Remmnant stated Gal, Cal and Am would all lose sidearm regardless of level suit.

Only Min might keep it.

Yes, we bloody-well can.

Scan profile and precison is measured in decibels.

This means that our suits' electronics are picking us up based not only on our electronic signature but the amount of noise our suits are making.

Armor plates should carry a scan profile penalty. It should be done in such a way that if you're stacking up to logi (almost heavy!) level hit points on your 4/5 lowslot scout suit, then even a heavy will see your ass coming on tacnet. Cloak or no cloak. I'm talking about a dra-freaking-matic penalty here. One plate, every scout's gonna see you even if the rest of your lows are damps. More than one plate, might as well not damp at all (which these brick-tank scouts aren't doing anyway, so that won't change... only thing that will change is they won't be able to have brick tank AND stealth anymore).

Here is my proposal:

Remove one slot from each scout and give them better innate abilities.
Remove all ewar based bonus from racial skills.
All meta levels of cloak drop dB to 14. And remove you from tac net when active.

Role bonus: 95% bonus to cloak fitting
Racial bonus:
Amarr: 20% to armor repair rate while cloaked.
Gal: 10% bonus to cloak duration, 20% bonus to hack speed while cloaked.
Cal: % bonus to precision while cloaked(whatever number is required to hit 14dB) not shared with squad.
Minja: Same NK bonuses and 10% bonus to walk/sprint speed while cloaked.

Above proposal allows several things.
Wave of opportunity with cloak including precision.
Loss of slot keeps scouts into glass cannon role, get in, and gtfo.
New skills would allow each scout to excel in its role.

Please punch holes. I don't think we can balance with the current ewar model so lets just stop debating it. I'm tired of being forced to run damps to remain viable on the field. Truth is, I think requiring cloak is the best way to implement scout bonuses. I don't care what appia says. Allowing a really strong bonus for 30 seconds is a great way to sacrifice a slot IMO. Having a wave of opportunity is hallmark if a scout suit.

The last of the great Scout Corps was RONIN.
CEO Lightning xVx has retired; corp status is unknown; contact Arbiter 2203 or Keeriam Miray for more information.

Outer.Heaven is known to boast a high concentration of excellent Scouts.
CEO Radar R4D-47 has retired; can't speak for the quality of current management other than to say Reiselia has a voice which is squeaky and abrasive. Contact Mr Musturd or Cyrius Li-Moody for more information.

Fatal Absolution is also known for having excellent Scouts.
CEO Zatara Rought also has a voice which is squeaky and abrasive, but less so than Reiselia's. He is currently advocating for change to backpedal speed; as such, we've forgiven him and all past faults (including but not limited to his coms). Contact Ghost Kaisar or Arkena Wyrnspire for more information.

---

On the topic of old-school Scouts, I see that you're on the Wall.
Glad you found us; welcome back. o7

Compact nanohive used to give me packs of +7 Charge Sniper Rifle ammo per tick.. Now it's 5. And the thing ran out a lot sooner than it should have.

What unsung change was made that now causes nanohives to give sniper rifles less ammo?

That, coupled with the draconian reduction on the Charge SR's clip size AND total ammo carried, may be too much. I've only sniped one Dom match so far, had 11 kills (including 2 ADV sentinels, both times I missed the headshot the first time and scored a body shot, followed up by a headshot before their shields had charged to 50% or so - I'm satisfied with headshot performance). It was a smaller Dom map, so the range hasn't been an issue - yet. When I snipe Fracture Road Dom, I'll let you know how 400m feels.

Hm, I switched to use Knives and BreachScP on my Cal scout and I am doing fine.

In fact, I'm doing great! I love knives!

The new cloak delay doesn't really bother me at all. It feels clunky at first, but I got used to it very quickly.

TPLAK

I don't recall any times yesterday I didn't finish a hack.

But as someone else pointed out, I did notice the delay when I had cloak equipped, even though I never activated it.

~ Charged weapons suffer from the same "lock" as Automatic Weapons (Probably due to hold down non-spaming of trigger)

Got myself more than a few Flaylock killsGǪ feeling that buff

I legitimately feel like everyone is stupid, and is working entirely in their own interests.

And this fit
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1261/9081

Has more 260 HP more than this fit
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1261/9838

They just move at about the same speed.

Also comparing against commandos is just silly. Commandos aren't in a great place.

And comparing basic against proto is just silly. Unless you're proposing tiericide in which case I'm all for it.

When they started talking about a scan falloff I thought it would look something like this:

precision modifier: 100 / 120 / 140
range modifier: 50 / 75 / 100

I guess I was wrong...

Kk. Wrapping it up. Same concept, new offsets (regulators, rechargers, energizers).

In the spirit of raptor-kills and headshots, I recorded a match yesterday where I used a leap-kill one time during a very intense engagement, got the headshot damage bonus and survived because of it.

I was in a hacking fit, not my usual knifing fit. It may also be worth noting I play on m/kb

This is a very short video, headshot is at 0:44.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SMBXtbYpVQ

(the 720 quality option should be available soon)

Is there a specific setting you used, or did you just deactivate voice for the channel you were active in?

As Vitantur already said, yes.

Bear in mind, coz I can't tell from how you worded your question whether you realise, that *any* minmatar scout suit will benefit fully from the min scout dropsuit skill. So your +15% hack speed bonus from L3 minscout skill will apply to all min scout suits. Not just the Neo.

Line of site is always unbeatable while uncloaked.

And while cloaked you need to be out of their range and/or beat their precision.

How so?

Are you aiming down sights or hipfirig at the target? If the latter, does ADSing correct the lack of chevron?

btw please no knifing me when I run a heavy a lil this weekend.
..
jk
250k per nova knife death . up to 1mill per game or until I go broke.

*looks at Sinboto's sig*

Forum warrior 5 prof 2, you say?

... What do I count as?

Forum warrior 5, prof 5, superprof 5, amazingprof 5, legendary prof 1?

I don't understand all the rage over the damage increase.

It's barely going to do anything.

The spread has fluctuated between +2% and +5% this week, but I agree that this isn't enough for the MN Assault to be called "FoTM". The Assault Class' spread of +50% to +70% ... that's a different story.

Solution!

Swap Logi and Assault Speed.

Logis as a whole get a little 'bit better, without disturbing class parity
Assaults as a whole get a little 'bit worse, without disturbing class parity

A lot of what I have seen suggested is that it would be a meta lock on the overall fit, so you could choose what gear you use at adv and even proto tiers, but that you will result in lower tier items elsewhere to make up the difference, or you sacrifice modules and other items all together.

The correct answer is 'why are you using an LAV turret'.

Nobody is looking for a perfectly level playing field in Dust, we just want a low-pressure place for newbies to play the game. It won't be perfect, but it'll definitely help.

If that were true APEX suits would be just as much of a stomp problem.
You're also completely ignoring the issue of fittings pg/cpu
And a std suit with proto weapon and milita mods vs a low-mid SP straight advanced fit?
My money is on the advanced suit. Except maybe in the case of a scrambler rifle.

Not at all, Jebus. By the fantastical power of squadding alone, you could've repelled that stomp! Doesn't matter who the squaddies are, how they play or what they wear. It's magic!

(I've read it a few times now ... "4 man squads? meta locks? no way! the best way to fix stomps is to automatically squad players together and turn their mics on ... then they won't be stomped." <---- Srsly!? )

LIterally every goddamn time I join a full squad with mics I get asked 'Hey, you actually play the game? I thought you just went on the forums'.

Then I long for friendly fire.


I know Kirk gets this a lot in Gal FW as well, actually.

It's already hard enough to convince people that Basic suits should get a buff even without telling them that we gonna nerf their beloved specialized suits.

Okay so story time again. For the last few matches, in an attempt to get all my daily quests done for some keys, I've been running around in a g-1 scout trying to kill installations. My setup was adv swarm launcher, adv flaylock, flux nades, adv nanohives, remote explosives, profile dampener and a light damage mod. Basically it was built from the ground up to destroy installations. I would sneak around trying to find enemy installations and quietly destroy them. It was a kind of fun little minigame, avoid all combat and take out the enemy installations not guarded by enemy mercs or overzealous blueberries.

Unfortunately there were almost no turrets on this map, meaning I had to try and take out the ludicrously overtanked CRUs and supply depots. The problem was exacerbated by the fact that for some reason the redberries kept spawning at the totally out-of-the-way points way in the boonies where I was trying to do my dirty work, so I was forced to try and kill them with just the flaylock. Which I did, repeatedly. I ended the match 15-6. They just kept coming, like little ants swarming over my food, and so I had to keep stomping them away in a vain attempt to keep them off the installations. At one point I went on a 10 killstreak: after having exhausted every single shot in the flaylock and BOTH nanohives, I achieved the 10th and final kill 2v1 by literally beating a caldari assault to death with my bare hands. At the end of the match I had managed to destroy exactly zero installations.

I am exhausted

Nearing my 100th without a single BPO.

I have received 5 officer weapons, and a bunch of boosters. Try saving them, it seems to produce better rewards. Keyword: Seems, as I doubt CCP could do something like that.

Short story time!

So I was playing skirmish last night and was using my jumpy mass driving min assault. We were on the old map with the L pipes, can't remember the name. So we start from the Delta side and I make my way over to Bravo. I look over the railing and see a red dot looking confused so I decided to jump over and let my MD rounds help him find his way.

As I am falling towards the guy I get 1 round off and out of nowhere a drop ship crashes out of the sky and lands right on top of the guy. It was the one time I wish I had recording equipment. I was laughing so hard I ended up getting myself killed.

You got a BPO from salvage!?

It does. I knew where the shotgun blasts were coming from from watching one of Kaeru's videos. Perhaps the left/right balance is better at my PC (small 5.1 setup) than in my front room (large 5.1 setup, and I don't notice this in-game whilst I'm playing, probably because I would have to turn it up).

Headphones make a difference too.



Wow. Obnoxious as this is for me to say, as a scout, you're doing it wrong. You know you can hear footsteps right? Or are you *really* playing scout? :-p

There isn't even that much of that going on. Definitely not nearly enough to justify those statements.

Daily newborn player average is something like 200 IIRC.

Explosive Plate Armor maybe the fix for Flaylock/Massdriving /Remote throwing Scouts/Assaults
Cross remember this one.Maybe we don't need to nerf the Jump.

I actually think those numbers are within accurate ranges. The unstated 'bite' there however, or "the other shoe" is that of NPE quality and player retention. I do not have specific numbers but it is my understanding that player retention within the 1-3 day metric is, shall we say, less than ideal.

Think of it like a banker, he can accurately state that he has his hands on thousands of dollars every single day... but how much of that he gets to keep by days end is a very different prospect. (As is reflected in the case of Dust by sustained player trends, most of that baseline are the minority that make it through the initial period and become invested in the game.)

0.02 ISK

I'm with you on this one - others have said they've had hundreds of mail sitting there and it doesn't always lag. Confirmation bias perhaps? Some maps lag harder than others....do mercs send mail more often for these specific maps? Do mercs see the Gal Lag facility and think to themselves, "Hmm lemme just email my mate to tell him I hate this map"?

Nah, I stick to my prediction that it is related to sound, based on the tiniest of stutters I sometimes notice when an audio sound begins. It's like, the Gal Lag facility creates a feedback loop or some craziness because of all the tunnels...and where you gonna drop that orbital huh?

Well, I think i'm putting away my Min Scout fit for now. I'll still run a sprint NK fit at the start but I find the fits are just to expensive and die to easily, even running advanced.

Time to go back to my roots.

I doubt logi's are that effective

You'd be surprised, sometimes performance bottlenecks happen in weird places. I predict that we'll see a marked improvement in menu navigation speeds at the very least. Also remember that the skin stuff is mainly being implemented with the goal of reducing memory usage, which should also impact performance.

First! I'll take that 10 million bet.

3 minute video, this is for Shotty.


My last words on coms:
Wait ! I am not frago, I AM KAERU D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=2cP6Yc3Nvu4

SL had to change mode, but finally got into a match! And we lost!

Acquisition. Enemy was first to the letter; they dug in. Our squad made a single push, our pilot sh!t talking about "being beast" all the while. We were repelled, his tank was popped, and the beasts in my squad retreated to sniping positions on rooftops and in the hills.

AlrightGǪ so Does the soft spot count as centre mass of a vehicleGǪ because I see some problems here

LMAO bragging over a pub score, worse yet

14/1 HAHAHAH thats me on a cold day when my fingers are frozen

Can confirm that Weary Guy is, in fact, my alt who I use to troll myself.

i dont need a life, and have a lot of free time

no i don't live with my parents

A huge issue that seems to go ignored on all scanning discussion and IMO is kinda a big issue.
The newer introduced suitsGǪ Amarr and Cal Scouts, All non Amarr Heavies (Sent and Commando) show up on Passive Scans as a V that gives a facing for anyone paying attention. This is something that people should be aware of and should be addressed by CCP.

I'm about to begin the final day of my Minja marathon.

fit

straight edge talk blah blah blah

I would much rather see some effort put into figuring out why MM is creating poor experiences and resolve that.

Stealth? EWAR? MS Nova Knives damage? Though ATM i still think speedtanking is more viable then stealth cause of the stupid inner ring. If only scrubs would STFU.

Holy **** that's me with a rifle.

I have a long weekend and am seriously considering hooking up the PS3 to my PC keyboard and mouse and seeing if I can't shoot straight with a Gal Assault and actually be useful......though it will feel dirty if it works.

Didn't want to cause a riot, but I am more and more failing to catch backpeddling medium frames. It's so hard to say for sure, since we're splitting hairs, and I know OEK and others made posts about it before. Just hoping a dev can simply "look under the hood" and make sure it's still where it should be after the recent hotfix.

Lol i feel the same way.

Just knifed a FoTM assault mk.0 using an agimus Modified mass driver 5 times. King Babar HAHAHAB scrub

Being stuck in an uplink with 10 other clones?

Directional V on Tac for Amarr/Caldari Scout, and non Amarr Commando and Sentinels.

It is true. By the time I joined Scouts United, it was already full of FOTM chasers. I kinda made Nova Knifers United in response.

Fun fact: I did make a second channel called 'Minmatar Scouts United' in response to several people - specifically Shady Assassin - claiming that the Minja was a bad suit. It never really took off, and it's dead now.

\o/

Ai. I'm hoping the walk buff to commandos will get my Galmando with kincats up to 8 m/s. It's already kinda fun at 7.44. The stamina is a problem but CQC has got to be a blast (pun intended) with these suits. NEED MOAR EWAR lol.

I always get stuck on the EOM after matches that I do really well in, so that myself (or, more importantly, my squadmates) can't see it.

I was just in a match whilst squadded with musturd. Only died once and racked up what must have been 20-25 kills; I wanted him to see it...

[Yes, Pseudo, I did use that semi-colon correctly xD]

Dust

Variable Frame Rate: Bad
Solid Frame Rate: Undecided

Completely missed that line. Haven't heard anything at all about new subsystems; guess they'll add them later.

Too late for -1 slot, I think. Thinking Logis and Commandos are going to be too strong for that to fly.

/ arsepull

2. No worries. We were all experiencing framerate issues yesterday; hoping things run more smoothly today! Did we get the pronunciation of your name right?

Would be neat to see some diversity in low slot utilization ...
What do you guys think about this?

Well, it would make me mad if I were putting my ISK on the line and losing it when there are people playing completely risk-free using BPOs that they invested absolutely nothing to minimum in. It's unfair, basically.

I'd be surprised if that didn't bother you too, TBH.

Exactly.

Although I will point out that the price of an APEX is about $30, rather than $10.

In my opinion it is worth it. Despite you having to pay actual money for something that is no better than an ADV.

So this evening I gained a little insight and empathy for what CCP Devs have to go through with glitches.

Why?

Because apparently a computer thinks 4.2, if you extend it to 10 decimal places, is actually 4.19999868

And then you think you rounded 4.2 just to be sure it REALLY got it, but no, it still thinks its ^

Luckily I figured it out with some help, but seriously, it makes me question whether Skynet is a real threat.

Wait a minute here, I thought we all just really liked odb.

Currently facepalming a handprint into my face. Will show a pic when i stop

The most recent patch has exacerbated framerate issues, if anything.

Thukker Light.

Looks cool, but I like the Brutor better. Too much white on the Thukker for my taste. I want to do a straight trade for the Brutor if possible.

All BPOs suits used to be different suits. Now all BPOs for a race and role have been made into one standard suit and a skin.

Next step is making all tiers one suit with different cores.

I think the way they roled it out in stages did hurt performance, but I believe they did it to help even the playing field some.

The "database" isn't really an issue. The issue has always been RAM. Less suits to render means more ram. More loadouts aren't really a problem since they use the same suits.

I haven't even logged on yet and I already don't feel like playing.

I LOVE THE PLC!!! I FCKN LOVE IT!

It's so epic! 'Satisfying' nowhere near describes the feeling of abruptly blapping some tryhard at some crazy distance or angle! I've been finding myself legitimately screaming 'GET REKT SKRUB 360 MLG NO-SCOPE 420 BLAZEITT!!!

Oh man, oh man, it blows NKs out of the water...

Why didn't anyone tell me that the PLC was the cure to rage???

Here's my fit:

Scout MK.0:

KLA-90 Plasma Cannon
Ishukone Nova Knives
ARN-18 Cloak Field
K-2 Nanohive
Complex Shield Extender x2
Enhanced Shield Extender
Complex Profile Dampener
Complex Kinetic Catalyser x2
'Thukker' MN-L SKIN

Looking for minmatar skins, light or medium trading officer suit gallente heavy skin and officer gear

Do... Do you run BPOs, or all proto?

There are varying degrees of tryhardiness that I need to know of.

What mods does the Tiger Scout have?

You have to replace them with actual consumable ISK mods unless you have the BPOs if you want a different loadout, right?

I pulled out my old fit from 1.8

Fucking godly.

Scout C/1 Series + Six Kin ACR.
2 Enhanced Shield Extenders
M1 Locus
2 Basic Myofibs
Bor-2 Repair Tool
Ishukone Nova Knives

Godly I tell you, godly!

I nominate xavior zor. It's like he just turned up one day and said 'I AM HERE, AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU!'. He's like that one awkward annoying kid that you try to ignore.

While I appreciate your concern about my knowledge of this game, please go look again. The bonus was changed to an overheat period reduction, NOT a heat build-up reduction (which would be ridiculous, and the specific bonus that players asked CCP not to implement in the various feature request threads for the bonus change to begin with.)



Therefore, the above statement is patently false. There has been zero change to the number of shots that Scrambler Rifle can unleash before overheating, with or without an Amarr Assault suit.

My previous statement still stands. Yes, hit detection improved in 1.6, but this is NOT the same as the Scrambler rifle itself changing. Many weapons now perform better in 1.6, including the AR, SMG, and Scrambler pistol. This is what is causing the frustration over TTK, but it is affecting many weapons not just the Scrambler Rifle.

The overheat reduction bonus in practice really only affects the survivability of the user - not the weapon's stopping power. You have less downtime if you overheat, and most skilled players know how to avoid the overheat (or skill into the suit that avoids it). While you are correct that a change to the rifle occurred, it was hardly one that suddenly broke the weapon, compared to the generalized "buff" that most weapons received when hit detection was improved.

I don't enjoy it though, that's the thing. I never have fun anymore, and playing the game feels like a chore. Yet, I'm addicted. I don't want to play, but I do anyway.

Hehe yeah - many times I've waited then realised death is imminent as they achieve LoS 20m away with an automatic weapon. I don't often do it any more...

This is probably my favourite personal moment of bastardry. One of the mercs involved is my #1 hate mail giver which made it all the more satisfying. I'm usually stabbing him but got him and his pal good with other means lol.

Ck.0
No idea what his light was.
Kaal BP
Core Locus
No idea EQ.
No idea slotwise

I ran
Ck.0 Assault
Kaal RR
ADV BP
M1 Locus
No EQ
Nothing in slots.

I also spent the first 1/4th of the match making a new fitting. Prior to this I had one assault, and it was a makeshift Sniper.

What about a scrub section for the nos nothi folk that think they are l33t?

Dries are you JEALOUS!??!

DAMN RIGHT!

ark i have some rattatis i want to trade/sell btw

WHY THE HELL IS 153 MS PING CONSIDERED NORMAL?!?!

Yeah, but in other games, people with high ping get kicked and encouraged to play in the right regional server.

I want to see mean, meadian, mode, and range for ping on these serves. I bet you the range is absolutely INSANE.

That's only if you calculate average using the mean, which is **** for dealing with outliers. If you calculate the median of those numbers then it comes out to a nice and even 70 ms. I've never understood why people always use the mean for averaging, it's so bad

As in Quafe PLC? What sort of price are you looking for? I've a couple BPOs, some ISK, and a whole load of officer gear.

Also I don't know about PS3 dedicated headsets, but I've got an absolutely fantastic pair of headphones that I always recommend, the Logitech G430. Super comfortable, great sound, and I've had them for a year and a half with no technical issues. The only downside is PS3 audio can't play through them, but the mic works just fine with the PS3. Apparently they only cost $40 on the website right now

I'm going to test this min scout SG idea. I don't anticipate it working to well unless you're fighting poor players. I've only seen one scout pul this off effectively in the past.

Will update with my personal findings.

DevHax!
Vahzz = GJR = Secret Dev Alt!

This is more wild than that time when we discovered the truth about Aeon, Cat Merc and Sgt Kerp!

Why would.. oh myGǪ
i
don't


evenGǪ

my bet was not with you, with mollerz...and it has been reschedueled because i thought leaderboards reset on thurs not wednesday

/stocks madrugar gv.0s & sniper suits

.....ok

I'm not following your logic, Llast. Mercs can already dual tank if they wish to. What am I missing?

Better armor-v-shield unit interplay and fewer instances of high hitpoint / high mobility.
That said, I don't think that Myofibs themselves are a problem. I'd rather see armor nerfed.

@ dzizur, here's the thread behind my thought process:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2925184#post2925184

Myos seem perfectly fine in high slots tbh. For a long time, almost all the good mods went in low slots. We're finally starting to see this change. Why is this a bad thing? Without myos in high slots, the only worthwhile mods that go in highs would be shields and damage mods.

Do you know there are like 10 books by Frank Herbert and I think at least another five decent ones by his son? Reason I wonder if you know - you will be one hell of a reader if you manage to get through those in a weekend.

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Hey Ark...

The mic's out of it's packaging.

I like.

Active scans should give you a brief snapshot not constant scans for a long time after. I will say though one good suggestion I've seen is to make active scans active. As in it scans for as long as you have it out and hold the scan button. Then add a similar duration like the cloak to limit how long you can scan for. Either are better than current mechanics IMO.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

RatMan is mad with us! He chose 4!

What?

Knifing's in the best place it's ever been in!

Look Dizzy you famous.

Favourite kill


Fun stuff as always MRRRR BEAST