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Appia Nappia
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:58:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:If a scout has no damps it should be picked up by a medium frame with a single complex precision mod. At first glance, this sounds reasonable. To me, at least. But having looked into the numbers, satisfying this request would require a massive buff to Assault Precision (50dB --> 38 dB), a massive nerf to Scout Profile (35 dB --> 42 dB) or some combination of the two. If we did this, we'd end up creating new problems at the low end of the dB spectrum, where dampened Scouts will find themselves getting scanned regardless of how many dampeners they stack. If the past is any indication, precision beating profile at the low-end of the spectrum leads to EWAR imbalance. So how can we address the high-end of the spectrum (where "assault lite" lives) without disrupting balance at the low-end of the spectrum? I'm wondering how a buff to the 28 dB scanners might play out ... not so much for GA Logis, but for the other guys (like Assault or Commando) who are demanding the ability to scan undampened Scouts. Working out the math ... The undampened GA/CA Scout Profile is 27 dB uncloaked, 25 dB adv cloaked and 24 dB proto cloaked. If the 28 dB scanner were buffed to 24 dB, it would scan single-damped MN and AM Scouts. Not good. If it were buffed to 25 dB, it would not scan single-damped scouts (unless wielded by the counter-recon specialist GA Logi) ... A 25 dB proto scanner would scan at 19 dB when wielded by a GA Logi. This would paint all single-damped (dodged by GA/CA if proto cloaked) but would not paint any double-damped Scouts. This seems reasonable to me. It'd satisfy the demand to curb undampened Scouts without mucking up competitive EWAR. What do you guys think? I would rather this than start messing about with EWAR. Would it also work if perhaps Assaults gained a slight bonus to the module efficacy of precision? It would have to be less than the scout bonus, and I certainly haven't worked out the numbers, but that could be an option as well maybe.
The premise itself is dumb as ****. The Scout needs to have 1 precision enhancer to see an undampened scout. That's the base. That's the only way for ewar to be balanced.
And messing with the Active scanner values **** over medium frames. If you decrease the proto scanner below 28 then there is no reason for a medium frame to use profile dampeners. . . and thanks to the gal logi precision bonus they can't participate regardless of how useful/OP or underperforming the EQ is.
So very tired
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Appia Nappia
1333
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:03:00 -
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Basically, if you think a scout needs to dedicate all of its slots to ewar then you're basically saying: It's not fair! Scouts aren't supposed to participate in combat.
Which is, was, and will be the continued theme of every "Nerf the Scout" thread.
So very tired
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5841
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:06:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote: And messing with the Active scanner values **** over medium frames. If you decrease the proto scanner below 28 then there is no reason for a medium frame to use profile dampeners. . . and thanks to the gal logi precision bonus they can't participate regardless of how useful/OP or underperforming the EQ is.
If we buffed 28 dB Active Scanner to 25 dB, we'd have to bump Med Profile down by 5 to maintain status quo (2 damps to beat proto scans). No real problem, in my opinion; we'd already discussed doing this for Assault.
Lots of folks are demanding the ability to scan undampened scouts. This approach satisfies the demand and is much safer than mucking with EWAR.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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mollerz
5537
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:14:00 -
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There's even a player in there advocating scouts should only have sidearms. Are we regressing to that now?
Bet your bottom dollar that same dude will say sidearms shouldn't kill.
We should almost start a nerf heavy thread. Even if it's a parody if you could fine tune it so you sucked them into a debate it would be just desserts. I bet they don't even come in here.
I'm seriously fukn serious
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4824
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:19:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:mollerz wrote: It's to take the edge off the pudding.
There is no need for sauce with pudding. If it was made right all the flavors should be an inherent part of the food Which is why I only use A.1 sauce on low quality meat I'm of the same mind. The only real condiment I tolerate is mustard. And even then it has to be the real deal.. mad seeds and all. I have collected a pretty nice spice cabinet.. farmer's markets are gold mines for that. And to me that goes way further with cooking than premade sauces. Grow my own spices, and supplement what i can't grow through the farmers market Well wtf dude! What choo got? show us your spice hand! Sadly, I live in a cave.. but I have been amassing a collection of seeds for when I move into the light! So far I have this: - heirloom Chinese chives - mahogany red blooms (edible flowers) - Siam Queen Thai basil - spitfire (scarlet red edible flower blooms) Weird right? This is mainly form a wine club shipment :D What else should I get? Lucky enough to live near the river so I have great soil and a good compost heap to supplement. Let's see I have Cilantro three varieties of Mint (one tastes like chocolate mintGǪ that **** on lamb is fantastic ) Dill Coriander The holy trinity of spices Rosemary, Sage, Thyme A bunch of other stuff that I am forgettingGǪ
We are lucky and have a good garden. Though my pumpkins failed this year So taking the kids out to the patch next week Yes Spade the potatoes did fine have to dig up the last batch tomorrow.
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
5541
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:29:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Lucky enough to live near the river so I have great soil and a good compost heap to supplement. Let's see I have Cilantro three varieties of Mint (one tastes like chocolate mintGǪ that **** on lamb is fantastic ) Dill Coriander The holy trinity of spices Rosemary, Sage, Thyme A bunch of other stuff that I am forgettingGǪ We are lucky and have a good garden. Though my pumpkins failed this year So taking the kids out to the patch next week Yes Spade the potatoes did fine have to dig up the last batch tomorrow.
I swear I have agriculture envy. If there wasn't such a thing, let me be the first. Do you do your own canning/jarring?
My GF has an Aunt/Uncle in Montana we hang out with every summer and their garden is awesome. They do their own food preservation too. Their pickles are so good. Every summer we go they have different stuff, and sometimes even better the same. They are so amazingly self reliant.. I am just in awe. Wish I had a "river" :D
All you need to grow is garlic!
So.. are potatoes a euphemism? I got potato seeds too.
I'm seriously fukn serious
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4825
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:36:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Lucky enough to live near the river so I have great soil and a good compost heap to supplement. Let's see I have Cilantro three varieties of Mint (one tastes like chocolate mintGǪ that **** on lamb is fantastic ) Dill Coriander The holy trinity of spices Rosemary, Sage, Thyme A bunch of other stuff that I am forgettingGǪ We are lucky and have a good garden. Though my pumpkins failed this year So taking the kids out to the patch next week Yes Spade the potatoes did fine have to dig up the last batch tomorrow. I swear I have agriculture envy. If there wasn't such a thing, let me be the first. Do you do your own canning/jarring? My GF has an Aunt/Uncle in Montana we hang out with every summer and their garden is awesome. They do their own food preservation too. Their pickles are so good. Every summer we go they have different stuff, and sometimes even better the same. They are so amazingly self reliant.. I am just in awe. Wish I had a "river" :D All you need to grow is garlic! So.. are potatoes a euphemism? I got potato seeds too. I have not tried garlic in my soilGǪ one of the folks at the farmers market has insanely good garlic, so it's not been a priority. We have done a bit of canning preserving in house, but my mother-in-law does crazy amounts of canningGǪ and she has fruit trees. Cherries, peaches, pears and apples. First run of pickles we did from all our own stuff (except the garlic) and they were so goodGǪ father-in-law stole three jars from us lol
KRRROOOOOOM
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2558
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:39:00 -
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mollerz wrote:There's even a player in there advocating scouts should only have sidearms. Are we regressing to that now?
Bet your bottom dollar that same dude will say sidearms shouldn't kill.
We should almost start a nerf heavy thread. Even if it's a parody if you could fine tune it so you sucked them into a debate it would be just desserts. I bet they don't even come in here. Id do it, but Iv already made so many that everyone just recognizes it as a troll thread even if its somewhat serious.
If someone else makes one, Ill give you some good advice on how to make it very very satirical.
TBQH, I feel that the the game is mostly balanced.
The best slayer suit is the Assault The best alpha strike suit is the scout The best 1v1 brawler is the Sentinel The best AV and suppression is the realm of the commando (though they could use some buffs) The best support remains the Logi, tho they could use some slight eWar tweaks, given their low HP
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
585
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:41:00 -
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Jeeze you guys have been busy this weekend. Took me like an hour of not reading a majority of the long posts just to catch up.
Anywho do we have any ideas how people are doing in the sidearm challenge?
Click it! I dare you...
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5843
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:44:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Jeeze you guys have been busy this weekend. Took me like an hour of not reading a majority of the long posts just to catch up.
Anywho do we have any ideas how people are doing in the sidearm challenge?
Musturd played for exactly one day. Bumped into him a couple times.
Stood back and watched him pimp slap the same heavy five or six times. Those damn militia knives.
You've gotta try the militia knives, Goose.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil. Capital Punishment.
2054
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Posted - 2014.10.13 06:40:00 -
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Hey guys can i get a favor? Can you check-out my thread called Hey! its about scouts and OP and basically telling every complainer to STFU. And the same guy your mentioning commented on it.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Hi guys several charge swipes later bye guys
Wannabe LeafinDaWind/Ghost
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Alder King
99
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:31:00 -
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Replied.
My recommendation: you stop talking in GD because you only make yourself and other scouts look bad.
Alder King? More like drag king.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
8585
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:16:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Anyone see problems with these values? * Scan Range: +3m Logi, +5m Assault, +5m Commando * Scan Profile: -5 dB Assault * Scan Precision: -5 dB Commando (equal to Assault) ReferenceWe've already discussed these Assault/Logi values (correct me if I'm wrong). I can think of no reason not to improve the Commando as well. Thoughts? The only problem I see with these numbers is that the Calmanndo still only have 1 low slot. Needs that second one to participate in EWAR like the others So ... +1 slot for all Commandos to keep others in balance with CA? Might this create other problems in Assault v Commando balance? Idea: To deter HP creep and prevent the proposed Commando from out-assaulting assault, we could apply the same HP stacking penalties we've considering for Scouts. Thoughts? PS: I've never run Commando. Trusting your judgment :-) Have you reviewed Cross's thread on Commando pass? Some interesting views in that one. have not made it through the whole thing myself. Assaults are out-HP tanking Commandos. . . The Medium Frames shouldn't have more HP than Heavy Frames. Even pre-Charlie a dual tanked Scout couldn't have higher Max HP than a dual-tanked Assault of the same race. Commando can't out-assault an Assault suit, because even pre-charlie an Assault suit was a better choice. And I haven't looked at that thread since I dumped my ideas off in it.
Will even harsher speed penalties on plates accomplish two things, slow down brick tanked scouts and make Commandos the same HP as brick tanked Aesaults yet naturally faster at the same eHP?
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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General John Ripper
25059
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:58:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:like poultry. there's no such thing as high quality bird. that whole type of meat is based off what it's seasoned with.
like Chinese duck. mmm, duck.
I am seriously craving authentic Chinese food right now. Only nasty Americanized fastfood/take out over around here. Does the general experience of it count towards quality? I always find it so much tastier when I hunt it, skin it, gut it, and cook it myself all from scratch. Hell even cooking for myself makes me feel like it tastes better than restaurants. I like to pretend I am some kind of chef lol but I am probably not as good as I think considering how biased I probably am to my own food. dude! you should get this book! It has a great section on hunting duck and how to prepare it based on the duck's diet. I will definitely check it out. payday tomorrow! :D
Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k
Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats
Sorry catmerc
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Immortal John Ripper
25059
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:58:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:like poultry. there's no such thing as high quality bird. that whole type of meat is based off what it's seasoned with.
like Chinese duck. mmm, duck.
I am seriously craving authentic Chinese food right now. Only nasty Americanized fastfood/take out over around here. Does the general experience of it count towards quality? I always find it so much tastier when I hunt it, skin it, gut it, and cook it myself all from scratch. Hell even cooking for myself makes me feel like it tastes better than restaurants. I like to pretend I am some kind of chef lol but I am probably not as good as I think considering how biased I probably am to my own food. dude! you should get this book! It has a great section on hunting duck and how to prepare it based on the duck's diet. I will definitely check it out. payday tomorrow! :D
Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k
Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats
Sorry catmerc
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3213
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:03:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Anyone see problems with these values? * Scan Range: +3m Logi, +5m Assault, +5m Commando * Scan Profile: -5 dB Assault * Scan Precision: -5 dB Commando (equal to Assault) ReferenceWe've already discussed these Assault/Logi values (correct me if I'm wrong). I can think of no reason not to improve the Commando as well. Thoughts? The only problem I see with these numbers is that the Calmanndo still only have 1 low slot. Needs that second one to participate in EWAR like the others So ... +1 slot for all Commandos to keep others in balance with CA? Might this create other problems in Assault v Commando balance? Idea: To deter HP creep and prevent the proposed Commando from out-assaulting assault, we could apply the same HP stacking penalties we've considering for Scouts. Thoughts? PS: I've never run Commando. Trusting your judgment :-) Have you reviewed Cross's thread on Commando pass? Some interesting views in that one. have not made it through the whole thing myself. Assaults are out-HP tanking Commandos. . . The Medium Frames shouldn't have more HP than Heavy Frames. Even pre-Charlie a dual tanked Scout couldn't have higher Max HP than a dual-tanked Assault of the same race. Commando can't out-assault an Assault suit, because even pre-charlie an Assault suit was a better choice. And I haven't looked at that thread since I dumped my ideas off in it.
Will even harsher speed penalties on plates accomplish two things, slow down brick tanked scouts and make Commandos the same HP as brick tanked Aesaults yet naturally faster at the same eHP?[/quote]
The problem with scouts is that they don't have to use modules to actually use their bonus, and not all brick scouts use armor, you can brick a scout with shields; and trust me ashields bricked scout is far scarier than a armor scout, a shield brick can strafe in front of you and repair their entire hp . Equally not all commandos use armor so this will just screw over people who don't abuse armor. There had to be a better way to fix these two without having to nerf a module that is not even the surface of the problem.
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
8585
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:48:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Everyone
I truly believe Haerr is on to something; the more I think about his suggestion, the more I like it:
If Cloak is Active, set Scan Range = 0.
I think this would make gameplay much more interesting for us. What do you guys think?
@ Cross Atu (or CPM1)
Before we put too many eggs into this basket, it'd be great to know if this can be accomplished via Hotfix. Coding is in place for Cloak to adjust a user's Scan Profile when active. Does existing code permit room to also adjust Scan Range and/or Scan Precision? If not, can existing logic be redirected to point to a metric other than Scan Profile, such as Scan Range or Scan Precision?
o7
Makes sense from lore perspective, and it is true, the activation affects one scanning attribute.
Very interesting proposal indeed.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5843
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:47:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Efficacy Bonuses Efficacy Bonuses made more sense prior to EWAR normalization, and even then they were a shoehorn (originally pointed out by Aeon). There are cleaner and less restrictive ways to address high-HP Scouts.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5843
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote: Will even harsher speed penalties on plates accomplish two things, slow down brick tanked scouts and make Commandos the same HP as brick tanked Aesaults yet naturally faster at the same eHP?
Heavies previously indicated that they wouldn't be able to hop over curbs if we slowed them down further. Apart from this, I *personally like the idea of harsher speed penalties on plates.
* Can't speak for the others on this; there's been a distinct lack of consensus. What are your thoughts, Appia?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5847
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Everyone
I truly believe Haerr is on to something; the more I think about his suggestion, the more I like it:
If Cloak is Active, set Scan Range = 0.
I think this would make gameplay much more interesting for us. What do you guys think?
@ Cross Atu (or CPM1)
Before we put too many eggs into this basket, it'd be great to know if this can be accomplished via Hotfix. Coding is in place for Cloak to adjust a user's Scan Profile when active. Does existing code permit room to also adjust Scan Range and/or Scan Precision? If not, can existing logic be redirected to point to a metric other than Scan Profile, such as Scan Range or Scan Precision?
o7 Makes sense from lore perspective, and it is true, the activation affects one scanning attribute. Very interesting proposal indeed.
Standing Concerns:
* Diminishes value of hacking-while-cloaked * Makes the scout's job of clearing Uplinks more difficult
Potential Remedies (also Haerr's idea ):
* Set Scan Precision = 99 dB when cloaked (instead of Scan Range = 0m) * Set EQ Scan Profile = 99 dB
Note:
If the cloak:active method can only access one scan variable, we may need to tweak Profile Damps to maintain current hunter/hunted interplay at the low-end of the dB spectrum ... examples:
15 dB - GA Logi + Focused (vs) max-damped CA/MN/AM Scout 18 dB - Max-Precision AM Scout (vs) 2x damped MN/AM Scout
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2562
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:37:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote: Will even harsher speed penalties on plates accomplish two things, slow down brick tanked scouts and make Commandos the same HP as brick tanked Aesaults yet naturally faster at the same eHP?
Heavies previously indicated that they wouldn't be able to hop over curbs if we slowed them down further. Apart from this, I *personally like the idea. * Can't speak for the others on this; there's been a distinct lack of consensus. What are your thoughts, Appia? I like it, I wish there was a way to say that if a plate was on a heavy frame, it gave lesser penalties, normal on assault, and more on scout.
Same for the shields, I feel.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2562
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Everyone
I truly believe Haerr is on to something; the more I think about his suggestion, the more I like it:
If Cloak is Active, set Scan Range = 0.
I think this would make gameplay much more interesting for us. What do you guys think?
@ Cross Atu (or CPM1)
Before we put too many eggs into this basket, it'd be great to know if this can be accomplished via Hotfix. Coding is in place for Cloak to adjust a user's Scan Profile when active. Does existing code permit room to also adjust Scan Range and/or Scan Precision? If not, can existing logic be redirected to point to a metric other than Scan Profile, such as Scan Range or Scan Precision?
o7 Makes sense from lore perspective, and it is true, the activation affects one scanning attribute. Very interesting proposal indeed. Standing Concerns: * Diminishes value of hacking-while-cloaked * Makes the scout's job of clearing Uplinks more difficult Potential Remedies (also Haerr's idea ): * Set Scan Precision = 99 dB when cloaked (instead of Scan Range = 0m) * Set EQ Scan Profile = 99 dB
Note: If the cloak:active method can only access one scan variable, we may need to tweak Profile Damps to maintain current hunter/hunted interplay at the low-end of the dB spectrum ... examples: 15 dB - GA Logi + Focused (vs) max-damped CA/MN/AM Scout 18 dB - Max-Precision AM Scout (vs) 2x damped MN/AM Scout Cloaking is compromised as is...I don't see a reason to make it any worse TBH. If something like this happened, id like to actually be invisible, and to get a better dampening bonus.
Then Id be all for it.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5848
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:42:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Cloaking is compromised as is...I don't see a reason to make it any worse TBH. If something like this happened, id like to actually be invisible, and to get a better dampening bonus.
Then Id be all for it.
If we moved forward with Haerr's idea, we wouldn't be able to affect Profile and simultaneously affect another Scan Metric. Meaning "better dampening bonus" would be off the table.
We might be able to work around that by adjusting over variables.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5848
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:01:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Appia Nappia wrote: And messing with the Active scanner values **** over medium frames. If you decrease the proto scanner below 28 then there is no reason for a medium frame to use profile dampeners. . . and thanks to the gal logi precision bonus they can't participate regardless of how useful/OP or underperforming the EQ is.
If we buffed 28 dB Active Scanner to 25 dB, we'd have to bump Med Profile down by 5 to maintain status quo (2 damps to beat proto scans). No real problem, in my opinion; we'd already discussed doing this for Assault. Folks are demanding that we restructure EWAR on the grounds that they can't scan undampened scouts. This approach satisfies the demand without mucking with EWAR. I think it a reasonable (and reasonably safe) compromise.
Edit: We'd have to bump MedFrame Profile down by 6 (instead of 5) to maintain existing CA/MN Scout interplay (24 dB).
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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hfderrtgvcd
779
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Posted - 2014.10.13 15:13:00 -
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Question to all you pc vets. On what maps is it faster to run to the city instead of taking a dropship?
On a more related note, I'm all for greater penalties on plates as long as ferros and reactives aren't touched. Maybe shield extenders could also get their current penalty replaced with one to scan profile?
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5849
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Posted - 2014.10.13 15:17:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Maybe shield extenders could also get their current penalty replaced with one to scan profile?
Would disproportionately impact MN/CA Scouts. Movement penalty is one thing. Having your position revealed to entire enemy squads is another.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2563
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:52:00 -
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I think instead of having all these huge changes, we could just go with something like what I said in my post [link here]. It makes a lot more sense, reduces binary nature, and allows med frames to participate much more in eWAR.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175921
Also, please normalize cloaking dampening at 10%. It makes balance a lot easier, as the only scout capable of fitting a proto cloak is a proto scout, and it has to be on for the dampening to apply, but two precisions can fit easily on any scout and are on 24/7. If we balance around a 10% dampening cloak, all scouts should have access to a 10% dampening cloak
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4088
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:04:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like it, I wish there was a way to say that if a plate was on a heavy frame, it gave lesser penalties, normal on assault, and more on scout.
Same for the shields, I feel.
Oh, better idea. Let's not do that.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2563
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:11:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I like it, I wish there was a way to say that if a plate was on a heavy frame, it gave lesser penalties, normal on assault, and more on scout.
Same for the shields, I feel.
Oh, better idea. Let's not do that. Why not?
I do see that the penalties do affect scouts more (=% on ># =>penalty), but I do think that that'll satisfy the bloodthirsty "nerf whatever killed me" cries.
And lets be honest for a second. If you are running plates with more than a 1% speed penalty on a scout, you're kinda fucking yourself over.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil. Capital Punishment.
2055
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:32:00 -
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Hey guys. I got hacking to three! I put two ADV hacking mods on a basic m-1, two SMGs, one breach one regular, R-9 and stable links. I used it in a Dom, got seventeen hundred WPs, got to the end of the match, got fatal error. -_-
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Hi guys several charge swipes later bye guys
Wannabe LeafinDaWind/Ghost
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