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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3794
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:37:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:I think I just won an award for most consecutive double posts... Could we get a ref over here? Sorry I see three consecutive Official Kaiser stands at 4 i might just have to beat that
You can't just post nothing to get it.
My 4 posts all had separate and meaningful posts.
Posting 4 times in a row just to get the title doesn't count
As for the consecutive? I think Appia did beat me there. I hold the unbroken chain record though
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1827
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:38:00 -
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Like I said. Since they released stats for the cloaks the main use of them is as an active dampener. Cloak while running is a LOT better than I expected. The inside and outside view of the cloak while moving is very different. While you see the clue outline at all times, it is a lot harder to notice if you are moving around yourself... With max graphics I think I see cloaks all the time... when really it is just the terrible graphics of this game not being as smooth as it should be. Watching a Cloaked Scout run around you is a lot like imagining the Jaws theme play through your head. You know they are there, but so long as you are moving your field of view around, the poor graphics make cloak shimmer and rendering indistinguishable.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3798
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:41:00 -
[12213] - Quote
Posted this for the General Populations convenience.
Since we got moved, I figured it would be a good idea to remind them of our existence pre 1.8
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5326
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:46:00 -
[12214] - Quote
I want a funny tag by my name.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
892
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:54:00 -
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There are some good arguments for retaining the profile dampening on the cloak to benefit the lower class eWAR citizens. The big problem only arises when we start getting into the top two suits facing off: Caldari scout vs Gallente scout.
My belief is that a large part of the problem comes from the number being really miniscule when you starting maxing your skills and module usage, this in turn results in low number changes due to module modifiers being % based.
Why shouldn't the base stats on EVERYONE be increased so that we make the RANGE larger. That means more room to play with and fewer consequences (when balancing) to tweaking one set of stats. As the gallente starts to stack modules they get to a point where you only are seeing a 1 or 2 point reduction. Same with Caldari scout and precision...
If I had the time I would rework it (using Haerr's scan table) to increase all base profile/precision stats by 10-15 points.
Of course I could just be talking out of my ass right now, if so please be gentle. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3801
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:58:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I want a funny tag by my name.
To hell with it.
For the cost of one like and a reply to that post, I'll put whatever the hell you want by your name.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
982
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:07:00 -
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Damn it want on that list just to have a silly thing by my name shotty vouch plz XD
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
983
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:12:00 -
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Ghost your patience is a thing of legend
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
882
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:13:00 -
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I think the call to nerf or remove the cloak is nothing but a knee jerk reaction to something new. I personally enjoy the cloak and it affords me to play as a specialized eWar fitting. If anything needs to be done to the cloak it is LOWER the shimmer for people walking and moving slower. Right now its the same as sprinting and walking from what I can tell. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3808
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:16:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Ghost your patience is a thing of legend
What? My repeated posts about referring to the disclaimer?
That post is attracting so many trolls for some reason.
"I wanna be on the list!"
"Sorry, but the list is only for scouts pre 1.8"
"But I was a scout before 1.8! Ask my Friends/Corp/Mother!"
"Not the point. This is only a confirmed list. Read the disclaimer, I said that there would be scouts who weren't on the list that were not FOTM Chasers. I'm not adding your name."
"FINE. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ON THE LIST ANYWAYS"
"Okay then."
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
92
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:21:00 -
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Shame I wasn't confirmed, but rules are rules and I will not fuss over something like this.
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
652
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:24:00 -
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I...I didn't make the list.
I feel so dejected.
Mad Bomber - 50% less profile
Return dumbfire to Swarms
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1832
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:26:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:I want a funny tag by my name. To hell with it. For the cost of one like and a reply to that post, I'll put whatever the hell you want by your name.
"Infamous Scout Sniper, Closed beta to Uprising 1.5, 1.8 to present "
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3818
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:31:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:I want a funny tag by my name. To hell with it. For the cost of one like and a reply to that post, I'll put whatever the hell you want by your name. "Infamous Scout Sniper, Closed beta to Uprising 1.5, 1.8 to present "
IT IS DONE
I'm seriously considering ignoring all the trolls in that thread, but I do love arguing.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1119
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:32:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Nah it's not necessary. Yesterday I spawned in and was staring a heavy in the face with the auto cloak. I immediately switched to RE's, jumped over him, layed an RE, jumped off the pipe, detonated. .
First off, that sounds like bull, because you shouldnt be able to take out a heavy with a single RE now :p
Secondly, your example is bad, because the guy may have just been trying to take out the spawn or something, rather than camping. Sounds like he wasnt camping. Or if he was, he's just plain incompetant at it. Usually, it's done from medium range, not in-your-face range.
With a cloak, if you're dropped in the middle of an a$$hat camper squad, you still MIGHT die, but at least you have a chance to get out alive.
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
347
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:52:00 -
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Hey Shotty or Ghost..when is the next time you'll add scouts to the list? Or at least scouts you've squad with? |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3656
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:55:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote: First off, that sounds like bull, because you shouldnt be able to take out a heavy with a single RE now :p
Secondly, your example is bad, because the guy may have just been trying to take out the spawn or something, rather than camping. Sounds like he wasnt camping. Or if he was, he's just plain incompetant at it. Usually, it's done from medium range, not in-your-face range.
With a cloak, if you're dropped in the middle of an a$$hat camper squad, you still MIGHT die, but at least you have a chance to get out alive.
My example may be bad but it was indeed camping. They killed me pretty close to the Uplink, so they had plenty of time to walk over to the Uplink and wait for a spawn. They were standing waiting for a spawn when I spawned. Edit: Not bull I've been killing a lot of heavies with one these days. Some I have come across do need two though.
But my question is why does the cloak deserve special treatment over other gear? It's the only EQ piece that can operate on half charge. Imagine if the Active Scanner could operate with half cooldown. But that's a different story. Why does the cloak need more love? It seems fairly fine right now just let the spam settle. |
Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1464
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:05:00 -
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I just want to be able to activate the cloak while in a dropship or lav passenger seat. Stealth drops would be so fun. |
Yan Darn
Science For Death
414
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:08:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Okay after stabing people in the face and a cig I feel calmed.
My point from my irrational mini rant was that I should not be forced to run my suit to someone else's liking. Its my toon, sp, suit and choice. I can use the same logic some people are using on heavies. That a heavy should only run plates and rep. Well I run comp kincats on mine. Do I suddenly become public enemy number 1? Am I breaking the game? sigh.... My gal scout suit is a armored based suit. Is running two plates that much of a crime?
I currently run full ewar - not a single tank or damage mod.
I might drop the precision mods, cardio reg and dampener for tank in the future.
It really doesn't matter - all scouts play their scouts differently.
To me it matters how assault/logi slayers play their scouts.
The game has a problem with distinct roles and focus.
The Ghost of Bravo
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3826
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:08:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Hey Shotty or Ghost..when is the next time you'll add scouts to the list? Or at least scouts you've squad with?
Not up to me. I leave that to Shotty.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Lucifalic
Nos Nothi
387
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:12:00 -
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Math advice scouts... I'm running gal scout. Lvl 5 precision. With 2 complex precision mods what's my precision at?
I like to hunt other scouts when I get killed by them ;) and wanna see them (love killing the new fotm chasing scouts)
Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3828
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:17:00 -
[12232] - Quote
Well that was fast
I had not idea a post like that would p*ss people off that much.
People need to calm the hell down.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
92
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:18:00 -
[12233] - Quote
Lucifalic wrote:Math advice scouts... I'm running gal scout. Lvl 5 precision. With 2 complex precision mods what's my precision at?
I like to hunt other scouts when I get killed by them ;) and wanna see them (love killing the new fotm chasing scouts)
40 (Scan precision) - 20% (1st module) - 17.38% (2nd module) - 10% (skill bonus) = 40 * 0.4914 = 19.656
Feel free to double check
The Leviathan has Awoken and in hungers
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
171
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:30:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Okay after stabing people in the face and a cig I feel calmed.
My point from my irrational mini rant was that I should not be forced to run my suit to someone else's liking. Its my toon, sp, suit and choice. I can use the same logic some people are using on heavies. That a heavy should only run plates and rep. Well I run comp kincats on mine. Do I suddenly become public enemy number 1? Am I breaking the game? sigh.... My gal scout suit is a armored based suit. Is running two plates that much of a crime?
I also want to point out that some guy named Aqua somethingOrOther sent me a very official "Non Scout No. 26" email once cause I killed him with a Combat Rifle...
People will think what they will. The only think they are not thinking about you is when you aren't killing them. Be flattered! |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1510
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:37:00 -
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Lucifalic wrote:Math advice scouts... I'm running gal scout. Lvl 5 precision. With 2 complex precision mods what's my precision at?
I like to hunt other scouts when I get killed by them ;) and wanna see them (love killing the new fotm chasing scouts)
Paging Herrithmatic and Mathppia. We have some numbers spilled and need a cleanup in isle 3.
Paging Herrithmatic and Mathppia, stat!!
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3832
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:37:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:noob cavman wrote:Okay after stabing people in the face and a cig I feel calmed.
My point from my irrational mini rant was that I should not be forced to run my suit to someone else's liking. Its my toon, sp, suit and choice. I can use the same logic some people are using on heavies. That a heavy should only run plates and rep. Well I run comp kincats on mine. Do I suddenly become public enemy number 1? Am I breaking the game? sigh.... My gal scout suit is a armored based suit. Is running two plates that much of a crime? I also want to point out that some guy named Aqua somethingOrOther sent me a very official "Non Scout No. 26" email once cause I killed him with a Combat Rifle... People will think what they will. The only time they are not thinking about you is when you aren't killing them. Be flattered!
Probably Aqua Regia
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3834
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:39:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Lucifalic wrote:Math advice scouts... I'm running gal scout. Lvl 5 precision. With 2 complex precision mods what's my precision at?
I like to hunt other scouts when I get killed by them ;) and wanna see them (love killing the new fotm chasing scouts) Paging Herrithmatic and Mathppia. We have some numbers spilled and need a cleanup in isle 3. Paging Herrithmatic and Mathppia, stat!!
Protofits will solve this.
Answer: 23.79 dB
It will pick up Gal Scouts without damps, and Proto Scouts with Damps.
They both round up to 24, and the tie goes to the scanner.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Lucifalic
Nos Nothi
388
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:44:00 -
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Thanks my numbers were on target then, just Wasn't sure on the stacking penalty.
Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2014.03.27 20:56:00 -
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Time to break my own code. As many of you have started to joined the venereal disease, blue waffle alliance I assume you all will be sharing fits and letting the new scout in on how to fit and the tables and charts the math oriented guys had made.
I double dampen my Min and Cal Scout. then use cloak. My Gal Logi has a dB of 21 with cloak. Loss of EQ bonus to cloaks means I downgrade my Boundless REs to STD REs and my Allotek D Hive to K-2 Nanohive and keep the same fit. Gal-Scout just does away with cloak and double dampens to avoid Cal-Scout with 4 precision enhancers. 2 EQ for RE and Hives.
Cal-Scout is so useless in PC for its Scan capabilities because it is so easily overcome, even with 4 precision enhancers. I'm done with Cal-Scout in PC. It's just not worth it.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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mollerz
3019
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:00:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote: I think the dampened player should win when competing against an equal but opposite fitting. If the they meet, the two players are on equal footing since neither player can see each other.
C'est Magnifique!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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