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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2973
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:23:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Spademan wrote:Do my eyes decieve me or are we getting a speed increase? Yeah it looks like we get about a basic kin cat's worth. Did they post our sprint speed somewhere?
I glanced through shayz spread sheet and swore I saw sprint speed but then I started looking at all the info/spreadsheet they provided and can't find where they got the sprint speed. So I lied.
Movement speed is the same on the minmatar though. Didn't check gallente.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
765
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:24:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Kodho wrote:Ok, I'm not the sharpest nova knife in the drawer. I know that. That's why I defer to you guys on all the technical stuff. Can someone tell me how these changes would impact the sniper scout? What should I be looking/specing into? Most of my core skills are 4 or 5. Caldari all the way. -Low precision and large radius to catch people sneaking up on you -Plenty of highs for damage mods -Cloak to move after taking a shot
Oh.. my... I didnt think of that aspect.
I might just have to go back to sniper..
(no, no Quil, fight that urge!)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5347
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:42:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody can I please get a direct response from you here. I keep seeing you in multiple threads stating that the Amarr's stamina bonus is going to be more useful than we think, but have you even looked at what the values of cardiac regulators are? A standard cardiac regulator is 25% more stamina and 50% more stamina regen, while the Amarr scout's bonus is only 25% to each. It's not even as good as a standard module, that's crazy!
Sure saying you can run for 29 seconds may sound good, but when you consider how easy it is to mimic by the other scouts, and that if an Amarr scout wanted to mimic the other scout's racial bonus it would have to fit a complex module plus another standard module, you can't honestly say this is a good bonus?
Opinions? I am up for a debate.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
428
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:43:00 -
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I really hope we get a full respec for us to use our suit of choice and not because I have 16 million in weapons....
Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
767
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:45:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote: Here we hatched devious and deadly means of mitigating disadvantage. Here Bastard Brothers Stood United ... and also Quil.
Why THANK you! I never knew you actually respected me all this time. I'd hoped some day there would be some level of understanding, but to call me the only LEGITIMATE scout, and everyone else just bastards... well, I'm just speechless 
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7927
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:48:00 -
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My knifing has begun.
My best moment so far has been eviscerating a proto logi.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1435
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:My knifing has begun.
My best moment so far has been eviscerating a proto logi.
There is such a strange satisfaction in that. 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
2031
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:51:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Scout Registry wrote: Here we hatched devious and deadly means of mitigating disadvantage. Here Bastard Brothers Stood United ... and also Quil. Why THANK you! I never knew you actually respected me all this time. I'd hoped some day there would be some level of understanding, but to call me the only LEGITIMATE scout, and everyone else just bastards... well, I'm just speechless
Don't stop there!
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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pseudosnipre
558
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:52:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:This was brought up in the Amarr scout bonus parity thread, but what is the Amarr scout racial bonus was the equivalent of every other scout, meaning it had a free complex module and standard module. The standard module would be the stamina, while the complex module would be 2% scrambler pistol damage per level. This would also cause the Amarr scout to mirror the Minmatar scout (both having weapon damage bonuses) much in the same way that they Gallente and Caldari mirror each other (dampening versus precision). Could work but I think you're underestimating how useful that much stamina on a scout is going to be. Still doesn't change the fact that the current Amarr bonus isn't even the equivalent of a standard cardiac regulator, while the other three scouts all get bonuses that are the equivalent of a complex module and then something else as well.
What bonus fits the lore, is useful, and not weapon based?
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5349
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:57:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:This was brought up in the Amarr scout bonus parity thread, but what is the Amarr scout racial bonus was the equivalent of every other scout, meaning it had a free complex module and standard module. The standard module would be the stamina, while the complex module would be 2% scrambler pistol damage per level. This would also cause the Amarr scout to mirror the Minmatar scout (both having weapon damage bonuses) much in the same way that they Gallente and Caldari mirror each other (dampening versus precision). Could work but I think you're underestimating how useful that much stamina on a scout is going to be. Still doesn't change the fact that the current Amarr bonus isn't even the equivalent of a standard cardiac regulator, while the other three scouts all get bonuses that are the equivalent of a complex module and then something else as well. What bonus fits the lore, is useful, and not weapon based?
In my thread, I was suggesting 20% stamina recovery and max stamina per level, and that is being nice. At level 5, this would match a complex cardiac regulator which also does 100% stamina recover and 100% max stamina.
Compared to the Gallente scout which gets the equivalent of a complex profile dampener plus a standard range amplifier, the Caldari scout which gets the equivalent of a complex precision enhancer, a standard precision enhancer, and a standard range amplifier, and the MInmatar scout which gets the equivalent of a complex codebreaker plus many complex sidearm damage mods (assuming you use a nova knife), I'd say my suggested bump in the Amarr racial scout bonus is more than modest.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1263
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:07:00 -
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Not the most exciting thing, but what about adding a cloak duration bonus onto that 20% stamina/regen bonus? With that much stamina, I imagine an Amarr scout will be spending a lot of time sprinting. May as well make as much of it invisible as possible.
1.8 can't get here soon enough.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2977
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:14:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Not the most exciting thing, but what about adding a cloak duration bonus onto that 20% stamina/regen bonus? With that much stamina, I imagine an Amarr scout will be spending a lot of time sprinting. May as well make as much of it invisible as possible.
everyone bitched about no specific cloak bonuses. This is what people wanted. No cloak bonuses.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
338
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:15:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber weighed our pleas, solicited our input, intervened on our behalf and appears to have delivered. Furthermore, he has embraced the tools of our trade and lived to tell his tale, no doubt now addicted to Knives. For his efforts and consideration, I propose we declare him Honorary Scout. Cast bastards' vote, In Favor or Opposed.In Favor (8)Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz Llast Kahn Opposed (1)Daxxis (proposes 'Friend of Registry' vs 'Honorary Scout')
Honorary ScoutEsteemed title awarded by the Scout Community in recognition of exceptional contribution to Bastardly cause. Former Recipients: Sontie - For having founded Scouts United. Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. Aeon Amadi (Nomistrav) - For exhaustive research efforts on the state of the Scout.
In favor...
Good work, IWS 
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pseudosnipre
558
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:19:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Not the most exciting thing, but what about adding a cloak duration bonus onto that 20% stamina/regen bonus? With that much stamina, I imagine an Amarr scout will be spending a lot of time sprinting. May as well make as much of it invisible as possible.
everyone bitched about no specific cloak bonuses. This is what people wanted. No cloak bonuses.
Which racee are cloaks associated with in eve?
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2979
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:21:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Not the most exciting thing, but what about adding a cloak duration bonus onto that 20% stamina/regen bonus? With that much stamina, I imagine an Amarr scout will be spending a lot of time sprinting. May as well make as much of it invisible as possible.
everyone bitched about no specific cloak bonuses. This is what people wanted. No cloak bonuses. Which racee are cloaks associated with in eve?
Pretty sure they're associated to a specific class of ship (spec ops = the scout in this case) not a race. They all just get a fitting cost bonus and a reduction to lock on time after decloak. Not an eve guy though.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:25:00 -
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Is it bad that I don't care about a respec? I have almost all Dropsuit Upgrade skills maxed, I'm staying GalScout, and I like the weapons I have. Having the extra 4 mil SP I have in things like Gal assault (which I've spent maybe 25 lives in since open beta) would be nice, but after this long, I just can't care. 36 million SP to spend all at one time though... |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1435
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:This was brought up in the Amarr scout bonus parity thread, but what is the Amarr scout racial bonus was the equivalent of every other scout, meaning it had a free complex module and standard module. The standard module would be the stamina, while the complex module would be 2% scrambler pistol damage per level. This would also cause the Amarr scout to mirror the Minmatar scout (both having weapon damage bonuses) much in the same way that they Gallente and Caldari mirror each other (dampening versus precision). The way I was looking at the Amarr was that rather than lose the slot as per normal Amarr builds, they received equal slots gaining the ability to add a bonus of their choice. But the whole mantra of "Amarr has one less slot because HP" is gone away with. Look at the Commando and Sentinel, both have the same amount of slots as the other racial variants with a bonus equal in value as well. The HP is made up for by lack of speed. I could understand your argument if the same racial mantras of today still applied in 1.8, but they don't.
I had noticed the Commando, but thought that was because zero slots is ******** stupid  . Honestly did not look at the Sentinel at all 
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1975
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:28:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Not the most exciting thing, but what about adding a cloak duration bonus onto that 20% stamina/regen bonus? With that much stamina, I imagine an Amarr scout will be spending a lot of time sprinting. May as well make as much of it invisible as possible.
everyone bitched about no specific cloak bonuses. This is what people wanted. No cloak bonuses. Which racee are cloaks associated with in eve? Pretty sure they're associated to a specific class of ship (spec ops = the scout in this case) not a race. They all just get a fitting cost bonus and a reduction to lock on time after decloak. Not an eve guy though.
There is regular cloaks and covert ops cloaks.
anyone can basically equip a normal cloak. it has a pretty high cost to your ship. Only certain ships can use covert cloaks. they have ridiculous CPU cost.. like 10K CPU, but an elgible ship gets a 99% bonus to the CPU fitting.
Covert ops cloaks let you warp (RUN) while cloaked, and fire instantly after decloaking. There is also no movement penalty.
I think I covered everything..
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Haerr
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
154
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:49:00 -
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@Ghost Kaisar
Nice summary, I like the "KILL THE GAL LOGI." role. I'll be hunting the dancing bees come 1.8. ^^
@Shotty
You are welcome to do so! I'll update the other tables (maybe) tomorrow (or some time soon) and post them here, feel free to do what you want with them. (And the ones I've already posted) :)
And I vote in favour of honorary scout.
@Bojo (and others)
Maybe it is time to revisit the old scanning threads and compile a short guide with accurate information for people new to scouting?
@All
If everyone created a forum posting alt and put them in a scout corp we would have access to our own little private forum to share builds, guides and tactics. Every time I log on to the forums this thread has added a few pages at the very least and it is taking longer and longer to keep up with what is being said in here.
I like that the Scout Registry is going strong but it is (a whole lot) more than just a registry and has been for quite some time. (Good job all around on that one! )
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
692
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:05:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:
@ Shotty: I'm all for making IWS an honorary scout - he's gone to bat for us, and been scouting lately. Definitely not a title that should be given out lightly.
I wish I'd gone scoutmode earlier so I could have gotten on this snazzy registry.  I just realized that TTW3x isn't on the board!!! D':
Patrick, you've said he was really good. What happened? Outside RE kills he can't take me on.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
235
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:12:00 -
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[quote=Appia Vibbia Patrick, you've said he was really good. What happened? Outside RE kills he can't take me on.[/quote]
anyone that is thinking to take you on, leads one to there demise 
" No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
" yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
692
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:22:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. pics or it didn't happen.
Yeah, so found my Gal Scout fit: "CQC Dominatrix"
2x Complex Shield Extender
Fed-CreoDron Specialist Shotgun
Viziam Scrambler Pistol
Flux Grenade
Wyirkomi Repair Nanohives
3x Complex Armor Plates
Complex Range Amplifier
840HP, 54m Scan Radius.
"CQC Hunter"
2 Complex Precision Enhancer
CreoDron Shotgun
Viziam Scrambler Pistol
flux grenade
compact nanohive
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Complex Armor Plate
Complex Armor Plate
Complex Kinetic Catalyzer
Complex Range Amplifier
Scan Precision 27, Scan Radius of 54m, 547HP, 8.18m/s sprint, plenty of CPU and PG left for a cloak, catches any med frame with 2 dampeners or scouts with just a basic dampener.
"LOL"
2 Complex Damage Mods
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle
Viziam Scrambler Pstol
flux
K-2 nanohive
__________
Complex Range Amplifier
Complex Kin Cat
Complex Cardiac Regulator
Enhanced Ferroscale Armor Plate
Yeah...just lol. room to fit a cloak.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2752
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:24:00 -
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Haerr wrote:
@Bojo (and others)
Maybe it is time to revisit the old scanning threads and compile a short guide with accurate information for people new to scouting?
In what pretext? 1.8 scout/scan changes? Bump them for new people?
Check out latest BSOTT Guide
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
768
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:33:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Oha Yo - For having been the sexiest Scout to ever grace New Eden. pics or it didn't happen. Yeah, so found my Gal Scout fit: "CQC Dominatrix" 2x Complex Shield Extender Fed-CreoDron Specialist Shotgun Viziam Scrambler Pistol Flux Grenade Wyirkomi Repair Nanohives 3x Complex Armor Plates Complex Range Amplifier 840HP, 54m Scan Radius.
I have just two words for that:
"Knife Fodder" 
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1437
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:39:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:Is it bad that I don't care about a respec? I have almost all Dropsuit Upgrade skills maxed, I'm staying GalScout, and I like the weapons I have. Having the extra 4 mil SP I have in things like Gal assault (which I've spent maybe 25 lives in since open beta) would be nice, but after this long, I just can't care. 36 million SP to spend all at one time though...
Not really, I would be fine without one as well. That being said I think it would be a good thing for a lot of people who invested in content as stand ins while they waited for what they wanted. If they do a full respec I really hope people think about what they want to play rather than what they think will be the most OP
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
693
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:40:00 -
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lol, I can still coun't on 1 hand the number of times I've been killed with nova knives in my 3 plates suits: 3. And If I ever get knifed it'll switch to my hunter which will actually be viable with the second high slot
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
693
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:41:00 -
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New Question: Are any scouts planing on running Active Scanner and Cloaking Device in tandem?
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Onesimus Tarsus
861
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:41:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:lol, I can still coun't on 1 hand the number of times I've been killed with nova knives in my 3 plates suits: 3. And If I ever get knifed it'll switch to my hunter which will actually be viable with the second high slot
Don't sneeze at the knifers, I've been knifed almost 5 times since last February.
God loves you. And I'm sure He'll tell you so when I'm done with you.
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
693
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:43:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:lol, I can still coun't on 1 hand the number of times I've been killed with nova knives in my 3 plates suits: 3. And If I ever get knifed it'll switch to my hunter which will actually be viable with the second high slot Don't sneeze at the knifers, I've been knifed almost 5 times since last February.
Most death to knives is when I'm rocking my Sprint suits orthis month-while i'm in my own knifing suits. Speak of- time to go get another 35 kills for the day.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
97
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:16:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:New Question: Are any scouts planing on running Active Scanner and Cloaking Device in tandem?
I don't see the need as a proto gallente scout.
2x complex precision = 26.77 db
3x complex range = 95.06 m
passive scan = to proto scanner with no delay, no warning to those scanned, works while cloaked, and leaves eq for RE's |
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