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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2964
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:20:00 -
[7681] - Quote
@shotty I'll vote for honorary scout. IWS actively started to engage our little community/stepped in our shoes when the time was right.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2964
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:23:00 -
[7682] - Quote
@qn Knives show base uncharged damage per swipe. Each trigger pull gets you two swipes. Charge is a 2.5 multiplier.
Not sure where damage mods fall in the order of multiplication though. If I had to guess it would be after the charge and each swipe.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:24:00 -
[7683] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber weighed our pleas, solicited our input, intervened on our behalf and appears to have delivered. Furthermore, he has embraced the tools of our trade and lived to tell his tale, no doubt now addicted to Knives. For his efforts and consideration, I propose we declare him Honorary Scout. Cast bastards' vote In Favor or Opposed.In Favor: Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Opposed: Daxxis (proposes 'Friend of Registry' vs 'Honorary Scout') Honorary ScoutEsteemed title awarded by the Scout Community in recognition of exceptional contribution to Bastardly cause. Former Recipients: Sontie - For having founded Scouts United. Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. Aeon Amadi (Nomistrav) - For exhaustive research efforts on the state of the Scout. In favour: IWS did good.
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1970
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:25:00 -
[7684] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote: Cast bastards' vote In Favor or Opposed.
In Favor: Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Shutter Fly
molon labe. Public Disorder.
202
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:27:00 -
[7685] - Quote
Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:@qn Knives show base uncharged damage per swipe. Each trigger pull gets you two swipes. Charge is a 2.5 multiplier.
Not sure where damage mods fall in the order of multiplication though. If I had to guess it would be after the charge and each swipe. It doesn't matter where you apply the damage mods, you get the same result no matter what.
I am in favor of making IWS an honorary scout. I was skeptical of his methods and motives initially, but he came through for us and showed that he had our well being in mind. |
Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
230
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:28:00 -
[7686] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Scout Registry wrote: Cast bastards' vote In Favor or Opposed.
In Favor: Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz
IWS did good for us, and most appreciate it. In favour and signed.
" No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
" yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1970
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:32:00 -
[7687] - Quote
Qn1f3 wrote:
- Is that per blade? - Yes. x2 swipes. 300 base damage if you connect with both swipes.
- How much does the charge multiply base damage? x2 600 base damage
- And lastly how does the damage mod multiply upon normal and charge strikes? +whatever % for each bonus. Currently, only sidearm damage mods work. I am not sure how the calculations with the M scout bonus work out.. Schotty?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Outer Raven
WarRavens League of Infamy
153
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:33:00 -
[7688] - Quote
Kahn Zo wrote:mollerz wrote:Scout Registry wrote: Cast bastards' vote In Favor or Opposed.
In Favor: Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz
IWS did good for us, and most appreciate it. In favour and signed. In favour as well
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1970
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:34:00 -
[7689] - Quote
I wish myrofybril was tied to nova knife damage instead of sidearm damage mods. It would make more sense, no?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
231
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:37:00 -
[7690] - Quote
don't know about you guys, But I just keep reading the last few pages over and over... A dream becoming reality in some form of level for us scouts. wow. caljin scout sniper (I might be the first to coin cal scout Caljin? ;) ) Minja scout runner assasin
man, I am in scout heaven.
" No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
" yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
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Shutter Fly
molon labe. Public Disorder.
202
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:45:00 -
[7691] - Quote
For those confused about damage mods with NKs, this should be how it is calculated:
Ishukone Nova Knife: Base Damage - 200 Minmatar Scout bonus - 200 * 1.25 = 250 Complex Sidearm Damage Mod - 250 * 1.10 = 275 Full Charge - 275 * 2.5 = 687.5 Two Hits - 687.5 * 2 = 1375HP
EDIT: Just so it is clear, these can be done in ANY ORDER. The result will always be the same. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
561
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:45:00 -
[7692] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber weighed our pleas, solicited our input, intervened on our behalf and appears to have delivered. Furthermore, he has embraced the tools of our trade and lived to tell his tale, no doubt now addicted to Knives. For his efforts and consideration, I propose we declare him Honorary Scout. Cast bastards' vote, In Favor or Opposed.In Favor (8)Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz Llast Kahn Opposed (1)Daxxis (proposes 'Friend of Registry' vs 'Honorary Scout') Honorary ScoutEsteemed title awarded by the Scout Community in recognition of exceptional contribution to Bastardly cause. Former Recipients: Sontie - For having founded Scouts United. Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. Aeon Amadi (Nomistrav) - For exhaustive research efforts on the state of the Scout.
Put me down for in favour.
After all, I mentioned it on 275(ish)
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
561
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:47:00 -
[7693] - Quote
Also, I've noticed some stuff about new suit stats, did I miss something?
Edit: Found it
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2031
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:51:00 -
[7694] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber weighed our pleas, solicited our input, intervened on our behalf and appears to have delivered. Furthermore, he has embraced the tools of our trade and lived to tell his tale, no doubt now addicted to Knives. For his efforts and consideration, I propose we declare him Honorary Scout. Cast bastards' vote, In Favor or Opposed.In Favor (8)Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz Llast Kahn Opposed (1)Daxxis (proposes 'Friend of Registry' vs 'Honorary Scout') Honorary ScoutEsteemed title awarded by the Scout Community in recognition of exceptional contribution to Bastardly cause. Former Recipients: Sontie - For having founded Scouts United. Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. Aeon Amadi (Nomistrav) - For exhaustive research efforts on the state of the Scout.
/signed in favor
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2969
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:51:00 -
[7695] - Quote
I posted my thoughts about the Amarr scout in another thread if you guys wanna give a read. I'd like to know what people think about all these scouts in general.
So far there's been very little buzz about the caldari scout. To me it's kind of the most boring. Not my style.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Outer Raven
WarRavens League of Infamy
153
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:55:00 -
[7696] - Quote
Kahn Zo wrote:don't know about you guys, But I just keep reading the last few pages over and over... A dream becoming reality in some form of level for us scouts. wow. caljin scout sniper (I might be the first to coin cal scout Caljin? ;) ) Minja scout runner assasin
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:56:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I posted my thoughts about the Amarr scout in another thread if you guys wanna give a read. I'd like to know what people think about all these scouts in general. So far there's been very little buzz about the caldari scout. To me it's kind of the most boring. Not my style.
Actually made a much similar point (though not as well articulated) in the other amarr scout thread
In your blind spot
CPM, Remnant, Wolfman - Respect
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
561
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:58:00 -
[7698] - Quote
Do my eyes decieve me or are we getting a speed increase?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2972
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:00:00 -
[7699] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Do my eyes decieve me or are we getting a speed increase?
Yeah it looks like we get about a basic kin cat's worth.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
630
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:06:00 -
[7700] - Quote
So even with a respec (which is not a given at this point) I'm not changing out of anything really. I'm keeping the gallete scout (or switching maybe to minmatar for the hack and NK boost) and speccing into caldari scout probably. It's a little annoying that the only way to beat the Gal logi would be to use a gal scout but... w/e. I think that the caldari scout will be the most useful in terms of anti-scout warfare. Using the passive range boost and precision bonus to good effect.
Reposting this link so it doesn't get lost. It is a nice analysis of the scanning properties required to beat different active scanners/caldari scouts.
So Caldari scout fit:
With one complex precision enhancer mod I can see just about every other scout with up to 1 enhanced dampener (except Gal scouts) passively out to 37.5 meters (54 m with 1 complex range amp). I'll probably fit a range amp module with a complex kin cat to have ~470 total HP (390 ish shield and 80 ish armor) after modules and skills. Then carry a cloak and RE if I have room. No idea what weapons I'm thinking at this point. But I probably will need some major fitting optimization to fit this onto my suit.
3 x complex shield extender (or 2 and an energizer?) 1 x complex precision enhancer
1 x complex range mod 1 x complex kin cat
RE and Cloak (no idea on the CPU/PG reqs for these)
Proto rail rifle? Shotgun? Bolt pistol?
Modules + proto rail rifle + std RE = 359 CPU / 73 PG (may vary, based on my current skills) with total ck.0 CPU/PG 348/66 (452.4/85.8 with full skills in core/electronics/engineering)
This leaves 93 / 12.8 for a sidearm, cloak and grenade. Le sigh, Major fitting optimization needed
Oh the possibilities. BTW a second precision module instead of shield extender gives 11 pg back and 28 cpu for a total of 121 / 23.8
All of a sudden I need about 10 million more SP to do what I want on these suits and get all the new skills I'll need.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5343
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:07:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:This was brought up in the Amarr scout bonus parity thread, but what is the Amarr scout racial bonus was the equivalent of every other scout, meaning it had a free complex module and standard module. The standard module would be the stamina, while the complex module would be 2% scrambler pistol damage per level. This would also cause the Amarr scout to mirror the Minmatar scout (both having weapon damage bonuses) much in the same way that they Gallente and Caldari mirror each other (dampening versus precision). Could work but I think you're underestimating how useful that much stamina on a scout is going to be. Still doesn't change the fact that the current Amarr bonus isn't even the equivalent of a standard cardiac regulator, while the other three scouts all get bonuses that are the equivalent of a complex module and then something else as well.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Kato Ymmij
The Exemplars Top Men.
34
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:08:00 -
[7702] - Quote
Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I posted my thoughts about the Amarr scout in another thread if you guys wanna give a read. I'd like to know what people think about all these scouts in general. So far there's been very little buzz about the caldari scout. To me it's kind of the most boring. Not my style.
I'm alright with the cal/gal scout bonuses, it will make both suits scout hunters. I'm still not so sure how the scouts will fare against the gal logi bonus (that chart was a little confusing).
On another note, can scouts still register here?
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5344
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:10:00 -
[7703] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:This was brought up in the Amarr scout bonus parity thread, but what is the Amarr scout racial bonus was the equivalent of every other scout, meaning it had a free complex module and standard module. The standard module would be the stamina, while the complex module would be 2% scrambler pistol damage per level. This would also cause the Amarr scout to mirror the Minmatar scout (both having weapon damage bonuses) much in the same way that they Gallente and Caldari mirror each other (dampening versus precision). The way I was looking at the Amarr was that rather than lose the slot as per normal Amarr builds, they received equal slots gaining the ability to add a bonus of their choice. But the whole mantra of "Amarr has one less slot because HP" is gone away with. Look at the Commando and Sentinel, both have the same amount of slots as the other racial variants with a bonus equal in value as well. Plus they were even made slower than they currently are (probably as the balance for adding one more slot).
I could understand your argument if the same racial mantras of today still applied in 1.8, but they don't.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2031
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:11:00 -
[7704] - Quote
I honestly cannot think of a valid reason to deny a respec.
They are changing SOOOO MUCH. Previous suits will have different bonuses to modules AND weapons. New weapons AND New suits.
Dropsuit Command Respec is mandatory.
Upgrades and Weaponry SHOULD be done as well, but that is optional.
At the very least, they should go Upgrades and Command.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1974
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:13:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I honestly cannot think of a valid reason to deny a respec.
They are changing SOOOO MUCH. Previous suits will have different bonuses to modules AND weapons. New weapons AND New suits.
Dropsuit Command Respec is mandatory.
Upgrades and Weaponry SHOULD be done as well, but that is optional.
At the very least, they should go Upgrades and Command.
I'd be cool with all of that. Especially the weapons. I'd like ot clean it up to pure minja skills.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2031
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:13:00 -
[7706] - Quote
Kato Ymmij wrote: On another note, can scouts still register here?
Technically, it's still closed.
It will probably re-open in 1.8
It may or may not be in another thread, and this one turned into a "Memorial" of sorts.
Much to be discussed...
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1263
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:14:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Spademan wrote:Do my eyes decieve me or are we getting a speed increase? Yeah it looks like we get about a basic kin cat's worth.
Did they post our sprint speed somewhere?
1.8 can't get here soon enough.
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
631
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:15:00 -
[7708] - Quote
I also just realized this....
Why should the gallente logi be getting the boost to active scanner? Shouldn't that be a caldari logi bonus with the caldari race being associated with intelligence gathering ( and the cal scout getting precision enhancements). It would seem to make much more sense that CAL logi get the active scanner and the GAL scout be used as a specific counter to it. You know, opposing sides and all.
Is this making sense or am I mixing up my lore / combat themes for the races?
I just think it's very odd and unbalanced that gallente scouts are the only counter to gallente logis.... (speaking as a caldari FW militia man) |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2973
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:16:00 -
[7709] - Quote
Driftward wrote:I also just realized this....
Why should the gallente logi be getting the boost to active scanner? Shouldn't that be a caldari logi bonus with the caldari race being associated with intelligence gathering ( and the cal scout getting precision enhancements). It would seem to make much more sense that CAL logi get the active scanner and the GAL scout be used as a specific counter to it. You know, opposing sides and all.
Is this making sense or am I mixing up my lore / combat themes for the races?
I just think it's very odd and unbalanced that gallente scouts are the only counter to gallente logis.... (speaking as a caldari FW militia man)
never thought about it that way.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
765
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:22:00 -
[7710] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote: Also, Gal Scouts. You have a new role. It's called KILL THE GAL LOGI.
Can we have a scout corp called that? I think I'd really want to join KTGL
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