I just want my doors to open. And find out what the deal is with the TRAM. And find out who was committing suicide in public places. So many questions...

Some of us were discussing the asymmetry between precision vs profile that will be in place for scouts come 1.8. Does what I say here make sense?

WHO IS READY FR 1.8!!!!!!

I've finished the Scanning Table for 1.8, you can find the thread here: LINKY

Edit: Thanks Quil for showing me a quick way of making it a webpage and how to share it via google docs.

Where did they post the Logi stats? I thought they only released the bonuses. :3

The new damage mods should look something like this if I didn't do anything wrong

(1+(0.05*1)) = 5%
(1+(0.05*1))*(1+(0.05*0.87)) = 9.56%
(1+(0.05*1))*(1+(0.05*0.87))*(1+(0.05*0.57)) = 12.69%

I want a dev to come out and confirm the Shotgun Prof. It is not beyond CCP to just copy-pasta a list of blaster light weapons into an unproofed blog and call it a day. Maybe someone in the marketing dept might not know that Shotgun Proficiency isn't damage based?

Until I see patch notes I won't know what to think about Shotgun, but if they DID change it I am happy. Peel through shields faster to get to the meaty, weak-against-blasters armor

That must be where all their employees got them.

@ Bardas - You don't need a matari scout to run proto knives.

Only real issue I have with 1.8 is this - you can't use a cloak without level 4 or 5 in a scout suit. Not a problem for me but what about a new player. You would have to grind through a massive amount of sp before you could use your light frame/scout suit as it was intended. I know we've been doing ok without cloaks so far but I'm not sure a new player would see it that way when we are all running around with invisibility.

As for me, I really don't know what to do with my dropsuit sp refund.

I'm currently minmatar. I love the speed and the shield tanking (hit and run) and would love a hacking bonus. Trouble is I'm not such a bit fan of the look. Proto gal scout looks much more awesome as do the new suits. Also I love scanning so the cal or gal bonus would be awesome. Using protofits, on paper the gal scout seems best as long as I don't mind loosing a percent or two speed with plates.

Arrgh I just don't know!

The Cal Scout is damn close to the Min scout in fitting efficiencyGǪ

Sorry folks I've been away for work this past week and have only been following things on my phone.

Any Suits able to pick up a Level 5 Tanked Gal while cloaked on passive? Could be good for the shared sight with squad.

They didn't nerf the damage though...so I suppose silver lining right?

Scrambler pistol nerf?

They aren't getting Nerfed...?

We will be getting a Scan range buff up to 20m (30 with passives). Our Precision is being dropped to 40 as well.

Scanning is fine. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Is anyone even considering skilling into that!?

Knifers and shot-gunners rejoice! It's possible to switch weapons while hacking without breaking cloak!

Edit: And NK swipes don't break cloak!!

Also there is that shield/armor bug- You start off missing shield and armor beyond the basic.. as if your skills didn't calculate in.

Anyone else feel like they should tickle the Calmando? Looks like a dryer sheet mascot.

Well....I'll give it a few more days before I say, "I told you so". But it's looking like it to me. I really wish they had done the tiered increase of profile reduction with std 15% ->adv 20% ->proto 25%....

Posted this for the General Populations convenience.

Since we got moved, I figured it would be a good idea to remind them of our existence pre 1.8

not to derail the spelling bee, but I was thinking about a response to my own post for much of today. I *think that the Gallente Scout Dampening debacle can be fixed with none other than our very own Active Scanner. Right now, scanners have set precision values. If you change that the be the users precision plus a bonus, you get a very very wide range of efficiency in the scanner.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmEnn9guyATXdGN6WEp3Zzc3SVM5cVVXb3NwOThNVXc&usp=sharing

Basic idea:

STD Scanner = no bonus to precision, it just employs the user's base precision at range
ADV Scanner = 15% bonus to user precision in scans
PRO Scanner = 25% bonus to user precision in scans
PRO Focused = 30% bonus to user precision in scans

At the lowest level, like an unmodded Assault using STD scanner, he would be able to see 100m ahead of himself with his own passive scanning. It's just an early glimpse at what he was going to see anyway, but he can generate WPs this way. And it only requires minimal investment in the fit.

At the highest level, a Cal Scout with at least 3 precision mods, he would be able to scan a Gal Scout with 3 dampeners. The only respite the Gal Scout has is to activate his cloak. So 3 mods + Equip cancels 3 mods + Equip. Perfect racial parity, favoring dampeners. Two dedicated fits going to war with each other.

Then you have everything in between. EWAR participation becomes a question of fitting trade offs. How many slots do you want to spend on intel instead of tank? Scanner is an easy piece to run, generates WPs, and in this model can get very efficient quite quickly.

the tank game was simply called Combat
I loved that game
you were in a maze and had to shoot the other tank, and the made a crash noise and spun around when you hit them.

By the way, took out two tanks today.
The first was a lone effort that involved 3 poxy mines, 3 swarm volleys and, the killing hit, 1 av grenade.

The second came barrelling around a corner backwards after retreating so I panic-switched and flaylocked it up the exhaust pipe. (Or where an exhaust pipe would be if it had one)
That second one reminded me of times gone by.

Looking for Input on an idea.

Someone said in GD that they want scouts to "Scout"

I agree with this, but said it would require some sweeping changes, as you would move into a strictly support role, with limited offensive capabilities.

Here is the link to the post

Highlights for those who don't want to read:

Slot layout becomes 2 sidearms, no grenade.
Shared Passive scans with the Team. WP for each kill made from your passive scans
LOS scans are shared with squad. No WP for these.
Cloak takes 3 seconds to cloak or decloak. You can run while this happens. You cannot switch weapons out of it. **agreed**
Cloak keeps its dampening bonus.
Skill changes to cloak skill, includes bonus to reduce decloak time by 5% per level. This amounts to 3/4 of a second off cloaking (or de-cloaking). If you factor in both sides, this is 1.5 seconds, which makes it a worth investment.

If these highlights intrigue you, read the post.

Im really confused. Are the two games different entirely? Cause if so, RIP Dust PS3.

I won't be playing on PS3 anymore for dust, that is for certain.

I am surprised they only talked for 10 minutes. I was not all that surprised by them releasing it on PC, especially since during EVE vegas they "nearly" spilled the beans anyway.

Lastly, really confused. Whats the direction for the PS3? What is to come, what are the goals etc etc etc. The keynote was legit, 5 minutes worth of content. While I am VERY VERY excited for PC dust, I am seriously worried about PS3.

No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios).

When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.

Happy 700 pages to those who still stop by the forums!

We do! But we don't want sprint charge. It'd be OP, and it'd take alot of the skill out of knifing. No good.

We've proposed more reasonable alternatives:

* widen swing arc and/or extend blade length
* increase movement speed when equipped
* rework PG and damage progressions

I'm not sure whether or not Maken Tosch supported sprint charge. If he did, I'd like to here his reasoning (and whether or not it has changed since 1.8).

I think that Judge is sufficiently honorable to set aside his bias. As for Appia, her motives are beyond question; she has every god-d*mn suit :-)