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mollerz
3193
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Posted - 2014.04.05 03:37:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:TTK was getting too low anyway, lets make it so everyone is instagibbed again
I'm feeling like gun fights are just that. Basic suits are actually a threat to proto slayers now. CCP managed to do it.
I think the scout/cloak QQ are a big part of that.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
826
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:00:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Murt Lesp wrote:I love how almost no one seems to be doing the sidearm event. 2-3 magsec commandos a game but otherwise only knifers and pistoler scouts. I love my skill choices!
Handgun Herald!!! I'm 149 kills away from completing the event.
I stopped counting...so donno where I am, I have been doing calmando only for a while now...
PHI Recruitment
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:10:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:TTK was getting too low anyway, lets make it so everyone is instagibbed again I'm feeling like gun fights are just that. Basic suits are actually a threat to proto slayers now. CCP managed to do it. I think the scout/cloak QQ are a big part of that.
made the mistake of saying Low when i meant high. Calling for a nerf on armor plates is asking to reduce TTK again. TTK increased by about 3 bullets per 100 HP you have. The reason there is so much armor tanking is because TTK is still too low. Rifles need another pass at damage reduction before the DUST 514 community start whining about armor plates and high HP builds.
I'm nearing 100% assurance that the real issue here is rifle users are not getting their kills on scouts after they get shot because of the change to damage mods.
People complaining about cloaks are upset they don't have permanent active scanners with Focused Scanners guaranteeing scanning a scout.
And finally, OG scouts are being out-performed by the new blood and looking for an answer that isn't just someone being better then them.
There are certainly some issues and unintended consequences, and bugs that are causing a problem, but the more and more I read the more and more it points to those 3 things
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:13:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Murt Lesp wrote:I love how almost no one seems to be doing the sidearm event. 2-3 magsec commandos a game but otherwise only knifers and pistoler scouts. I love my skill choices!
Handgun Herald!!! I'm 149 kills away from completing the event. I stopped counting...so donno where I am, I have been doing calmando only for a while now...
I know I;ve missed a few, but I'm just making sure I don't go under. If/when I get to 750, it will probably be more like 800-900, which doesn't matter, so long as I get my SP.
I'm loving the base HP on the calmando too. 500 shields and 350 armor, plus 2 cheap sidearms, 2 basic shield extenders, basic remote explosives. It's cheaper than my dragonfly and that was a BPO
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
826
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:40:00 -
[12815] - Quote
basic shield extenders? you crrraaay crraaay. I run enhanced dmg mods
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
327
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:47:00 -
[12816] - Quote
Appia Vibbia wrote: The reason there is so much armor tanking is because TTK is still too low. Rifles need another pass at damage reduction before the DUST 514 community start whining about armor plates and high HP builds.
If that is the case I;ll pass.
Thankfully CCP nor CPM indicated that pre 1.8 - slight was the aim and I think that was achieved with rifle nerf, proficiency nerf and damage mod nerf.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.05 05:32:00 -
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Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2014.04.05 05:47:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
I ******* hope so.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
4050
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Posted - 2014.04.05 05:59:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Django Quik wrote:Murt Lesp wrote:Solution to brick-tanking Stacking penalty No. Stacking penalties are for things that have percentage based increases. Other penalties are applied to addition based increase modules, hence the speed penalty to armor plates. Solution: increase the current speed penalty and/or decrease the HP and/or increase the CPU/PG required. We need the old speed penalties back. Along with a CPU/PG rebalance. If you do those two, I will be fine with the current HP benefits. TTK was getting too high anyway, lets make it so everyone is instagibbed again
Not sure what you are getting at.
I'm fine with anybody running large eHP pools. So long as they pay the penalties.
Right now, Basic plates give large HP bonus with very little CPU/PG cost and barely ANY speed penalty. The only real penalty they suffer from is lack of innate repair like shields.
I want Armor tankers to be slow and tough, and shield tankers to be fast, and a little on the fragile side. Dual Tankers are the toughest of both bunches, but have terrible shield regen and armor regen to make up for it.
If they re-balance the CPU and PG on shields and armor, they can also re-balance the CPU and PG values of the suits to reflect their intended role. Cal and Min Suits would be high in CPU, but low in PG, wheras the Amarr and Gal would be high in PG, but low in CPU (With Min getting slightly lower CPU in exchange for higher PG to reflect their hybrid tanking and speed tanking abilities, and the Gal getting slightly higher CPU in exchange for lower PG to reflect their better regen tanking abilities.)
This is the way I want Dust to be. Clearly defined archetypes, but with the freedom to mess with the fits within reason. Role theft is bad, but making a suit play to different strengths (or even patch up weaknesses instead of buffing your strengths) should be encouraged.
EDIT:
Holy crap. I totally changed topics mid post.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.05 06:20:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
I ******* hope so. I guess I'll just keep my sp. I'm too scared to spend my 2 mill
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2100
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Posted - 2014.04.05 06:38:00 -
[12821] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
I ******* hope so. I guess I'll just keep my sp. I'm too scared to spend my 2 mill
Since youre a shotgunner, get a MD!
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4966
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Posted - 2014.04.05 06:40:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
I ******* hope so. I guess I'll just keep my sp. I'm too scared to spend my 2 mill Since youre a shotgunner, get a MD! Already got it.
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Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4967
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:27:00 -
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Alright so I decided to go cal scout. I got it to lv 3 that's as much as my sp let me do....
First game : 53-4.... By god... My passive scanning crutch in pubs is BACK!!!!!!!!!
God I feel stupid for going amarr... :/
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2100
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:29:00 -
[12824] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Alright so I decided to go cal scout. I got it to lv 3 that's as much as my sp let me do....
First game : 53-4.... By god... My passive scanning crutch in pubs is BACK!!!!!!!!!
God I feel stupid for going amarr... :/
Told you so!
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5772
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:36:00 -
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I'm one of thise guys who can play half drunk and be fine, though breach MD most likely wasn't what I should hav been using.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1590
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:51:00 -
[12826] - Quote
Good games tonight with my scout bro's: Denak, Magnus and Bayeth.
Lost two games in a row (last one barely - we all boo'd loudly when we got the defeat screen) against Shotty, Sinboto, Jolly and their crew.
Good times. Sinboto and the MD. Shotty and the shot/SMG, and Jolly w/ the combat rifle and Cal scout?
Also, dont' get prof V, Marauder - too much SP given how they swing the nerf hammer so recklessly. As someone who maxed every ScP skill, I wish I had called it quits at prof 3 and maybe a few levels of ammo capacity.
I really want that SP back so I could just put some into the rifles, which is what CCP wanted me to do in the first place.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
286
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:17:00 -
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So just got into a discussion about Amarr scouts.
My god... never again... You guys weren't kidding!
If the level of their rage was equal to the UPness of their suit you'd think it was somewhere around a dual PLC wielding Commando pre 1.8.
I agree the Amarr is lacklustre and generally needs something significant to do. But... you know... that's kinda what scouts have been dealing with this whole time. Welcome to Dust 514. |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
978
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:41:00 -
[12828] - Quote
Bayeth Mal wrote:So just got into a discussion about Amarr scouts.
My god... never again... You guys weren't kidding!
If the level of their rage was equal to the UPness of their suit you'd think it was somewhere around a dual PLC wielding Commando pre 1.8.
I agree the Amarr is lacklustre and generally needs something significant to do. But... you know... that's kinda what scouts have been dealing with this whole time. Welcome to Dust 514. Spot on. The suit isn't actually that bad, it just doesn't shine in any particular area. But the amount of vitriol...
Knowledge is power
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5774
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:08:00 -
[12829] - Quote
let it be known the breach MD is not an easy beast to tame, experience or no.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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mollerz
3195
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:23:00 -
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I killed a guy with a basic flay lock last night. I'll be signing autographs once I'm done win my Barbara Walters interview.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Murt Lesp
Leviathan Battalion
154
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:43:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I killed a guy with a basic flay lock last night. I'll be signing autographs once I'm done win my Barbara Walters interview.
Someday I wanna grow up to be just like you!
Flaylock Funhouse will need to be a nickname for urban matches
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
That was an Execution - Pistol Headshot Kill
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2768
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:07:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:let it be known the breach MD is not an easy beast to tame, experience or no. Dusted of my MD last nightGǪ I am out of practice, have not been using it enough. Loaded into a half done match, and the Res had all the objective after testing the strengths of the team I decided
Quote: Let's bust out the MD and see how this thing performs now I think it might be great, but i had to relearn how to aim, pacing, everythingGǪ it had been to long
@ Matti- damn I wish i had joined the squad, when I tried you were in battle. After that I got distracted
Had some crazy good matches last night though. It's harder to Embrace the Death now, simply because I am not dying as much. (my deaths have gone way down) Ran out of ammo four times in one match.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2768
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:11:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I killed a guy with a basic flay lock last night. I'll be signing autographs once I'm done win my Barbara Walters interview.
Nice I've been toying with the thought of running the Breach Flay again, but I think I want to max out the rapid reload first.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Patrick57
6694
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:11:00 -
[12834] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:God I feel stupid for going amarr... :/ The Empress will be unhappy when she hears of this...
My personal best ADS match
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
2034
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:34:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote: And finally, OG scouts are being out-performed by the new blood and looking for an answer that isn't just someone being better then them.
The only Scouts I fear are those I've called Brother. |
Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
2034
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:42:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Good games tonight with my scout bro's ...
On Loan from Basement:
Nrabatar Zorig wrote:Alright, time for a story (mostly) based on real events.
On the secondof April YC 116, the stars above Matar aligned perfectly to start the great event that was the Battle of the Scouts, a battle of strength, dexteriety, cunning and wits, as propecized by the Vherokior shaman Nrabatar Zorig. On that day, a group of daring scouts, Denak Kalamari and Magnus, led by Matticus Monk, questioned the status quo of Shotty GoBang and his elite guard, Sinboto Simmons and Jolly Roger, challenging them to an honor duel.
Shotty accepted this challenge, and for three days these ultimate scouts would engage in glorious battle for the rulership over Nos Nothi. If the challengers were to win even one ritual duel, they could claim victory and be declared the leader of Nos Nothi.
On the first day, Matticus and Shotty met on the battleground, both performing their respective honours for the other before banding up with their own groups, and the battle ensued. This battle was shortlived, and ended in the quick defeat of the challengers, leaving Shotty still in command.
On the second day, the challengers regrouped and met with the challengees on a different battleground. Gestures of honor were given and the battle commenced once more. The challengers initally gained the upper hand, but the challengees soon recovered and crushed their opposition once more, and in the defeat of the challengers again.
On the third and final day, the challengers and challengees gathered for one more duel on the thrid battleground, paying their final respects before engaging in combat. The battle raged on for hours, more furious and bloody than either of the previous two, with no clear winning side. In the end though, Matticus' team of scouts was narrowly defeated, preserving the status quo and keeping Shotty GoBang as the leader of Nos Nothi. This was further affirmed by the spirits of past scouts gathering to give their blessings to both groups.
In the end, both groups made up and went for a beer. The end.
Scout Registry wrote:Nrabatar Zorig wrote:Alright, time for a story (mostly) based on real events.
[The MCC armor are neck and neck, as the battle nears it end.] Suspecting that Echo is undefended, I race from Alpha bridge toward their home objective. My "all-seeing" Adv Caldari with its dual complex precision enhancers and dual range extenders spies a lone defender, up above Echo near the supply depot. He has no idea I'm coming. I cloak as I draw near the socket, race in through the socket's southern entrance and ... [Matticus Monk - Remote Explosive - Shotty GoBang] That clever bastard. REs in the f*cking doorway. How'd he even know I was coming? I swap suits -- doublechecking for Damps, Flux Nades and Compact Hive - and spawn at CRU nearest Echo. This time I'll be more careful. To my relief, I see that Jolly had the same idea. We'll push Monk out of Echo together. We cloak as we near the Socket; Jolly heads south, and I loop around north. Nearing the socket entrance, I flux my doorway, flux the objective, drop my hive and toss another flux at Jolly's doorway. [Equipment Destruction, Equipment Destruction] Rounding the base of the stairs, I toss my last flux toward the top of the stairwell. All clear. Monk is still there. Plain as day on passive scan. Looks like he's falling back. I've got you now, you clever little ... [Matticus Monk - Remote Explosive - Shotty GoBang]
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
1119
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:29:00 -
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Specing up the plasma cannon. shotty! Your head shall be mine
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
2042
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:45:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:shotty! Your head shall be mine :: Checks the List on Page 1 ::
Yep, there you are, and I believe you. You Bastards get me every time.
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NotTheCloneYouAre LookingFor
Nos Nothi
122
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:53:00 -
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Its times like these that I wish we could make use of the PS4's share button.
I would like to have watched those matches.
Cyclops Rex
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
2052
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:00:00 -
[12840] - Quote
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