Edit:
And the Amarr scout getting a 25% bonus to SP damage at lvl 5 might be a bit too much.

Precision mods are stupid not worth it since we have poo base scanning range. And melee mods are equally worthless considering we have the lowest base melee. Being a minmatar in EVE is actually pretty good, we have the better PVP ships or so I heard.
In Dust though, the minmatar scout is pretty bad. It's racial bonuses are just gimmicks. And it suffers more from not having that extra slot than the gallente.

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...So that's two people saying at least one of the minmatar scout's racial bonuses are gimmicks. One of the suit's bonuses is the same as the Gallente - so no comparison.
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To say that Nova Knife / Melee bonus is a gimmick compared to the Gallente specialisation of increased scan range? Not sure the Gallente one is particularly good with the base of 10m, as plenty of us are pointing out. So I'm not really understanding your argument.

To say that Nova Knife / Melee bonus is a gimmick compared to the Gallente specialisation of increased scan range? Not sure the Gallente one is particularly good with the base of 10m, as plenty of us are pointing out. So I'm not really understanding your argument.

I only run the ADV knives. Disclaimer: I only run in pub matches.
That being said: I do not remember a time I have sneaked up behind some enemy hacking something, then applied a fully charged knife to the back, and they survived the first blow. Particularly if you aim for the head!
Even if they did, I'm pretty sure another quick tap on R1 finished them off.

That is what you use knives for, primarily. So a little damage bonus, really doesnt matter. ADV knives already give you the damage you need, without bonus.

It gives Gallente Scout something to use tactically.

We shouldn't have to fill our low slots to have a meaningful Scan Radius. This reduces our combat potential.

1) CCP nerfed our Scan Radius to 10 meters, to encourage use of Active Scanners
2) CCP disabled Squad Sight, to encourage use of Active Scanners
3) CCP is adding WP for scan-assists, to encourage use of Active Scanners

Now that Active Scanners are so overtly encouraged, can we Scouts have our Base Scan Radius back?
Please?

I recently put some SP into the scan range level 3 skill and have one fit with two enhanced range extenders. Didn't seem to help me. But - I need to play with those some more too. And they may just not suit my style, but I won't know until I use them all a lot more, and try to understand how I should change tactics and approach based on how I'm fitted.

I think the minmatar bonus is nice

you get the low profile

plus you get 2 advantages to cqc 1 being melee and 2 being NK

so really all in all your getting 3 bonuses

I'm not reading 104 pages to find out whats going on here...

Just wanted to say Shotty and Chilled destroyed us today. Damn near sigle handedly.
Good god those two were awesome together. I hate you both. :p jk

gg guys. Inspiration and rage was had. Keep up the good work!
And stay the hell away from me! :p

Sorry for the interruption...

Although...I am only using the basic knives.

Just doing the best with what we have.

And you're doing damn good with it.

As it stands now, the current UI is a bit short sighted in all the things it can and doesnGÇÖt feed you. Far to few people understand fully how stealth works on the tactical network and how to best avoid detection and making useful tactical decisions on it. This is something that is being addressed now to better the player in understanding how the battlefield and tacnet works. This is also opportunity to give the Scout/Light and recon minded players a buff and purpose on the field in providing eyes on everything.

For those that didnt see the cpm notes

So with Ishukone Nova Knives you get 200 damage with Minmatar scout level 5 and proficiency Level 5 you get 287.5 damage. That is just swiping so when fully charge i believe it doubles or triples the damage. Also the Advance only does 150.00 damage without proficiency.

Ugh. Gallente frames can turn deadly at high SP.

Messing around with the fitting tool again.

I created a Gallente scout with 124 Shields, 311 armor, and about 9 armor rep a second.

Gave him a K5 Specialist and a GN-20 Flaylock. He also sprints at 9.0 m/s. Still fast. And a LOT tougher.

He can rep his armor in 35 seconds. FROM 0. With a 120 Shield buffer, you can also withstand some damage while repping.

Here is the specs:

1x Enhanced Shield
1x Complex Reactive
1x Complex Repper
1x Complex Ferroscale
1x Complex Kincat

It also has the F/45 Remote's too. Lotsa fun.

Makes my Minja sad. I can't wait till they fix my knives :(

So, to give backing to my prior statements about not needing suit bonuses:

ADV give 150 *per swipe*.
Two swipes.
Charged.
Gives 600 damage, when you're taking out a hacker.
Headshot gives even more.

If he's somehow not dead, another quick tap gives 300more. or charged, gives another 600.

So, as I said, you dont need the minmatar knife bonus for assassination.

See if you can fit the complex plate if you dump the fero, youll run at 8:55 an have well over 400 armor an close to 600+ total HP an you could even duplicate the fit an swap the red for a green an run forever an jump over everything an even tho it might be slower it will have crazy jumping attacks an take more shots

Got in a match against shotty and chilled pill. It was tough. I felt like giving up due to our lame team, but it was an honor being your enemy. I believe you killed me twice. 1 with a core locus while I was hacking with three scouts and the other one was a SG blast. It was a good game. One of these days I will knife you on the back....maybe in 1.5

The Core Locus was cheap, but there were so many of you on that Objective :P

For this match I ran the CRG, M209 SMG, Core Locus, and A-19 Scanner
Modules were 1 Cmp Shield, 2 Enh Plates, 1 Enh Card Reg, 1 Cmp Arm Rep

^ Rest assured I lost Isk in "paying to win" ... you guys put up a good fight.

Great shooting against you too, Niuvo. Looking forward to next time.
When the time comes, I'll run advanced gear. Promise.
And maybe by then you Ninja's will have a lunge mechanic :-)

- Shotty