ridiculous troll post like this which will likely get you banned again for trolling. Congrats What?! that wasn't a troll post. I was dead serious
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mollerz wrote:Brokerib wrote:Just curious, as I'm sure this has come up previously, has anyone tested Nova Knife effectivness against HAVs and LAVs? The idea of a squad of cloaked knife scouts surrounding and stabbing a tank into submission appeals to me greatly. You used to be able to damage tanks with knives an eon ago. I can't remember which build, but its been a looong time. I haven't tested it in 1.8, but you can possibly still (worked as of 1.7) knife a driver out of an LAV by swiping the driver's side door. I made a thread about knives being able to damage tanks and the community **** their pants, lit the torches, and passed out the pitchforks. I've knifed drivers out of a moving LAV trying to run me over with Zn's before. Makes you feel like a ******* boss
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Why don't you guys just decide to make the hacking bonus innate...? That way it seems like only 2 bonuses, but you're really getting 3, except the hacking is available at all levels (helps newbies, etc)
I really like active dampening idea, as its not cookie cutter like the gal scout bonus, but still makes the minja PC viable The suggestion to make hacking an innate bonus on the Min was passed onto CCP, so we may see it happen. cool cause that would really help. In place of that id like to see a few bonuses #1- Active cloak dampening bonus (no numbers yet) #2- 1-2% to move speed #3- 10% biotic bonus per level
These are in order
Also, you guys like how i just got 500 likes?
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: Then convince everyone to let the Min Scout have 3 bonuses.
Dude. Rattati just came in here and told us that he wants to give AM, GA, and CA one bonus each, and that he wants to make Minmatar faster. By my math, we're no longer is it 2 bonuses compared to 3. GA: Profile CA: Precision AM: Range MN: Hacks, Knives, SpeedAdd Active Dampening bonus to MN for an 4:1? I can't sell that, Ghost. What did rattati say?
Or at least what page is it so that i can find it?
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
Or at least what page is it so that i can find it?
Read the past 3 or 4 pages. I've unblocked you, by the way :-) Sounds good
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Adipem Nothi wrote:PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:Mouth agape, he lets rip a wall rattling fart.
Let's tackle that flatulence, piece by piece:Wrong: Cloaking is fixed now ... Reality: Cloak was rendered largely ineffective for Scouts with insufficient lows to stack damps. Wrong: A delay before you switch weapons might be fine ... [snip] Reality: Fire-from-cloak is no longer at issue; weapon switch speed has nothing to do with cloak. Wrong: No one likes a shot gunner scout. Reality: If you're over 500HP, he could've used a Fine Rifle to kill you faster at far less risk and greater range. Wrong: Im tired of my hacking miny getting slayed by calds all the time. Reality: The CalScout's squadmates pose far greater threat. Wrong: If you want to shoot people all do go play cod... Reality: Aren't you the guy who complains about tanks no longer being invincible? And like monkeys writing Shakespeare ...Reality: assault need more attention they get replaced by logis and commands and heck even scouts all the time. Reality: assault need more attention they get replaced by logis and commands and heck even scouts all the time. Wrong: I know you think scouts are fine ... [snip] Reality: Name one person here who thinks that Scouts are fine. Wrong: Now you cald slayers can get on here and say go " QQ " somewhere else ... [snip] Reality: You're in the wrong bar if you're looking "slayer" CalScouts who wish to remain OP. Wrong: [snip] ... you should have to take off that 400 shield ... to light up the whole map like a Christmas tree. Reality: Wardens* run 2-4 precision enhancers and 1-2 range extenders; they have little room for HP. *These are exceptionally good at detecting and beating back droves of idiot darkspawn. They also excel at thinning the ranks of FoTM chasing scrubbery. Oh snap.
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voidfaction wrote:Brokerib wrote:voidfaction wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Why don't you guys just decide to make the hacking bonus innate...? That way it seems like only 2 bonuses, but you're really getting 3, except the hacking is available at all levels (helps newbies, etc)
I really like active dampening idea, as its not cookie cutter like the gal scout bonus, but still makes the minja PC viable The suggestion to make hacking an innate bonus on the Min was passed onto CCP, so we may see it happen. does that mean I should be asking for innate 45m range for my gal scout since we are being reduced to 1 bonus and only have 1 innate HP/s bonus? Only 1/hp a second repair and the ability to maintain passive invisibility while using a standard suit? Quick, someone buff the Gal, they're about to become unplayable! Seriously Void, advocate for what ever you want. But maybe consider balance class wide when you do so instead of focusing on one suit over another. The Minmatar and Amarr are underperforming across the board, and CCP has the usage stats to back it up. They need a fix to even out scout usage between all 4 racial variants. If you don't have any suggestions to help with that, then work with the rest of us to keep the Gal viable while we try to get the Min and Amarr get up to speed. I am. Min already have more innate bonuses than all the scouts and still wanting 4 racial bonuses to go with it. I mean come on. cal is about to be stick with 1 precision and what? shield recharge, lol amar what about them. Do you think of anything other than the poor poor minmatar. oh cry min has to use 3 dampeners and a proto cloak. cry cry cry cal with pricision can hide from nothing and is forced to stay in a corner with a squad guarding them. min scout want to be the do all solo class. yeah i run gal for the dampening nothing stoping anyone else from doing the same. I would be in a min suit if they would drop the STUPID single weapon bonus and I would run it with 3 dampeners. when im in my cal scout i run 2 dampeners and I dont cry cry cry like a minmatar because i cant hide from tac-net because I chose to use it knowing its weakness to tac-net ....I don't know what to say anymore.
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Adipem Nothi wrote: 'Deadpool' Minmatar. All i saw
Also, if were weighing in on bonuses for the scouts when charlie comes out, id like-
AM-5% scan range per level GA-X% profile dampener efficacy per level CA-X% scan precision per level (hopefully less than 5) MIN-X% to cloak dampening bonus per level (Bors idea)
This also includes a slight speed buff for min (love it Rattati), and making hacking innate. Also, Ammar should get stamina bonus as innate as well
Also, id like it if the min bonus worked so that 1 damp+one proto cloak with maxed skills could dodge a 3 but not 4 precision cal scout, that way there is one slot for a codebreaker and one for a kin cat. IDK what would be balanced for gal, but if we balance the top statement first, it'll be easier to balance the gal scout IMO. I think 2 damps on a gal should= full invisibility to all except gallogi focused, and add an ADV or PRO cloak and you can dodge that too.
Just my input guys, tear it apart as need be.
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voidfaction wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:voidfaction wrote: you wanting to nerf cal precision so you can run 1 or no dampeners on a minmatar is all i see.
@ Void Time to unbunch them panties and pay closer attention. I'm no 'deadpool' minmatar advocate. I run Gal and Cal, and my sole interest is finding a path to four viable, balanced Scouts. Low Range / High Precision won't serve much purpose for the Cal. I'd much prefer to see my CalScout get some value out of running Range Extenders in its lows. I'll be able to work around not seeing every Scout. But trying to sneak around being squishy, slow, undampened and blind to bogeys well within fine rifle range? That's the wreck I'm hoping to avoid. You not making cal a scout by forcing range extenders in the lows with efficacy bonuses. as all you min keep saying over and over again. being on tac-net makes them useless. your making cal even more useless as the cal only has 2 lows and you want them to only have 1 bonus and the only way to get that one bonus is to use the 2 low slots for range. no more room for dampeners. no reason to have a cloak either. hey i have an idea lets just call them the scout logi because they have 2 free eq slots as they dont need a useless cloak. we done have the amarr scout assault. now if we can just find a new place for the gal so us min scouts can be the scout scout. what can we make the gal? oh oh i know how about a scout sentinal since hey we got all the room for armor now that we dont need dampeners no more. yeah that fits well. scout sentinal. when do we get our heavy weapon slot? Ill say it every day untill min porposal has efficacy bonuse set on min the same as the rest of the scouts. you want to force our role then force the min role. efficacy to hacking NK's, speed and all the other innate min bonuses they get. If your going to take away the cal precision then they need to be able to dampen to 14 the same as the other 3 scouts period. if your going to foce roles with efficacy so be it with all 4 of them not just the non min period. The bonus to speed and hacking is the same as me saying that caldari scouts have a bonus to shield recharge, shield recharge delay, and HP. Its so ridiculous, idk what to say.
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I actually think personally that range for cal and precision for amarr would be so perfectly balanced, as it makes the min-maxing that people do so much less invalidating of other scouts
So +1 to this Rattati
this was for previous discussion so sorry if its irrelevant
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I actually think personally that range for cal and precision for amarr would be so perfectly balanced, as it makes the min-maxing that people do so much less invalidating of other scouts
So +1 to this Rattati Only, you do realize that with those changes a Gal-Scout can get away with only using a single profile dampener again, right? That was the origin of this whole kerfuffle. hmmm forgot about that....what about a 4 precision cal?
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:mollerz wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:
In fact, if backpedal speed were slowed down, I'd even be okay with losing the Minmatar Scout bonus to knife damage.
That's the only problem I had with your take. I don't think you realize how much that bonus makes the difference. Try using only Zns amongst proto enemies. You'll see what I mean. Oh, I know - I didn't immediately get IshNoks, I ran around wiht ZN's for a good month if I didn't have cash for Aurum laying around. They're worlds apart over STD knives, and worlds below proto knives. The thing is, I didn't see anyone crying out for more damage, but everybody seems to be like "Stupid Minjas, you want everything, blahblahblah." The suit bonus DOES make a nice difference, and I'm not saying I'd be happy to lose it... but if I had to swallow it for a compromise, I'd figure out how to get 2x complex sidearm damage mods in there. If by everybody you mean void faction, i agree
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RedPencil wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Yes, cal get range.
I think backpedallng slower does not have widespread support internally. I also don't understand why you need it, min scout base speed is already higher than all others, so who is it you can't catch while backpedaling? Can you increase walking speed when equip knife? That would actually be great as it would give knives a huge advantage in CQC over what they have now without reducing the fine rifle community's crutc....er....backpedal speed
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: That would actually be great as it would give knives a huge advantage in CQC over what they have now without reducing the fine rifle community's crutc....er....backpedal speed
I'd be OK with knifers being at less of a disadvantage. Huge advantages tend to be abused ... and then nerfed. Fairly certain that we don't want a huge advantage, Gav. By huge advantage, i mean relative to what we have no, which is a huge disadvantage
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est-qu'il y a une code de beta Destiny pour le PS3?
est le beta Destiny seulement pour le PS4?
Parce-que je veux jouer ce jeu, mais j'ai besoin de PS4 parce-que je ne veux pas l'acheter. donc, est-ce qu'on peut acheter un code beta Destiny pour le PS3?
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Genius idea- Make the ammar scout layout 1-5, then give it the precision bonus to a point so that 1 complex precision+ bonus balances everything...thoughts?
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:est-qu'il y a une code de beta Destiny pour le PS3?
est le beta Destiny seulement pour le PS4?
Parce-que je veux le jouer, mais j'ai besoin de PS4 parce-que je ne veux pas l'acheter. donc, est-ce qu'on peut acheter un code beta Destiny pour le PS3?
^^Sans utiliser google translate Oui c'est pour PS3, PS4, XBoits. Votre fran+ºais est bien, mois je parle meilleur que j'+¬crit Merci
Moi aussi, je parle beaucoup mieux que j'+¬crit (mieux=better, meilleure=best) donc, si nous serions dans la meme groupe je veux parler avec toi
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Je vais m'arr+¬ter ici ce. En fran+ºais!
sc+¿ne:
Les morts de la nuit, dans une rue calme sombre un chiffre solo dans un chapeau et de manteau de foss+¬ marche seul, +¬clair+¬e seulement par les n+¬ons des b+ótiments au-dessus de lui. Graffiti dense couvre les murs ... +á un point, puis brusquement s'arr+¬te. Peu de temps avant est une porte solitaire au milieu des murs non-marqu+¬s. Un petit sceau rouge et blanc est le seul affichage sur la porte, le rouge pourrait +¬tre du sang s+¬ch+¬, le blanc est plus d+¬concertant.
L'+¬tranger frappe deux fois.
La porte s'ouvre dans l'obscurit+¬, comme l'+¬tranger p+¬n+¿tre dans le +¬tincelant reflet d'un nombre impair de yeux scintillent en arri+¿re +á lui. Comme il marche encore dans ses yeux commencer +á ajuster comme il prend dans ses environs. C'est un bar, faiblement +¬clair+¬e par de petites bougies, br++ler quoi, il n'est pas tout +á fait s++r. Diverses silhouettes aux formes +¬tranges se d+¬placent lentement pr+¿s des murs. Au centre, une petite table est occup+¬e par un homme qui cherche plut+¦t normale face +á l'inconnu. Sirotant son whisky, il pose le verre et les sourires, gestes +á une chaise inoccup+¬e.
L'+¬tranger enl+¿ve son chapeau et se trouve comme il parle
"M. nothi?"
"S'il vous pla+«t, appelez-moi Tireur."
"Je suis venu seul."
"Non, vous n'avez pas"
Tireur gestes +á la barre, o+¦ dans le seul endroit qui pourrait +¬tre consid+¬r+¬e comme bien +¬clair+¬, une personne ob+¿se clairement de porter des v+¬tements trop petits pour lui se tient. Bouche b+¬e, il permet de ripper un pet cliquetis de mur.
Rattati tourne le dos +á Tireur, embarrass+¬.
"D+¬sol+¬"
"Ce sont ces empreintes bleues vous laissez partout, avez-vous essay+¬ d'utiliser un alt? Appia pourrait +¬pargner une douzaine ".
"Non, merci."
"C'est ok si, de nouvelles personnes sont toujours bienvenus ici, le reste vient d'arriver dans, expulser le gaz et laisser. Nous avons appris +á vivre avec elle ".
Rattati sourit.
"Je vois, on m'a dit que vous avez une sorte de document, pour moi?"
"Bien s++r"
Tireur termine son whisky avant d'atteindre sous la table et en tirant un manuscrit, de le placer sur la table et doucement pousser +á travers.
"Beaucoup de travail a +¬t+¬ en cela."
Rattati atteint pour elle avant reculant les taches de sang et des traces de morsures couvrir. H+¬sitant, il pousse doucement du bout des doigts sur la table et dans un sac.
"Merci, je peux revenir si j'ai des questions."
"Chaque fois, vous devriez venir ici plus souvent. Nous vous aimons ici. "
"Je ne sais pas si c'est une bonne chose."
Reprenant son chapeau sur la table, l'+¬tranger fait rapidement son chemin vers la porte et dispara+«t dans la nuit.
Tireur tourne son regard vers le touriste qui est maintenant dirig+¬e vers une porte +á l'arri+¿re de la salle.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est +ºa?"
Le barman, un homme avec un accent +¬trange et un oeil, r+¬pond sans rompre le contact avec les yeux. "Qu'est-ce que la porte, je ne vois pas de porte. C'est une illusion d'optique. Vous +¬tes en +¬tat d'+¬bri+¬t+¬. Il est peint surGÇïGÇï. Choisissez un ".
"Mais ... attendez, quoi?"
Confus le touriste regarde autour de la salle, avant de voir le si+¿ge d+¬sormais vide en face Tireur. Avec un soupir soudain et la rapidit+¬ de mouvement inhabituel pour quelqu'un de sa taille, il court follement hors de la porte, les bras agitant derri+¿re lui en criant.
"Attends-moi!!!!!!!!!!!"
Fin.
Something is bound to get messed up in the google translation, but it looks pretty sexy to me. Votre grammaire est comme ci comme ca et il y a beaucoup de petits fautes, mais je te donne un "A" pour l'effort
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Im going to revert back to english now, as i have something that i really want to get out there-what if we made the ammar scout a 1-5 slot layout, then made the precision bonus as such that it requires 2x complex damps on a gal suit to dodge it (assuming they are using a complex precision in their high slot) or 1x complex damp+PRO cloak, then give min a bonus to cloak dampening bonus such that 1 complex damp+PRO cloak makes them invisible to the ammar??
Thoughts???
Am i making one suit OP? Also, i can't speak about cal suits, so does someone want to tell me how many dampeners it should take to make it balanced for am/cal to dodge amarr scans?
Also, perhaps if we thought about making the active scanner a factor again it may be easier to balance
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This is for all minmitar/amarr loyalists :)
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Any possibility of hitting do over and going back to 1.7? I really mean it. The bonuses made sense. Both scout suits had the dampening bonus, because getting seen as a scout is ******* stupid and having one "stealth scout" is ******* stupid. You're either a "stealth scout" or "not actually a scout" IMHO. Also this idea of having counter scout hunters I don't like either. We called BS when the counter to Tanks was "More Tanks" and I'm calling BS now on the idea of using any scout to counter other scouts. I've warmed a little to the idea of Amarr swapping damp for precision as they're a kinda of bridge between light and medium and they're limited to two highs, and will be vulnerable to a medium with a scanner. But ultimately we can't let them become the radar beacons we currently have. Scout on Scout tended to be blind "ninjas in the dark" fights. The real counter to scouts was a high level scanner and any one spotting a glimpse of you. Even just having people know you're there in the area was a threat so "Some Margin of Error" was a partial counter. This was a concern I had back when the details for 1.8 were announced and was why I waited a month before even trying 1.8. I've generally kept quiet on how much I hate this paradigm we're working with because there's been some support/acceptance of it here from scouts I respect and consider far more experienced that I, so I ran with it and tried to work with it. But I'm watching us just go around and around in circles and it's driving me mad. Yeah we lacked quite a bit in speciality. So one of us getting hacking etc was a decent idea. As far as HP goes everything should be built around fast repping. Perhaps a flat bonus to all rep/recharge modules wouldn't go astray. Maybe I'm just getting frustrated because I'm being told a scout that's hard to scan and has it's own decent passive scans is OP by people who have no idea what I had pre 1.8 because scouts apparently didn't exist back then, the fact that my bread and butter for 6 months was an undampened BPO shotty and that SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED was almost burnt onto my screen meant nothing to them, running that build now is suicide. Or another player that said scouts shouldn't even be consulted on balancing because they "ruined chromosome" despite me not being here at that time, nor that even being relevant. Appia's right, take away the Gal precision and give them such a bonus to range and angle that they'll be the ballirinas of old. People run the passive scan scout build to see medium and heavy frames as well. If your hand held scanner has roughly the same precision but heaps more range then I think people will run it. Gal logis will be forced to not just tank and run a proto scanner to see scouts, forcing scouts to at least dampen. But this issue of losing half of your mod slots to be the invisible bastard you were born to be is bollocks. And I'm saying this as a Gal scout who doesn't have this problem. Also my conversations with folks is making me realise that only 50% of balancing discussions are actually based on the game and the rest is based on player trends. Look at the sudden switch to RE spam late last year, what changed? They were always deadly, but somewhere along the line people noticed it and it became the new Core Locus spam. And we're currently experiencing this with the scout passive scan. And people forgetting that ballarina scans even existed is making me smash my head into the table. So sorry if this seems mis-placed but this whole thing is driving me up the wall and is ultimately the reason why I've stepped away for the time being. I'm not raging at you guys here, I know it's bad for my health but when I set foot out this door and talk to anyone I facepalm. Please don't take this to be an attack on any specific bastards, it's not, but I worry we're trying to polish a turd here. And also apologies, I know this is incoherent rambling, but I'm pulling my hair out and this is the only place I feel I can vent honestly with people who understand even remotely what I'm on about. Preach brother
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Appia Vibbia wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote: 9/10ths of people who play DUST are either blind or mentally unable to piece together what their eyes are seeing.
That's why it works so well.
I seriously have trouble understanding how people complain about being popped from a cloak shotgunner. I'm series when I say I shoot them down first. Unless they get me from behind in which case the cloak didn't matter - or shot me down because they didn't use a cloak in the first place exactly!!!
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear scouts, and I am looking at you Haerr , can you assist me in two ways double check my calculations, because this is pretty complex stuff, and even I can make mistakes and then start thinking about the right bonuses. We really want EWAR to be less binary, so I want to play with bonuses so that a dedicated scout with all slots, can evade even the best precision, but only while cloaked, but the gallente would retain the ability to be unscannable out of cloak. The numbers in the document are just something I was playing around with last night while proof reading the calculations, but they should be correct. Let's iterate on this over the weekend and early next week and see if we can't make it a little better then "ok". EWAR Calculations So you're saying that all scouts should require 2x complex damps to dodge the best scans but only if they use a proto cloak?
No offense intended but that is a poor idea, as it takes away from modules like kin cats or range amps or cardiac regulators that some scouts (myself included) rely upon.
I think the real problem comes down to being able to stack armor plates in the low slots while being unscannable, and id REALLY LOVE if there was a way to increase the speed penalty only for scouts/lights, making it very unnapatizing to use plates, and allowing scouts more freedom in their fittings in a competitive setting. Remember, in a PC match or a pub stomp or a competitive FW match, the best scans are going to be the ONLY scans, and there will be a few dedicated people whose only purpose is to use them at all times, making it necessary to dodge those scans.
By requiring two damps to do so, the min/cal scout will be, pardon my french, screwed in every competitive setting due to their lack of an ability to use any other scoutly modules such as range amps or kin cats. Please reconsider this. If we continue to pursue the idea of a scout being a scout only if they have maxed out skills, can fit a proto cloak (minmitar can't btw if they run PG intensive modules), and completely ignore every EWAR and biotic module or tank module for dampeners.
The real problem is EWAR + Brick tanking. EWAR is what the scout should be best at, so instead of screwing them through EWAR, why don't we nerf the scouts ability to plate stack/shield stack where they should be using range amps or kin cats or cardiac regulators by increasing the speed penalties and delay penalties by two (2) for light frames?
If this happened, suits would look more like these--
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5408 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5409 ---Assumes PG reduction for KinCats http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5410 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5411
If you look at these, none of them have the "pigeonholing" effect that is happening right now, but none of them are "OP" IMHO as they are good at EWAR and being stealthy while knowing where the more assault based frames (medium/heavy) are at all times so they can avoid them or pick them off if they happen to leave the pack.
I'd also really appreciate if you at least told me what you thought on my ideas even if it is harsh and you tell me "No, that would make scouts overpowered."
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I think the real problem comes down to being able to stack armor plates in the low slots while being unscannable, and id REALLY LOVE if there was a way to increase the speed penalty only for scouts/lights, making it very unnapatizing to use plates, and allowing scouts more freedom in their fittings in a competitive setting. Remember, in a PC match or a pub stomp or a competitive FW match, the best scans are going to be the ONLY scans, and there will be a few dedicated people whose only purpose is to use them at all times, making it necessary to dodge those scans.
By requiring two damps to do so, the min/cal scout will be, pardon my french, screwed in every competitive setting due to their lack of an ability to use any other scoutly modules such as range amps or kin cats. Please reconsider this. If we continue to pursue the idea of a scout being a scout only if they have maxed out skills, can fit a proto cloak (minmitar can't btw if they run PG intensive modules), and completely ignore every EWAR and biotic module or tank module for dampeners.
Not entirely true. Min Scout's MAIN role in PC is hacking. We can still do that. Anyone who tries to range amp their min scout is loco. We don't have the precision or the range to do so properly. We lose a bit of slaying ability, but not much. We only lose that Kincat slot to be INVISIBLE. I would much rather be sprinting at 8.31 and be invisible than to be scanned and sprinting at 9.35. Damp > Speed If you don't want to hack, stack shields and damps. You can still slay really well with your shields and weapons. Also: We are getting a PG buff. Remember that. We can totally run what we need to now. It is kind of a shame in an ironic way that the fastest suit can't use biotic modules without ******* itself...
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Appia, Haerr, Mathfolks On the road til Sunday. Would you guys mind double checking Rattati's numbers?
@ Rattati On Cal, 20% per level seems a bit much. A future efficacy bonus value req'd to match these results would be quite high. Also, please ignore Gav :-)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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CCP Rattati wrote:The cloak is there for reference at the bottom.
We can also reduce the dampening bonus of the cloak to zero.
From a "I want all scouts to be unscannable in some way even by sacrificing all slots and cloak" point of view, I think we need to have that discussion. I think we can tune these numbers to an acceptable resolution.
It also removes the waves of opportunity discussion, such as Minja activating cloak to bypass the resident precision scanner at objective. What do you think of making that a ninja thing (the active dampening that is)?
Perhaps if we removed the cloaks dampening and made it minmitar only?
However, the cloak right now is useless outside of reducing scan profile in a competitive environment, or against a team that can see you, as the invisibility really isn't all that great.
Also, If it were possible, i think doubling the speed penalty on plates for scout suits is better than making plates have a profile nerf, as that will be even more severe IMHO. The real reason people brick a scout is because they want a faster assault suit with better scans. IF they are bricking, they don't really care about profile, they just want their speed, smaller hit box, and better scans
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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If we had falloff, the NK or SG scout would still be completely boned....unless the scans worked in pulses so that if they were fast enough they could get in, make the kill, and get out before spotted
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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You know, after reading all of this (and please at least hear me out, this is going to be a bit of a tinfoil hat stretch), what needs to happen is PG/CPU based balancing. There is no other way about it.
Modules will need to be classified into 3 categories-Utility, Light Combat, and Heavy Combat (note: these are just what I'm calling them, they mean absolutely nothing)
Ill try to compile a spreadsheet later for the modules, but the idea is that utility modules require next to nothing to fit, light combat would cost more, and heavy combat a lot more.
From there, scouts would have their fittings severely reduced (but the cloak bonus would increase to 20% per level), assaults/commandos/logis would get a slight buff, and sentinels stay the same.
Scouts would be able to fit mostly utility and some light combat modules, with maxed skills the ratio could be as great as 1:1
Assaults/Logis could fit mostly light combat modules with some heavy and some utility mixed in as well (in equal ratios), probably something like 1:4:2 or 1:3:3
Commandos could fit mostly light and and heavy modules, perhaps occasionally utility and heavy as well. Light and heavy would be 1:1
Sentinels would be able to fit almost all heavy modules with perhaps one light with maxed skills. Ratio would be 4:1
From there, we can completely rebalance the entire CPU/PG system so that scouts can no longer brick without screwing over their fits, in as much the same way that Assaults/Logis/Commandos can't fit a cloak without screwing over their whole fit
Please consider this; I know its very conceptual right now, but if we can get the community to work together, i feel this is the correct direction to move in
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Wow. Leave to do other things to find 100+ notifications. 1.) hfderrtgvcd wrote:
Gallente should beat best precision with one damp and cloak active, all other scouts should reach it with two damps. Also, will you be giving signature penalties to all plates or just complex. I recommend the latter, because otherwise assaults will be impacted negatively.
This is bad and you should feel bad. Allowing scouts to dodge scans WITHOUT using more than 2 modules is bait for the old Gal Problem. With one damp, I can give you a Gal scout with around 700 HP, be invisible, sprint at over 9m/s and run full proto. THIS IS BAD.
2.) Here is the main problem we are trying to address. eWAR. eWAR is in a VERY sorry spot right now, mainly due to the fact that there is no BALANCE to scanning/precision. One is king, and the other is USELESS in these scenarios. IF we have to have one be useless, let's make precision useless. Back in the old days, scouts were nigh impossible to detect to eachother. Scout battles became "Fighting in the Dark". Lots of skill involved. I want to move back to that stage.Scouts can't do their job if scanned. Scouts should not counter scouts. Active Scanners should counter scouts, but in waves of opportunity (Scans being unable to perma-scan). It would follow this: Scout beats heavy (Slow target that is blind to the scout) Heavy beats Med (Tons of HP and DPS.) Med beats scout (Only a bit slower, can dodge scans with damps, and has an HP advantage) Notice how I mention med frames running damps. Meds used to run TONS of damps in PC, due to the fact that they could avoid scouts. This gave them their place in the above statement. Heavies were then PROTECTED by the Med frames. Med frames and heavies engaged each other, with scouts running along the edges of the skirimish and eliminating lone targets and assassinating heavies if they could get away with it. THIS is the goal we should be working towards IMO. I would love to hear a response from you on this Rattati. I would go into detail, but it's dinnertime. EDIT: Playing Tales of Symphonia right now, but will check periodically. Also, if you do this: DON'T forget about the vehicle scanners as well This^^^^
Scouts should not be screwing their fits over to dodge lolpermascan85mcalscouts, they should be balanced by the active scanner. The active scanner should become THE ultimate anti-scout tool, not a cal/amarr scout.
TL;DR Balance scout precision with med/heavy frames, not other scouts,a nd make the active scanner useful again, even against scouts, but never EVER reintroduce perm scans. Make it a "waves of opportunity" with gallogis being the ones generating the largest tide
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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voidfaction wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Fundamentally a problem arises when you have 1 ghost scout and 1 precision scout. Either their bonuses are meaningless or they leave the other scouts in a terrible position.
Unless we declare two of them "Actual Scouts" and the other two "Light Assaults". make 2 precision and 2 ghost, lol Not a bad idea actually
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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taking a step back here....why are we balancing precision as if every player is using a scout....?
Even in a competitive setting, you usually won't have more than 6 on a team, and with assaults getting buffed, that number will be going down even further
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Cat Merc wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:taking a step back here....why are we balancing precision as if every player is using a scout....?
Even in a competitive setting, you usually won't have more than 6 on a team, and with assaults getting buffed, that number will be going down even further Because everyone else is scout food Not for long
Prof 3 CR's and leveling up the min assault for the mega buff they're about to receive. I WILL eat your scouts for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and maybe some for a midnight snack...
Though TBH Ill miss being a speedy SGer/Knifer, but with the way things are turning out, minjas will continue to be boned.
I already have my MLT heavy with republic HMG's, so I'm good to go there if i need a real stay-and-slay fit
Seeing me doesn't matter with that fit if i can gank you before you can come near me.
And, I have eyes so i can see every little "invisible" scout coming from miles away.
Oh well.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again, 2 damps plus a cloak should be all that's needed to dodge the best scanner and best precision out there.
Honestly if it were up to me I'd throw away the gallente's damp bonus and the caldari's precision bonus. No scout suit should have them. Here we are balancing E-War for a 3rd time and the gallente is going to end up OP in some way or whatever scan scout is going to end up OP.
I hate to say it but I miss the days of the scannerinas. This precision v dampening crap we've got going on is ridiculous. Yeah i remember the good ole days...i was a scannerina back then too lol
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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In regards to your fitting Rattati, i (though Im sure many others would feel the same) would like to be able to replace the codebreaker with a kin cat for a more combat oriented fit, and would love PG to work as such. Also, the 1 pg over is only with CR fitting op 5, so with maxed cores you'd be 3 over
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:In regards to your fitting Rattati, i (though Im sure many others would feel the same) would like to be able to replace the codebreaker with a kin cat for a more combat oriented fit, and would love PG to work as such. Also, the 1 pg over is only with CR fitting op 5, so with maxed cores you'd be 3 over Is it? I thought I made sure to set that to 0 I derped, and edited
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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mollerz wrote:Well! Started getting likes from Monk! Poor guy is like 40 pages behind.
Hi monk!
Also, all these n00bscouts reminded me.. Where the hell has quilly been?
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better. And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Something like this
I think that this would be great if we lowered kin cat PG and buffed min scout PG by just a hair
IDK what you think, but IMO that should fit. Its perfect for a quick running city warfare suit
Lets the minja get in, drop a link for the fatties, knife the hacker at Bravo, drop an RE, hack, and get away as soon as he sees the red dots converging on him, dropping a flux on their uplinks as he goes. THAT is what a true minja fit would be like IMO, perhaps replacing the shield with a codebreaker
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better.
And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team I feel like hacking lv 5 affords you plenty of time to hack given a little bit of strategic planning ahead. Plus... Sometimes it's better to get there first, set up shop, and kill the slow scouts. Or even better, the douche lav heavies Thats what my above fit is for
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Cat Merc wrote:Any tips for actually knifing people?
The actual act of putting the knife into the enemy throat? Dont charge and walk behind them-charge the knives in midair after sprint jumping if you're behind.
IF they see you.....run away as fast as you can and pray they have poor aim...or just switch weapons and strafe like a madman. If you're near cover, get behind it, let him follow you and meet him from behind with NK slashes
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Adipem Nothi wrote: * Don't try to stab uparmored Gal-Sentinels (they get a free pass).
Even with prof+minja some gal sents still survive a full charged double hitter...needless to say I'm dead shortly afterwards
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: * Don't try to stab uparmored Gal-Sentinels (they get a free pass).
Even with prof+minja some gal sents still survive a full charged double hitter...needless to say I'm dead shortly afterwards Free passes are f*cking horse-sh*t. /rant ^^^Agreed
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: * Don't try to stab uparmored Gal-Sentinels (they get a free pass).
Even with prof+minja some gal sents still survive a full charged double hitter...needless to say I'm dead shortly afterwards Free passes are f*cking horse-sh*t. /rant It's balanced! Especially that 800 DPS HMG scount OP nurf naow it kil me hevy soot
EDIT: Can we make that ^^^^ our collective anthem for ridiculous "nerf anything that can kill me, I'm a heavy" threads?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: * Don't try to stab uparmored Gal-Sentinels (they get a free pass).
Even with prof+minja some gal sents still survive a full charged double hitter...needless to say I'm dead shortly afterwards Free passes are f*cking horse-sh*t. /rant It's balanced! Especially that 800 DPS HMG 800 DPS? is that republic HMG with no proficiency? LOL
The burst does enough damage in one burst to eat through a 400 eHp gal scout and then myself......that says something...and they complain about the shotgun being OP...you want the SG nerfed, let me use the burst HMG for ONE day
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips? * 2 Damps, 2 KinCats (never, ever run plates). * Sidearm Damage Amp until Prof IV. * Practice jump-charge. Lots of practice. * Always run Proto Knives (no exceptions). * Forget about your KDR; its all about the hunt. * Don't try to stab uparmored Gal-Sentinels (they get a f*cking free pass). * One target at a time; no frontal attacks. - Gallente Scout, NK Proficiency V Wouldn't a cardiac regulator be extremely useful? It certainly allows me to run away for longer lol We did the math a LONG time ago. Stamina < Speed at all distances less than 400m I think the crossover point was somewhere around that distance. At that distance, it was better to run 1 speed 1 stamina rather than 2 speed. They would be useful if jumping took a static amount of stamina (for SGers anyways)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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I was thinking earlier about assaults/commandos and came up with this (not trying to derail the topic at hand, just some input)
Quote:Assaults need a bonus to ganking quickly and regenerating their lower HP pool, commandos to suppressive/long term fire, and rely upon their inherently greater HP pool
Commando-
Role Bonus-5% reload speed per level
A-5% faster cool down on laser weaponry per level, 1% to laser weaponry damage M-+1 to explosive weaponry clip size per level, 1% to explosive/projectile weaponry damage C-5% to range and scope zoom with rail weaponry per level, 1% to rail weaponry damage G-2% to plasma weapon damage/level
Assault-
Role Bonus-+1 armor repair rate per second, +10% shield recharge rate
A-5% reduction to heat build-up laser weaponry M-5% clip size of projectile weaponry C-20% reduction to spool time of rail weaponry G-2% RoF of plasma weaponry
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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mollerz wrote:As an aside-
Adjusting backpedaling speed = adjusting an existing in game mechanic.
Introducing adhesion = adding a completely new untested mechanic.
Gee. What could go wrong?
Talk about over complicating things. By adhesion he just means the auto aim that all fine rifles currently have
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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One Eyed King wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote: What kind of Scout needs damps? Heh, armour tank all day, every day. You fake Scouts blow my mind.
:: scratches head :: Isn't your name on the front page of this thread? How is it that you've come to speak like a tourist? Obvious troll is obvious C'mon guys, this is KNIGHT we're talking about here. Don't take half of what he says seriously Which half do I take seriously? the left half
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out
Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus?
If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome
Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that.
I could do the math, but not feeling it right now
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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mollerz wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:*Smashes open door and stumbles in*
"Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...."
"Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?"
*Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not.*
----Hey Monk!
Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler...
Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade.
I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame:
2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28
No EQs No grenade
KDR = sucktastic Fun = back!
Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. 2x codebreakers or precisions 2x damps+ishnoks+basic SMG+basic clack is my training fit for knives
Also, just a thought--should beating amarr passives with 2x complex damps require or not require a cloak (philosophical, not actual, it currently doesn't)
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EDIT: Im retarted....deleted
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:01:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:*Smashes open door and stumbles in*
"Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...."
"Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?"
*Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not.*
----Hey Monk!
Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler...
Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade.
I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame:
2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28
No EQs No grenade
KDR = sucktastic Fun = back!
Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. 2x codebreakers or precisions 2x damps+ishnoks+basic SMG+basic clack is my training fit for knives Also, just a thought--should beating amarr passives with 2x complex damps require or not require a cloak (philosophical, not actual, it currently doesn't) Min and Amarr will require a cloak, not the Gal or Cal. Hence why standardised reduction on cloaks would be very helpful :-P Yeah i just remembered that....im stupid lol
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:06:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that. I could do the math, but not feeling it right now necessity is greater for the cal than the min. Min std is better off then a cal std even if it is 10% dampening for all tiers of cloak. Depends on what you want to do.
If you're talking from a dampening perspective than you're right-the man with the most lows wins
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:35:00 -
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Oh guys one last quick question before i head out....was the min scout speed buff confirmed by our Rat-like companion?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:36:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I go through moments of M/1 or dragonfly fun. But it's too fucksing proto out there nowadays.
Maybe match making should be a priority. Any kind of matchmaking whatsoever.
Or how bout that lag? I don't know about you guys, but single digit framerate really gets me all hot and bothered. Id like matchmaking with matches for only proto suits, and matches with only basic...thatd be awesome, basic minja for days...wouldnt even have to worry about two damps, i could even use a kin cat!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:40:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Oh guys one last quick question before i head out....was the min scout speed buff confirmed by our Rat-like companion? All I saw of note was the NK changes- all of which are for people who never use knives. Oh and a minuscule PG bump (undisclosed as of so far), as well as a slight codebreaker/kin cat PG reduction. Oh wait- there will be an NK fitting op skill- so there's that as well. Oh, and CBs are staying low slot for nowever. So basically- the speed boost looks like it is solely in the form of the ability to possibly fit more kin cat.
****
Compared to the amarr scout were getting nothing oh well i won't even be playing for a few weeks
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:42:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Hey, if Charlie fulfills all of our hopes and dreams... Can we put Rattati on the honorary wall as well? High pitched squeaky voice: Can I be on the wall guys? Please? Come on guys!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:46:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:**** Compared to the amarr scout were getting nothing oh well i won't even be playing for a few weeks hey.. at least it didn't get worse! lol. such is the way of the minja. Well, its better than i thought it'd be, (which isn't saying anything at all), but I still feel inferior to all other scout suits at anything under two meters on a stationary target (terminals included)
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Spademan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I couldn't give less ***** about the FOTM, I run repper Gal Assault with Duvolle and Ion Pistol You are now my favourite cat. The Ion Pistol killed me so many times. And yet I still carry it. MY GALLENTE PRIDE SHALL NOT BE HURT! The most kills you get with the ion pistol are on yourself....
Though, to be fair, it isn't as bad as the flay lock. The IP is hit-scan, and ADS isn't actually that bad unless you charge and get that ridiculous shaking
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:39:00 -
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What do you guys think about making the hacking bonus for the minja innate and adding a cloak damp bonus?
Like enough so that you can get under passives scans with 1 damp and a cloak, but need 2 damps+ cloak for a gallogi focused?
ID really like this with code breakers remaining low slots, as it gives us more utility, and brick tanking wouldn't be a problem (plates with speed penalties=retarted on a min scout, and you'd need another slot for a rep per)
The only thing it would do is make it so that the minja could run 2 kin cats 2 code breakers or one of each while avoiding passives, and if they get gallogi'd they could still run a range amp or something to try to find him, or a kin cat for faster searching, or a codebreaker to hack the depot he's camping
Thoughts? Is it game breaking? (Remember the only effect this will have is opening up another low for minjas, as they already require the cloak to get under passives)
This is a good change IMO as it gives all scouts an aspect of eWAR not just three of them. Splits the pie a little more evenly.
Remember, brick tanking on a min scout is not a problem (or possible ), and fitting ranges in the lows means that you lose shields to make them effective, so it would be balanced.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:45:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about making the hacking bonus for the minja innate and adding a cloak damp bonus? Like enough so that you can get under passives scans with 1 damp and a cloak, but need 2 damps+ cloak for a gallogi focused? ID really like this with code breakers remaining low slots, as it gives us more utility, and brick tanking wouldn't be a problem (plates with speed penalties=retarted on a min scout, and you'd need another slot for a rep per) The only thing it would do is make it so that the minja could run 2 kin cats 2 code breakers or one of each while avoiding passives, and if they get gallogi'd they could still run a range amp or something to try to find him, or a kin cat for faster searching, or a codebreaker to hack the depot he's camping Thoughts? Is it game breaking? (Remember the only effect this will have is opening up another low for minjas, as they already require the cloak to get under passives) This is a good change IMO as it gives all scouts an aspect of eWAR not just three of them. Splits the pie a little more evenly. Remember, brick tanking on a min scout is not a problem (or possible ), and fitting ranges in the lows means that you lose shields to make them effective, so it would be balanced. I think it oversteps Gal scouts role too much. How so?
The min scout would be all about actively dampening and having waves of opportunity to get in, Knife, hack, plant remotes, and cause general pandemonium, and then get out before the cloak runs out and everyone can see him.
The Gal scout is about always being under the radar so that they can stay and slay, and ghost about as they please.
The min gets temporarily more freedom per se by having more slots available, but is restricted by the way the cloak functions
The Gal scout passively gets its ghost abilities.
Personally id like GK or Moody or Musturds or Broke's opinions on this as well. I know you're against it, but i feel that if you really thought about it, you could understand why its a good change
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:47:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about ...
I think your posting privileges should be postponed until 51% or more of your ideas are good ideas.
Why you hate me shotty?
But seriously what do you think?
(And yes i know i post a lot of crazy stuff sometimes that is really stupid and irrelevant, but perhaps in a few of my more serious posts there are some hidden gemstones that we could all benefit from)
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:50:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about making the hacking bonus for the minja innate and adding a cloak damp bonus? Like enough so that you can get under passives scans with 1 damp and a cloak, but need 2 damps+ cloak for a gallogi focused? ID really like this with code breakers remaining low slots, as it gives us more utility, and brick tanking wouldn't be a problem (plates with speed penalties=retarted on a min scout, and you'd need another slot for a rep per) The only thing it would do is make it so that the minja could run 2 kin cats 2 code breakers or one of each while avoiding passives, and if they get gallogi'd they could still run a range amp or something to try to find him, or a kin cat for faster searching, or a codebreaker to hack the depot he's camping Thoughts? Is it game breaking? (Remember the only effect this will have is opening up another low for minjas, as they already require the cloak to get under passives) This is a good change IMO as it gives all scouts an aspect of eWAR not just three of them. Splits the pie a little more evenly. Remember, brick tanking on a min scout is not a problem (or possible ), and fitting ranges in the lows means that you lose shields to make them effective, so it would be balanced. I think it oversteps Gal scouts role too much. Also, what about the cal scout dampening?
Isn't that overstepping gal scouts even more?
(and yes i understand its necessary, and i fully support it, i just want to post this question hypothetically and rhetorically to make you think about it)
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:53:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about making the hacking bonus for the minja innate and adding a cloak damp bonus? Like enough so that you can get under passives scans with 1 damp and a cloak, but need 2 damps+ cloak for a gallogi focused? ID really like this with code breakers remaining low slots, as it gives us more utility, and brick tanking wouldn't be a problem (plates with speed penalties=retarted on a min scout, and you'd need another slot for a rep per) The only thing it would do is make it so that the minja could run 2 kin cats 2 code breakers or one of each while avoiding passives, and if they get gallogi'd they could still run a range amp or something to try to find him, or a kin cat for faster searching, or a codebreaker to hack the depot he's camping Thoughts? Is it game breaking? (Remember the only effect this will have is opening up another low for minjas, as they already require the cloak to get under passives) This is a good change IMO as it gives all scouts an aspect of eWAR not just three of them. Splits the pie a little more evenly. Remember, brick tanking on a min scout is not a problem (or possible ), and fitting ranges in the lows means that you lose shields to make them effective, so it would be balanced. Isn't the hacking bonus already inate? I think Rattati's logic is giving only 2 bonuses to each suit. I meant making it part of the suit (like the stamina regen) so its available at all levels
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:54:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Why you hate me shotty? But seriously what do you think? (And yes i know i post a lot of crazy stuff sometimes that is really stupid and irrelevant, but perhaps in a few of my more serious posts there are some hidden gemstones that we could all benefit from) I hate you b/c you make me dig through sh!t to find those hidden gemstones :-) Would prefer a better sh!t:gemstone ratio. Well thats a compliment in an insult right there
and I'm working on it
I think my last one is a bit of a gemstone too
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:58:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What do you guys think about ...
I think your posting privileges should be postponed until 51% or more of your ideas are good ideas. It is a step in the right direction from earlier days. Gav, you have had some good moments! I enjoy playing with you in game.... But.... Pissing off Appia.... posting 5 times the same suggestion.... getting ignored by Shotty..... what was my favorite... the 25% efficacy per level to kin/cats or something like that? Seriously, though: I think that it's a bit of a shell game making a suit bonus intrinsic to the suit and then adding another bonus. As a new Min scout I don't really have a solid opinion on the suit yet, but would the bastards want to give up a current bonus to receive a cloak bonus (after the updates from hotfix Charlie, which makes stealth more of an option)? Would it be fair *not* to give it up and just add a cloak bonus on top? 50% lol
And yeah me and Appia are all good now we even did a PC together where i went miserably negative, but i saw her get a KLA-90 kill
And it would be, but rattati only wants 2 bonuses per suit :/
If we could keep all three, it would be in no way imbalanced but the heavy/med frame community would jump all over it and argue about how OP it is
"Wah instagib NK's on a suit i can't lolcrutchpermascan"
I really feel the best way to go about it would be to make it innate to the suit itself (similar to the amarr with stamina, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, its fun to play with you as well
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Spademan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I couldn't give less ***** about the FOTM, I run repper Gal Assault with Duvolle and Ion Pistol You are now my favourite cat. The Ion Pistol killed me so many times. And yet I still carry it. MY GALLENTE PRIDE SHALL NOT BE HURT! The most kills you get with the ion pistol are on yourself.... Though, to be fair, it isn't as bad as the flay lock. The IP is hit-scan, and ADS isn't actually that bad unless you charge and get that ridiculous shaking It might be hitscan, but that pistol is the buggiest POS I have ever used in the game. It overheats randomly whenever it feels like, without me even charging it at all Not to mention it's atrocious hit detection. I feel you on that...gives me more blue shields than a SG in the gallente lag facility
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:03:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: How so? The min scout would be all about actively dampening and having waves of opportunity to get in, Knife, hack, plant remotes, and cause general pandemonium, and then get out before the cloak runs out and everyone can see him. The Gal scout is about always being under the radar so that they can stay and slay, and ghost about as they please. The min gets temporarily more freedom per se by having more slots available, but is restricted by the way the cloak functions The Gal scout passively gets its ghost abilities. Personally id like GK or Moody or Musturds or Broke's opinions on this as well. I know you're against it, but i feel that if you really thought about it, you could understand why its a good change Because 1 damp + cloak to get under scans is better than what a gal can do. Plus that would give us 3 bonuses instead of two. Also, we will no longer have the stamina regen in Charlie, just to give you a heads up. NO STAMINA REGEN!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Also, its the same as a gal in term of slots
gal it costs 2 lo slots
min it costs 1 low slot and 1 eq
Also, doesn't the gal dodge gallogi with only 2 damps?
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: How so? The min scout would be all about actively dampening and having waves of opportunity to get in, Knife, hack, plant remotes, and cause general pandemonium, and then get out before the cloak runs out and everyone can see him. The Gal scout is about always being under the radar so that they can stay and slay, and ghost about as they please. The min gets temporarily more freedom per se by having more slots available, but is restricted by the way the cloak functions The Gal scout passively gets its ghost abilities. Personally id like GK or Moody or Musturds or Broke's opinions on this as well. I know you're against it, but i feel that if you really thought about it, you could understand why its a good change Because 1 damp + cloak to get under scans is better than what a gal can do. Plus that would give us 3 bonuses instead of two. Also, we will no longer have the stamina regen in Charlie, just to give you a heads up. NO STAMINA REGEN!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Also, its the same as a gal in term of slots gal it costs 2 lo slots min it costs 1 low slot and 1 eq Also, doesn't the gal dodge gallogi with only 2 damps? except anyone who is damping is already using a cloak. The reason people dislike you is because all you post is self-serving bullshit to get your gear buffed. Yeup thats all i ever post....
And so what? the cloak doesn't magically have 100% uptime....not even close. When you exit to shoot or anything, you open yourself up to being vulnerable to every scan there is.
Anyways, who are you again, and why are you deciding to tour this thread?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:12:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: NO STAMINA REGEN!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Also, its the same as a gal in term of slots
gal it costs 2 lo slots
min it costs 1 low slot and 1 eq
Also, doesn't the gal dodge gallogi with only 2 damps?
except anyone who is damping is already using a cloak. The reason people dislike you is because all you post is self-serving bullshit to get your gear buffed. He does latch on to an idea like a pit bull, but otherwise is ok. We are trying to beat the habit out of him. I have been called stubborn before...reason i broke up with my first GF actually lol
But come on, there is logic in what i said, whether you like it or not.
And to the self-serving part:About 50% of my posts are related to fixing scouts. Of those 50% about 60% are about the minja specifically. The other 40% are about other scouts, and the other 50% is about whatever needs some love ATM (mostly: NPE and assaults, and nerfing heavies)
I think we can all agree that those are not self serving, except maybe nerfing heavies, though that affects everyone equally, and is perhaps even better for med frames who get lolstomped by every scrub with an HMG
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:15:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:@ Gav
I am not entirely sure who he is, but for the most part has been respectful.
I would encourage you both to clean off your knives before using them. Hmm...still a little distrustful, as he is a tourist, though overall he seems better than some of the others *coughDeathwindcough*
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:33:00 -
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IRL or what? LOL
JK i got in trouble for walking a similar line before (still sorry Appia :P)
but I'm seriously considering investing in myofibs for a 3x kin cat 3x myofib ultimate duel of ultimateness fit
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mollerz wrote:@CCP ratatiti.. No offense meant. Just sometimes, given the situation, it is best to stay professional. I realize the position you are in, and that it isn't your fault. Just kind of sucks to hear someone spout about their temper, and then refer to their customers as fools you suffer. There's better ways to put it, and that's what coworkers are for. That being said- I would way rather you were friendly and had a good time working than having a miserable time. and I do hope you make fun of us on your own time :D That's a great way to blow off steam. o7 @Shotty- you are too much of a diplomat :P @monk- spot on dude (:...[=\==> And for what it is worth- F sleek nades. garbage! Fluxes it is. Had some great games with Oz, sai and Genocide and a couple others yesterday. We pwn3d left and right. Up and down. BA and start. Genocide is one heavy hitter Iv had some good 1v1s with Geno...we used to be really tight in game but i don't see him as much anymore...that was back when i was being recruited to DIOS EX
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:39:00 -
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Also, just a quick Q for shotty-did you know Archduke was me in scouts united that one day?
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:42:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, just a quick Q for shotty-did you know Archduke was me in scouts united that one day? I'm aware that someone let you into the basement. I don't know who that someone is, but I intend to find out. Little kids are not allowed down there. Its dangerous.
Edit: I know ... I know ... too much ragging on Gav for one day.
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:44:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I ran into him earlier- he went 42-1. I was the only person to kill him, so he sent me a GG. Just by chance I ended up in a server where he was squadded with Oz and Sai- both guys I've run with before. So it was just one of those things.
As an aside- the minja has been so pawn3d since day one I just give up. whatever the suit is- I'll just work with it.
I didn't know they were removing the stamina regen. That hits kind of hard and impacts knifing, being able to cover multiple outlier objectives, etc. And with the slots being the way they are it fucks up being able to speed tank (again). Out of 5 1v1s we had he only got me once, and i got him all the other times, and then he joined my squad after the match. And everyone lived happily ever after!
The End!
^^^^A Dust 514 fairytale LOL
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Appia Vibbia wrote:someone needs to let hfderrtgvcd in on the secret
psst, dude, Appia's a chick. Pro-tip: candidates had to give out their full names and you can find it at dust514.com/community/candidates I voted for you Appia--I hope that makes up for when we had our little scuffle
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Brokerib wrote:mollerz wrote:Brokerib wrote: Are there any pre-downloads available for the Beta? It's looking like 12-14GB client, so would be helpful to get it out of the way without losing a day of play...
I heard they are for the ps4... not sure about the other platforms. In the case of the PS4, we should be all ready to go at 10AM on the 17th. But you have to have automatic downloads set up too! double check your settings. 10AM where DAMN YOU TIMEZONES! Its 5:00 somewhere
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:46:00 -
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mollerz wrote:wasn't ghost running a melee troll fit on a minja?
I can't remember the total damage you get.
Protip for beta users (if you have it) are the HEP kin cats. +5% melee dam + 5% sprint bonus (if memory serves). I only have a 100 and never used them.
But you toss 3x myros on with 3x HEPs and you can knock the **** out of people.
495 damage
Im skilling it right now
Also now have access to a working PS3 again
If you guys wanna talk real shop with me, iv got a mic and would love to have a serious vocal conversation about balance, and then maybe play some matches
Id really like to squad up with more basement-dwellers (See what i did there )
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:49:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:HEPs are: 15% melee, 5% sprint What speed can a minja get with 3 HEP's and 3 KC's?
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:06:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:HEPs are: 15% melee, 5% sprint What speed can a minja get with 3 HEP's and 3 KC's? 11.12m/s All open beta vets were given 100 HEP modules on May 6, 2013. They are kincats with a melee bonus. So there is a hard cap on speed...interesting
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:08:00 -
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Can't find em on proto fits
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:21:00 -
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That was right after i started playing IIRC
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:01:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: So there is a hard cap on speed...interesting
Now that right there is an idiot-grade case of confirmation bias :-)
The "HEP Metabolic Enhancer" reads +5% to sprint, +15% to melee. Accounting for penalty, stacking 3 HEPs would have less effect than 1 complex KinCat. So wait, they trigger KC stacking penalty?
It wasn't a bias, it was a theory created by my hopes for a hard cap
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:03:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:HEPs are: 15% melee, 5% sprint What speed can a minja get with 3 HEP's and 3 KC's? 11.12m/s All open beta vets were given 100 HEP modules on May 6, 2013. They are kincats with a melee bonus. So there is a hard cap on speed...interesting Oh- HEPs are kin cats and go in the lows. The real value is stacking them with myros. Or shield tanking with some extra punch I suppose. What about high slot speed mods?
Aren't there some of those?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Spademan wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Spademan wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: I was.
3x Melee, 1x speed, 2x damp + cloak
The three to four man Melee kill feeds were totally worth the death count.
Melee isn't a bad option to run one or two. At two, you get 350 Melee, which really packs a punch. Run an AR, melt shields and then punch through armor. Tons of fun.-á
Like this:
1x shield 2x Melee
1x ferroscale, 1x speed, 1x damp
2 Myofibrills gets you up to 700 on a Minmatar Commando. Just saying. I know what I'm doing with my spare sp If you go Caldari then at Proto you can stack 3 for 990. But then you can't put two KinCats on and run at 7.81 M/S 990
Thats fully charged non-minja NK damage -10 IIRC
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:08:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: What about high slot speed mods?
Aren't there some of those?
No. But I like the way you think Chants: Speed, speed, speed, speed, speed, speed!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:11:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Can't find em on proto fits Check Basic Kinetic Catalyzers, they are there. I thought they were in HS, in all honesty, as i was told that before in a squad with someone
So see Shotty-im not stupid, i was just not informed
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:11:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Much like the whole backpedaling debacle, this supposed speed cap or the game will break... yea. Aliens Yeah speed breaks the game cause aliens? or something.
Something like that.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:22:00 -
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IRL i think i can sprint faster than a 3x KCed ninja...thats sad
Ill have to do the math real quick...
11.12 m/s->11.12m/s*.9144y/m=10.168 y/s
40/10.168=3.93 40 yard dash ( for those of you who don't play sports, thats ridiculously fast, inhumanly fast. Chris Johnson ran a 4.2. A man did however run a 3.9 something indoor with spikes on, but that doesn't count)
So yeah my 4.67 isn't even close... i guess I'm wrong
Lets see about two KCs
10.38 m/s->10.38m/s*.9144=9.49 y/s
40/9.49=4.21
Still not faster than a 2x KC minja...damn lol
Sorry guys that was something i always wanted to figure out lol
I wanted to say something about ninjas not being fast enough, but i failed miserably...
Next patch though my fit will be exactly as fast as I am so i can feel good about myself
9.35 m/s=8.55 y/s
40/8.55=4.67
You guys should all run a timed 40 and see what how you compare to your fit of choice
Also, jesus Haerr I swear>50% of my likes are from you lol
Keep it up though, please
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:26:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:Much like the whole backpedaling debacle, this supposed speed cap or the game will break... yea. Aliens Yeah speed breaks the game cause aliens? or something. Something like that. meh.. Aliens or something...yeup backpedal nope cause aliens yes or something like that...Did i say it right?
Ugh
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:35:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:IRL i think i can sprint faster than a 3x KCed ninja...thats sad Ill have to do the math real quick... 11.12 m/s->11.12m/s*.9144y/m=10.168 y/s 40/10.168=3.93 40 yard dash ( for those of you who don't play sports, thats ridiculously fast, inhumanly fast. Chris Johnson ran a 4.2. A man did however run a 3.9 something indoor with spikes on, but that doesn't count) So yeah my 4.67 isn't even close... i guess I'm wrong Lets see about two KCs 10.38 m/s->10.38m/s*.9144=9.49 y/s 40/9.49=4.21 Still not faster than a 2x KC minja...damn lol Sorry guys that was something i always wanted to figure out lol I can sprint at about 8m/s (18mph) tops. For about a 1/4 mile. I started running again so by end of summer I could easily do a mile at that speed. It is certainly easier to train to run further than faster. Sprint training ******* sucks. Sprint training is pretty ******* hard. Im starting to get back into it again for football....i have patellar tendonitis tho so somedays i can't even move after doing like plyometrics which blows donkey ****, but my squat weight is going up again to almost 2x my BW, and my vert is doing really well too
Also distance training kills your sprint muscles
Dont do it
If you wanna train endurance do several high speed short sprints in quick succession
Good long distance runners are built to run like sprinters.
Trust me, good cardio from burst training>all else for everything. I can run a sub 7 minute mile pretty easily cause i train a lot (when I'm not playing or on the forums lol)
BTW i have never trained long distance in my life so a mile is like ridiculously long for me
Also, if you do a lot of agility ropes, it'll help your running form cause of foot placement
Hahaha i could go on all day about this, HMU sometime if you want help for getting faster
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:44:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
Sprint training is pretty ******* hard. Im starting to get back into it again for football....i have patellar tendonitis tho so somedays i can't even move after doing like plyometrics which blows donkey ****, but my squat weight is going up again to almost 2x my BW, and my vert is doing really well too
Also distance training kills your sprint muscles
Dont do it
If you wanna train endurance do several high speed short sprints in quick succession
Good long distance runners are built to run like sprinters.
Trust me, good cardio from burst training>all else for everything. I can run a sub 7 minute mile pretty easily cause i train a lot (when I'm not playing or on the forums lol)
Also, if you do a lot of agility ropes, it'll help your running form cause of foot placement
Hahaha i could go on all day about this, HMU sometime if you want help for getting faster
I used to like to run faster, but nowadays I enjoy the LD running a lot more. I never over do it, though. Too much LD running over time just plain old fucks you up. I like to MTB as well. I'm more of a climber than a downhill nut. When I lived in australia, I'd run 4 KMs a day, and at the 2KM mark I'd do sprint sets. Until one day I almost blacked out. The thing about where I was is the ants. I made it to the sidewalk, but if I fell onto the grass. ugh. It would have been a nightmare. You sound like a young dude tho. I can't be training like you anymore :D I am young hahaha
But most people don't know cause i have an auto correct bot running on my computer so i can't make spelling mistakes or grammar mistakes on these forums unless i want to.
Except for the i's- they have some kind of a glitch where it only caps it sometimes for the grammar program.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:45:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:With the new slot layout, caldari will be f'ed at std/adv when it comes to dampening.
Yikes. They get a damp bonus
I think they'll actually be better and dampening than a ninja- no cloak and 2 damps gets you under all passives. Add cloak and you're under all scans
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:51:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:With the new slot layout, caldari will be f'ed at std/adv when it comes to dampening.
Yikes. They get a damp bonus I think they'll actually be better and dampening than a ninja- no cloak and 2 damps gets you under all passives. Add cloak and you're under all scans @ std and adv with the new slot count, they get 1 L They can only get 2 damps on at proto. I am not talking current build here. Oh they're switching up load outs....thats bad...
We should advocate all scouts having >=2 lows at each level, so that its possible to damp
proposed fix-
STD
M-2/2 A-1/3 C-2/2 G-1/3
ADV
M-3/2 A-1/4 C-3/2 G-2/3
thoughts?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:52:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I am young hahaha But most people don't know cause i have an auto correct bot running on my computer so i can't make spelling mistakes or grammar mistakes on these forums unless i want to. Except for the i's- they have some kind of a glitch where it only caps it sometimes for the grammar program. If spelling mistakes mean you are young, then I am 2 years old. Its a subconscious stereotype that I'm sure at least 50% of people have; older people make fewer spelling/grammar errors.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:54:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:But most people don't know cause i have an auto correct bot running on my computer so i can't make spelling mistakes or grammar mistakes on these forums unless i want to. Except for the i's- they have some kind of a glitch where it only caps it sometimes for the grammar program. So young people are bad at spelling? There's enough whats here to power a lightbulb. ^Read above. Its a subconscious stereotype that the as age increases, wisdom increases----> better spelling/grammar due to increased knowledge.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:But most people don't know cause i have an auto correct bot running on my computer so i can't make spelling mistakes or grammar mistakes on these forums unless i want to. Except for the i's- they have some kind of a glitch where it only caps it sometimes for the grammar program. So young people are bad at spelling? There's enough whats here to power a lightbulb. Not trying to start something-Im not even 18 yet so don't attack me hahaha
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:But most people don't know cause i have an auto correct bot running on my computer so i can't make spelling mistakes or grammar mistakes on these forums unless i want to. Except for the i's- they have some kind of a glitch where it only caps it sometimes for the grammar program. So young people are bad at spelling? There's enough whats here to power a lightbulb. Not trying to start something-Im not even 18 yet so don't attack me hahaha All good. As to your explanation, I was actually in the middle of writing when that was posted. Cool, cool its all good guys haha
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.17 12:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:All these talks about 40 times!
I played American Football in highschool. Fastest 40 time I got was 4.6 second 40.
Unfortunately, I can't sustain. My 100's were always around the upper 11's.
I was 6th fastest on my team. Too bad I couldn't tackle to save my life, and I had feet for hands. I could run the ball though. Yeah i ran a 4.67 last year, and I'm a good deal faster now haha so well have to see how i do. I have a combine thing in August so Ill tell you guys then
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:12:00 -
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NK efficacy on vehicles?
Anyone see that?
Fucks yeah!!!!!!! Really am gonna enjoy the tears
Cant wait for the "NK OP" threads
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:19:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:NK efficacy on vehicles? Anyone see that? Fucks yeah!!!!!!! Really am gonna enjoy the tears Cant wait for the "NK OP" threads Thank Appia. I can't believe she got it done. CPM material for sure. That was her!!??
Thanks Appia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ruv you rong time
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LeGoose wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Lame, I missed the stephen king talk...
Ive been reading the guys books since I was in grade school. Something about the detail he provides is nice. Currently reading 11/22/63, which is about a dude thats trying to change the JFK assassination. Pretty good so far.
Some of his writing is really over the top, but I did really enjoy all the DT series, but I read them about 10 years ago, so I hardly remember the plot.
Lastly, I haven't seen any ps3 beta codes. Sadly I signed up and they said I wasn't eligible for some reason, oh well. I likely won't be buying it on ps3 anyway. I have an extra US ps3 code if you want it Iggy. Can i has it?
I really really would like one
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.18 03:30:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:LeGoose wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Lame, I missed the stephen king talk...
Ive been reading the guys books since I was in grade school. Something about the detail he provides is nice. Currently reading 11/22/63, which is about a dude thats trying to change the JFK assassination. Pretty good so far.
Some of his writing is really over the top, but I did really enjoy all the DT series, but I read them about 10 years ago, so I hardly remember the plot.
Lastly, I haven't seen any ps3 beta codes. Sadly I signed up and they said I wasn't eligible for some reason, oh well. I likely won't be buying it on ps3 anyway. I have an extra US ps3 code if you want it Iggy. Can i has it? I really really would like one Mail me in dust or on psn and I will get it to you. TY bro :D
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.18 03:34:00 -
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Also, for gal scouts come Charlie--prepare to be brutally nerfed again
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5544
This fit will dominate the field, I'm almost 100% certain. Its perfect.
Scan precision will be under 20, i believe
Always under damps
Proto Cloak
Proto CR and aSMG
Highest strafe speed possible on a Gal scout
415 total HP
ADV remotes
Or, you could replace one ferro with a complex plate and get ridiculous armor (394 to be precise) with lower strafe speed
It will be on par with a well fitted amarr scout, like this one
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5545
Not quite as good at direct combat, but the scans are much more powerful
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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LeGoose wrote:@Gav I realized I won't be getting onto dust for the weekend. Get me a junk email address and I'll send it to you [email protected]
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Posted - 2014.07.18 20:40:00 -
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TY
You're awesome bro
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Posted - 2014.07.19 01:24:00 -
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T-40 minutes till Destiny download is complete, courtesy of LeGoose
TY bro
Anyone wanna show me the ropes when i get on?
Id love to run and gun with some of you bastards
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:42:00 -
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On Destiny now, does anyone wanna form a fire team?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.20 14:36:00 -
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Does anyone else find the Destiny PvP too CoD like?
Its really really easy IMHO
Even as a level 6 in a game where everyone else is level 8, I can run around with no tactics and kill everyone fairly quickly
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Posted - 2014.07.20 14:41:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Oh and by the way, I'm using the Destiny smart phone app to stalk you all and check out your gear and stats Who has the coolest cloak? Is it me!? Because I spent a lot of time grinding for a nice one. Objection! I have best cloak. Do they do anything if you get a rare one...?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Spademan wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Oh and by the way, I'm using the Destiny smart phone app to stalk you all and check out your gear and stats Who has the coolest cloak? Is it me!? Because I spent a lot of time grinding for a nice one. Objection! I have best cloak. Do they do anything if you get a rare one...? Not that I know of. They just get longer. Lol.
What are your guys favorite weapons?
I like the burst rifles and hand cannons, but i got a really nice auto rifle that does extra damage while scoped and has 37 damage as a level 5 gun
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:[ Lol.
What are your guys favorite weapons?
I like the burst rifles and hand cannons, but i got a really nice auto rifle that does extra damage while scoped and has 37 damage as a level 5 gun Hand Cannons, Fusion Rifles and Scout rifles. I have yet to get a non-****** hand cannon, but i forgot about the fusion rifles!
Love them
Also, the SG is god-awful. Makes me appreciate Dust a little more lol.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:37:00 -
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You know what the best part of Destiny is?
Throwing knives.
I really wish Dust had those.
I was a big ballistic knife guy in CoD, and i love the knife in Destiny.
Imagine if the NK had a throwing option...
Badassery would ensue.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Brokerib wrote:Haven't been having much luck with the shotgun (melee seems to be working better), but the fusion rifle and handcannon are rocking. Will have to take the Handcannon into PVP and see how it goes. I don't like the hand cannon for PvP...its just too hard to consecutively land head shots IMHO
Scout rifle is where its at
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Bayeth Mal wrote:I agree with Jolly. SG works quite nicely.
Also agree with a super tweak.
I started using the Scout Rifle but switched to auto due to lag issues (I largely run with American players).
I've had some weird issues. SG blast does 0 damage, they turn, kill me, take two steps then die. Also emptying a whole clip into someone because only 1 hit in 4 actually detects. Instant shield loss to one round from an auto rifle. Likely I've been taking damage but getting no hit indicator then it all calculates at once. Yeah, makes me appreciate Dust's hit detection
^^Thats a bad thing.
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:You know what the best part of Destiny is?
Throwing knives.
I really wish Dust had those.
I was a big ballistic knife guy in CoD, and i love the knife in Destiny.
Imagine if the NK had a throwing option...
Badassery would ensue. Can't wait to try out the Bladedancer subclass (http://destinynews.net/bladedancer-sunsinger-defender/). Looks like the Nova Knife option for Destiny. Teleports, cloaks and kin cats
I know what I'm going to be running around with
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:57:00 -
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double jump with throwing knife headshot for 500 damage is amazing
Still doesn't one shot titans
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:58:00 -
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Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread Added my piece to the discussion Heavy SpamThis has to stop Right with you bro
I was in a match where 8 people had caldari or gallente scouts either ADV or proto (with a random minja in there who was actually decent) and i killed every one at least twice, then they all switched to HMG heavies, one by one. It was sickening
EDIT: LOL thats what ill imagine all heavy players to look like from now on
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:42:00 -
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Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus?
I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav.")
But seriously guys, what do you all think?
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:51:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it.
But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie
Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening.
Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that?
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:04:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it. But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening. Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that? If the clack dampening gets applied as a baseline (10% for all clacks, Rattati took it under consideration, so no telling yet) then it shouldn't be necessary. I'm happy with two dampeners and a cloak being the baseline for passive invisibility. If it doesn't, then I'm more than happy to support a push. The thing i don't understand is why it shouldn't be added-The only thing it lets minja's do is stack 1 more kin cat/codebreaker in the low that they can free up.
Also, its a weaker bonus as it requires a cloak to work, and has a downtime, whereas the gal requires no cloak for the same benefit, except 100% uptime, albeit losing a low in the process.
The worst thing i could think of is it being used to tank armor, but really?
If you add a plate, you need a rep per. If you add a non-ferro, you lose a LOT of speed and hacking potential for a max of 150 HP extra, which only an idiot would do with a minja.
You'd have sub-assault speeds, with sub-assault HP, and only dampening would be what you're good at.
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:38:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Myself, I don't want a damp bonus. I just want an ADV suit to be able to beat the Warden - if I use BOTH of my lows for cDamps and fit a cloak. Which means I want the ADV Minmatar scout suit to have enough CPU and PG to fit PRO cloak, cDamps, IshNoks and BK-42 and whatever highs (within reason) without needing a PG mod (because 1 damp ain't gonna bloody well do it).
EDIT: for clarity, I don't like any game where you have no chance whatsoever if you're not in the BEST gear. And right now, even in pubs, 2 complex damps ain't always enough to get under an ADV Warden but I can't fit a PRO cloak unless I'm in a PRO suit. Go Proto or Go Home = I'm taking my ball somewhere else this September and playing DUST as a time killer during downtimes over there. The cloak damp bonus helps that though...thats part of the whole idea
Also, what do you guys think about making the cloak bonus a 20% bonus per level, then reducing fitting capacity on the suits?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:46:00 -
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If we don't get code breakers in the highs, can we get an active dampening bonus? This way we can run 2 code breakers and a damp and get under passives with a proto cloak for long enough to ninja a point.
It really makes sense, if you think about it.
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:52:00 -
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If the new CPM's have any power, I'm expecting scouts to be going back down into a deep, dark hole.
Good thing there's Destiny
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:18:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Nevermind the rest. We can communicate with/through Cross. He has most everyone's respect and I believe that deep down devs will play preference. Admittedly the cronies will try and ride scouts to their death If I caint 2-shot it with a rail rifle, it ain't no scount.
-Anti-Scout Sycophant Campaign Slogan
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Posted - 2014.07.26 23:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Back from Vacation.
Anyone wanna catch me up? Ghost once you get in game, join the chat Min/Am Q-Sync
^^Anyone can join it, we will be doing FW Q-Syncs \
More info here
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.04 21:47:00 -
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Dammit! You guys and your sky rim talk make me want to get the game instead of illegally downloading it!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.06 03:42:00 -
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Sup guys
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Posted - 2014.08.07 01:54:00 -
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Just looked at the spreadsheet...kinda disappointed that all scouts are getting a buff (except arguably the caldari), and min are staying the same
Love the LP changes--awesome!
ADS didn't need the eHP buff, esp. the python. Talking to Derrith a week ago about this, he even admitted it.
Like that Assaults get an extra slot
Assault didn't need a base eHP buff if its getting extra slots--itll make SGing a lot harder, and NKs will be forced to hit with two slashes perhaps if they toned it down a bit, id be fine. But with maxed cores, those numbers will be through the roof, combined with barely less speed than a scout (more in the min assault case), they may be OP. Stay tuned.
Eh on the SL changes, just wish that proto hadn't been nerfed, as it was in a good place (or pretty close), though the standard and advanced buffs are awesome
1 PG on the NK's/CB's/KC's? Really? Come on.
DM changes are awesome, though I'm still a little iffy from the two-shot kal RR from 1.6
Installs--awesome!! no more free WP for tankers!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:07:00 -
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Also, I'm going to ask this here to all the guys right now cause i don't know anywhere else i would ask this to grown adults without it being super weird....
Does viagra help you *** more?
Serious question don't troll me or ill get really pissed.
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:24:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, I'm going to ask this here to all the guys right now cause i don't know anywhere else i would ask this to grown adults without it being super weird....
Does viagra help you *** more?
Serious question don't troll me or ill get really pissed. In short no. And I stress this more than anything, this is based upon my knowledge of how it works and not from any actual experience the product. I also don't know what word you used with only 3 *s. It confuses me. cum
Also, i know that it shouldnt directly from the chemicals its made with, but i need some info from people who've used it
Also, can you get it if you're under 18?
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, I'm going to ask this here to all the guys right now cause i don't know anywhere else i would ask this to grown adults without it being super weird....
Does viagra help you *** more?
Serious question don't troll me or ill get really pissed. In short no. And I stress this more than anything, this is based upon my knowledge of how it works and not from any actual experience the product. I also don't know what word you used with only 3 *s. It confuses me. c um Also, i know that it shouldnt directly from the chemicals its made with, but i need some info from people who've used it Viagra affects only blood flow. Nothing more. It was developed initially as a drug to reduce blood pressure. It will do nothing for you if don't need it except give you the possibility of bad side effects. And that goes for any other drug, prescription or not. Ok thanks haha I'm going to stop talking about this now
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:37:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:m8 if you're trying to increase volume of ejaculate and were thus curious about viagra, it's all about diet. Do a google image search on the phrase "god tier *** infographic" for some ideas.
And become a healthier person in general, ffs.
You can learn a lot on 4chan if you're not stupid. LOL i have a ~6% BMI...you can't get much healthier than that, but thanks
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Posted - 2014.08.07 03:15:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Ok. I think we may have covered every topic possible. All within 1000 pages. My favorite was the running one
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.07 16:49:00 -
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Question--What are the fixes to backpedal and strafe speed that I've been hearing about?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:25:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Question--What are the fixes to backpedal and strafe speed that I've been hearing about? There are no fixes. The majority of us have an agreement that 100% backwards movement speed is absolutely stupid and has no reason to exist in DUST 514. Reducing backwards movement ratio will result in higher performance of Nova Knives and Shotguns where people can just backpedal their way out of your range. CCP LogiBro and CCP Rattati don't think it should be changed because, "it would affect too many things at once." Regardless of whether it would be good for the game as a whole or not, they only want to make direct changes to improve performance rather than indirect ones that would make the game better in its entirety.
I hate getting gunned down by scrubs who just backpedal and hip fire while i try to slash them.
If they aren't gonna fix backpedal, i want a 1 second "sprint charge" where you keep your forward momentum (even sprinting) for 1 second while you charge
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:51:00 -
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Guys i just made some stuff on proto fits.....check it out if you want.
Its kinda scary how good assaults are gonna be next patch, I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:41:00 -
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75% might be too much...lets not get carried away shotty.
I think we could sell 90% though
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.08 17:21:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Cass Caul wrote:all about that delta-V
Remember that as the majority of players are Americas, the US is one of the lowest ranked in k-12 education. Simple math, percentages, fractions, and mathematical notation are going to be difficult for them to understand. Liberal Arts departments, Education departments, and Business departments in many US Universities also have low requirements in mathematics courses.
that and we have plenty of people that can't get into an R-rated film currently posting in the Barbershop We are way down on the rungs of a lot of metrics you'd think, as a society, we'd want to strive for. The USA is a demographic of the brightest and the dimmest. The best and the worst. There are dichotomies everywhere. Like an Australian boat captain once told me on the high Southern Seas... "Mate, every time I hear of something completely ****** up in the world.. It's from the USA." Thats because our government is ****** by so many personal agendas that we are literally forcing ourselves into degeneracy and poverty.
It would literally take a two-year-old and support from both political parties to un-**** the government, but its never going to happen.
Take the educational system for example. We have whats called the NCLB act (no child left behind), which was designed to ensure that all children are given equal educational opportunities. However, what ended up happening (and what could have been predicted by someone with an IQ over 80) is that schools simply ended up lowering their standards and falling into negative feedback loops which only caused the system to proliferate.
Now, the loopholes and problems in the act are so easy to fix that my 9 year old sister could do it if she wanted, but the government is literally just a pissing match right now between Republicans and Democrats who each think that they're doing whats right, but in reality are simply being puppets of the people who they get their votes (and thus livelihood from), who are, in turn being puppets of the media which is basically designed to set people on one of two sides: "liberal" or "Conservative".
These words have absolutely no meaning and are just constructs propagated by the media and people with ulterior motives who seek to use the political situation to their advantage.
Look up Rupert Murdoch if you don't believe me.
So, to the people saying that Americans are stupid, **** you, and get a little more context. Its not the people's fault that our government is in turmoil and that its literally impossible to un-****.
Also, sorry for the rant, which i guess thats what this is haha.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 21:25:00 -
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My counter for the forum wide "heavy spam"
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 21:55:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Issue: The poem breaks at ARR. Hmm...this was from pre-1.6 i believe...it may need an update
Also, made an interesting thread regarding differences between Sentinels and Scouts in GD. Id recommend you all take a look
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:15:00 -
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R sounds like ARRRR in my accent
Car sounds like CARRRRR in my accent
Therefore, it rhymes
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:16:00 -
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Also, Jace, I took your advice and it worked really well!
I looked up some simple things i could do and they actually worked lol, so thanks man
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 22:17:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:R sounds like ARRRR in my accent Car sounds like CARRRRR in my accent Therefore, it rhymes What are you? A pirate? American
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:52:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, Jace, I took your advice and it worked really well!
I looked up some simple things i could do and they actually worked lol, so thanks man np bro. I haven't really bothered because, while my fiancee swallows, she's not into the whole 'facials' thing, so I'm not overly concerned about 'volume' or 'ropes' so much as 'potency'. Hopefully next year there'll be a little Jace runnin' around stabbing the cat and disappearing off tacnet. Lol oh man I'm really hoping there isn't a little Gav....im not even 18 yet so that'd be really bad lol, but she does use birth protection so I'm fine haha
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:35:00 -
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Quick poll- Cloaking being 10% dampening at all tiers yes or no?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:10:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Can we can find a way to implement better dampening bonus for cloak without risking Tac-Net immune, up-armored slayer scouts?
I do not believe that beating scans with 1 damp + cloak would create balance issues for Minmatar or Caldari Scouts. I've serious reservations, however, about Gallente and Amarr Scouts.
We've witnessed prior to Alpha the problems created by single-dampened, high-HP GalScouts; I suspect the future Amarr Scout would be capable of even greater imbalance...
The current CalScout's strength at recon is checked by his lack of survivability; he cannot effectively tank while enhancing precision. After Charlie, the Amarr Scout will be capable of doing both. Adding the additional ability beat scans with one damp would create a clearly best-in-class unit.
What slayer wouldn't want to run a suit with the best possible passive scans, TacNet immunity and 700+ HP?
Have you seen the Hotfix Charlie Assault Numbers? because it used to be rare to find a suit that could survive 2 hits from the shotsgun. Now it's going to be commonplace So what if a scout has 700 total HP. My Assault is going to have twice that. An excellent point. Let's play this out ... CA, MN Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp + any cloak CA, MN Scout - Beats focused scans with 1 cmp damp + pro cloak GA Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp GA Scout - Beats focused scans with one 1 damp + any cloak AM Scout - Beats all scans with 2 cmp damp + any cloak Objectives: * Reinforces GA Scout role as infiltrator * Frees up a low slot for MN and CA * Prevents AM Scout from doing too much at once Thoughts? I like it!
+1
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2003
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:23:00 -
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What is this all about people dying...?
Does someone want to explain for me?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What is this all about people dying...?
Does someone want to explain for me? People are playing XCOM and placing the names of others as characters in the game. It does not always end well. What is XCOM...?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2004
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:32:00 -
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@ Shotty:
With the Assault suit buff, I feel like we could really pitch a 1-Damp only requirement to get under passives with a 2-Damp requirement to dodge the Gallogi Focused, as the real reason that was put into place was to discourage scouts from being used as Assaults AND Scouts, (despite it being rough and poorly thought out).
If it only requires one Damp, it should be balanced, as it won't make us the super-slayers that assaults will be post charlie, no matter what we use that one extra slot for.
My .02 ISK
EDIT: Though this would work even better if armor plates had a 2x speed penalty on light frames
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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2004
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:38:00 -
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Sounds fun
Any of you guys enjoy Fire Emblem?
Is it similar to that?
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2004
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:40:00 -
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CA, MN Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp + any cloak CA, MN Scout - Beats focused scans with 1 cmp damp + pro cloak GA Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp GA Scout - Beats focused scans with one 1 cmp damp + any cloak AM Scout - Beats all scans with 2 cmp damp + any cloak
^^That right there actually looks about perfect
Though we may wanna try to also sell a 2x speed penalty if possible, unless Assaults become as rampant as we may expect
EDIT: That also includes passives, Im assuming?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2007
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Posted - 2014.08.11 22:41:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:@ Shotty:
With the Assault suit buff, I feel like we could really pitch a 1-Damp only requirement to get under passives with a 2-Damp requirement to dodge the Gallogi Focused, as the real reason that was put into place was to discourage scouts from being used as Assaults AND Scouts, (despite it being rough and poorly thought out).
If it only requires one Damp, it should be balanced, as it won't make us the super-slayers that assaults will be post charlie, no matter what we use that one extra slot for.
My .02 ISK
EDIT: Though this would work even better if armor plates had a 2x speed penalty on light frames Tell me again what you're thinking, but use this format: CA, MN Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp + any cloak CA, MN Scout - Beats focused scans with 1 cmp damp + pro cloak GA Scout - Beats non-focused scans with 1 cmp damp GA Scout - Beats focused scans with one 1 cmp damp + any cloak AM Scout - Beats all scans with 2 cmp damp + any cloak* Keep in mind that the GalScout must be better at sneaking than the others. Sorry for previous reply. just woke up and read it wrong. CA, MIN Scout - Would need a 25 base profile and proto cloak would need to be 30% GA Scout - Would need a 25 base profile and dampening bonus of like 25% with std cloak at 6% AM Scout - Would need a 25 base profile and std cloak at 6% also same as CA, MIN above. I understand you want more room for kincats/codebreakers but after charlie min will be much better off than cal scouts. Min will have 3 slots to decide on dampening or boosting the 1 bonus cal will have 2 slots to boost 2 bonuses without the OHK bonus to a weapon. the new number to beat is 18 now not 15. if a squad is super scanning focused with gal logis then you will see you have been scanned and know to break out the gal scouts or drop your codebreakers/kincats to get past them. simple tactics. Still firm believer in if you want to be a Gallente scout then level a gallente scout. If you want to be a Minmatar scout level a minmatar scout. Don't lobby to make Minmatar scout a super Min/Gal scout. The same as I don't lobby to make Gal scout a super Gal/Min scout with 15% hacking 15% NK dmg. I know my Gal would much like a 25% clip or rate of fire buff to shotgun or my Cal would much like a 25% headshot with sniper rifle on top of easily beating scans like the lobbying for min scout is asking for. The idea is it frees up allow for the Cal AND the Min so that the cal isn't stuck into not being able to use its range bonus effectively because it only has one low.
Im right with you on the Cal scout sucking in Charlie...the only one that'll be worse IMHO is the ninja, but not by much
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2007
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Posted - 2014.08.11 22:44:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Sounds fun Any of you guys enjoy Fire Emblem? Is it similar to that? I broke Fire Emblem Sacred Stones. Amelia as a general OMG. She could tank stuff all day. I ran two generals with mages backing them up and longbows behind them. I could defend bottlenecks for AGES. I couldn't lose if I tried. XCOM is MUCH tougher due to better AI. YESSS!!! LOL i ran double summoners with flux and ewan as summoners and would just use their minions and generals to tank while having all my other characters using ranged weapons and javelins and stuff haha
I never lost a single Char and leveled all of them to 20
Too much time on my hands as a kid haha
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2009
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Posted - 2014.08.11 22:50:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Poor SG, why do you suck once again. X( Just wait till charlie where every assault suit is going to require 2-3 shots, and with hit detection the way it is, by 2-3 i mean 4-5
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2012
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Posted - 2014.08.12 04:02:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2307317#post2307317
Cant stop laughing hahaha these heavies are trying to correct my grammar and they don't know what they're doing hahaha its hilarious
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2017
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Also, it has been decided by the non-scouts that any scout that doesn't have to run all complex damps in their lows is OP. Welcome to the post buff Nerf.
I predict it will continue indefinately. The mobile radars will switch to Amarr and the cycle continues.
That's Dust 514 baby! If we didn't, we might be able to survive more than 2 shots of a rail rifle, or be able to run away from unwinnable fights...why would they allow us to do that?
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Posted - 2014.08.12 14:41:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Also, it has been decided by the non-scouts that any scout that doesn't have to run all complex damps in their lows is OP. Welcome to the post buff Nerf.
I predict it will continue indefinately. The mobile radars will switch to Amarr and the cycle continues.
That's Dust 514 baby! That's ridiculous. There are lots of other good scoutly goodies in low slots ... KinCats, CardRegs, Range Extenders, Shield Regulators, Code Breakers, When did it shift from "running straight plates is bad" to "running anything but damps is bad"? As far as I can tell, FoTM tactics haven't changed; all the Nyain San "Scouts" I encounter at still stacking plates. I think he's mocking the attitude that the majority of the community has towards us...really, what it comes down to is them thinking that if you aren't fitting full proto damps on a proto scout, you shouldn't be viable, mainly because they don't want speed tanking or better eWar as well as more HP to be possible on a scout suit
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Posted - 2014.08.12 23:05:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Damn you, Igginbotham. You've done forced my hand :-) A 'bit premature, but here's what I'm thinking at the moment ...
Amarr Scout * Role: High Intensity / Low Range Recon * Major Efficacy Bonus: Precision Enhancers * Minor Efficacy Bonus: Biotics * Encourages: Counter-infiltration; mobile reconnaissance * Discourages: Running straight HP (or) high precision atop straight brick
Caldari Scout * Role: Low Intensity / High Range Recon * Major Efficacy Bonus: Range Extenders * Minor Efficacy Bonus: Shield Rechargers / Energizers * Encourages: Opportunistic ranged combat; ranged recon * Discourages: Running straight HP
Gallente Scout * Role: Infiltration * Major Efficacy Bonus: Profile Dampeners * Minor Efficacy Bonus: Range Extenders * Encourages: Operating and reporting from behind enemy lines * Discourages: Running straight HP
Minmatar Scout * Role: Assassination / Sabotage * Major Efficacy Bonus: Codebreakers, Cloak (i.e. active dampening bonus) * Minor Efficacy Bonus: Nova Knives * Encourages: High-risk, high-reward hit-and-run tactics * Discourages: Being not good
Also on the to-do list (and also subject to change) ...
Secondary Balance Considerations * Relocation of Codebreakers from Low to High * Reduction to backpedal speed for all infantry * Correction to Combat Rifle's lopsided damage profile * Improvements to Sniper Rifle * Improvements to Breach Shotgun; change Shotgun Proficiency back to RoF * Improvements to Swarm Launcher (or) redesignation as sidearm * Improvements to Sidearms (bring all into balance with SMG)
Additional Balance Contingencies * If proven necessary in Charlie, increase armor plate penalties for scout/light infantry * If proven necessary in Charlie, fix scannerina (or) reduce / replace GalLogi scan bonuses * If proven ineffective in Charlie, buff locus grenades and/or replace Sentinel resistance
Punch some holes!
:: braces for fits of rage from Appia and Void :: :: braces for unintelligible British from Cavman :: :: braces for unintelligible Irish from Spade :: :: braces for something stupid or overreaching from Gav :: :: welcomes +1 without comment from Monk :: :: welcomes thoughts and feedback from all :: I think we should add a 25% bonus to KC efficacy to minmitar
JK
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:30:00 -
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How are th enew NK's?
Also, are the Amarr assaults FoTM as I predicted?
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:10:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:How are th enew NK's?
Also, are the Amarr assaults FoTM as I predicted? +0.5m makes a difference while Increased aim adhesion did not. Attempted to sit on a tank and repeatedly knife them, it did no damage. Other squad-mates were reporting the same thing that match. Yet, one of the guys got a Nova Knife kill on a Tank in a PC match. We were not sure if it was buggy, lag induced, or game-mode dependent. And the Amarr Assault went from Working very well to "shh, let's not tell anyone how ridiculous this is yet." This is exactly how i imagined Charlie would pan out
Also its awesome that the amarr assault is FoTM because i love my suit being the weakest in the game to the FoTM...
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:24:00 -
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Guys is this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169846&find=unread coming true?
I haven't played yet, but I may be on later to check it out
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:39:00 -
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I have just discovered that my NK skills are terribad
Running full proto i was going 9-5, as a NK scout with an ACR then i switched to SG and went 6-1 before the game ended less than 2 minutes later (dying because i got splashed at 37 HP by a PLC)...I felt bad for the first time in a while trying to run them...I guess I'm just not good with them haha
The struggles
At least I'm going out tonight so that'll be fun and maybe ill try NK's tomorrow
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I have just discovered that my NK skills are terribad Running full proto i was going 9-5, as a NK scout with an ACR then i switched to SG and went 6-1 before the game ended less than 2 minutes later (dying because i got splashed at 37 HP by a PLC)...I felt bad for the first time in a while trying to run them...I guess I'm just not good with them haha They take lots of freaking time. It took me maybe 2 or 3 months before I really felt like I could knife competently, and that took a knifing event to get me there. Yeah I'm just a much better SGer than anything else...i wish it translated a little bit better to the knives lol, i try to run em like i would my SG and people just backpedal...so frustrating...and I'm awful with the ACR so i think I'm gonna switch back to the regular one cause its like a mini shotgun in a way (~100 damage per burst on armor with proficiency)
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2052
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:59:00 -
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My opinion on the optics--Perfect if you snipe from inside of 350 meters
Terrible if you're a redline camper or even rooftop camper
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:13:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:My opinion on the optics--Perfect if you snipe from inside of 350 meters
Terrible if you're a redline camper or even rooftop camper I'm a redline camper and most of my targets are under 350m and some in their redline. I like to do things backwards. I camp next to the enemy redline. I actually find that the best place to be esp. if you're constantly moving, simply because no one looks for you there
Also, i just played a few matches, and holy **** I am loving the NK's again
out of the 8 1v1s I had with SGers I only lost one, which is amaze balls cause i wasn't running SG...and i swear i NKed this same sentinel 6 times in a row, and when he respawned he literally just spun in a circle and fired his HMG...it was the most priceless thing I've ever seen, wish i could have recorded it
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2053
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:15:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:My opinion on the optics--Perfect if you snipe from inside of 350 meters
Terrible if you're a redline camper or even rooftop camper Perhaps this is why I like them better; I've been testing in Ambush rather than at long range. Makes sense...its a LOT easier to line up the shots (almost feels like Destiny sniping except a lot worse), but i can see why the redline campers don't like it---much harder to use at 500 meters away because the dot is less precise than the old pinpoint thing.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and i swear i NKed this same sentinel 6 times in a row, and when he respawned he literally just spun in a circle and fired his HMG...it was the most priceless thing I've ever seen, wish i could have recorded it
You're lucky he didn't have a Burst! Several matches back Quicksaint (old buddy ... heavy back before it was cool) was rolling around in a Death Taxi. Ass. Proto Sentinel + Proto Burst HMG ... in a Death Taxi. He was cleanin' up. It was funny. Anyhow, tried to sneak up on his car after he'd hopped out ... you know, leave a present for him on the seat. Got caught me in the act, REs in hand. BAM! Lights out. Faster than I could say f*ck. Anyone else get tagged by one of these things yet? Yeah anything that can kill a sentinel in 3 shots from 25 meters away is something i stay very far away from hahaha...
But TBH i haven't found anyone running em yet
They were OP before this patch IMHO, now they just seem ridiculous if you have quarter decent aim
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:36:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and i swear i NKed this same sentinel 6 times in a row, and when he respawned he literally just spun in a circle and fired his HMG...it was the most priceless thing I've ever seen, wish i could have recorded it
You're lucky he didn't have a Burst! Several matches back Quicksaint (old buddy ... heavy back before it was cool) was rolling around in a Death Taxi. Ass. Proto Sentinel + Proto Burst HMG ... in a Death Taxi. He was cleanin' up. It was funny. Anyhow, tried to sneak up on his car after he'd hopped out ... you know, leave a present for him on the seat. Got caught me in the act, REs in hand. BAM! Lights out. Faster than I could say f*ck. Anyone else get tagged by one of these things yet? Yeah anything that can kill a sentinel in 3 shots from 25 meters away is something i stay very far away from hahaha... But TBH i haven't found anyone running em yet They were OP before this patch IMHO, now they just seem ridiculous if you have quarter decent aim Been using a Burst on my Min Sentinel. It's great. I speed tank and shield tank my sentinel so that it can tank ScR users (Min gets resist vs. Laser on their shields, and I have plenty of armor too. Amarr find it hard to kill the Sentinel with Lasers). The Burst just SHREDS people. Hmm...i may or may not skill up HMGs for my MLT minnie heavy....when does it get two low slots? adv or proto?
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Posted - 2014.08.14 04:41:00 -
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My fit would be two comp kin cats, shield extender, and energizer
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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2061
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Posted - 2014.08.14 17:15:00 -
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Guys....less than 2 more pages to 1000
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:43:00 -
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What if i claimed post 20k?
Oh the rage
I think Id make it a post dedicated to a 50% kin cat bonus to min scouts
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:45:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:*SoTa walks in, takes a look around the room*
+50 +50 +50 +50 +50 +50 +50
yup, still easy. One does not simply walk into the Barbershop.
In other words, prepare your anus.
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What if i claimed post 20k? Oh the rage I think Id make it a post dedicated to a 50% kin cat bonus to min scouts Remember, there's two special posts coming up, 20k and the first one of page 1000 Aren't they the same?
Goddamit Appia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Spademan wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Good work.
Our job here is done.
Or not. I don't think we have another metric to beat. 10,000 obiviously
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:50:00 -
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The race is on for post 20k...time for XPLAKing
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:51:00 -
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So sad I'm not on the registry
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:The race is on for post 20k...time for XPLAKing Can't just do it for the sake of doing it. Needs to be some finesse, each one must be unconnected to the last and have a legit reason.
Fine.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:57:00 -
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Goddamit Appia I'm getting 20k
whether you like it or not!
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:58:00 -
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Come on 50% bonus for Kincats will dominate post #20,000!!!
Or just the top of page LOOL
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Roner General wrote:Sc Ou TS r G a y LULZ xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 420 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD tru "And with that one post, Roner General broke the Forums."
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PoP SoTa wrote:I'm sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you through all the whistling noises coming out of the holes in your chest. I'd aim for the scouts head, but we all know how small that really is. I think you will be my knives #1 target if i can find you in game.
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Spademan wrote:Where's Cross? We should get him to see if CCP will give us something special for 1000 pages. Everyone whose name is on the front page or has contributed at least 100 posts should receive a CreoDron Shotgun and an Ishukone Nova Knives BPO Agreed
Name the knives "The Barber's Blades" Ishukone Nova Knives
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Matticus Monk wrote:Aw man... definitely should get a BPO! I'd settle for an advanced level Pistol or SMG though.... you guyses aiming high with your proto BPO's!! How about some mid-level salvage only BPOs? Double whammy since you can't buy that stuff in the market? IA5 Tac pistol and the Specialist sniper rifle? The options are endless. CCP - so many ways to make the game cool, so many ways to make money, so many ways to make your players happy.... BPO ishnoks would be balanced...only NK's that are any good lol
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Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Played a match earlier, got run over by a tank. Kill screen/feed read "Militia Plasma Cannon" Got shot by someone else? Nope, name matched up with the Tank driver. What? I knifed a tank to death once, and the killfeed said I killed him with an assault combat rifle. FFS CCP, I can't even use the damn things, stop stealing my glory Further proof that aCR's are OP. Killing tanks when they don't even exist. In other news: Earlier some red guy jumped out of his tank for some reason, got into a firefight with a teammate and just barely won. I saw this and killed the guy just before he got back in. Like I'm pretty sure he would've pressed down on the button a nanosecond after I shot him. Anyway, like anyone would do, I pulled the ol' shanghai hijack and drove around for a bit and gunned some fools down. After the game I got mail: "I saw you driving 'round town in the tank I bought and I'm like '**** you!' " That made my day, I just lost it. I wish my mails were from funny ppl...
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MY typical fit is simply 2x kin cats 1x PD, 2x comp shields, 1x enhanced, RS-90, Ishnoks, and ADV cloak
Its fast enough for knifing, and no one has amarr scout yet so its still viable.
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Cass Caul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MY typical fit is simply 2x kin cats 1x PD, 2x comp shields, 1x enhanced, RS-90, Ishnoks, and ADV cloak
Its fast enough for knifing, and no one has amarr scout yet so its still viable. So a corp-mate of mine skilled into Amarr Scout right away. He's had it since 1.8 day 1. . . We're just getting him to skill into Precision Enhancement now . Last week he had PE skill at 3. I've got Amarr Scout Ops IV and PE V. because the ADV Amarr has 2 high slots my precision is stronger than his. Mine's 19.2 dBwhiles his is 19.4 dB. Effectively the same. 12 days till I have Amarr Scout Ops V Though, really, My Gal-Scout scans you while cloaked. I've got 21 dB scan on my Gal while cloaked you're at 22. Tie goes tot he scanner so even if you upgraded to Ishukone Cloak field you'd still be detected. Thats gay AF
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Im not a newbro, and I have trouble capping out each week....IDT Ive capped in over a month now and i play a lot
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Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:Cass Caul wrote:lol, speaking of first names Apparently, even though the cpm1 candidates had to give out their real names to run it is still a violation of the forum rules (giving out personal information) when you refer to them as such, by the way, those names are still up on the website.
*facepalm* Y'know, I just took a look and noticed you share your name with an Irish goddess. Of war and cattle, responsible for culling the weak. They don't share a nameGǪ That is Appia Also prosperity and fertility. (Irish gods do a lot of things at once, and their's a fair bit of overlap) Fertility Stay away AppiaGǪ no mojoGǪ i don't need more babies lmao
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Yeah all my kids were badasses from the day they were born
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90's guy FTW
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Spademan wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Legoose MARKII wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=173859&find=unread Chances Ghost calling nova knives OP. TIMESTAMP IT FINALLY HAPPENED! I think we made a bet somewhere about someone calling Nova Knives OP, I just can't remember with whom or how much. Beat ya by four days. GG Brah I have a pic on my phone of Bor going 54/1 or something like that with just nova knives....hahaha they're viable now in the right hands, and suck in the wrong ones (read: me)
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:LeGoose wrote:Just an FYI, this isn't going to go over any better here than it did in GD. A proto min scout with 2 complex ramps and a proto cloak can avoid all scans except for the gal logi focused scans. Ayup. And when I start seeing "You have been scanned," GalLogis start getting stabbed until I don't see that anymore. I actually had to do that in PC tonight. Gal Logi's must be exterminated with extreme prejudice. *Me chasing down a heavy with NK's* *10 meters away and sees Gallogi* *Goes after Gallogi instead*
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Spademan wrote:mollerz wrote:I don't get how people can say A/CRs are OP in anyways compared to the SCR or RR.
The ******* RR is waaay better. With a Kalalalalalaa I can flank someone in a proto cal scout and then just start drilling. The CR range is just too insufficient in a field of RRs.
With the aCR you don't even need to flank, the other guy could even flank you. The aCR doesn't care, it'll kill them anyway. I'm not saying there isn't something wrong with the rail, but the aCR is far more common and a hell of a lot more lethal. And ScR? Really? I barely see 1 a game. +1 I have both. General preference for RR as I hate firing and discovering they're just a little out of range. But the aCR is currently coming out on top and is the one I encounter most often weilded by protostompers. Thats cause you don't have to aim with it....its literally super easy mode
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Spademan wrote:mollerz wrote:I don't get how people can say A/CRs are OP in anyways compared to the SCR or RR.
The ******* RR is waaay better. With a Kalalalalalaa I can flank someone in a proto cal scout and then just start drilling. The CR range is just too insufficient in a field of RRs.
With the aCR you don't even need to flank, the other guy could even flank you. The aCR doesn't care, it'll kill them anyway. I'm not saying there isn't something wrong with the rail, but the aCR is far more common and a hell of a lot more lethal. And ScR? Really? I barely see 1 a game. I used to get killed by the BK-42. Now my death screens all say "Kaalakiota Rail Rifle", "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" or "Something Something Burst Heavy Machine Gun". EDIT: OH, and the latter two are OHKs. The Bk is only good cause of its fast RoF...it allows for ultimate spray and pray while allowing the user to maintain a very tight strafe
The Viziam is just straight up overpowered in CQC cause of the ability to spam shots with laser (hehe) accuracy
Burst HMG...dont get me started
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noob spaceman wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I've never experienced deaths around corners in dust. But the burst hmg manages to do it all the time. Frustrating. What's with the shotgun is OP talk?I think the shotgun is still shite on a cracker. It really serves no purpose for me anymore. Fine rifles are much more consistent, what people don't realize is if they killed you with a shotgun, they would have killed you faster with a fine rifle. @ OP Shotgun I suspect he's referring to usage statistics. I don't understand the cause or appeal, but we can't argue with his findings. Wonder what the Breach Shotgun looks like. This is what I'm referring to as well. It seems (anecdotally) that the SG has become a FotM weapon. And I think one of the reasons is the firing from cloak which still hasn't been fixed. GIVE HIM A COOKIE NOW. Even if we could just straight up keep cloaked while firing, id take a bug-proof SG with the RoF proficiency anyday over firing from cloak
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Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation
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Joel II X wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation I killed two cloaks with a MLT Laser Rifle today at around 30m. It was glorious. The fact that at 80 meters i can see the shimmer is ridiculous....
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voidfaction wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Greetings
read a few pages back, last time I looked in it was at the 1000 page mark...
I see you are discussing a few things that I can clarify
Cloak is not going away, we will keep trying to patch it up with further testing. I would rather not remove content.
Shotguns, lack of progression is one thing, it seems militia SG's are almost as useful as proto. Second, it's the lack of awareness, I don't know about you guys but the 3rd person sound from a shotgun is a whispery "thip, thip", to me. It doesnt sound anything like the "BLAOING" 1st person sound. It's basically "was that a shotgun, yes, it was, respawn"
I know I get killed by SG scouts all the time, but it's usually carelessness rather than OP, I'm just running over open empty space from a spawn point to the next red dot and there is a lurker who is doing nothing but camping people like me between spawn and the action. I usually don't survive two in a medium.
This is of course all pub, I can't speak to PC viability.
And to my last point on the SG, the data I'm referring to is not just FOTM, look how many people are using it. I am studying Kill/Spawn ratios and it is well above the other light weapons, right up there with Scrambler Rifle. Dividing by spawn removes FOTM aspect, it's just I get more kills on average for SG than AR f.ex.
Anything else I can clarify? Any insights/requests on the Charlie meta and balance?
Delta threads are hitting the forums imminently as well. Thanks for checking back! Shotguns aren't OP, but they only perform well against Med Frames and Scouts. They can 1-2HK anything short of a heavy. Heavies REQUIRE 3-4 shots to kill. Most of the time, they can quickly turn and kill you before that final shot. Even worse if they have rep. Sound could use some improvement. Most of us have ears tuned in for it though, but for newbro's it must be quite a surprise. Not surprised about the SG kill data. It is used to STOMP pubs hard due to all the blueberries in MLT frames (Which can all be OHK). I doubt that it would carry over to PC. Right now, the deadliest things in PC are small missile turrets, Burst HMG's and Combat Rifles (With shotguns coming in a behind them.)
As for fixing the cloak? I honestly think that the best way to fix it is to simply make it impossible to use as a "Sneak Attack" weapon. For example, give it a very long cloaking and de-cloak time. Like 2-3 seconds. Which you can't "Switch out of". You have to click the button to turn it off. However, to balance it, you give it no shimmer. It makes you almost totally invisible. This will turn the cloak into an Insertion and Removal tool. Used to sneak in and around, not to sneak right up on top of someone and unleash doom into their back. You would cloak to get in, and then use flanking and dampening to maneuver around targets (combined with eWAR modules). You get what I'm saying? I'm more than happy to reply with clarification. Only problem I would have with less shimmer is now that ALL scouts can achieve 14db with cloak ther is no counter to double invisible scouts. less shimmer for less dampening bonus the cloak has to have a counter and scouts already have no counter to profile because even though many don't choose to 14db is possible while cloaked. Its called eyes...the counter to a dual dampened scout isn't going to be you being able to track him through walls--he sacrificed a lot to get under scans, and is very easy to kill
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Posted - 2014.08.31 23:32:00 -
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Snipers need to be killable by all weapons--thats just how it works. Every other role in the game (aside from vehicles) allows you to be killed by any weapon in the game. Why should equipping a specific weapon in your light weapon slot make you any different?
Look, personally, I wish they just removed the redline and made it so that if the enemy team got redlined, random spawns would appear on the map (OMS installations that would randomly drop already hacked). This would solve soooo many problems, and snipers wouldn't need a range reduction.
However, 600m is unnecessary, ridiculous, and allows for unfair gameplay for all parties involved. Being uncountable to everything other than suicide ADS runs is ridiculous, and defending that mechanic is moronic. The ability to be invulnerable to everything needs to be fixed. I acknowledge that snipers are in a terribad place right now, and are completely non-viable outside of pubs, but before they can be buffed into viability, the mechanics and meta themselves need to be fixed.
I do, however, support a HS multiplier buff so that heavies and slow moving mediums can be killed because pinging a couple head shots into them would be a lot easier, while scouts can be bodyshotted to death.
Following a range nerf, a damage buff would be a good follow up to a HS multiplier buff, IMHO.
Defending redline sniping is just like defending pre-nerf tanking--the only counter is to use it yourself.
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Cass Caul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote: It's simple math really, fix the game so it's as balanced and fun as possible, i.e. no blatant FOTM, matchmaking, rewards etc by changing backend values. Then use all the information and feedback we have to fix bugs and change content we can only do with a client update, when and if we believe it will be the right thing to do. Stabilize and grow.
Speaking of FoTM, had you decided on what the Projectile Damage profile should be? Because I think most need to be changed. Explosive: -15/+15 Projectile: -10/+10 Rail: -5/+5 Blaster: +5/-5 Pulse: +10/-10 Beam: +15/-15 Because if Hybrid is split into 2 categories so should laser weapons *whistles innocently after proposing personal agenda* This actually makes a lot of sense...Hybrid become..well hybrid weapons,capable of taking armor and shield easily
Minmitar weapons become anti-armor, whereas Amarr remain anti shield, and the two mirror each other
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If there was a BPO min scout, Id buy it, no questions asked.
If it came with a sexy BPO SMG...
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I don't even know what you guys talk about anymore lol
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One Eyed King wrote:Why are my Fantasy Football drafts always so anxiety ridden?
Am I the only one that does these things? Nope
Who do you have so far?
Finally a part of the conversation i can contribute to
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Why are my Fantasy Football drafts always so anxiety ridden?
Am I the only one that does these things? Nope Who do you have so far? Finally a part of the conversation i can contribute to QB Nick Foles RB Giovani Bernard RB DeMarco Murry WR Roddy White WR Torrey Smith TE Julius Thomas Flex Lamar Miller K Greg Zuerlien DEF Kansas City BN Reggie Wayne, Bernard Pierce, Miles Austin, Markus Wheaton, Ben Rothlesberger, Jonathan Stewart WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TAKE NICK FOLES??!
Rookie mistake King
Cam Newton has always been an unsung hero for fantasy he's who Im going with lol
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Shared passives removed, backpedal at 90%, and dampening requirements reduced would make me very happy.
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They can remove cloaks if I'm unscannable with only a single damp
Also, wed need passives removed, but scouts getting a range buff to 45m with max passives
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Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Mollerz makes excellent points.
Want to invoke sprint bug? Fumble with your EQ. Works like a charm : /
Suggestions, gentlemen? Yes. I say at the very least no added cloak delay until the sprint bug is fixed. The more I think about it, the more I don't want that double whammy. I should at least be able to be mobile for that second delay, and I am noticing slower and slower movement now that I am nearly perpetually knifing. The big offender here is the shotgun. Rather than tweaking cloak, what if we tweaked the shotgun's draw time? Dont **** with my shotgun. Period.
Give me back my RoF bonus and maybe ill talk.
Also, the SG + cloak tactic is only good in pubs. It simply does not work well in any competitive setting.
The people complaining literally just do not have situational awareness or understanding of how to counter a CQC fighter.
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Cass Caul wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Yall realize the blade dancer has that little animation too right? It's more the throwing knife that I hate. Warlock and Titan have OHKO melee or if you're outside the range of hitting someone it'll instantly recharge. I feel like I should be within melee range, but then the knife gets thrown instead. The animation for throwing the knife is a lot longer than anyone else's melee animation so it really screws you over. I love the knife, but just think it should be more powerful
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2354139#post2354139
i needed to address some glaring balance issues. Hopefully CCP listens to me, the true voice of the scru...er..people!
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GD is just making me madder and madder each time i log on here...its literally 3 people making 7 QQ threads about scouts per hour, and all of them are terribad scrubs...its just so...frustrating.
Someone help me.
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:GD is just making me madder and madder each time i log on here...its literally 3 people making 7 QQ threads about scouts per hour, and all of them are terribad scrubs...its just so...frustrating.
Someone help me. You have to get to a point where you just stop caring about what they say. Some people are just trolls, and they get off on making you angry. Don't give them the satisfaction. No id be fine if they were trolling, but they're not, they're dead serious.
Thats what pisses me off.
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First Prophet wrote:How do I get into Nos Nothi? I sent an app in, but whoever's in charge of that hasn't accepted me in yet and needs to get his **** together. Who is you?
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Flaylock got a nerf for ninjas....its now 4 6 10 in PG usage which is ridiculous.
I was looking forward to being able to use a proto weapon on my ninja for once :(
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Flaylock got a nerf for ninjas....its now 4 6 10 in PG usage which is ridiculous.
I was looking forward to being able to use a proto weapon on my ninja for once :( I can run a proto knife on my M-1 with a PG enhancer. I don't see a real problem here. With a PG enhancer, every gal amarr or even caldari scout worth their salt will scan you.
PG enhancer only really work on assaults and Logis which have the slots to spare.
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CCP Rattati wrote:Numbers aren't final, chip in your thoughts. I am worried though about the "Bolt pistol is fine", vs bolt pistol needs a big buff.
Moody is 2 and 3 shotting people at 60 m in his review and that's pretty good.
what about a headshot dmg and nothing else? I personally say that the RoF needs to be increased, or the amount of time between shots decreased. The people being 2-3 shotted are more likely than not scouts or weak mediums.
Id say that a HS multiplier would be nice too tho, and perhaps we can work from there.
The real DPS of the bolt pistol is something around 250 IIRC, because of charge time stacking on top of delay between shots.
Also, PLEASE reconsider the flay lock fitting nerf. Minmatar suits are low PG high CPU suits, so it makes no sense that our pistol should have a higher PG cost than the Gallente (High PG low CPU) ion pistol.
Please return the PG back to where it was, and perhaps raise CPU a bit.
The weapon is in so dire need of a buff (even more than ion IMHO due to its low mag size as well as not being hit scan), that it would honestly be fine to just buff it and call it a day. The increased projectile speed with minimal splash radius buff and low mag size will make it a skillshot weapon already, making a fitting nerf a poor choice.
The pirate minja should be a thing, IMHO, and with the still poor fitting capabilities of the suit, the huge PG costs of the flay lock will castrate the build's viability before it could even come out.
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Numbers aren't final, chip in your thoughts. I am worried though about the "Bolt pistol is fine", vs bolt pistol needs a big buff.
Moody is 2 and 3 shotting people at 60 m in his review and that's pretty good.
what about a headshot dmg and nothing else? I personally say that the RoF needs to be increased, or the amount of time between shots decreased. The people being 2-3 shotted are more likely than not scouts or weak mediums. Id say that a HS multiplier would be nice too tho, and perhaps we can work from there. The real DPS of the bolt pistol is something around 250 IIRC, because of charge time stacking on top of delay between shots. Also, PLEASE reconsider the flay lock fitting nerf. Minmatar suits are low PG high CPU suits, so it makes no sense that our pistol should have a higher PG cost than the Gallente (High PG low CPU) ion pistol. Please return the PG back to where it was, and perhaps raise CPU a bit. The weapon is in so dire need of a buff (even more than ion IMHO due to its low mag size as well as not being hit scan), that it would honestly be fine to just buff it and call it a day. The increased projectile speed with minimal splash radius buff and low mag size will make it a skillshot weapon already, making a fitting nerf a poor choice. The pirate minja should be a thing, IMHO, and with the still poor fitting capabilities of the suit, the huge PG costs of the flay lock will castrate the build's viability before it could even come out. It needs PG though, that is a requirement of any balance pass we make, to stop with the zero PG/CPU. It's too messy. The "it's a Minmatar Weapon so needs low PG" is also very hard to balance, since any race can use it. But I hear you, we can maybe tone it down. That'd be great...if the progression went 2-3-5 and CPU costs were increased a lot, I think that'd be fair, though I agree, its a difficult thing to balance.
But think about it as a SA PLC....that thing actually has no PG costs, but the CPU is very high.
If you make it like that, it fits minmitar suits like a charm, which IMHO is the ideal situation, each weapons fittings playing to their respective race's suits' fitting strengths.
If anything though, it should cost less PG than the ion pistol and ScrP...thats just something that strikes me as very inconsistent that the race with the lowest PG and highest CPU has a higher PG costing weapon that the races with the highest PG...
Just food for thought.
Good luck on the decision, Ill try to keep my feedback as unbiased and analytical as possible
Thanks for working with us Rattati
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I dont understand why they fear making the flay lock viable
It needs a 4 clip size, low PG costs, at LEAST a 1.75 blast radius (2 would be better), and the originally proposed damage.
That would make it a viable weapon in comparison to the bolt and scrambler pistol next patch
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3-4 shot clip, buff damage per pellet by 4 for all but basic, and increase effective and optimal range.
Then, it might be a decent weapon.
Rewarding for hitting, very penalizing for missing.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:I'm in favor of increasing logistics scan range. Doesn't seem too abusable, but that remains to be seen I guess. Hypothetical (min/max): Assuming a base scan range buff from 15m to 18m, a pure EWAR GA Logi could scan ~81m at a precision of 24 dB; this represents a maximum increase of roughly 13m in range. Fit to perform same function, EWAR Scout performance is as follows: CA Scout - 91m @ 20 dB (superior to buffed Logi) GA Scout - 86m @ 21 dB (superior to buffed Logi) AM Scout - 86m @ 18 dB (superior to buffed Logi)
Personal Opinion: Zero abuse potential. It may appease the anti-scout slayer logi community as well
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:I believe I mentioned this a few pages back, but I think scan range extenders should be buffed (possibly other EWAR mods).
Sadly I don't have time to go into details at the moment. Essentially my thinking was, that instead of limiting scout suit's ability to fit like a light assault, CCP make it easier for assault suits to do the same.
Tank modules are very effective, hence why scout suits stacking hp can become an "assault light" suit without too much difficulty. You get decent hp from modules and good regen, speed and EWAR from scout base stats. This is a very good fit for solo slaying as EWAR is very effective. Sadly if an assault wants to do the same thing by fitting EWAR and regen mods instead of tank it is more difficult as EWAR mods are poor in comparison to tank mods.
If it only took 1 range extender to give an assault a scan range approaching a scout I think that would be balanced. Nobody could complain about tanked scouts if an assault can make the same fit (same with logis).
Currently assault suits are kind of limited in fitting options as EWAR mods are ineffective for them. Buffing range extenders opens up more passive scanning fitting opportunities for medium suits and gives more reason for mediums to use dampeners, adding to variety.
I managed to make a good approximation of a tanked scout using a min assault suit, but it was let down by having to fit 2 comp range extenders to get to a scout suit's base scan range. Scanning is not really much use bellow about 25m i feel. I'm inclined to agree. Build diversity is healthy, and Assaults are currently afforded precisely zero reason to ever use a Range Extender. If it paid them utility comparable to that of plates or reps, perhaps they'd use it in pubs (though I strongly doubt they'd use it in PC). That said, I'm under the impression from Cross here that Logis are the suits in need of hugs ... namely something they can be made good at which won't overlap too far into the role of an existing specialist. Assaults are exceptionally good in their role at the moment (kicking arse) ... do they actually need free hugs? After the MCC the number of assault players will skyrocket
Particularly minmitar and amarr.
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For radar--directional should only show if your scan precision is 60% or lower of their profile
So scout with max skills can directional an unskilled heavy but nothing else, sees everything else as a dot that is 36 db or over
Am scout with a prec. of 17 can directional anything 28.3 db or over
Will really add some more balance to the game and hopefully cease the endless flow of scrubby tears
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The bolt pistol is actually amazing...i was using it in PC's earlier and this thing eats lightning and ***** thunder.
One SG shot, back jump, switch to BP and one shot body shot kills even the brickiest of the bricks in terms of scouts.
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Hate to say it but scouts w/ shotguns are broken. Was in a pc yesterday and I **** you not, at least 8 people on my team were running it. Almost all the 1337 players have switched to it. Don't know who you played but sounds like both teams were terrible. Without REs they're still just fodder for encamped HMGs. It's so easy to counter. Murphy's Law with a squad of FA This is how the pecking order goes--
HMG Heavy>Assault Assault>Scout RE/SG Scout RE/SG>HMG heavy
This is pretty much the way it works in PC's
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Appia Nappia wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Hate to say it but scouts w/ shotguns are broken. Was in a pc yesterday and I **** you not, at least 8 people on my team were running it. Almost all the 1337 players have switched to it. Don't know who you played but sounds like both teams were terrible. Without REs they're still just fodder for encamped HMGs. It's so easy to counter. Murphy's Law with a squad of FA lol, so the answer is, "yes they are terrible." Murphy's Law is a joke. Riding on the coat tails of Espeon's ERA leadership only without him to carry that corp. Who even shows up from FA? I saw most of their top players in Destiny all day yesterday. Im not a top player?
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176665&find=unread
Thoughts?
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:Cass Caul wrote: And Jace learns the lesson that a scanned Scout is a dead Scout I see so many scouts talk about their triple kincat fits. I don't know how the **** they get away with it, but I never do. The trick is to use the speed to quite literally stun your enemy...always assume they can track you through walls, so stay VERY close to cover at all times, and make sure to check your 6 constantly.
Don't even bother using a cloak, all it does is encourage immobility which will kill you. IF you stop moving, you die.
If someone engages you with a ranged weapon from behind, get to cover ASAP.
Also, precisions are your friend. They'll help you get out of what would be 2/3v1s not in your favor.
Use a SG, not knives. The SG benefits more so than the knives do.
Run links to help your team, and STAY OUT OF THE OPEN.
I run a triple KC fit for PC on occasion, and actually find it to be very good. Your main target is Logis that link spam or other scouts, since you can outflank anyone in the game.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/8145
here it is.
Don't take on heavies.
And yes, I do actually run this in PC's
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Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Alder King wrote: If only passives were personal. And the hall logi bonus wasn't to precision, medium grants could use dampeners again Shared passives are a thorn in my side. But I think that is a client side update, which is why we had to ask for the adjustments to scouts like we did. It would be nice if Medium frames could have some EWAR incentive as well. If we get a client update, we should push for disabling shared passives as well as Gav's suggestion: Precision >= Profile :: Position painted to TacNet Precision >> Profile :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet Active Scanned :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet + flux depletes cloak reserves + eject buttons for vehicles + slower entry/exit vehicle + "fog of war" haze at redline What else is on the Christmas wishlist? Shotty are you feeling ok? You just suggested we use one of my ideas
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Alder King wrote: If only passives were personal. And the hall logi bonus wasn't to precision, medium grants could use dampeners again Shared passives are a thorn in my side. But I think that is a client side update, which is why we had to ask for the adjustments to scouts like we did. It would be nice if Medium frames could have some EWAR incentive as well. If we get a client update, we should push for disabling shared passives as well as Gav's suggestion: Precision >= Profile :: Position painted to TacNet Precision >> Profile :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet Active Scanned :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet + flux depletes cloak reserves + eject buttons for vehicles + slower entry/exit vehicle + "fog of war" haze at redline What else is on the Christmas wishlist? Shotty are you feeling ok? You just suggested we use one of my ideas Yeah, its weird for me to. This is why I think you have someone feeding them to you. Like your own Cyrano. LOL
Great book/play/whatever BTW Cyrano is...highly recommend it. The first time i read it was entirely in French.
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Alder King wrote: If only passives were personal. And the hall logi bonus wasn't to precision, medium grants could use dampeners again Shared passives are a thorn in my side. But I think that is a client side update, which is why we had to ask for the adjustments to scouts like we did. It would be nice if Medium frames could have some EWAR incentive as well. If we get a client update, we should push for disabling shared passives as well as Gav's suggestion: Precision >= Profile :: Position painted to TacNet Precision >> Profile :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet Active Scanned :: Position and Orientation painted to TacNet + flux depletes cloak reserves + eject buttons for vehicles + slower entry/exit vehicle + "fog of war" haze at redline What else is on the Christmas wishlist? Shotty are you feeling ok? You just suggested we use one of my ideas I was about to say the same thing to you. I haven't seen a heavy hate thread in days. Or even a give minmatar scouts a 5000% bonus to everything. Eh i still hate them. Skilless scrubs filling up every PC corp in existence spamming HMG's all over inside of cities everywhere...but I think CCP did something right with them at least. They certainly aren't as bad as before *shudders*
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Appia Nappia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote: I haven't seen a heavy hate thread in days. Or even a give minmatar scouts a 5000% bonus to everything. Eh i still hate them. Skilless scrubs filling up every PC corp in existence spamming HMG's all over inside of cities everywhere...but I think CCP did something right with them at least. They certainly aren't as bad as before *shudders* Three words perfectly sum up the quick and easy solution to this problem: Allotek Plasma Cannon 1.8k HP on an Amarr heavy says **** you PLC
It also laughs and instagibs you before you have time to line up a shot
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Appia Nappia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote: I haven't seen a heavy hate thread in days. Or even a give minmatar scouts a 5000% bonus to everything. Eh i still hate them. Skilless scrubs filling up every PC corp in existence spamming HMG's all over inside of cities everywhere...but I think CCP did something right with them at least. They certainly aren't as bad as before *shudders* Three words perfectly sum up the quick and easy solution to this problem: Allotek Plasma Cannon 1.8k HP on an Amarr heavy says **** you PLC It also laughs and instagibs you before you have time to line up a shot Fine, more than 2 words: Scout mk.0 3x Complex Light Weapon Damage Modifiers Allotek Plasma Cannon, proficiency IV+, fitting optimization II+ Boundless Breach Submachine Gun, proficiency III+ Flux Grenade Ishukone Cloak Field; Nanohive 2x Complex Profile Dampeners; Complex Kinetic Catalyzer You've got a range of 200m, if you can't approach and line up a shot with a cloak from within that range you should probably just give up and stick to the weapons with Aim Assist. Tbh id use the PLC with a BP
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One Eyed King wrote:A) I would like to see lower tier shotguns doing less damage.
B) I think they really need to fix shotgun HD before they can adjust damage, RoF etc.
C) I don't really have a C, but I just wanted something more than just A and B. Agreed. It makes no sense that the basic NK's do less than a basic SG shot....
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Seriously though, don't touch my ADV shotgun. It is PERFECT where it is. If it gets nerfed at all, then a CR or Spambler will be better in every way.
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Nobody respond to this thread please... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2399216#post2399216
Id like to see it die a painful death.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Wish I'd read this earlier and not gotten sucked into contributing to it. His methods crack me up. Fact: The sky is purple. And here's how we should change it.- No, I don't think the sky is purple, Magnus. Lies! Conspiracy! Trolls!- .... (?) No response!? I knew it. The sky must be purple.- Dude, the sky isn't purple. Its blue. Prove its not purple! Defend yourself!- Just look up, Magnus. Its blue. Its obvious. Liar! Repeating your lies doesn't make them true!- ... Sounds about right
I legitimately believe he may be trolling...I don't think there is really anyone that stupid to be serious about what he's saying.
I thought he might be serious at first, but I'm calling troll now.
Its just not possible to be THAT stupid
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One Eyed King wrote:Haerr wrote: I am very interested in the CPM members POVs on how to go about hampering the over performance in pub matches of Scout + Cloak + Shotgun / Knives.
I didn't know Knives were a problem... I have yet to hear it anyways. Are you kidding me?
According to every easy mode Sentinel, knives are the most overpowered weapon in the game.
Also, I fail to see how scouts are over performing in pubs...TBQH i find that, in pubs, my ADV minmitar sentinel out performs my PRO minmitar scout, from an ISK efficiency perspective as well as raw contribution to the team in holding down points and assaulting them.
But thats also due to broken heavy strafing that I abuse.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Wish I'd read this earlier and not gotten sucked into contributing to it. His methods crack me up. Fact: The sky is purple. And here's how we should change it.- No, I don't think the sky is purple, Magnus. Lies! Conspiracy! Trolls!- .... (?) No response!? I knew it. The sky must be purple.- Dude, the sky isn't purple. Its blue. Prove its not purple! Defend yourself!- Just look up, Magnus. Its blue. Its obvious. You're biased against purple, aren't you? Prove you aren't!- ... Hmm i think it may be time for some anti-Magnus satire...
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I legitimately believe he may be trolling...
He isn't trolling. IDK...it may be Knight Solaire pulling a fast one on us
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I legitimately believe he may be trolling...
He isn't trolling. IDK...it may be Knight Solaire pulling a fast one on us You can kind of tell when it is him. This dude is taking his fool idea too seriously for it to be a troll. But seriously... "No scout should be able to dodge scans unless they sacrifice all 4 low slots and wear a proto cloak. If you don't have four low slots than you are specialized for something else and shouldn't be able to dodge scans. But, even then, I think you should be perma scanned if someone invested 700k SP into prototype active scanners."
Tell me that thats not a troll.
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Shotty dont respond to magnus' thread...im bumping every other one to put it onto the 2nd or third page of F&D.
You can help if you want.
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mollerz wrote:There's even a player in there advocating scouts should only have sidearms. Are we regressing to that now?
Bet your bottom dollar that same dude will say sidearms shouldn't kill.
We should almost start a nerf heavy thread. Even if it's a parody if you could fine tune it so you sucked them into a debate it would be just desserts. I bet they don't even come in here. Id do it, but Iv already made so many that everyone just recognizes it as a troll thread even if its somewhat serious.
If someone else makes one, Ill give you some good advice on how to make it very very satirical.
TBQH, I feel that the the game is mostly balanced.
The best slayer suit is the Assault The best alpha strike suit is the scout The best 1v1 brawler is the Sentinel The best AV and suppression is the realm of the commando (though they could use some buffs) The best support remains the Logi, tho they could use some slight eWar tweaks, given their low HP
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Adipem Nothi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote: Will even harsher speed penalties on plates accomplish two things, slow down brick tanked scouts and make Commandos the same HP as brick tanked Aesaults yet naturally faster at the same eHP?
Heavies previously indicated that they wouldn't be able to hop over curbs if we slowed them down further. Apart from this, I *personally like the idea. * Can't speak for the others on this; there's been a distinct lack of consensus. What are your thoughts, Appia? I like it, I wish there was a way to say that if a plate was on a heavy frame, it gave lesser penalties, normal on assault, and more on scout.
Same for the shields, I feel.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Everyone
I truly believe Haerr is on to something; the more I think about his suggestion, the more I like it:
If Cloak is Active, set Scan Range = 0.
I think this would make gameplay much more interesting for us. What do you guys think?
@ Cross Atu (or CPM1)
Before we put too many eggs into this basket, it'd be great to know if this can be accomplished via Hotfix. Coding is in place for Cloak to adjust a user's Scan Profile when active. Does existing code permit room to also adjust Scan Range and/or Scan Precision? If not, can existing logic be redirected to point to a metric other than Scan Profile, such as Scan Range or Scan Precision?
o7 Makes sense from lore perspective, and it is true, the activation affects one scanning attribute. Very interesting proposal indeed. Standing Concerns: * Diminishes value of hacking-while-cloaked * Makes the scout's job of clearing Uplinks more difficult Potential Remedies (also Haerr's idea ): * Set Scan Precision = 99 dB when cloaked (instead of Scan Range = 0m) * Set EQ Scan Profile = 99 dB
Note: If the cloak:active method can only access one scan variable, we may need to tweak Profile Damps to maintain current hunter/hunted interplay at the low-end of the dB spectrum ... examples: 15 dB - GA Logi + Focused (vs) max-damped CA/MN/AM Scout 18 dB - Max-Precision AM Scout (vs) 2x damped MN/AM Scout Cloaking is compromised as is...I don't see a reason to make it any worse TBH. If something like this happened, id like to actually be invisible, and to get a better dampening bonus.
Then Id be all for it.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:52:00 -
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I think instead of having all these huge changes, we could just go with something like what I said in my post [link here]. It makes a lot more sense, reduces binary nature, and allows med frames to participate much more in eWAR.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175921
Also, please normalize cloaking dampening at 10%. It makes balance a lot easier, as the only scout capable of fitting a proto cloak is a proto scout, and it has to be on for the dampening to apply, but two precisions can fit easily on any scout and are on 24/7. If we balance around a 10% dampening cloak, all scouts should have access to a 10% dampening cloak
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like it, I wish there was a way to say that if a plate was on a heavy frame, it gave lesser penalties, normal on assault, and more on scout.
Same for the shields, I feel.
Oh, better idea. Let's not do that. Why not?
I do see that the penalties do affect scouts more (=% on ># =>penalty), but I do think that that'll satisfy the bloodthirsty "nerf whatever killed me" cries.
And lets be honest for a second. If you are running plates with more than a 1% speed penalty on a scout, you're kinda fucking yourself over.
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Right away--If the above^^were to take place, Min scouts couldn't use a single codebreaker or Kincat in a PC. Thats not fair at all.
EDIT: I may have algebra'd wrong...one sec.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Right away--If the above^^were to take place, Min scouts couldn't use a single codebreaker or Kincat in a PC. Thats not fair at all.
EDIT: I may have algebra'd wrong...one sec. Use my math. Its in the spreadsheet. MinScout + 2 damps comes to 17 dB (constant). but doesn't that go to them getting scanned by Amarr?
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Appia Nappia wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Appia Nappia wrote: Yup. Gallente neds the racial dampening to 4% as well
The GalScout cannot presently beat the Focused Scanner with two damps. At 4% per level, the GalScout can beat the Focused Scanner with two damps. We're not trying to sneak in a GalScout buff :-)
@ 4% per level, he goes to 18 / 14 / 12 for Damps 1-3. Yet, you're willing to buff the Caldari scout. Racial parity with the ******* dampening bonus. It was the Gallente Scout's to begin with, no reason the Gallente Scout should have a shittier version of both dampening and precision at the same time. Id be fine with a slight gal scout buff, mainly because 2 dampeners is a solid investment into dampening...if your scout is the dampening scout it seems fair. Those 2 low slots that it gains allow it to use biotics range amps or light plates.
Personally, RN, my Gal scout fitting (alt) is 2x shields, 2x damps, 2x Kincats. This wouldn't change it.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:03:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:In some ways, wouldn't this be an indirect nerf to Amarr scanning?
As it stands, if I have 2 Damps and a proto cloak, I have to have my cloak active for an Amarr not to pick me up.
If we made this change, I would simply just beat the Amarr. There would be no penalty for deactivating cloak or running out of juice.
Am I reading that wrong? Good point. Wed also see a lot more shield tanking as precision would once again be pretty much useless on anything that planned on using a cloak
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:40:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote: If Haerr's cloak fixes went through, you can bet your patootie Minjas will go back to irrelevance. I cannot fathom that cloaks are so OP that we should be forced to be BLINDER THAN A HEAVY with as low as a tenth of their HP. It is just inconceivable to me, especially the more I think about the implications.
It'll be fun! It's like submarine warfare :-) Like Iggy was saying though, we'll be able to actively manage the blindness by flipping cloak off and on. Frankly, I see my MinScout benefiting from the proposal. Fitting a proto cloak is tough. It'd no longer be a requirement. Th sonly problem is one dampener min scouts, which I run a lot with 2 kin cats, or a kincat+codebreaker...Something tells me that this will make them worse than with the ADV cloak....
If my min scout gets any more scannable, Im just going to go assault. Its becoming nicer and nicer of an option every day.
Why can't we just standardize the cloak at 10% dampening at all tiers, and be done with it?
If it works, don't fix it. Thats the system we are currently in.
The 10% dampening just allows more scouts to get in on what we proposed were the balancing mechanics, which seem to work quite nicely.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
Remind me again, what is the major problem that we are trying to fix?
Shotgun Scout. Lol ... kinda got carried away, eh? Wish there was something we could do about the hacking drawback ... :: thinking cap :: Why is the shotgun scout so bad, exactly?
It has nearly 0 range, and is easily counter able by strafing (single fire, slow RoF makes it much harder to hit with than a full auto weapon in CQC) in addition to simply jumping backwards.
Why are we bending over for people who are still living in slayer logi lala land?
Why are we focusing on nerfing the scout when the best slayers in this game right now are HMG heavies and Assaults?
Its beyond my comprehension.
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mollerz wrote:It's true. Outside of a select few elite shotgunners is it really a problem? I say we just nerf TTW and take away his LW slot for him and him alone
Seriously though, he really is the only shotgunner in this game (beside myself of course ) thats any good
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Th sonly problem is one dampener min scouts, which I run a lot with 2 kin cats, or a kincat+codebreaker...Something tells me that this will make them worse than with the ADV cloak....
Something tells you, Gav? Something tells me you are weighing in on the spreadsheet without looking at the spreadsheet. Current Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp + Adv Cloak Proposed Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp ADv cloak should put you at 22....
31.5*.75*.95=22.4, which rounds to 22.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:mollerz wrote:It's true. Outside of a select few elite shotgunners is it really a problem? Last we heard from Rattati its really a real problem. Even if it weren't though, I'd still dig Haerr's idea :-) If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again.
Its OK as is.
The only OP it is is On Par with fine rifles as an infantry slayer.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Th sonly problem is one dampener min scouts, which I run a lot with 2 kin cats, or a kincat+codebreaker...Something tells me that this will make them worse than with the ADV cloak....
Something tells you, Gav? Something tells me you are weighing in on the spreadsheet without looking at the spreadsheet. Current Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp + Adv Cloak Proposed Numbers: 23 dB - MinScout + 1 Damp ADv cloak should put you at 22.... 31.5*.75*.95=22.4, which rounds to 22. You're right! Ran it at 24 ... got 22.8. Good eye. You've found our first casualty :-) Haha my knowledge of the exact numbers on my min scout has finally paid off!
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If the SG (other than basic non-variant) gets nerfed in any way, I simply won't ever run it again.
That's the point of these talks, Gav. The Shotgun by itself is a pretty crap, but add a low-profile scout to the equation and its suddenly good. We're looking at tweaking the second part of that equation. I have shotgunned almost exclusively following my frustration and refusal to knife any more (around 1.3?), following going 2/25 against a full Q-Sync of slayer Logi's. I have always speed tanked my scout suit, and used it.
I have endured the days where a militia assault rifle was better than nova knives or a SG at 5 meters.
I have killed my fair share of "good" shotgunners with my own shotgun, and countless medium frames besides.
The first time I used a drop suit that was neither a minmitar scout or a militia drop suit was a month ago when I skilled into minmitar heavies.
I have been using my shotgun for more than a year, iirc. I have used it on a minmitar scout exclusively. I have played around 100 PC's in my career on this character, and have used a SG in probably 85-90 of them.
These^^are my credentials, as little as they matter.
From my experience, though many of you probably think that it may be little, I have come to understand that there are really just three factors that will allow you to win in a 1v1 or 1v2 scenario.
HP, positioning, and speed.
HP is HP, driver from plates and extenders. Very simple. If you don't have enough HP, you'll be killed as you flank, or when your enemy turns around.
Positioning is even more important, and can be gained from eWAR modules, with dampening to allow yourself to make a play, or precision to see when a good to move in for the kill is.
Speed is what allows you to firstly get into your positioning, eWAR aside, and secondly is necessary for the mad scramble in CQC. Even more underrated, however, is the ability to use speed to turn 2 or 3v1's into 2 or 3 1v1's.
You can't be an effective shotgunner unless you have a part of each of the three in moderation.
The current system forces you to do that.
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:25:00 -
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Just my long winded, anecdotal, unmathematical 2 cents.
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:27:00 -
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Also give me back my RoF proficiency. The weapon still doesn't feel right.
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Im going to make a satirical anti Magnus thread in F&D.
Can you guys pretend to argue with me about it so that I can show Magnus how ridiculous his method of supporting his position is?
Thats all I ask
I will provide the comic humor, and/or trolliness.
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Posted - 2014.10.15 03:34:00 -
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actually NVM, I'm too lazy.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 02:21:00 -
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Can we make a circle jerk thread about buffing scouts instead of ones being made where every non-scout sucks each other off while they talk about stuff that they literally don't understand?
That'd be nice.
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Jebus McKing wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Im going to make a satirical anti Magnus thread in F&D. Can you guys pretend to argue with me about it so that I can show Magnus how ridiculous his method of supporting his position is? Thats all I ask I will provide the comic humor, and/or trolliness. It only took 17 pages but I think we are finally moving forward. Magnus Amadeuss wrote:But I do understand how the original is flawed now. LMAO
Hes a special kind of special
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I actually think this update overall will buff scouts.
When I use a shotgun scout, I often don't go after moving targets that are strafing because with my pathetic frame rate I tend to miss them by *that* much, because the game didn't react fast enough to my correction.
Now I don't think there really is a way to dodge my scout if the frame rate is smooth. But it works in reverse as well....
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Appia Nappia wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I actually think this update overall will buff scouts.
When I use a shotgun scout, I often don't go after moving targets that are strafing because with my pathetic frame rate I tend to miss them by *that* much, because the game didn't react fast enough to my correction.
Now I don't think there really is a way to dodge my scout if the frame rate is smooth. But it works in reverse as well.... That's if they get a chance to shoot back at you. If I can instagib them 100% of the time before they can shoot back, then it doesn't work in reverse. It only works in reverse if I screw up :P Alpha damage weapons are OP because they aren't DPS weapons. Decrease damage, increase rate of fire! I, an upstanding member of ASS will not settle until the shotgun and nova knives work under the Damage Per Second premise that all rifles use! Do i detect a note of sarcasm?
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One Eyed King wrote:Hahaha. Its sad I can tell your posts before I even have confirmation.
Why do you even think that thats me?
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The video could be the greatest thing to ever come out of the simspons lol
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I log in and find that we have been infiltrated....damn.
At least theres still the basement
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Appia Nappia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGǪ it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGǪ just give a dot. How about a momentum indicator instead of directional one! THat'd be so much better. You think it's the same, then start walking backwards all the time to **** with people! LOL
I seriously like my suggestion tho....
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CCP Rattati wrote:Llast 326 wrote:You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGǪ it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGǪ just give a dot. I agree with both, yet we are not able to for 1.9. Have you seen my suggestion Rattati?
If it were possible do you think that its balanced?
EDIT: LINK
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The cloaked shotgun scout dilemma:
1. The shotgun is bad. Admit it. We all know that it is still outclassed by fine rifles except in the hands of a very elite few. 2. The cloak is bad. It shines, glows in the dark, and makes pretty colors that came out of my little sisters rainbow fairy princess drawing book, and if you can be scanned, you get a nice little red "shoot me" sign pointing to your head. In addition, were getting a fire delay in 1.9 (which is needed, i guess. It prevents people from sitting in a corner and uncloaking and instapopping every blueberry in a scrub suit that walks by. I just hope it isn't overdone. If it is anymore than what the proposed (.33s) value is, it'll be useless) 3. The scout is balanced, but if nerfed in any way, will be rendered absolutely useless except as a shared passives tool for HMG heavies or slayer assaults.
So whats my point?
The shotgun scout is balanced. People just need to realize that alpha weapons should be able to kill them, and that it isn't a scrub tactic.
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TBH guys, I'm finding myself playing HMG heavy much more than scout now.
Its easy, and doesn't require proto gear.
If you put kin cats on, you basically have an assault that can carry an HMG, albeit with lower regen and larger hit box.
And i still think that heavies are OP.
So people who are saying that all we do is play scouts, you are wrong. This is by far the most unbiased community that exists for this game.
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Cass Caul wrote:
Seriously though, it's only about 5 or 6 players that just keep posting the exact same post time after time. an IP ban of just those few people would completely stop it. And the Sentinels that play on low sensitivity. Killing a sentinel with low x-axis sensitivity is like taking candy from a baby.
This.
It literally is just 5-6 players repeating their ridiculous requests, and everyone thinks that its the next thing, so they follow.
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Gareth Verenar wrote:Cross Atu wrote:I looked around in GD for a bit today... the scout hate is strong in there. I am now confused. I do not have the strongest gun game in Dust I do not run the best slayer fits in dust (kitten, I rarely run above a STD suit) Lately I rarely even run a decently optimized fitting (for related info see the term Crossasochism) Yet, I rarely find myself killed by scouts more than assaults, granted I usually am taken down by either of those more than Sents or commandos (unless you add a logi to them) and I chuckle when a logi kills me, just like when a flaylock or LR does (oh look, one of those!) but really I am floored by the rage about scouts, I simply don't have that much trouble dealing with scout players in game (it's not like everyone is mrmustard ). I can't possibly just happen to have a play style that naturally counters scouts, can I? I think I am going to protect my logi circuits by drinking more and going back to avoiding GD GD is a s***storm magnet period. Funnily enough we could go a few days without any anti-scout crap. Heck we could go a week of "y'know I'm realizing that scouts aren't a problem". All it takes is one person to complain about scouts and make false accusations and claims and the anti-scout s***storm shall cometh. And usually it's the same people who just earlier said "scouts aren't all that bad", because they're easily swayed back to "popular" or "loudest" opinion. GD is full of sheep. Many would claim to be wolves, but it is the biggest exposition of unskilled, unadaptable players who somehow managed to convince their peers that they are actually good. How dare they get outplayed by something with less possible HP! How dare scouts have a hitbox representative of their size, they should have the same hitbox as mediums! How dare scouts rely on speed and e-war to survive in a world where whoever has the most hp and dps output generally wins! How dare they rely on alpha weaponry to kill suits that have larger hp pools in a world where otherwise dps is king! How dare scouts fit even a single HP mod to increase survivability, which seems to be GD's definition of "tanked" scout! Oh, and let's make false claims that hit detection works inherently worse against scouts. Scount OP!!!!!!!!!1111!!1!!1!!1!!1111!!!one!!!!
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So in other news, I beat Ghost Kaisar in a knife duel today, after beating him in a few shotgun duels
Someone come and stroke my e-peen
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Question about the ridiculous cloak nerf/buff- does the 85% reduction to signature profile mean that the cloak now reduces our scan profile by 85%? If so, then I wholeheartedly think that that is stupid. 25% should be the max, ever. Even with a ridiculous 85% scan range nerf, this doesn't account for the fact that scouts will not need to put ANYTHING in their lows to dampen, which is outrageous IMO.
Unless, of course, we make up for this by using range amps to replace the ridiculous nerf.
It should be a 50% reduction to range AT MOST, 25% being much more reasonable. Dampening should be 10-25% at all tiers.
Seriously, the cloak will now be worthless to equip. Unless we get more dampening or invisibility from it, I want a fuckin refund from my scout suit. If you're gonna bow down to 3 people creating alts to whine in general discussions, then the scout will never be good.
Oh well, I already have proto min assault with the SP were getting/have gotten from the sidearm event.
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Happy Halloween!
Go get ****** up, but make sure you have a ride!!
Have fun all!
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I like my new Sig
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:10:00 -
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Quick Question: Whats the general opinion on the cloak nerfs?
Try to provide a separate opinion for each one (i.e. delay and range reduction)
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:23:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Quick Question: Whats the general opinion on the cloak nerfs?
Try to provide a separate opinion for each one (i.e. delay and range reduction) Delay I am ok with, and would be even if it were longer. Range reduction I am vehemently opposed to. Would rather see shared passives go. Exactly my point of view, though I wanna see how the delay works out first before lengthening it.
Shared passives are a bane to balancing this game.
Range nerf is unnecessary and completely stupid. Haerr, why???!!!!
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I don't think people realize just how much this will castrate scouts. We no longer have dampening, and as a Minja, I NEED the cloak to dodge passives. Now the cloak will be something that people will go out of their way to avoid using, and this completely bones the Am and Min scout, rather unsurprisingly.
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One Eyed King wrote:I am not really sure how this will play out.
I see a number of people getting rid of the cloak to keep their passives. They may end up having to tank instead, and I don't think that is necessarily better.
Worse, if active scanning becomes nearly spammable again, this will do nothing to inhibit the slayer scout. I myself am thinking about throwing on a scanner instead of REs on a fit to see how that plays out.
One thing I am hopeful for is that the reduction of the sprint glitch may make a speed scout more viable. Unfortunately, I think that will favor a Gal scout who can throw on two damps, beat an Amarr scout, and throw on two Complex Kincats and some shield tank.
There are a lot of possibilities, but many are not good. Min scouts will be dead. Mark my words.
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I am not really sure how this will play out.
I see a number of people getting rid of the cloak to keep their passives. They may end up having to tank instead, and I don't think that is necessarily better.
Worse, if active scanning becomes nearly spammable again, this will do nothing to inhibit the slayer scout. I myself am thinking about throwing on a scanner instead of REs on a fit to see how that plays out.
One thing I am hopeful for is that the reduction of the sprint glitch may make a speed scout more viable. Unfortunately, I think that will favor a Gal scout who can throw on two damps, beat an Amarr scout, and throw on two Complex Kincats and some shield tank.
There are a lot of possibilities, but many are not good. Min scouts will be dead. Mark my words. That is my fear, but it can't be worse than Alpha to Charlie. True. Now we have a choice--be permascanned, or be non-viable.
Oh wait, those two are the same thing. NVM.
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:51:00 -
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Ill be a min assault. One damp puts me under vehicle scans, which is all I need. Super CR+SMG=OPness
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Posted - 2014.11.03 04:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I am not really sure how this will play out.
I see a number of people getting rid of the cloak to keep their passives. They may end up having to tank instead, and I don't think that is necessarily better.
Worse, if active scanning becomes nearly spammable again, this will do nothing to inhibit the slayer scout. I myself am thinking about throwing on a scanner instead of REs on a fit to see how that plays out.
One thing I am hopeful for is that the reduction of the sprint glitch may make a speed scout more viable. Unfortunately, I think that will favor a Gal scout who can throw on two damps, beat an Amarr scout, and throw on two Complex Kincats and some shield tank.
There are a lot of possibilities, but many are not good. Min scouts will be dead. Mark my words. That is my fear, but it can't be worse than Alpha to Charlie. True. Now we have a choice--be permascanned, or be non-viable. Oh wait, those two are the same thing. NVM. 2 damps and a cloak is all you need. Most of my fits run that setup, and I can still run speed or hack mods. Granted, Uber-Speed hacks will still be VERY hard to pull off, but Breakers need to move to high slots anyways. That being said, you can still get off a 5 second hack while damped and cloaked. I'm not too worried. Yes, but using a cloak is kinda like saying "shoot me all you heavies, cause you can just sneak up on me from anywhere within your HMG's optimal"
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:00:00 -
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2 questions: Is SG hit detection fixed? AND: Is the cloak range nerf as bad as I predicted?
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:15:00 -
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From what Iv read, scouts now have equal eWAR to every other suit
AS spam+team shared= shared passives but worse.
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:2 questions: Is SG hit detection fixed? AND: Is the cloak range nerf as bad as I predicted? I haven't run into a single good scout who has had problems today. Only the bad scouts are whining. Skel was fine. I was fine. Genocide was fine. Kitty was fine. Nobody complained. Cloak delay will probably get fixed though. SG hit detection is pretty dead on. Framerate has really improved (for the most part), and that has also helped HD a lot. Is the cloak delay still too short...?
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:2 questions: Is SG hit detection fixed? AND: Is the cloak range nerf as bad as I predicted? I haven't run into a single good scout who has had problems today. Only the bad scouts are whining. Skel was fine. I was fine. Genocide was fine. Kitty was fine. Nobody complained. Cloak delay will probably get fixed though. SG hit detection is pretty dead on. Framerate has really improved (for the most part), and that has also helped HD a lot. Are you finding the Active Scanning being spammed non stop? YES I now have a proto Damped Assault fit. It works quite well for surprising people. Normal Assaults and Commando's can do just fine though. I just like surprising people. Im probably gonna run 2 damps, 1 reg, 1 kin cat on my Min Ass with triple shields and one energizer
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:21:00 -
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LOL thats hilarious
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:23:00 -
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ID personally like the san range nerf to be reduced to a 10-20% reduction...something that reduces slayer scout, but doesn't nullify eWAR at the same time
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:36:00 -
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Did the glitched isk payouts get fixed? Did the pre-1.9 balancing hot fix get redeployed? How are the new maps? Is the AS spam really that bad? Are gallogis a serious thing now? And has anyone tested my precious ShotFun yet? (anyone like the new name?)
I just got back from Cali, and am looking forward to playing again.
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Posted - 2014.11.05 22:05:00 -
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Just logged in, and find that I didn't get anything from the sidearm event, SP-wise.
Also, Im rank 3 . LOL no arum spent...
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:11:00 -
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What are the reqs to dodge a gallogi focused as a ninja?
I was running 3x damps and an ADV cloak and I was getting scanned
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What are the reqs to dodge a gallogi focused as a ninja? I was running 3x damps and an ADV cloak and I was getting scanned You're getting hit by GA Logi + Focused (15 dB). 3 + Adv won't cut it. MinScout needs 3 + proto cloak to hit 14 dB. Yay. I can't fit that
Too little CPU this time...
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:What are the reqs to dodge a gallogi focused as a ninja? I was running 3x damps and an ADV cloak and I was getting scanned You're getting hit by GA Logi + Focused (15 dB). 3 + Adv won't cut it. MinScout needs 3 + proto cloak to hit 14 dB. Yay. I can't fit that Too little CPU this time... In situations like that, I fit those mods first, then the proto cloak, and the rest of my suit around them. You can find a way. Yeah like not fitting weapons
Also, who thinks that 3 damps is just a bit excessive?
Id much rather have the Gal-Logi have a wider scan angle and shorter cool downs than invalidate any scout that isn't full proto with full dampeners with the eWAR castrator...er...cloak field active.
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Though, TBH, I found that the cloak nerf didn't affect me that much. Most of the times that I died today (and I did die A LOT), were because I was suicide banking or trying out new suits and whatnot.
Also,
ALL HAIL THE BEAUTIFUL FUNCTIONING SHOTFUN, NOW WITH MINIMIZED BLUE SHIELD FLASHES!!!!!!!
I was going to town on that 5 point map with A and B connected by that little bridge way thing, on the new Toxic mood. It was amazing. I literally felt unstoppable. No sprint glitch, very few blue shield flashes, shots doing full damage...It was amazing. Like unreal amazing awesomeness of super awesomeness.
I did get a LOT of lag one match with 2 squads of CHACALES MEXICANOS XXX NEW EDEN HISPANIO XXX LATINOS, but after that it was fine. Seriously, it was awesome. And, apparently, theres a storm mood where it'll be even harder to see my speedy little Minja before he's up in your face head shotting you.
<3<3<3 ShotFun <3<3<3
My shrine to the ShotFun^^^
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:Oh the crying is just starting. Wait until we start slaying prey we choose instead of prey of opportunity. All those pub stompers who aren't used to dying are going to start losing some expensive ass suits.
PErhaps we should start drawing up a hit list?
I think, at the top, we put Kain Sparo for the crime of attempting to prenerf us scouts.
I'm thinking this list could get kind of long. Can we just add the entirety of Nyain San to this hitlist? I think I found my first post in the registry...if someone can find an earlier one, tell me
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My first forum post/topic. TBT pre-1.8
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Garin Caldari wrote:So with some generous help I am now gal scout 3 also. I could take elec and eng to 3 each and would still have 700k sp left. Get dampening to 5 ASAP. After that, get gal scout to 5. Then, get biotics to 5. Then kin cats to 5. Then shields to 5. Finally, become OP.
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Garin Caldari wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Garin Caldari wrote:So with some generous help I am now gal scout 3 also. I could take elec and eng to 3 each and would still have 700k sp left. Get dampening to 5 ASAP. After that, get gal scout to 5. In agreement. It'll take a couple weeks, but you'll be glad you did. Its a good month to grind with the SP cap as it is. So gal scout to 5 asap or eng/elec to 3 then scout 5? Sorry so many questions. Unless its minmitar, you want to get the scout first.
Gal has great fittings, and you should be fine with lvl 3. Ill give you the optimal PC Gal Scout fit RN for ultimate heavy spam countering capabilities, and modify it so that you can fit it with level 3 fittings.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/8976
Your goal should be to get that fit working. You may need to get to level 4 electronics, but that right there is a super solid PC fit. You can downgrade to f/45's if need be.
But that right there is your goal. If you need ISK, HMU in game if I'm on.
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Post #4: Me Ghost Kaisar wrote:
To hell with the nova knife bonus.
Give me commando base melee and a bonus to biotics.
I'd still take it. 240 base melee and biotic bonus would get me punching well over 600 with a single melee mod We could one shot heavies out of cloak
Just imagine 3x melee mods, then if melee did damage to tanks the tears would ROLL
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LeGoose wrote:I almost just liked one of gav's posts... What is happening to this world and forum. Gav semi making sense, Shotty and mollerz banned, and Appia/Cass/all her other alts also semi silent for a few pages. mollerz and Shotty were banned ? Why??
Also, is Vitnaur Shotty...?
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Garin Caldari wrote:
Looks amazing. Do you have any basic fits I can run now to practice with while saving up for scout 5 and all the other upgrades?
You guys have been awesome. Thanks for all the support. I hope to represent scouts well in this.
Run RE's and MLT SG on a basic 2x damped Gal scout, with a shield extender and a kin cat, and have a blast
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Improved frame rates nerfed me hard >< KDR on all weapon platforms dropping like a rock for me >< Hahaha I killed you with a FlayLOL earlier today
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Am I the only one seeing the minmitar scout underperforming right now...?
Ive been looking for another one in PC (aside from Ghost Kaisar), but have only found maybe two. On the other hand, Ive seen around 70 Gal scouts, 20 Amarr, and 30 Cal, and about 250 sentinels (mainly Amarr)
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Improved frame rates nerfed me hard >< KDR on all weapon platforms dropping like a rock for me >< Hahaha I killed you with a FlayLOL earlier today yes you did as I was wildly wailing all over the place trying to get the bead on you. We had a joke in our team (we were Q-Syncing, all running mass drivers or flay locks), that you would come on later and announce that explosive weapons were OP
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:24:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Am I the only one seeing the minmitar scout underperforming right now...?
Ive been looking for another one in PC (aside from Ghost Kaisar), but have only found maybe two. On the other hand, Ive seen around 70 Gal scouts, 20 Amarr, and 30 Cal, and about 250 sentinels (mainly Amarr) Yeah, we got hit hard from what I experienced. Hoping whatever "balance" hotfix planned for Tuesday fixes some things. Otherwise I just can't handle it. It'll be something like: "Scouts in general nerfed. This nerf will hit hardest on the minmitar scout, and the Gal scout will be barely affected."
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Posted - 2014.11.09 06:04:00 -
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So apparently they want to nerf scouts again by making shields give a profile penalty...
Yay, minmitar scout=even worse.
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Posted - 2014.11.09 06:15:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So apparently they want to nerf scouts again by making shields give a profile penalty... Yay, minmitar scout=even worse. He already did it to the Sniper Rifle. Dedicated, Experience, PC vets told him what was a bad idea. I'm quite fearful he's going the Wolfman/Remnant route of "Listen, I know I'm right and it doesn't matter what the community says because you guys that know the game better than me just don't get my vision!" eWAR is binary. These changes completely screw it up. Its like having a pre-established set of inputs and outputs, then having the inputs give entirely different outputs, all of which are worse for the Minja....
Its like they want me to respec into Assault or Sentinel
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Posted - 2014.11.15 19:27:00 -
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WAY too long for you to take your weapon out....they need to undo this nerf, or give us our sidearm SP so all the scouts can spec into Assaults, like they want us to.
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One Eyed King wrote:Cass Caul wrote:First Prophet wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:Shotguns are OP. I keep running straight at people with my Min Assault and they just die. Just like that. Even my scout isn't fast enough to run straight at people. Assault suits OP. That'd because kincats are U.P. Buff KinCats to 10/15/20 !!! I think Minmatar should get a 50% per level bonus to those. I like the way you're thinking OEK
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:So heavy spam is getting ridiculous. Was just in a match vs. KEQ with 10 heavies on their team. I'm not even exaggerating. As long as there were fewer than 3 scouts, the match is fine. Otherwise it'd be considered "scout spam", regardless of the count of any other suit.
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"I say we nerf the scout back to worse than where it was pre-1.8. Remove the cloak, remove all module slots, and make scouts have sidearms only and then they'll only out assault our 1k HP insta killing assaults by a little."
--Med/Heavy users
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Just ran into an invincible tank, and learned a valuable lesson: never squad with scrubs, they will not follow a single goddamn order you give them.
I died 8 times to him. I would get behind him, drop two remotes, AV made him, and he would just either one shot me with his small rail, or jump out with his heavy suit and buzz me down instantly. I couldn't kill him. I was miserable. I asked my squad to being AV, and they didn't lift a finger to help.
In a game where it requires 3 people to down 1 man who uses a tank, having to work with non-scrubs is essential.
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One Eyed King wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:This really needs to be reiterated. One Eyed King wrote:
The current mechanics already have some area for Mediums to dampen.
If they have 1 Complex Dampener equipped, they can beat Minmatar and Caldari scouts with no precision enhancers, and with 2 Complex Dampeners can beat both Amarr and Gallente scouts with no precision enhancers.
Assuming all scouts have 1 Complex PE, Medium frames can beat Minmatar and Caldari scouts scans with 2 Complex Dampeners. They need 3 CDs to beat Gallente's 1 PE (though if tied scans/damps went to the dampened instead of the precision they would only need two). To beat Amarr with 1 Complex PE, they would need 4 Complex Damps.
It is not even remotely reasonable to demand that someone spend 4 low slots on complex modules to counter the effect of a single bonused module. These are obscene module counts that you are suggesting to counter minor investments by scouts. 4 complex dampeners is utterly crippling to any medium frame - 1 precision enhancer is not. If an Amarr scout is required to throw on just one precision enhancer and then medframes are obligated to spend 4 modules to evade it, the medframes are not going to spend the modules to evade it. To suggest that they would is absurd. That Amarr scout can then comfortably out-tank any medframe stupid enough to try evading scout scans, while maintaining huge EWAR advantages and all the other wonders that scout suits confer. Yet it IS reasonable for my Minmatar Scout to have to equip 3 Complex Damps AND not only a proto cloak, but to have it ACTIVE in order to beat a single slot on the Gal Logi? In what way am I asking a medium frame, who by the way will have significantly greater HP than the suit that I am wearing, making more of a sacrifice than I am? This is a good point. Why should scouts have to make a larger sacrifice than mediums for the same gain for eWAR?
I dont understand.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Well shit, we're actually getting somewhere with strafe speed. An age old question soon to be answered: Is it strafe speed or strafe acceleration that makes my wigglewiggle work? I like App's idea for a constant base, but it'd make catching targets tough for knifers. Its acceleration. And its stupid. And this will just make heavy suits ridiculously OP, because they don't need HP mods...
GODDAMNIT RATTATI HAVE SOME FORESIGHT.. ugh this is just so frustrating sometimes.
Also, this hits Minmitar MORE than any other race. We survived on strafing and strafing alone, and needed every HP mod we could get.
This is just....ugh....
Treating the symptoms instead of the problem, this time taking away the one thing scouts have going for them still: Speed.
Well, looks like biotic tanking will no longer be viable
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Too much stupid in GD...
A brilliant man once said, "Don't argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
I legitimately feel that if i keep trying to fight the GD sheep that that is exactly what will happen.
Either I am somehow wrong and not realizing it, or the entire sentinel spamming populace of GD is somehow correct, and scouts are indeed OP somehow, and my assault, which i do far better in, is underpowered and weak.
I just don't get it, and am so tired and frustrated by the complete idiots that Im beginning to think that they will control the fate of this game....
Im sick and tired of it, and don't want any more stupid. I can't deal with these people sometimes.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:One Eyed King wrote: The difference is we told him his ideas were stupid, they became less stupid, and eventually he actually had some good ideas. It was weird and confusing.
I remember the transition being close to instantaneous. One Day, Gav was suggesting a very old-Gav-like +100% efficacy to KinCats per level. The very next day, he came up with a solid and well-thought EWAR minimap rework. WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH GAV!?!?!? Could've been dietary. This was around the same time he and Jace were discussing ... load optimization. Jace told Gav to tell his "friend" to eat a bunch of clams something. No telling how many clams he ate. Perhaps enough to alter brain chemistry? LOL
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Varoth Drac wrote:Can this be fixed by buffing Min scouts like Ratatti suggests?
I'm thinking, if we are continuing the theme of hunter and hunted, scout bonuses should be changed to fit these paradigms.
My proposal:
Hunters - Amarr scout, bonus to precision, stamina Caldari, bonus to range andGǪ..maybe cloak duration? Fits the idea of wide flanking for ranged combat Hunted - Gallente, bonus to damps andGǪ..maybe cloak recharge? Still fits the idea of stealth without further dampening bonuses - Minmatar, bonus to damps and hacking. Dampening fits and is very important for hacking and knifing, particularly with these proposed EWAR changes.
Other necessary changes.
Nova knife damage buffed by 25%. Controversial to remove the Min knife bonus, but Min scouts would still be best knifers with damp bonus and highest speed. Would be nice to make knives better for other scouts as well. Codebreakers in highs. Allows Min scouts to focus on hacking without sacrificing speed or damps. Gives all suits more high slot options, particularly useful for all scouts if shields and precision mods are going to have penalties.
What do people think? I agree that knives should all have the min scout bonus, and the bonus removed.
Its been a long time coming, and would really give heavies more of a harder counter.
+1
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Well, looks like the shotgun will now be completely useless, except on an assault
Good thing I have min assault at 5, and all eWAR skills maxed, and all everything shotgunning maxed.
Still, Its kinda sad in a way. I really liked my minmitar scout.
Oh well, RIP.
What I don't understand is why Rattati didn't use my eWAR idea where you get a directional arrow if you beat the enemy by 60% or better, but a dot is the only thing that you see if you don't.
That, combined with the concentric circles would help a lot.
But again, oh well, I have min assault 5, why should I care about helping balance the game...
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I'll admit I'm slightly worried for the Minja, hopefully this isn't going to end up as a boot to the balls.
That said, I've not played 1.10, have to see tomorrow. It will be a very hard, painful boot in your nut sack.
Meanwhile, my OP Min Assault will be wrecking things, until a godly OP Amarr Assault with a scrambler comes along and decides to kill everyone.
I think that armor tanking will become HUGE, considering the Amarr Assault will reign supreme, and annihilate anyone who doesn't armor stack. The heavies will then eat up all the little scrubby armor tankers for breakfast because now NO ONE can see them on radar until they get into insta gib range.
That, coupled with the fact that you can't sneak up on people anymore using Tac Net will be awful.
It will be serious, hardcore, heavy spam. Particularly Amarr, the polar opposite of the minmitar scout (how ironic).
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Are you currently getting picked up by Actives or Passives? My assault picked up a slow minja with 87 base armor. ADV. Either he was running damps or code breakers, and it was a pub so Im assuming damps. Thats ridiculous. My assault is OP now, but the heavy spam is far worse. Guess whats going to get nerfed though?
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Also: First two rounds with a 2x damp, 1x kincat NK scout, with 3x shotgun damp as back up.
38-7 and 24-5
Seems to be working still.. Minmitar Heavy frame M/1 series: 35/7
2x kincats, recharger, extender, Mh-82, bolt pistol
The HMG was stealth buffed BTW as well. Muzzle flash was greatly reduced, meaning that its now A LOT easier to track targets. Meaning I can now apply 900 DPS at 30 meters non-stop.
Stupid.
Ran into a Dust Brasil Q-Sync as well today. We won by cloning them, but they had 12 heavies, 2 armor tanked, RE hucking, BrAR wielding Gal scouts, and 2 BrAR wielding Min Logis.
It was a sickening display of skillessness and FoTM asshatery.
I went 18-8 in my BPO Min Assault thing.
Also, Ghost Kaisar, I am learning to love the FlayLOL. The weapon has saved me so many times, Im going to get it to at least Ops 5. The best is to bounce the splash off the wall behind someone. Its wonderful.
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Hynox Xitio wrote:This isn't a thread, this is an infected protrusion. You're not a person. You're an infected protrusion that emerged from that whore you call a mother's vagina, when your faggot father made a mistake and made you.
I can do insults too, how cool am I now?
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: they had 12 heavies armor tanked BrAR wielding Gal scouts
These just so happen to be #1 and #2 on my kindly-fix-for-Christmas list. Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Hynox Xitio wrote:This isn't a thread, this is an infected protrusion. You're not a person ... Please clean that up, Gav. You'll get yourself banned or us shutdown. Yeah, the heavies in particular are almost worse than the BrAR. The vast majority of them required two flay lock rounds on top of an F/45 RE. Thats somewhat ridiculous.
Fine. Its your thread. I guess Ill have the decency to not litter it with **** like what Hypnox said.
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Also: First two rounds with a 2x damp, 1x kincat NK scout, with 3x shotgun damp as back up.
38-7 and 24-5
Seems to be working still.. Minmitar Heavy frame M/1 series: 35/7 2x kincats, recharger, extender, Mh-82, bolt pistol The HMG was stealth buffed BTW as well. Muzzle flash was greatly reduced, meaning that its now A LOT easier to track targets. Meaning I can now apply 900 DPS at 30 meters non-stop. Stupid. Ran into a Dust Brasil Q-Sync as well today. We won by cloning them, but they had 12 heavies, 2 armor tanked, RE hucking, BrAR wielding Gal scouts, and 2 BrAR wielding Min Logis. It was a sickening display of skillessness and FoTM asshatery. I went 18-8 in my BPO Min Assault thing. Also, Ghost Kaisar, I am learning to love the FlayLOL. The weapon has saved me so many times, Im going to get it to at least Ops 5. The best is to bounce the splash off the wall behind someone. Its wonderful. Yes my name for it has been used by someone other than me! Or was it like that before?(I just made up Flaylol recently.) Ive referred to the flay lock as the FlayLOL ever since its castration.
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xavier zor wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Also: First two rounds with a 2x damp, 1x kincat NK scout, with 3x shotgun damp as back up.
38-7 and 24-5
Seems to be working still.. I hope you used NK's those 2 matches....I have always been against the scrubby shotgun scout method Ive always been against the scrubby HMG method. I hope all the scores you put up as a sentinel are you shotgunning people in CQC with a forge gun cause thats how I like sentinels to play
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CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Played one match, and I am rusty, but I came on here to say this. I am skilled into Flaylock, and at the end of the match switched from the ScP to Flaylock after having much problems with shotgun scouts and trying to kill them with an ScP. I am now making it my Fav fit. I came around to one, put two rounds at his feet, and he died. HE DIED FU sneaky shotgun scouts, no more will my knives be a detriment!!! I haven't tried cloak, but I did notice "cloak delay" while switching from REs to knives. WTF? The rest I will reserve judgment until having played more, and shaken off some rust. Delay on Remotes was erroneously added while testing. It's going back to what it was. My min Assault thanks you, oh great Rattati.
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One Eyed King wrote:@ Eruditus
I tend to agree, however I only play Pubs, so i can't say whether it is a problem in PC or FW. In PC you have two options: be a sentinel, or spam RE's.
Until Sentinels are balanced, RE spam will always happen.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:dzizur wrote: in other news: knifing seems to be easier in pubs in 1.10 O_o
I've had mixed results. Noobs will be noobs, but the more experienced marks seem to be making use of their inner TacNet ring. I've been insta-spinned-backpedal-gibbed on quite a few occasions by "unaware" 1000HP Assaults. I remember doing this to you in PC.
I was in an unscannable assault fit (except to Gallogi focused or Am Scout), and you (i think) snuck up on me with a SG Cal scout, and I turned around and CRed you to death before you could kill me before you could get a shot off.
Its stupid, IMHO.
And if you consider me an OG scout, then yes, I agree.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Just noticed this. I think it is relevant to our discussion. CCP Rattati wrote:After reading this thread, and going back and forth on the numbers, I am not so sure any more that armor is overall more viable than shield tanking. I do know that high speed high tanked roles suffer from hit detection issues/high strafe speeds. I may tackle that instead of a HP nerf of plates or a smaller HP nerf. I want players to use reactives and ferros so they will not be touched. I took this to mean that he has found Armor v Shield interplay to be closer to balanced than expected. I hadn't believed this to be the case, but PC data must be suggesting otherwise. As far as PC Heavies go, it wouldn't surprise me to see half a team running GA/AM Sentinel, and I can't recall the last time I saw an MN or CA Sentinel. On the other hand, I've lately seen more MN and CA Assault in competitive play than AM or GA. I still hope to see King HP reigned in a 'bit for the sake interplay with non-tanky builds, but perhaps now is not the time. The reason you don't see them is HMG eats armor like a small child eats chocolate covered caramels.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:One of our own is going to be a dad! Swing by the bunker and share some :: high fives :: Who? You? Not me! (Not yet) And it's not Gav. Lol. But that's all I'll say :-) Details: bunker / Dust 514 / "1.10" I like how you had to include my name
BTW, Im 17 in case people didn't understand why I think its so funny
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Ok, Im getting in on it
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FlayLOL has been renamed the FlayLOVE
Im actually in love with this weapon.
Its so good once you get used to it, esp coupled with fluxes and remotes to kill heavies
Its the weapon an evil pyromaniac orgasms just thinking about.
Im going balls deep into it once I max my armor skills
I killed Arirana and DJINN Rampage with it today on my Republic Nomad suit, and was LOLing hard
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voidfaction wrote:Who is Frost Kitty? He/she kicked my ass earlier this morning. Just wanted to say I hope im on your team next time. I would respawn on the other side of the map just to try to avoid him/her but to no good bam Frost Kitty killed voidfaction respawn somewhere else bam Frost Kitty killed voidfaction. I think I ended up being 12 of their 34 kills in that match and I died 13 times.
Anyway if you read this GG Frost Kitty One of the few shotgunners I have respect for...
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Also, what do you all think about giving Commandos their scout counterpart's H/L slot layouts?
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:voidfaction wrote:Who is Frost Kitty? He/she kicked my ass earlier this morning. Just wanted to say I hope im on your team next time. I would respawn on the other side of the map just to try to avoid him/her but to no good bam Frost Kitty killed voidfaction respawn somewhere else bam Frost Kitty killed voidfaction. I think I ended up being 12 of their 34 kills in that match and I died 13 times.
Anyway if you read this GG Frost Kitty One of the few shotgunners I have respect for... Frost Kitty is amazing to watch in action. I love playing with the dude. I played 4 rounds with him, just me and him. In one match, we pulled an OB with just the two of us and literally slew 100 clones between us as well. We almost lost two. Blues were crap and the enemy squad was just cloning them hard. To bad we cloned the entire team HARD. I remember some intense PC shotgun duels...We both nailed each other simultaneously with head shots from 7m lol...
Another time, I chased him down, shot him once in the back and he turned and shot me 4x from 10 meters...I had run out of stamina so I couldn't pursue, but it was crazy good...hes not bad haha, and thats quite a compliment coming from me about shotgunners
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voidfaction wrote:4 names that let me know im going to die a lot when against. Jolly Rog3r Frost Kitty G3n0c1d3 < not sure of spelling LighniningV < again not sure of spelling
Not saying most of you don't make it hard on me just those are the 4 that have really punished me enough in a single match to stick in my poor memory.
Genocide was one of the first people in game to help me out--he got me into my first real chat so I could squad with good players.
Lightning was my mentor...probably the one guy I miss more than anyone after FF...he was an amazing speed tanker, and probably the best shotgunner this game has seen.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Server issues everyday, eh?
Getting disconnected immediately after character selection. FTFY
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:I got a kill with the move controller! and happy holiday bastards
and that thing will never be touched again. WOW. just no. Its OP with a sniper rifle....I ran a thales on my alt shotgunning people in CQC with it...LOL's
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Im pleasantly surprised, but still refuse to be a scout slayer anymore because I feel like if I do, CCP will continue to nerf the scout into oblivion.
I stopped slaying in it, and only use it to drop links, and now it seems to have reached a stable not-constantly-nerfed state.
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One Eyed King wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:[quote=J0LLY R0G3R]Fw still pretty active? Lookin for a min or gal channel. Last time i jumped into fw I got the ole sg/needle combe lol Don't know of any MN channels. First Prophet is back and big into MN FW. I'd ask him about it, or Ghost Kaisar or Dreis. Methinks we should fire up the Pirate Barge soon; perhaps demoralize our AM pals for a 'bit with round-the-clock shenanigans. The pirates are down for this. I dunno about a month but I've got a couple weeks to kill before planetside hopefully passes the delayed stage. Few mill to use up before I'm completely run dry. Ill pop them a message. I cut off some quotes but I has excuses, work, hungover, no sleep, cellphone Minmatar Militia is a big one. I always see people in there. Ask Ghost in game for the password. I can't remember it. MATARI MILITIA.
Ill send you an IG mail with the password, or just invite you if you're on.
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:voidfaction wrote:Llast 326 wrote:But that is the thingGǪ can't seem to pick them up on Passives. Have you seen any? I only catch them when someone active scans, even with two complex precision enhancers I have never seen one with passive. Same here. I've yet to pick up an RE via passive scan. I believe we're intended to. TBQH im glad we can't.
Imagine a squad of heavies with a single precision tanked logi with plates and range amps, scanning down any traps.
Would make grenade hucking them even more prevalent as that would be the only tactic. Traps are better by far, but people hate the hucking with a passion.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2015.01.03 04:48:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Also, what do you guys think of a +5m buff to AM Scout base scan range?
Base Range (m) 6 / 15 / 30 ---> 8 / 19 / 38
Max Range (m) 8 / 21 / 42 --->11 / 26 / 53
Max Precision (no change) 9dB / 18dB / 23dB I don't have a problem, but to what end? A booster shot of sorts to restore inner-class equilibrium. Compared to the others, the AM Scout is rather meh at the moment. An isolated improvement would be far less risky than sweeping changes to falloff or reversal of the range extender nerf. Id personally like racial eWAR.
Cal gets most range, slightly better precision, slightly worse dampening, Gal gets best dampening, slightly better range, slightly worse precision, Am gets best precision, slightly better range, slightly worse dampening, and Min gets slightly better everything? idk.
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Posted - 2015.01.03 06:30:00 -
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Working on supplements right now...almost finished...~250 words away from mediocrity....someone provide me some motivation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 19:14:00 -
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Infected is a very good player....and he's one of the OG Minja's so I'm kinda surprised
Though what would be cool is if we had a scout with 2x sidearms that moved faster and had better dampening and scanning stats, and a working cloak.
Id take that any day over the current clunky "scout" we have now.
Im talking about a scout with 2x sidearms that has 1x EQ slot (so no RE chucking with cloak as well), same mod slots as scout, grenade, and a cloak that was like the cloak right when it got introduced, before any nerfs (passive scans, 30 sec. standard, 25% dampening), and give it better marginally speed and scanning stats, and Ill be very very happy.
In other words, I want an OP ishukone minja..
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:09:00 -
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Just made an awesome Zatara reference
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2553356#post2553356
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:32:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Damn your profanity, Gav. LOL, it is still pretty good tho, amiright?
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Posted - 2015.01.05 23:08:00 -
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Been having fun pseudo-scouting in this fit.
Its the best SG fit I've ever run, which is saying something.
It SURVIVES.
I can run straight at people and kill them.
Its ridiculous.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/10803
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Posted - 2015.01.08 03:12:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Lady Hellfirer
Claims to be a pre 1.8 scout that is really good. Anyone ever hear of them? Methinks its a troll, a newbro, or another butthurt FoTM chasing tourist. Can confirm she is scrubby.
She is not very good at all. Played against them before with my minmitar shotgun scout versus their SG scout, and won every time the entire match (I think like 5 times), and ended up making her (Him?) go negative.
IDK about pre 1.8, never seen them before 1.8
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Also just got invited to a college lax showcase so I'm in a really good mood right now
Just thought Id share cause locker room lol
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Posted - 2015.01.09 00:04:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Infected is a very good player....and he's one of the OG Minja's so I'm kinda surprised Though what would be cool is if we had a scout with 2x sidearms that moved faster and had better dampening and scanning stats, and a working cloak. Id take that any day over the current clunky "scout" we have now. Im talking about a scout with 2x sidearms that has 1x EQ slot (so no RE chucking with cloak as well), same mod slots as scout, grenade, and a cloak that was like the cloak right when it got introduced, before any nerfs (passive scans, 30 sec. standard, 25% dampening), and give it better marginally speed and scanning stats, and Ill be very very happy. In other words, I want an OP ishukone minja.. or bloodraider, gurista or other pirate sounds like a sidegrade level 5+ idea to me So you're saying that this is possible?
Id actually play minja again if we could get something like that, and you would win the "Best Dev of the Year" Award.
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:04:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Good to see my prediction of Min Assault being the next FotM came true. I personally find it to be about the same as the Gal Assaults for higher end players.
And yes, assaults in general are FotM
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:46:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: And yes, assaults in general are FotM
By design. It was an expressed goal of Rattati to see Assault Suit usage rates higher than those of other frames. In my estimation, we'll only have a problem if (1) assault usage increases to unhealthy levels or (2) the medframe majority manages to convince Rattati to declaw all else. Hmm...they aren't nearly as bad as heavies, but I still don't like the power creep that keeps happening.
They're just making alpha weapons worse and worse with entitlement HP.
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:57:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha What he fails to show is i killed him 10 times that match afterwards, and he went 1-17.
It was very lucky, I admit.
I was very surprised he didn't die to the first SG balst...but of well.
BTW i played against Aero today...killed him 8 times, 3 as a heavy, 5 as a scout with a SG.
Poor Aero.
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Posted - 2015.01.18 21:23:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help.
I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game.
Where should I find infos about scouts if not here?
I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV.
If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs.
Thank you. 1. Using EQ's, mainly just links 2. Defending Null Cannons: We still have somewhat ghost-like abilities, therefore, for an outside point, we can make it look undefended, and get a few cheap kills when some poor scrub tries to hack it. 3. Hacking: This ties with the above for me as a minja, and is really the only reason one would run one in a PC. The speed hacks are really good, if you can get them down. 4. Killing. Scouts aren't very good slayers anymore, but they are still better than Logis and commandos. Shotgunning is also something Ive always been partial to. 5. Destroying EQ: This is every roles job, but scouts are naturally good at it because of passives. I wouldn't put it as a main job though, as everyone has to contribute to destroying links and hives. 6. Attacking Null Cannons: A scout blitzkrieg used to be a lot more fearsome, but they can help with flanking while the assaults catch up, to soften up hard targets like Sentinels that may be entrenched around an objective. 7. AV: No reason to use anything but commandos and sentinels for AV.
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