You must not have engineering and Electronics to 5 yet. I really don't have a problem with fitting the Min-Scout unless I'm putting 2 or 3 kincats on it.

I am messing around with shield regulators now to see if they make a big enough difference so I can couple them with energizers to maximise that aspect. Still having the least amount of HP usually gets you killed before that stuff can work well.

Min Scout performs best when avoiding combat with scouts entirely.

On the bright side, I still think it is the best at hunting med frames and heavy frames.

Dem knives. That hack speed makes me a WP hore now too.

I don't find energizers worth the CPU to fit on a scout. Better off with more buffer. Secondly, scouts have a pretty high recharge rate, most of the time refilling 1/2 to 1/4 each pulse. Filling it another 10hp/s isn't worth it IMO. Stacking two energizers (if you can even fit them) might be nice if you could couple with regulators, but then again, you are likely to just instantly die and never take advantage of recharge.

Enh regulators I think give the best bang for buck.

Cal sentinals are the best frames from energizers and regulators as they already have a huge buffer and low delay rate. I always fit with percentages in mind. Add a cSE to heavy and you add 10% hp, but add a cSE to a scout and you add 40%.

[1] No surprise here

[2] Yeah. too many cloaks/damps to rely on Cal-Scout or Gal-Scout passive. Especially in PC. Worthless. Even in pubs it's not reliable anymore. Took me about 10-15 matches to get used to it. Like running a Minmatar Scout, only you hurt on the inside because you're supposed to have good passive scans.

[3] I hate this so much. So many people flocked to the scout and cloak from the blue waffle. Went up against ERA, half TeamPlayers. Good news: 1v1 I own heavies and shotgun scouts. Bad news: after being killed 3 times in a row, most people swap out from shotgun to combat rifle, because it is still a better CQC weapon than the shotgun Cal-Scout with 4 pecision enhancers was just getting was just getting popped from behind by a scout too many times. Min-Scout was awesome in PC. Nova Knife kills in PC . Cloaked Gal-Scout is amazing on Defense. Before, I used my passive scans and hid out of sight. Now you hide out in the open and shoot them as they pass. Fewer speed hackers get past

[4] I don't find Scouts OP at all. I find the Caldari lacking, I find that the disparity between Precision Enhancers and Profile Dampers has become greater because a Scout's Precision and Profile are no longer equal. And what was insanely difficult to overcome last build, 15dB profile, is far easier accomplished now with cloaks.
Finally, you can't just see a sentinel, laugh, and kill them 1v1 from withing their optimal range. The Commandos are no longer just something to laugh at either. The lack of stacking damage mods really made them awesome. 1v1, I just sit there and take their bullets as I dish out more damage then they can while having more HP.
I also die to more scouts now than ever before, lightning xvx actually killed me for the first time ever... though it was in a Caldari suit instead of the minmatar one I was used to facing.
At the same time, I am getting so many kills on cloaked scouts. It is glorious.

[5] I agree. Especially with the hotfix to hardeners. My swarms feel like a flaylock instead of a bean bag launcher now.

Imagine the first shot being a freebie and your secound being the true first shot.

If this is how it works though, it puts shield effective alpha weapons at an advantage and armour effective weapons at a disadvantage.
Particularly explosive weapons

Playing today I am even more of the opinion that cloak plus shotgun isn't overpowered. I was playing with my std min logi with a combat rifle and on numerous occasions, when a scout shotgunned me in the back, I was able to turn around and kill them. I know I was probably quite lucky, but really sticking together in a group and being prepared for scout attacks gives you a perfectly fair chance.

Also nanite injectors. A shotgun scout may be able to get a cheap kill, but it would take skill to wipe out your whole squad if you were prepared for a possible attack.

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I M RatchetMan. A legendary scout. I don t play dust 514 6 months . But now I M BACK. REALLY BACK. So shotty gobang. Aded mi to the killboard of the scout. I M become a Legend of scout caldari

The killboard has been closed for a long time now and people are no longer added to it. You are most welcome to hang out here with us all and chat with the scout community though.

Solution to brick-tanking

Stacking penalty

No. Stacking penalties are for things that have percentage based increases. Other penalties are applied to addition based increase modules, hence the speed penalty to armor plates.

Solution: increase the current speed penalty and/or decrease the HP and/or increase the CPU/PG required.

So, I've had an idea bouncing around my head for a bit.
What if Scan precision affected scan range?

Imagine the following scenario.
Guy has Scan precision of 20 and a scan range of 20 metres.
As it stands, a suit with the scan profile of 20 is passively picked up at the same range as a tank with 200

The basic concept that's been rattling around my head is: If you have half the precision of the scanned's profile, then you pick them up from 1.5 times the distance.
So the guy with 20 profile is scanned from the standard 20 metres of the scanner, but one with 40 profile would be picked up from 30 metres.

Thoughts?

And if they're dampened, would you need to get closer?

I'm thinking it'd work like a radio signal with ranging strengths from almost no signal (blips) to always visible

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I'm not as sure about that if I'm honest, I think it'd make dampening difficult to the point of not being useful.
Also, having done the maths, that tank (if it's correct) would be scannable from 300(ish)metres.
That seem excessive?

We need the old speed penalties back. Along with a CPU/PG rebalance.

If you do those two, I will be fine with the current HP benefits.

I love how almost no one seems to be doing the sidearm event. 2-3 magsec commandos a game but otherwise only knifers and pistoler scouts. I love my skill choices!

Handgun Herald!!!