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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:08:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:FYI, when Appia says she brings a gun to a knife fight, she means it Hey! I got 2 NK kills on you too!
If I remember correctly, you had 5 kills that match, 3 of them were me.
You are welcome.
Scouts don't let scouts accept more nerfs. Just say no to needless scout suit sacrifice.
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Scout Registry
566
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:09:00 -
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@Driftward Agreed. Knifing is great shotgun practice. Also agree on backpedal speed. How is it that a Logi full o' plates can walk backwards as fast as I walk forwards? Reducing backpedal speed should happen, but likely won't happen. The Logis have more honeyed lamb than tknifers and shotgunners.
That difference in walking speed, I imagine, is another drawback to knifing w/galscout. If I may, I'd recommend swapping out that plate for something else without movement penalty. But whatever works for you :p
scouts say no to quid pro quo
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1028
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:22:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:so you're a Gal-Scout, any Profile dampening skills?
45dB base. Gal 5 --> 33.75 (round to 34) Profiles dampening --> 3.075-30.375 (round to 31) and basic profile dampener brings it to 26.3 (round to 27)
As an assault his base is 50. Scan precision brings it to 45 1 Precision Enhancer --> 36 Second --> 29.7 (round to 30) third --> 26.31 (round to 27)
Yeah, So a Cal Assault wth 2 complex damage mods, 2 complex Precision Enhancers wouldn't be completely terrible. Also, let's not make this a public knowledge type of thing.
Base assault scan precision is actually 55db, Appia. 50db is the base scan profile. It doesn't really change the bottom line much though.
45dB base Gal Scout. Gal 5 --> 33.75 (round to 34) Profiles dampening 3--> (1 - 0.06) * 33.75 = 31.725 db
55 db Assault Scan precision 5 (assume he's hardcore) = (1 - .1) * 55 = 49.5 db 2 complex precision mods (no stacking penalty) = (1-.2) * (1-.2) * 49.5 db = 31.68 db
If there are stacking penalties, he'd need to throw on another mod, probably basic would do.... so a suit with 2-3 high slots should be able to see you if you are not running a dampener or dampening at higher than L3.
If he was on the stairs though, you must have been just at the edge of his passive scan range if he wasn't running a range extender.
Personally, if I was going to run an assault suit, I'd have a range and precision mod (2 cplx) at all times... there is still plenty of room for tank on a suit like that.
Anyway - too bad you didn't get that headshot!!
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
423
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:49:00 -
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After this event my shotgun is going to feel like it has the range of a ar XD. Back peddling bastards wont escape
Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
623
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:05:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:After this event my shotgun is going to feel like it has the range of a ar XD. Back peddling bastards wont escape
Exactly how I felt when I took a break from knifing. It was almost ez mode after NK....I felt kinda dirty.... |
Qn1f3
Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:18:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Qn1f3 wrote: All this talk about NK's make me curious and I might end up trying them out, however I won't do as the full Scout squad that so desperately tried to slice me, that they ended up cuddling with the projectiles of my CR.
If you're a GalScout, I recommend sinking SP before passing judgement. ZN-28s at Operation III are quite different from ZN-28s at Proficiency III. Your CR will be an excellent primary; CR+NK is the Musturd Way :-) PS: Great stabbing squads last night :-)
Yeah I can imagine, so I would need at least ~500k SP to make it really worthwhile? Not really able to check the numbers as of now. I think I'll actually take them for a spinn, after all my name implies I want to whisper in your ear while I slit your throat with a blade. The name itself is far to old and immature, but it has come to be my netdentity.
But I will still do it Appia-style, that is to bring a gun to a knife fight! Which also is a thing I believe the most Novice NK'ers do wrong. There so focused on getting NK-kills that they forget to apply tactics and whits, I've been a SG-wielding bastard mainly, until recently, I think you could and should apply similar engagement methods when using the NK.
Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now? |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2060
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:20:00 -
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Driftward wrote:Also, I need to start squadding with you guys (and gals) semi-regularly. I feel like I'm missing out on so much... You are. I don't get to play all that much these days but when I do, I always have a blast with my scoutly buddies. Apart from the fun I have with my awesome corp friends, scouts are the reason I play this game.
Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
289
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:24:00 -
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Qn1f3 wrote: Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now?
Nope |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
12160
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:58:00 -
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Unfortunately no, I am and will always be an omni-soldier and that registry if any would be a very very small handful of folks who profess the love of the notion of being flexible over having prototype, just these two weeks I feel like a scouty sort of person.
Supposively Nova Knife himself is a pure scout but honestly he should hang out here more often.
Anyways would have knifed last round but the reds took to the roofs instead.
Got my recon sniper out, nailed 16 of the bastards and three other guys got on the train and began to snipe the roof clean I think we cloned them down of 40 clones this way until the OB came down and sanitized the place and the team took control of the single point. They could have stopped us if they brought in thieir own snipers to keep our heads down but nope.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Qn1f3
Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:29:00 -
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I can't decide if I'm trolling or not, but the PG-modules and leftover PG should enhance NK damage!
Using the exo-skeleton[is this right?] to channelize power into those shimmering blades, and electrocute those mindless clones of not-yet-knowing-your'e-dead-meat to make a BBQ of brobdingnagian proportions! |
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1398
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Unfortunately no, I am and will always be an omni-soldier and that registry if any would be a very very small handful of folks who profess the love of the notion of being flexible over having prototype, just these two weeks I feel like a scouty sort of person. Supposively Nova Knife himself is a pure scout but honestly he should hang out here more often. Anyways would have knifed last round but the reds took to the roofs instead. Got my recon sniper out, nailed 16 of the bastards and three other guys got on the train and began to snipe the roof clean I think we cloned them down of 40 clones this way until the OB came down and sanitized the place and the team took control of the single point. They could have stopped us if they brought in thieir own snipers to keep our heads down but nope. Omni-soldier GÇô just passing throughGǪ looking for that one armed man
If you ever get the opportunity to get on that roof with knives, it is GLORIOUS
Had a few opportunities to do this in the past and nothing clears a roof with near as much style. I love it when they turn around see you and jump off rather than face you Tip though take out the Fat kids first.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Lucifalic
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
208
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:44:00 -
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so i invested a bit to get some zn's... really havnt knifed much at all.
Bought some aur proto knives to be sure and went for a match. Went 12/7. 10 were knife kills and DAMN was it fun. I guess being a shotty ba$tard im used to doing the shuck and weave getting to peoples flanks so i didnt have much of a change that way. Just needed to get REAL close as you guys know.
Tonight is game night so i will be on in about 2 hours for some serious geeking (I really only get one game night a week and the occasional game here and there.... having 3 kids can do that to you fyi ;) |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
560
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:49:00 -
[7483] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Unfortunately no, I am and will always be an omni-soldier and that registry if any would be a very very small handful of folks who profess the love of the notion of being flexible over having prototype, just these two weeks I feel like a scouty sort of person. Supposively Nova Knife himself is a pure scout but honestly he should hang out here more often. Anyways would have knifed last round but the reds took to the roofs instead. Got my recon sniper out, nailed 16 of the bastards and three other guys got on the train and began to snipe the roof clean I think we cloned them down of 40 clones this way until the OB came down and sanitized the place and the team took control of the single point. They could have stopped us if they brought in thieir own snipers to keep our heads down but nope.
Hey, we could always make you an honourary scout.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
753
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:50:00 -
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Qn1f3 wrote: Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now?
doing a leroy jenkins into the middle of a full squad and blowing with REs
Post your top scores! My best so far is 4
Edit: the best is when its a heavy/logi duo. But do it now, cause in 1.8, heavies will be able to survive an RE blast! |
Lucifalic
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
208
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:52:00 -
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Its a good time theres no doubt there...
and
BOOM!!!!!!! |
One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
242
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:24:00 -
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I had a unique one recently, in which 2 reds decided to hack two objectives at the same time, both of which I had REs on.
Very interesting 1-2 combo.
Scouts don't let scouts accept more nerfs. Just say no to needless scout suit sacrifice.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
3977
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:27:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Qn1f3 wrote:Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now? doing a leroy jenkins into the middle of a full squad and blowing with REs Post your top scores! My best so far is 4 Edit: the best is when its a heavy/logi duo. But do it now, cause in 1.8, heavies will be able to survive an RE blast! My best was when I had remotes on an objective, and then two people decided to hack it at the same time!! It was awesome.....well, not really I guess....nothing very interesting happens to me
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
305
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:35:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Qn1f3 wrote: Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now?
doing a leroy jenkins into the middle of a full squad and blowing with REs Post your top scores! My best so far is 4 Edit: the best is when its a heavy/logi duo. But do it now, cause in 1.8, heavies will be able to survive an RE blast! Um heavies can already survive REs if they're tanked |
Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
4515
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:37:00 -
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Yeah, a Heavy onced walked through my RE with a small bit of health left, I was shitting bricks.
Knight Soiaire for SeePeeEm -1
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Oswald Rehnquist
1098
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Posted - 2014.01.16 23:37:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Qn1f3 wrote: Also, baiting and blowing with RE's is there anything more fun within the game as of now?
doing a leroy jenkins into the middle of a full squad and blowing with REs Post your top scores! My best so far is 4 Edit: the best is when its a heavy/logi duo. But do it now, cause in 1.8, heavies will be able to survive an RE blast!
My best was when squad finder was first introduced (I was squading with a random squad more often then). It was on the Line Harvest map which I killed 12 people within 2 mins into the match on objective B, a squad of 6 all went to hack one objective (boom), a second squad of 6 went to hack the same objective (boom). The whole squad of randoms was going wild when they saw my kill feed as I was doing my evil laugh.
Below 28 dB
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
12165
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:42:00 -
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Guy walks out of a tank to hack a supply depot, I didn't have time to go the long way around and had to do a frontal approach, he didn't see me at all. Drove a knife in his temple for his foolishness. Hacked the supply depot and tank and proceeded to murder his team with it. Poorly fitted tank though, shield boosted rail soma with no armor reppers but he managed to get another tank down to finally blow me to peices by then it was too late and the game was tiled in our favor.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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J0LLY R0G3R
Tickle My Null-Sac
351
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Guy walks out of a tank to hack a supply depot, I didn't have time to go the long way around and had to do a frontal approach, he didn't see me at all. Drove a knife in his temple for his foolishness. Hacked the supply depot and tank and proceeded to murder his team with it. Poorly fitted tank though, shield boosted rail soma with no armor reppers but he managed to get another tank down to finally blow me to peices by then it was too late and the game was tiled in our favor.
Most of the tanks people are willing to jump out of are poorly fitted XD
IF you happen to be carrying REs. Depending on how close your team is, just spam RE's on the tank and wait 0 XD
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
293
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:14:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Yeah, a Heavy onced walked through my RE with a small bit of health left, I was shitting bricks.
Happened to me today, too...
So I shot him with my CR. |
Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
293
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:18:00 -
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Had a strange one earlier ... knifed a guy hacking C, dropped a remote, started to counter hack....
Got shot and killed. Dropped to the ground and watched as the logi who shot me revived the knife victim.
So ... I hit the remote.
+50
+50
Overall, the most fun day I've had in New Eden ... got my highest kill total for a match to date, and got a warbage strike called in just for me... |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
57
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:34:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it!
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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Scout Registry
588
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:11:00 -
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WTF? Now please! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1729650#post1729650
scouts say no to quid pro quo
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Scout Registry
588
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:16:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it!
You may want to check in with the Minmatar Scouts before suggesting changes to their NK bonuses. Quite a few of them skilled into the suit for this exact reason.
As for Gallente bonuses, Scan Range is great, but I personally don't find Scan Precision to be particularly helpful.
Double Post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1729822#post1729822
scouts say no to quid pro quo
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Oswald Rehnquist
1102
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:18:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it!
If scouts are getting a base of 35 that is essentially is our old/current bonus, which is 34 when rounded compared to a base of 35 which is what CCP proposed, so with the suggested innate damp in the suit its already there. Add in an additional 25%, brings all scouts down to 27 (when rounded up), so perhaps this is intentionally. One also has to consider if the counters are still viable especially when we are getting the cloak, not saying it is or isn't but CCP will be concerned about it.
Another thing to consider is the current precision vs dampening meta game makes precision one of the most useless stats, thus most of us ignore it for the most part due to the fact that our profiles are innately so much lower than our precision, and our base precision is enough to catch most medium frames. I would like precision to be a more meaningful stat thus I am actually in favor of removing lopsided profile/precision, which is easily enough to throw any reduce number innately on our suit without it having to be a skill, so I think an overall cpu/pg reduction on anything with a biotic/electronic tag on any item or module would be a better role bonus.
I'm not going to go into huge detail but I think they is a discrepancy between your gal/min vs your cal/am scouts in skill utility. That being said, since I don't like a role bonus favoring profile over precision, I still think the gal scout should be profile reduction (which is what it is in eve), and the radius bonus, though I understand if I ruffle a few feathers with that one.
of the other two a few issues in utility in your proposition
Cal Scout 1) the cal scout is rendered moot by your gal scout 2) The cal scout bonus you suggested wouldn't even protect a team of mediums from a regular advance scanner 3) Running with medium frames is generally a bad idea in general unless they have ran scout because they don't move quite as intelligently 4) I would image the reduction to active scanners would be difficult to implement
Am Scout 1) The purpose to stamina is equipment running, so would need another a EQ slot over other scouts to justify this role 2) As you suggested if it got the stamina boost, it would need the cooldown reduction as well to open it up.
In addition
I believe CCP is actually getting rid of firing mechanic when cloak based on the fact in the "scouts not satisfied thread" they were inquiring about what the new c-scout bonus would be (and not the others), and the only reason I can come up with why they would just ask for the cal scout is due to the fact that bonus will no longer be part of the mechanic (they also have addressed the cpm's no cloak firing thread), which is why I'm thinking there will be no firing from cloak, thus I believe CCP is still fishing for their cal scout, so I don't believe anything is set for it.
Below 28 dB
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Oswald Rehnquist
1102
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:20:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136328&find=unread
This is my semi-final post in regards to Scout bonuses, as determined by community input. If you guys read it and tell me what you think, Id appreciate it! You may want to check in with the Minmatar Scouts before suggesting changes to their NK bonuses. Quite a few of them skilled into the suit for this exact reason. As for Gallente bonuses, Scan Range is great, but I personally don't find Scan Precision to be particularly helpful. Double Post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1729822#post1729822
precision isn't helpful because of three things
1) lopsided role bonus to profile
2) precision mods operating at one meta level below dampening mods
3) precision is mainly just used to catch scouts
Below 28 dB
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
687
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:35:00 -
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No, Scout Registry, The Gallente suit need a bonus to precision, it is too low right now ad has no high slots to stack the mods. . . unless the scout hugs include bringing the Scout back to its Chromosome level with 6 slots at proto.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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