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Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 489	Posted - 2013.09.25 05:34:00 - [2131] - Quote This is the greatest thread ever.... it makes being a scout so much more bearable. I have 3 alternate characters, only 1 of which I occasionally use.... he's a Logi about 300k sp away from getting the proto Gallente logi suit. I've been playing him tonight since I capped out. Every game he has been using a militia minmitar light frame. What can I say.... popping people in the noggin' with the pistol is so dope! Maybe I should just bail out and use that 900k SP saved to spec into a Minja scout with him so I can taste those waters..... so tempting!
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 306	Posted - 2013.09.25 05:42:00 - [2132] - Quote Curse of the scout. Every minnie wants to be a gallente. Every Gallente wants to be a minnie. Just to satisfy their own curiosity
IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 77	Posted - 2013.09.25 06:58:00 - [2133] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I recently put some SP into the scan range level 3 skill and have one fit with two enhanced range extenders. Didn't seem to help me. But - I need to play with those some more too. And they may just not suit my style, but I won't know until I use them all a lot more, and try to understand how I should change tactics and approach based on how I'm fitted. Need get level three precision then you'll notice it working. Why's that? Precision helps with pinpointing the red dots right? At this point, I'm just looking for red dots and how many, and how close together they are. Not seeing much how that would help?
IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 77	Posted - 2013.09.25 06:59:00 - [2134] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Although...I am only using the basic knives. Found the Problem. Basic knives SUCK. Capital S-U-C-K. Really. ADV is the way to go. With basic knives, you will almost ALWAYS have to land a fully charged dual swipe to kill Basic-ADV suits. ADV knives give you almost 2x the damage, and Charge over 25% faster. They are cheap to get as well. DO IT. I can't fit anything else right now - need to work more on core skills and even then...
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:22:00 - [2135] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Curse of the scout. Every minnie wants to be a gallente. Every Gallente wants to be a minnie. Just to satisfy their own curiosity when you get enough SP why not both.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1277	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:26:00 - [2136] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Why's that? Precision helps with pinpointing the red dots right? At this point, I'm just looking for red dots and how many, and how close together they are. Not seeing much how that would help? A point or two in Precision will enable you to pickup undampened Light-Frames. I can think of no reason to skill Precision any higher.
voidfaction Void of Faction 83	Posted - 2013.09.25 14:16:00 - [2137] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Why's that? Precision helps with pinpointing the red dots right? At this point, I'm just looking for red dots and how many, and how close together they are. Not seeing much how that would help? A point or two in Precision will enable you to pickup undampened Light-Frames. I can think of no reason to skill Precision any higher. unless you plan to use precision enhancers there is no reason to skill precision. without using mods its useless and as a scout in this aim assisted AR game you need hp more then precision mods. would have been nice before aim assist and armor mod buff.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 175	Posted - 2013.09.25 14:22:00 - [2138] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: So with Ishukone Nova Knives you get 200 damage with Minmatar scout level 5 and proficiency Level 5 you get 287.5 damage. That is just swiping so when fully charge i believe it doubles or triples the damage. Also the Advance only does 150.00 damage without proficiency. So, to give backing to my prior statements about not needing suit bonuses: ADV give 150 per swipe. Two swipes. Charged. Gives 600 damage, when you're taking out a hacker. Headshot gives even more. If he's somehow not dead, another quick tap gives 300more. or charged, gives another 600. So, as I said, you dont need the minmatar knife bonus for assassination. Thanks you just made me realize I can run the advanced cheap knives with all my bonuses an still have 210 damage a blade, an here I been wasting isk on the proto............FACEPALM See I disagree. You cant really take out hardly any proto suits with a single charge. Even some scouts have over 600hp. Also Im not sure if knives have resists to shields vs armor. Handily I have actually taken out two people with one charge. Granted they have to be pretty close to each other, but having that bonus is really helpful to tipping the scales from 2 hits to 1. With the crappy hit detection and the high chance of missing, the need for killing with a single swipe is paramount. Think about it this way, the difference between a duvolle and std ar is a single bullet on most suits. It makes a huge difference though.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 14:31:00 - [2139] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Why's that? Precision helps with pinpointing the red dots right? At this point, I'm just looking for red dots and how many, and how close together they are. Not seeing much how that would help? A point or two in Precision will enable you to pickup undampened Light-Frames. I can think of no reason to skill Precision any higher. unless you plan to use precision enhancers there is no reason to skill precision. without using mods its useless and as a scout in this aim assisted AR game you need hp more then precision mods. would have been nice before aim assist and armor mod buff. I do just fine with this Gallente Advance setup. Scout G/I Series M209 A-SMG GN-Specialist Flaylock pistol Enhance Shield extender Advances precision enhancer Enhance Dampener Enhance range amplifier An Advance Active scanner This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!!
DISGRUNTLEDev Ancient Exiles 162	Posted - 2013.09.25 14:57:00 - [2140] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!! See, comments like these are really getting on my nerves. What the hell is scouting now? Hiding from active scanners. What else? Oh, right. Anything else is better done by other suits. I wish you guys would make a laundry list of things that I'm supposed to do as a scout, so that I can capture video to show that IT ISN"T POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT GAME STATE to be any good at those things.

pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 254	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:06:00 - [2141] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!! See, comments like these are really getting on my nerves. What the hell is scouting now? Hiding from active scanners. What else? Oh, right. Anything else is better done by other suits. I wish you guys would make a laundry list of things that I'm supposed to do as a scout, so that I can capture video to show that IT ISN"T POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT GAME STATE to be any good at those things. Distraction, sabotage, and target practice.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 254	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:11:00 - [2142] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I recently put some SP into the scan range level 3 skill and have one fit with two enhanced range extenders. Didn't seem to help me. But - I need to play with those some more too. And they may just not suit my style, but I won't know until I use them all a lot more, and try to understand how I should change tactics and approach based on how I'm fitted. Need get level three precision then you'll notice it working. Why's that? Precision helps with pinpointing the red dots right? At this point, I'm just looking for red dots and how many, and how close together they are. Not seeing much how that would help? In the multi-level maps precision lets you know when to decend on enemies. Also useful for doorway/corner defense and uplink/CRU camping even when invisible. Wallrun more often in hot areas. Not liking the rounded design of gallente facility corners... By the end of today I should have all ewar skills maxed. Hoping for some unpublished perk, but I also just want to be done with it!
Lightning Bolt2 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 250	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:17:00 - [2143] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!! See, comments like these are really getting on my nerves. What the hell is scouting now? Hiding from active scanners. What else? Oh, right. Anything else is better done by other suits. I wish you guys would make a laundry list of things that I'm supposed to do as a scout, so that I can capture video to show that IT ISN"T POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT GAME STATE to be any good at those things. Distraction, sabotage, and target practice. distraction? check sabotage... not sure about you guys, but check target practice? no way those aim assisted ARs do the tracking for them and fyi, I keep aim assist off for hope when AA (if) gets nerfed I'll have an advantage at aiming.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:26:00 - [2144] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!! See, comments like these are really getting on my nerves. What the hell is scouting now? Hiding from active scanners. What else? Oh, right. Anything else is better done by other suits. I wish you guys would make a laundry list of things that I'm supposed to do as a scout, so that I can capture video to show that IT ISN"T POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT GAME STATE to be any good at those things. Took this off of dictionary.com a person who observes and reports on the techniques, players, etc., of opposing teams. verb (used without object) 9. to act as a scout; reconnoiter. 10. to make a search; hunt. Base on this we really should be up on high ground Sniping and relaying information to our ASSAULT forces where the enemy is coming from. Took this off of dictinary.com For being Stealthy the act or characteristic of moving with extreme care and quietness, esp so as to avoid detection This is what you should be doing and if you can't do this that means you should be a Assault. Being silent and unseen is not going to be easy to accomplish it requires a lot SP and practice, but using the suit as not intended will equal in failure and/or unsatisfactory results.
DISGRUNTLEDev Ancient Exiles 164	Posted - 2013.09.25 15:55:00 - [2145] - Quote But scouting is pointless if everyone can just scan. Why take an extra person when you can just fit a piece of cheap equipment? And I don't know about you, but even if I get the drop on a Cal Logi with >1000 eHp, first shot is a head shot, I still am not sure I'm going to win that fight. Hell, heavies are back, because they can turn and kill you in the time it takes to get two shotgun shells or 2 NK swings off. Should I just run around, hiding and scanning? Cause I'm not using a sniper rifle.
Idye Lotz xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers 94	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:14:00 - [2146] - Quote Hey guys I'm giving full time scouting a break going to vary my roles.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:53:00 - [2147] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: But scouting is pointless if everyone can just scan. Why take an extra person when you can just fit a piece of cheap equipment? And I don't know about you, but even if I get the drop on a Cal Logi with >1000 eHp, first shot is a head shot, I still am not sure I'm going to win that fight. Hell, heavies are back, because they can turn and kill you in the time it takes to get two shotgun shells or 2 NK swings off. Should I just run around, hiding and scanning? Cause I'm not using a sniper rifle. Flux all day!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 325	Posted - 2013.09.25 17:01:00 - [2148] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: This only work IF YOU PLAY AS THE CLASS EXTENDED SCOUTING !!!!! See, comments like these are really getting on my nerves. What the hell is scouting now? Hiding from active scanners. What else? Oh, right. Anything else is better done by other suits. I wish you guys would make a laundry list of things that I'm supposed to do as a scout, so that I can capture video to show that IT ISN"T POSSIBLE IN THE CURRENT GAME STATE to be any good at those things. Distraction, sabotage, and target practice. distraction? check sabotage... not sure about you guys, but check target practice? no way those aim assisted ARs do the tracking for them and fyi, I keep aim assist off for hope when AA (if) gets nerfed I'll have an advantage at aiming. [EDIT] and also AA is so strong when I move with my knives and suddenly turn into a wall its so strong! [EDIT] also, medium frames can do distraction and sabotage better or just as good. have not used AA since the first day of 1.4 but what I have done is dropped my sensitivity from 100/100 to 30/30 for AR and ive done well with that most kills with 30/30 38-6 but its way too slow for shotgun & KN
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 183	Posted - 2013.09.25 18:30:00 - [2149] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: But scouting is pointless if everyone can just scan. Why take an extra person when you can just fit a piece of cheap equipment? "Having a designated medic type role is pointless if everyone can just equip an injector. Why take an extra person when you can just fit a piece of cheap equipment?" PS: Quote: And I don't know about you, but even if I get the drop on a Cal Logi with >1000 eHp, first shot is a head shot, I still am not sure I'm going to win that fight. Hell, heavies are back, because they can turn and kill you in the time it takes to get two shotgun shells or 2 NK swings off. "Controller: you're using it wrong" How can you NOT be able to do this? Sounds like you're just too chicken to try it. Its freakin easy. You dont even have to charge the second one, so it comes in before the enemy even has the time to register "what, I got hit by something?" That's an immediate extra 300 followup attack. Maybe your problem is evidenced by the fact you even mention shotguns in here. Forget about the shotgun when you have an open back to you. Knife >>> shotgun. Besides which, in pub battles, i've never seem a logi with more than 1000 hp. lots of 800s, sure.
J0LLY R0G3R A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 123	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:14:00 - [2150] - Quote Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin.

pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 254	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:26:00 - [2151] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin. What is the gallente channel?
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:30:00 - [2152] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin. What is the gallente channel? According to this thread: Gallente hydra Turalyon
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1284	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:19:00 - [2153] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin. ^ This. Thinking exactly the same thing :-) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1332992#post1332992
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1532	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:20:00 - [2154] - Quote Got scanned for the first time today since getting my gal scout lvl 4/dampening lvl 1. That's the first time I've seen someone using a proto scanner so far. I just didn't think they were worth people's CPU/PG but apparently some people can fit them (proto gal logis I expect). That said I was already down at the time and still went on to go 11/4 that ambush, so it was alright in the end. In other news: 2 weeks til proto gal but I really don't see myself ever using it unless D2D manage to double our regular player counts and get into PC.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1533	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:29:00 - [2155] - Quote In more other news - I'm having a great time lately flanking large groups and picking them all off one by one as they focus on my team to their front and no one even turns around because I'm not appearing on their radars and unless they aim directly at me, I don't even get a blue chevron. I think my KDs actually gone up by 0.01 or 0.02 in the last couple of weeks because of this. Still, the moment someone does look at me, I'm dead. There's no running away these days, especially with lack of speed and lagging hit boxes. Incidentally, has CCP ever made a comment about the laggy hitbox situation?
IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 81	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:53:00 - [2156] - Quote Idye Lotz wrote: Hey guys I'm giving up full time scouting a break going to vary my roles. Hey Idye Have fun, come back now you hear! ;-)
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2034	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:58:00 - [2157] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin. ^ This. Thinking exactly the same thing :-) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1332992#post1332992 Count me in. I want some g.k0s because I should be able to get them at least by the end of october I will bring the Duvolles and CreoDrons. Yay proficiency 3!
IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 81	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:00:00 - [2158] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Faction warfare event, I don't think many if any of my corp plays for gallente. So I'm gonna be hitting up the scouts united channel like crazy. Just sayin. ^ This. Thinking exactly the same thing :-) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1332992#post1332992 Count me in. I want some g.k0s because I should be able to get them at least by the end of october I will bring the Duvolles and CreoDrons. Yay proficiency 3! Ohh right so as scouts (even Minnies like me) I guess the Gallente rewards are suitable huh. Gallente: Tier I GÇô 100 x CreoDron Active Scanner Tier II GÇô 50 x CreoDron Shotgun Tier III GÇô 25 x Scout gk.0 Dropsuit Mmmm I want me some of those shotties.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1437	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:00:00 - [2159] - Quote Sadly as much as I want those gk.0 drop suits.... I'm going to have to play for my beloved amarr....
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2034	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:07:00 - [2160] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Sadly as much as I want those gk.0 drop suits.... I'm going to have to play for my beloved amarr.... Think about what you are doing Proto AScR - Not many scouts have those and I doubt you do to be honest Proto Uplinks - Meh Proto Logi - Need I say anymore?



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