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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:49:00 -
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LINK to my post with links to CCP Frames posts on new weapons stats and dropsuits, also CCP Saberwing commented on it, the 1 sec delay of Cal heavy may not be the accurate number.
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:57:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Um.. Hey shotty! Time to reopen the shop Scout Registry 2.0 bigger, badder, and more OP than ever before
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 09:15:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:lol.
But does anyone else feel like these are too good? It looks too OP to me tbh lol.
But then again I have been looking at my gimped scout for the past 6 months... Maybe I'm so used to it that decent mod layouts and skills are making me go all love mode on CCP lol Scouts have seen so much abuse that they cant even except when something good comes their way, once 1.8 comes we can use the scout registry for counseling sessions.
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:13:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:One Complex and One Basic isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, especially now since I've got 3 Lows, and of course, if Cloaking does in fact lower your Profile, but I dont think it will. Heard it was supposed to lower it too but similar to what IWS stated any info prior to the official word on the matter is subject to any number of changes. Will wait and see what the actual stats and utility of the cloaking module are.
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:46:00 -
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Kodho wrote:Ok, I'm not the sharpest nova knife in the drawer. I know that. That's why I defer to you guys on all the technical stuff. Can someone tell me how these changes would impact the sniper scout? What should I be looking/specing into? Most of my core skills are 4 or 5. For a sniper scout the extra equipment slot means you can carry nano's if you don't already. The added cup/ and pg means better modules and equipment. And with the added benefit of the cloak you can run a fairly tanked scout with damage mods or speed and range tanked and still be virtually invisible. Maybe throw in an active scanner if you want to make sure you don't get axed by a scout hunter, so many possibilities really.
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:49:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Kodho wrote:Ok, I'm not the sharpest nova knife in the drawer. I know that. That's why I defer to you guys on all the technical stuff. Can someone tell me how these changes would impact the sniper scout? What should I be looking/specing into? Most of my core skills are 4 or 5. Caldari all the way. -Low precision and large radius to catch people sneaking up on you -Plenty of highs for damage mods -Cloak to move after taking a shot Caldari scout will be the true glass cannon of sniping
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:33:00 -
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Kahn Zo wrote:mollerz wrote:Scout Registry wrote: Cast bastards' vote In Favor or Opposed.
In Favor: Lucifalic Krom Shotty Monk Moody Mollerz
IWS did good for us, and most appreciate it. In favour and signed. In favour as well
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:55:00 -
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Kahn Zo wrote:don't know about you guys, But I just keep reading the last few pages over and over... A dream becoming reality in some form of level for us scouts. wow. caljin scout sniper (I might be the first to coin cal scout Caljin? ;) ) Minja scout runner assasin
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.21 00:43:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:When thinking about stamina you have to consider it's two uses currently in game: the marathon at the beginning of a match, and your ability to sustain motion during hectic fights. One of the prime abilities of a scout on CQC maps is the ability to be nearly everywhere at once. Your stamina dictates not just your survivability but how aggressive you can be in combat. It dictates how much presence you can have on the battlefield. When you run out of stamina you are easily hunted down and killed. Most of my deaths when I'm on a roll come from when I finally run out of stamina and can no longer kite/run away from my enemy.
In these realistic applications of stamina and aggression, a scout must take breaks to refill his stamina pool. Even with a complex regulator a minmatar/gallente/caldari scout has to wait for a very long time once he runs out of stamina or he will have to choose to continue to fight with in a weakened state. A scout entering a fight with less than half a stamina bar and runs into something unexpected is probably going to die.
With a bonus to pool AND regen the realistic applications of stamina on an Amarr scout means this: With it's higher EHP and juggernaut like stamina he will be able to remain aggressive until his HP runs out. Not the other other way around like every other scout. You spend practically no time with regen (you're not supposed to be about HP regen anyway). You can remain aggressive until you 1. Run out of ammo 2. Get killed.
No scout is sprinting 100% of the time. Sometimes it feels like it but it's not. Especially if you're jumping over railings a lot. The Amarr's regen and pool size means it will practically never see it's stamina depleted in most situations. My math is quickly supporting this. Max Regulator setup and skills 1964 Stamina 194 Which means seconds of running 30 Jumps in a row 350 stamina regen a second Just making a big jump over a hill and you recover all the stamina used for the jump and then more while maintaining speed. 1) Your jump ability is not based on stamina amount, but rather stamina percent. This means that no matter how much stamina you have, you cannot increase the amount of jumps you can perform in a row. Also it means than an equivalent stamina regen bonus won't let you regen your jumps faster because the higher stamina pool increases how much stamina it requires to jump. 2) No one is going to run max regulators, so it's silly to say the bonus would be bad because the Amarr scout would have 1964 stamina. Let me show you some real math. If the Amarr scout bonus were 20% per level, then the Amarr scout's new stamina with no modules would become 450, or 45 seconds of sprinting. Now let's compare If a Gallente scout adds a complex cardiac regulator, it's stamina becomes 420 If a Caldari scout adds a complex cardiac regulator, it's stamina becomes 420 If a Minmatar scout adds a complex cardiac regulator, it's stamina becomes 441 So they are pretty much all in line, with the Amarr scout only able to sprint for 3 more seconds than the worst stamina scout. And yes, it is fair to compare an Amarr scout with bonus and no mods to other scouts with a mod slot, because if the Amarr scout wants to have comparable profile dampening, scan precision, or hacking speed it too would have to use up a module slot. Regarding 1. above, does CCP have the game mechanics in place to change this favorably for the Amarr scout? Does it fit lore for the Amarr scout to be a jackrabbit? Regardless, I think it would be cool. I see you and KINGCHECKMATE spending a lot of effort QQing about how garbage the bonuses are, but I have yet to see you making any constructive statements...the kind of constructive statements that this thread has provided for the Gallente and Minmatar scout suits. Either stop trolling us with requests to nerf the other racial suits OR start putting your energy into proposing corrections worth implementing...or just stop posting in this thread. Onesimus and Patrick57 are already here to troll us. regarding #1
As Aero Yassavi touched on CCP changed the jump mechanic to this to stop bunny hopping period, due to count less QQ threads and their own philosophy of what they wanted to see in battle. I wouldn't bank on this changing for this one suit.
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Outer Raven
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:15:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Guys, CCP already stated they do not read this thread (because it is too many pages, too hard to keep track of things)
Certainly while the scout registry may be too long for CCP to chime in on, it can and will still be a forum of thought and reflection on the status of scouts and the game at large. Conversations that require CCP can and should break off from this hub of thought and start a thread anew.
This is rather interesting in the sense that it showcases the strength or rather the tenacity of a small but passionate community of players. One can only hope that some time in the far flung future of this game and forum alike that there will still be a scout registry thread ever increasing, ever growing in its body of work.
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