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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
4160
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:43:00 -
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duh, I was making my own minja fit on protofits, and got them confused. Yes, I see the correct one only needs one PG. Thanks.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:45:00 -
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In regards to your fitting Rattati, i (though Im sure many others would feel the same) would like to be able to replace the codebreaker with a kin cat for a more combat oriented fit, and would love PG to work as such. Also, the 1 pg over is only with CR fitting op 5, so with maxed cores you'd be 3 over
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3324
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:46:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:In regards to your fitting Rattati, i (though Im sure many others would feel the same) would like to be able to replace the codebreaker with a kin cat for a more combat oriented fit, and would love PG to work as such. Also, the 1 pg over is only with CR fitting op 5, so with maxed cores you'd be 3 over Is it? I thought I made sure to set that to 0
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
Empress of Alts
My Theme Song
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:48:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:In regards to your fitting Rattati, i (though Im sure many others would feel the same) would like to be able to replace the codebreaker with a kin cat for a more combat oriented fit, and would love PG to work as such. Also, the 1 pg over is only with CR fitting op 5, so with maxed cores you'd be 3 over Is it? I thought I made sure to set that to 0 I derped, and edited
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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mollerz
3818
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:51:00 -
[17435] - Quote
Well! Started getting likes from Monk! Poor guy is like 40 pages behind.
Hi monk!
Also, all these n00bscouts reminded me.. Where the hell has quilly been?
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better.
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.13 23:54:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Well! Started getting likes from Monk! Poor guy is like 40 pages behind.
Hi monk!
Also, all these n00bscouts reminded me.. Where the hell has quilly been?
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better. And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:01:00 -
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Something like this
I think that this would be great if we lowered kin cat PG and buffed min scout PG by just a hair
IDK what you think, but IMO that should fit. Its perfect for a quick running city warfare suit
Lets the minja get in, drop a link for the fatties, knife the hacker at Bravo, drop an RE, hack, and get away as soon as he sees the red dots converging on him, dropping a flux on their uplinks as he goes. THAT is what a true minja fit would be like IMO, perhaps replacing the shield with a codebreaker
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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mollerz
3819
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:05:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better.
And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team
I feel like hacking lv 5 affords you plenty of time to hack given a little bit of strategic planning ahead. Plus... Sometimes it's better to get there first, set up shop, and kill the slow scouts. Or even better, the douche lav heavies
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:06:00 -
[17439] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better.
And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team I feel like hacking lv 5 affords you plenty of time to hack given a little bit of strategic planning ahead. Plus... Sometimes it's better to get there first, set up shop, and kill the slow scouts. Or even better, the douche lav heavies Thats what my above fit is for
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3325
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:25:00 -
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Rawrrr! Running around in my M-I suits. I keep trying to change from 1 weapon to another but I hit the R1 too soon so it swaps back. ****! I keep end up trying to shoot people with nova knives
Or my Assault is using the CR and SMG and I end up feathering R1 for the SMG
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
Empress of Alts
My Theme Song
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1633
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:31:00 -
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I would love to be able to fit two damps and a kin cat in low, and two code-breakers and a shield module in high. Chuck on a clack, REs and proto NK and that's a winning fit. I don't care if I have to fit a standard CR to make it work.
<300 EHP: check Invisible to scans: check 4 second hacks: check Multiple sources of ~1500 HP damage: check and check
Knowledge is power
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3914
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:33:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Rawrrr! Running around in my M-I suits. I keep trying to change from 1 weapon to another but I hit the R1 too soon so it swaps back. ****! I keep end up trying to shoot people with nova knives Or my Assault is using the CR and SMG and I end up feathering R1 for the SMG Couple stories to make you feel a bit better
Sneak up on Heavy Ready to knife the sucker BlamGǪ oops killed myself with pointblank shot from my Core FlaylockGǪ Heavy is just fine
Try to detonate RE Nothing **** two guys standing on it hacking the CRU why you no detonate Beep Beep Beep
Llast is standing there cloaking and uncloaking like a noobGǪ WTF
Toss two RE into LAV while Red is hacking Objective Oh here he comes better cloak and GTFO Beep BOOM
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
3821
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:37:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:mollerz wrote:
Also, second PG focusing on kin cats as well. Code breakers are nice and all, but kin cats are better.
And kin cats are a ninja thing...one of our most important roles in PC is running links inside the city ASAP or reaching home point and hacking it faster than the other team I feel like hacking lv 5 affords you plenty of time to hack given a little bit of strategic planning ahead. Plus... Sometimes it's better to get there first, set up shop, and kill the slow scouts. Or even better, the douche lav heavies Thats what my above fit is for
I've been rolling around with this to nice effect with everything as is- Wrathpia
But I recently changed up to Wrathpia v.2
The jury is out on that new version tho. I might miss the extra speed more than appreciate the extra dampening.
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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mollerz
3822
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:39:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Rawrrr! Running around in my M-I suits. I keep trying to change from 1 weapon to another but I hit the R1 too soon so it swaps back. ****! I keep end up trying to shoot people with nova knives Or my Assault is using the CR and SMG and I end up feathering R1 for the SMG Couple stories to make you feel a bit better Sneak up on Heavy Ready to knife the sucker BlamGǪ oops killed myself with pointblank shot from my Core FlaylockGǪ Heavy is just fine Try to detonate RE Nothing **** two guys standing on it hacking the CRU why you no detonate Beep Beep Beep Llast is standing there cloaking and uncloaking like a noobGǪ WTF Toss two RE into LAV while Red is hacking Objective Oh here he comes better cloak and GTFO Beep BOOM
Is it me or has there been ashit ton of lag? I was having trouble decloaking and switching. Plus I was jumping around everywhere.
btw llast- I am back in town. Just played a match. Ugly an dI will be on full force around 10ish PDT.. but I can jump on a bit earlier.
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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mollerz
3822
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:43:00 -
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Jus tto be clear, knives aren't being touched for charlie?
I had a couple more thoughts about knives.. and this goes a long way back as far as requests-
You have a small target dot when you have your knives out... When you aim this dot at vehicles and whatnot, you do not get any intel as you would with a gun. Can this be changed to behave like firearm targets?
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2678
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Posted - 2014.07.14 00:58:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Jus tto be clear, knives aren't being touched for charlie?
I had a couple more thoughts about knives.. and this particular one goes a long way back as far as requests-
You have a small target dot when you have your knives out... When you aim this dot at vehicles and whatnot, you do not get any intel as you would with a gun. Can this be changed to behave like firearm targets? Logibro closed the old NK feedback thread and put up another: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168016&find=unread
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1635
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:00:00 -
[17447] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Jus tto be clear, knives aren't being touched for charlie?
I had a couple more thoughts about knives.. and this particular one goes a long way back as far as requests-
You have a small target dot when you have your knives out... When you aim this dot at vehicles and whatnot, you do not get any intel as you would with a gun. Can this be changed to behave like firearm targets? All here Mollerz.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168016&find=unread
Knifers, please make sure to share your thoughts. Looks pretty good so far.
CCP Logibro wrote:So, it's that time again. I'll be looking at Nova Knives in Hotfix Charlie, and am hoping to make some improvements for them. Here's the preliminary list of changes.
First off, I'll be trialling an increase from 2m range to 2.5m. This one isn't going in 100%, I'm hopefully going to get some testing time stabbing people around the office next week to see how it feels, might give a smaller increase if it's too much.
I'll also be testing aim adhesion next week to help with tracking targets at close range.
I'll look at adding a fitting optimisation skill. Like other fitting optimisation skills, this will decrease Nova Knife PG requirements by 5% per level, and will be a 6x skill. It will require Nova Knife Proficiency 4 to train. The skillbook will cost 774,000ISK.
Finally, I'll be decreasing charge time on standard knives to 1.2 seconds, and increasing their damage by 10 to 100 to bring them in line with the other knives.
Just to cut any discussion off at the pass, charging knives while sprinting is off the table. It's not going to happen, so please don't bring it up in this thread.
If you see any issues with any of these changes, please discuss them in this thread.
Knowledge is power
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mollerz
3824
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:02:00 -
[17448] - Quote
woah.. thanks guys. I had no idea. I'm reading now..
You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
433
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:50:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:
really? so how many could you kill with 1000 hp and no regen, hives, or logi support?
i can kill +20 on ~ 450 eHP and ~85 hp/s shield regen on my cal assault. 1v1? im at a disadvantage. but id kill more than you could with 5000 hp and no reps or regen lol
Look if you want to swing your e-peen around go to the war room. No one is impressed by you here. If you wish to talk shop hang out, be reasonable, and maybe people will value your opinion. For the record. Appia would more than likely destroy you.
Taken out of context in response to someone else. I've unfortunately never had the pleasure of meeting Appia in a match. In fact I've rarely see anyone from the forums in matches.
My only point was that I've never seen a max hp armor tanker without support get a respectable kdr. They just can't without support, which is what I thought he was saying was all that was necessary for a slayer. I disagreed |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
433
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:52:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:shaman oga wrote: You should apologize ...
That'd be civil, but it's pretty much guaranteed not to happen. Brawls are the norm here; words are seldom minced and punches seldom pulled. If a regular thinks you're wrong, he'll call you out. If you don't take kindly to being called out, try harder to not be wrong :) The point is that i'm obviously only here because of the blue tag, but i simply gave my feedback, like i do in many other threads. I play most of time as scout, i use EW and of course i'm interested in what will be the evolution of my role, all the community should be involved in this discussion. I've posted here and i've been personally attacked for no reason and i can't bear it.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10905
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Posted - 2014.07.14 01:58:00 -
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Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8766
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:duh, I was making my own minja fit on protofits, and got them confused. Yes, I see the correct one only needs one PG. Thanks. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears that fit isn't even factoring in any skills in the combat rifle fitting optimization which could squeeze out that final PG to make the fit valid? I know that's a lot of SP, but for a fully optimized fit that should be a bit of a requirement, no?
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
740
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:07:00 -
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Monks likes are not dissimilar to the snapping of twigs behind you, forewarning the approach of a predator XD
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1638
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips? In general...forget about tank, be prepared to die a lot.
As a Gal, make sure you're max damped. Fit at least 1 kin cat. Put sidearm damage mods in your highs.
I'd also suggest swapping the ScP for a SMG as your target should be in shields if you maange to get a hit in with the knives, and the SMG if more forgiving in close quarters. But what ever works for you
Knowledge is power
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10906
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:12:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips? In general...forget about tank, be prepared to die a lot. As a Gal, make sure you're max damped. Fit at least 1 kin cat. Put sidearm damage mods in your highs. I'd also suggest swapping the ScP for a SMG as your target should be in shields if you maange to get a hit in with the knives, and the SMG if more forgiving in close quarters. But what ever works for you My fit currently: 1xComplex Precision 1xComplex Shield Extender (FOR SHAME)
2x Complex dampeners 1xComplex Kinetic Catalyzer 1xComplex Cardiac Regulator
Ishukone Cloak Boundless RE's
Ishukone Nova Knives Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol
I am using the SCP for the sweet sweet headshots :3
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3336
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:27:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips? In general...forget about tank, be prepared to die a lot. As a Gal, make sure you're max damped. Fit at least 1 kin cat. Put sidearm damage mods in your highs. I'd also suggest swapping the ScP for a SMG as your target should be in shields if you maange to get a hit in with the knives, and the SMG if more forgiving in close quarters. But what ever works for you
Tip 1: Spend a week's worth of active SP to unlock Minmatar Scout Operations I Tip 2: Spend a week's worth of passive SP to unlock Minmatar Scout Operation II Tip 3: The IA5 Tactical Scrambler Pistol is a sexy, sexy weapon. Run an M-I with IshNoKs, don't bother with dampening.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
Personal Theme Song
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1638
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Brokerib wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Hmmm... Guys? I got addicted to ishukone knives and scrambler pistol combo. I'm using a Gallente scout.
Any tips? In general...forget about tank, be prepared to die a lot. As a Gal, make sure you're max damped. Fit at least 1 kin cat. Put sidearm damage mods in your highs. I'd also suggest swapping the ScP for a SMG as your target should be in shields if you maange to get a hit in with the knives, and the SMG if more forgiving in close quarters. But what ever works for you My fit currently: 1xComplex Precision 1xComplex Shield Extender (FOR SHAME) 2x Complex dampeners 1xComplex Kinetic Catalyzer 1xComplex Cardiac Regulator Ishukone Cloak Boundless RE's Ishukone Nova Knives Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol I am using the SCP for the sweet sweet headshots :3 It's a good fit if you're maining the ScP and using NKs for targets of oportunity, but if you're maining knives the shield extender will give you about 0.3 of buffer against a heavy (which should be the only thing still standing after a charged shot).
If you're mainly going for knife kills, concentrate on damage, so they don't get a chance to respond. And above all, knife responsibly...wait, no. That should be knife irresponsibily. And make sure to run with knives and use the good knife. You could put an eye out with that.
Knowledge is power
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10906
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:37:00 -
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Any tips for actually knifing people?
The actual act of putting the knife into the enemy throat?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1638
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Any tips for actually knifing people?
The actual act of putting the knife into the enemy throat? 1. Try not to **** up. 2. The pointy end goes in the enemy. 3. Start off with stationary targets and work your way up to mobile targets. 4. Don't be afraid to back off if it's going wrong. 5. Changing to your side arm after things go pear shaped will get you more kills than slashing wildly in the air. 6. Learn how to sprint jump/charge slash to catch running enemies.
Moody's explaination is probably a bit more comprehensive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhaQm2-g2-8
Knowledge is power
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1317
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Posted - 2014.07.14 02:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Any tips for actually knifing people?
The actual act of putting the knife into the enemy throat? Dont charge and walk behind them-charge the knives in midair after sprint jumping if you're behind.
IF they see you.....run away as fast as you can and pray they have poor aim...or just switch weapons and strafe like a madman. If you're near cover, get behind it, let him follow you and meet him from behind with NK slashes
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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