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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4846
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Posted - 2014.01.13 08:38:00 -
[6961] - Quote
I'll just leave this here, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714401#post1714401
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3983
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Posted - 2014.01.13 08:42:00 -
[6962] - Quote
thank you.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
233
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Posted - 2014.01.13 08:53:00 -
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That's a relief, I may not have to run a Gal scout after all |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1292
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Posted - 2014.01.13 08:58:00 -
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numbers not finalGǪ until after they see how close we can get to people hunting us with scannersGǪ
Warning may contain tinfoil hat
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
233
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Posted - 2014.01.13 09:38:00 -
[6965] - Quote
Wow, so much dev info in this post!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134598
This is the most I've seen on the future of scouts. Ever.
Dev posts: Idea for Caldari scout bonus https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714080#post1714080
Scout development blues https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714134#post1714134
Scout melee buff https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714186#post1714186
TTK and damage adjustments for 1.8 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714234#post1714234
Scout scan profile change https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1714401#post1714401
With the melee damage buff, a proto mini scout will hit as hard as a heavy or an unbuffed ADV NK.
Scout love Soon...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3989
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Posted - 2014.01.13 09:54:00 -
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Oh so I can now use only NKs if I want to make my bonus useful.....
*Looks at MD/SG/CR and flinches*
It's not you baby it's me......
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4862
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Posted - 2014.01.13 09:57:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Oh so I can now use only NKs if I want to make my bonus useful..... *Looks at MD/SG/CR and flinches* It's not you baby it's me...... Very interesting point.
What about this: Since no one really uses nova knives outside of scouts, what if they were simply prefitted onto all scouts suits? You still wouldn't have a sidearm slot, but you'd get to pick a light weapon and have nova knives.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3989
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Posted - 2014.01.13 09:59:00 -
[6968] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Oh so I can now use only NKs if I want to make my bonus useful..... *Looks at MD/SG/CR and flinches* It's not you baby it's me...... Very interesting point. What about this: Since no one really uses nova knives outside of scouts, what if they were simply prefitted onto all scouts suits? You still wouldn't have a sidearm slot, but you'd get to pick a light weapon and have nova knives. and how would this work with NK tiers, I don't want to be restricted to STD knives.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4863
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Posted - 2014.01.13 10:01:00 -
[6969] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Oh so I can now use only NKs if I want to make my bonus useful..... *Looks at MD/SG/CR and flinches* It's not you baby it's me...... Very interesting point. What about this: Since no one really uses nova knives outside of scouts, what if they were simply prefitted onto all scouts suits? You still wouldn't have a sidearm slot, but you'd get to pick a light weapon and have nova knives. and how would this work with NK tiers, I don't want to be restricted to STD knives. Perhaps tier matches tier of dropsuit?
I'm simply thinking on the fly here
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
233
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Posted - 2014.01.13 10:36:00 -
[6970] - Quote
Maybe the frame variants become the racial variants?
So the mini is the assassin frame and retains the side arm slot, caldari is the battlefield intel slot and loses the side arm for equipment, etc?
I'm not keen on losing my side arm |
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1198
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Posted - 2014.01.13 13:59:00 -
[6971] - Quote
Base scan profile is getting reduced Caldari scout could get a jammer-like bonus and a 2nd equipment slot (I'd be okay with losing the sidearm tbh)
Now just buff scan range (25 would be nice *whistle*), give my cal scout a 4/2 or 3/2 slot layout (so I can fit enough range extenders to make that bonus actually worth a damn), and rework that gal logi bonus then I will be a happy scout.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Shutter Fly
molon labe. Public Disorder.
168
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:11:00 -
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Personally, I really like this, as I don't normally run a sidearm on my Scout. Although, it makes me really hope we get some kind of respec, as there will be a few weapons that I will likely no longer need as a result of this.
I do know of a few people that won't be very happy with this, though. No more SG/SMG combo on a Gal Scout. |
noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
407
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:13:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Personally, I really like this, as I don't normally run a sidearm on my Scout. Although, it makes me really hope we get some kind of respec, as there will be a few weapons that I will likely no longer need as a result of this. I do know of a few people that won't be very happy with this, though. No more SG/SMG combo on a Gal Scout.
Or combat rifle and knives on the mimi
Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
British ninja cowboy
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1198
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:16:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:I do know of a few people that won't be very happy with this, though. No more SG/SMG combo on a Gal Scout.
Or combat rifle and knives on the mimi [/quote]
Remnant said he planned to keep the min scout at 1x sidearm and 1x equipment.
No sidearm does make the gal shotty scout quite a bit more challenging to use though.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Shutter Fly
molon labe. Public Disorder.
168
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:20:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:Personally, I really like this, as I don't normally run a sidearm on my Scout. Although, it makes me really hope we get some kind of respec, as there will be a few weapons that I will likely no longer need as a result of this. I do know of a few people that won't be very happy with this, though. No more SG/SMG combo on a Gal Scout. Or combat rifle and knives on the mimi Actually, Remnant mentioned the possibility of the Minmatar getting a sidearm here. |
noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
408
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:22:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:noob cavman wrote:Or combat rifle and knives on the mimi Remnant said was considering keeping the min scout at 1x sidearm and 1x equipment. No sidearm does make the gal shotty scout quite a bit more challenging to use though.
*breaks down and kneels* THERE IS A GOD
Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
British ninja cowboy
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1198
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:26:00 -
[6977] - Quote
Ah, crap. I just realized the no sidearm thing throws a wrench into my planned AV scout (when the swarm was actually useful).
If I choose the Cal, Am, or Gal scouts for AV, I have no way to defend myself. If I choose the Min for an AV suit, I lose an equipment slot so I can't run both REs and a Nano.
We seriously need a AV light suit. Give it 2x light weapons and 2x equipment but less slots.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Scout Registry
443
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:39:00 -
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We've waited for a god-d*mn hug. What we're getting is a god-d*mn trade.
* Snipers? Screwed * Shotgunners? Screwed * Knifers? Screwed * Dual Sidearms? Screwed * Swarm/AV Fits? Screwed
Responded to Remnant's points: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1715195#post1715195
^ If I'm wrong somewhere, let me know and I'll fix it.
Minmatar might go unaffected. At least they got that part right. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1198
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:40:00 -
[6979] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:If I'm wrong somewhere, let me know and I'll fix it.
As stated above, the min scout may keep its sidearm but stay at 1x equipment.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
1838
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:50:00 -
[6980] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:We've waited for a god-d*mn hug. What we're getting is a god-d*mn trade. * Snipers? Screwed * Shotgunners? Screwed * Knifers? Screwed * Dual Sidearms? Screwed * Swarm/AV Fits? Screwed Responded to Remnant's points: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1715195#post1715195^ If I'm wrong somewhere, let me know and I'll fix it. Minmatar might go unaffected. At least they got that part right.
I just like the fact that Remnant is replying to everything.
Also, I like these changes. I might hurt our ability to slay (losing a sidearm), but this might mean that they are actually giving us a ROLE. And that seems to be very stealth based and equipment based.
Minmatar is the exception, but I'm fine with only having one equip. Gimme a cloak, and I'll be happy.
Just my take on this.
Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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dzizur
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.01.13 14:52:00 -
[6981] - Quote
2 x EQ! YEAH! **** the cloak, i'm going full psycho with a proto nanohive and remotes ;D |
dzizur
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:08:00 -
[6982] - Quote
oh and btw, i think ccp though that if they give us second EQ AND a sidearm, we're going to actually be albo to fit something to that second eq slot lol |
Scout Registry
443
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:16:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just like the fact that Remnant is replying to everything. Also, I like these changes. I might hurt our ability to slay (losing a sidearm), but this might mean that they are actually giving us a ROLE. And that seems to be very stealth based and equipment based. Minmatar is the exception, but I'm fine with only having one equip. Gimme a cloak, and I'll be happy.
Just my take on this.
If Cloak has major offensive AND evasive capabilities, then I can understand CCP needing to nerf Scouts to coincide with its release.
Even so, it'll be a sad day if I have to kill with a Rifle. No style. No excitement. No fun.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3995
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:18:00 -
[6984] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just like the fact that Remnant is replying to everything. Also, I like these changes. I might hurt our ability to slay (losing a sidearm), but this might mean that they are actually giving us a ROLE. And that seems to be very stealth based and equipment based. Minmatar is the exception, but I'm fine with only having one equip. Gimme a cloak, and I'll be happy.
Just my take on this.
If Cloak has major offensive AND evasive capabilities, then I can understand CCP needing to nerf Scouts to coincide with its release. Even so, it'll be a sad day if I have to kill with a Rifle. No style. No excitement. No fun. I've been using the CR lately and feeling this, it's extremely effective, but it can get boring really quick and I end up doing stupid **** to try and get enjoyment out of it.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
211
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:22:00 -
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Wow, lots of scout news/rumors out there this morning...
Blue tags everywhere.
I'll admit ... I'm kind of excited to see what's happening. I love my minja fit with the CR/Knives ... but the thought of being able to run my G Scout with a pistol/rifle of choice with RE's AND uplinks ... makes me smile. I don't think I can resist that.
And dropping the scan profile to 35 db? Yes.
I think there HAS to be a respec in the offing... |
Scout Registry
443
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:27:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote: I've been using the CR lately and feeling this, it's extremely effective, but it can get boring really quick and I end up doing stupid **** to try and get enjoyment out of it.
Exactly.
I've been running RR and NKs lately. Given the opportunity, I'll always kill a merc with knives rather than plugging him in the back of the head from safe distance. Because its more fun.
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dzizur
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:28:00 -
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oh i just realised something, they said the're taking away sidearm for EQ, but it's not specified which tiers are w/o sidearm ,and which ones are with 2 EQ slots. hope it will not turn out that all tiers - no sidearm, proto- additional eq ;) |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
626
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:30:00 -
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dzizur wrote:oh i just realised something, they said the're taking away sidearm for EQ, but it's not specified which tiers are w/o sidearm ,and which ones are with 2 EQ slots. hope it will not turn out that all tiers - no sidearm, proto- additional eq ;)
Remmnant stated Gal, Cal and Am would all lost sidearm regardless of level suit.
Only Min might keep it.
In your blind spot
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
239
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:37:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:We've waited for a god-d*mn hug. What we're getting is a trade. * Snipers? Screwed * Shotgunners? Screwed * Knifers? Screwed * Dual Sidearms? Screwed * Swarm/AV Fits? Screwed Responded to Remnant's points: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1715195#post1715195^ If I'm wrong somewhere, let me know and I'll fix it. Minmatar might go unaffected. At least they got that part right.
Snipers screwed? - NOT IN THIS LIFE! Shotgunners screwed? - Maaaybe, but alive & kickin... sometimes Knifers screwed? - Sad, but looks like yes ('Operation Shinobi'... ) Dual Sidearms screwed? - hm... i saw "dualsidearmsscoutkillfeed" few days ago Swarm/AV Fits screwed? - Sica is a new AV fit
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
494
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Posted - 2014.01.13 15:37:00 -
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I seriously don't understand why scouts have to lose a slot for an equipment...if its actually a suit variation, thats fine. But not if we only get a single variant of suit.
Ive also thrown out my ideas. Remnant stated this is a threadnaught, so go place your thoughts in that thread so they don't get buried here.
Even tho minimtar is untouched, I am not sure if that a good or bad thing.
PHI Recruitment
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