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Some Alaskan
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:41:00 -
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I went 21/9 with knives two days ago. It was the smaller complex with Bravo being underneath the "bowl" as I have heard some people call it. Since I know this place very well I was easily able to get in and out of the close quarters areas without taking much damage. |
J0LLY R0G3R
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
106
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:44:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Was in a match against my scout brothers and i was using my BPO assault suit they murdered us running around so fast if i killed one i get shot from behind from anther. Its crazy seeing a fast scout from a assault perspective if you don't see them first or don't have the better gear your pretty much dead. Also this is my Pub scout set up
Scout G-I Series 2 M512-A SMG C17 Flux 2 Shield extenders Enhance Cardiac Enhance Kin Cat Compact Nanohive
muhahaha, Jolly Roger is a beast huh?
Wasn't just me, I think I saw like 8-9 scouts in the warbarge. The scanning was so important on that map. It made it easy to figure which route to take to sneak up on em.
I'm convinced scouts are essentially the Velociraptors of dust 514. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
75
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:50:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:*Sigh* I need to spec into ARs or ScRs. All these new maps favor mid-range combat. From the complete hate of snipers to the very long distances from one installation to another. There is just no way I can run around with a shotgun or sniper rifle. Even the Research facility favors the AR. With long (20m+) hallways that are 2 person wide, even without aim assist you just shoot down the middle and guarantee hits. Most of these facilities have multiple ways to access the hallways, look around and you can get behind the folks holding the choke point. Three dimensionally as well, so many of these maps have given me the opportunity to Nova Knife death from above. Often we are speedy enough to get there before they even realize it. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
26
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:50:00 -
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Has anyone else noticed that occasionally enemies are invincible for a few seconds after spawning at a mobile spawn point? I unloaded 6 ****** rounds into a heavy with no damage done. Another instance a blue heavy and I were clearing an area when a red heavy spawned. Both me and the blue heavy died with almost no damage done to the red. There was no-one else in the area and I had just destroyed the mobile point when the red heavy became visible. I think this is nearly coincidence that both instances happened with heavies but possibly a glitch? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1116
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:51:00 -
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For Appia:
45.00 dB - Light-Frame 33.75 dB - Scout Level 5 (-25%) 31.73 dB - Profile Dampening Level 3 (-6%) 26.97 dB - One Basic Dampener (-15%)
^ Beats 28 dB Proto Scanners
Note: I'm not running dampeners as often as I'd first though necessary. Generally load up a match with a preferred fitting, then switch to dampened fitting if/when scanned. Did this against Marauder's AE killsquad earlier today. A red-dot whipped out a proto scanner which picked me up until I switched to one basic dampener. I'm at dampening Lvl(3) which suggests the above math is accurate. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
26
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:51:00 -
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That should say 6 shotty rounds. Darn small keyboards and big fingers. |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.09.14 21:48:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Math for Appia:
45.00 dB - Light-Frame 33.75 dB - Scout Level 5 (-25%) 31.73 dB - Profile Dampening Level 3 (-6%) 26.97 dB - One Basic Dampener (-15%)
^ Beats 28 dB Proto Scanners
Note: I'm not running dampeners all that often; haven't bumped into too many proto scanners on the field as of yet. Generally load up a match with a preferred fitting, then switch to dampened fitting if/when scanned. Did this against Marauder's AE killsquad earlier today. A red-dot whipped out a proto scanner which picked me up until I switched to a loadout with one basic dampener. I'm at dampening Lvl(3) which suggests the above math is accurate.
ugh, i don;t know why i keep doing it but i always think of the basic as only 10%.
I actually find proto scanners all the time though. |
Keeriam Miray
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.09.14 21:50:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:(I don't have video capture software anyway....) i don't have it too but... webcams & phonecams? ) quality may be *****, but if we can confirm kill it's ok.
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Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
56
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Posted - 2013.09.14 21:58:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Has anyone else noticed that occasionally enemies are invincible for a few seconds after spawning at a mobile spawn point? I unloaded 6 ****** rounds into a heavy with no damage done. Another instance a blue heavy and I were clearing an area when a red heavy spawned. Both me and the blue heavy died with almost no damage done to the red. There was no-one else in the area and I had just destroyed the mobile point when the red heavy became visible. I think this is nearly coincidence that both instances happened with heavies but possibly a glitch?
yeah it looks like the shotgun is dmg locked on spawning enemies for a few seconds (which is long enough to get killed)... i had countless occations were a guy spawned before me and i shot him 3 times without dmg him, while he was able to dmg me just as he turned visible :/ |
Canaan Knute
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
120
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Posted - 2013.09.14 22:31:00 -
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I use heavy suits more often than scout suits, so I should probably be removed from this list for the time being. Truth be told, I'm having some difficulty adjusting to the scout class. It might take me a while to get good enough. |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1035
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Posted - 2013.09.14 23:16:00 -
[1691] - Quote
Like 8 bit music and shotgun montages?
Admittedly there's a little medium shotgunning mixed in. Some matches my poor scout suit just couldn't withstand the mighty AR. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1119
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:30:00 -
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Canaan Knute wrote:I use heavy suits more often than scout suits, so I should probably be removed from this list for the time being. Truth be told, I'm having some difficulty adjusting to the scout class. It might take me a while to get good enough.
Thank you for touching base, Canaan. You are counted as brother among our humble ranks. We look forward to your return, should our beloved light-frame find favor in future builds. o7
- Shotty GoBang
Brothers Lost (this week)
- Canaan Knute
- Major Faux Pas
- Lycuo
- CEOPyrex (unconfirmed)
- King Checkmate (unconfirmed)
^ Am I missing anyone? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1119
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:05:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote: I'm convinced scouts are essentially the Velociraptors of dust 514.
There is no better term to describe us when we hunt in packs :-)
"Veloci" (Latin) ... Fast, Speedy "Raptor" (Latin) ... definitions vary: 1) Thief, robber, pillager, reaver, marauder, rapist 2) To drag violently off and ravage
So swift instruments of death and destruction ... or rapists of the quick variety (lol). |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
854
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:36:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Green Living wrote:Decided to skill into scout suits for 1.4, monumental mistake on my part. You have my condolences!! I hope you didn't sink too much SP into the suit and/or other 'scout' skills yet, if you are not liking it. However, in my opinion it's something you need to go "all in" on to make work. Every patch I have to find a new way to play scout to stay alive. I kind o f wish I had just specced into a medium frame suit with a good sidearm / AR and could get some kills and have some fun. It's taken me a week just to adjust to 1.4. I think I'm finally starting to do okay again..... I'm at advanced Gallente scout suit at the moment. I am enjoying the mobility and using my proto SMG, but a few AR bullets hit and I'm DONE, instantly. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1121
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:40:00 -
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Green Living wrote:but a few AR bullets hit and I'm DONE, instantly. Beware the Duvolle. Insta-kills scouts at zero to one-hundred meters. Speed, armor, firing first, evasive maneuvers ... all irrelevant.
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
854
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:49:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Green Living wrote:but a few AR bullets hit and I'm DONE, instantly. Beware the Duvolle. Insta-kills scouts at zero to one-hundred meters. Speed, armor, firing first, evasive maneuvers ... all irrelevant.
It's terribly frustrating. I feel bad for those of you maxed out in scout suits, as I'm finding the gameplay extremely difficult. Not that I mind the challenge, but still. |
Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:11:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Green Living wrote:but a few AR bullets hit and I'm DONE, instantly. Beware the Duvolle. Insta-kills scouts at zero to one-hundred meters. Speed, armor, firing first, evasive maneuvers ... all irrelevant. Not necessarily I've survived bullets hitting me from a duvolle. I don't know why i don't have the same problems that you all have except the fact that are range is crap. Other than that i don't let the game mechanics determine how well i do in battle. every built i find ways for it to work me for the better especially now that i got the gear to do so. My play style has not change really i my have tweak some think i may do but never my overall play style over the course of me playing this game. I've played like a scout sense i spec into scout yeah i'll go straight into battle like an assault but if i see no one taking an incentive to do something like capturing that objective. Also my suits have not change I've added more suits for different situations. like i say make the game work for you not the other way around. In all honesty i do this subconsciously cause i'll be in battle and notice i'm doing something a little bit differently. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
74
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:25:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Math for Appia:
45.00 dB - Light-Frame 33.75 dB - Scout Level 5 (-25%) 31.73 dB - Profile Dampening Level 3 (-6%) 26.97 dB - One Basic Dampener (-15%)
^ Beats 28 dB Proto Scanners
Note: I'm not running dampeners all that often; haven't bumped into too many proto scanners on the field as of yet. Generally load up a match with a preferred fitting, then switch to dampened fitting if/when scanned. Did this against Marauder's AE killsquad earlier today. A red-dot whipped out a proto scanner which picked me up until I switched to a loadout with one basic dampener. I'm at dampening Lvl(3) which suggests the above math is accurate.
I base my fits off the same math and have no problems with scanners though I have to use 1 complex dampener to beat the proto scanners since I only have lvl 3 scout m/g and not sure if profile is rounded to nearest whole number or if a 27.54 with only enhanced dampener beats 28.
How nice it would be if the info screen on fittings included profile, precision, range, and weapon damage the way it does for everything else.
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:30:00 -
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voidfaction wrote: I base my fits off the same math and have no problems with scanners though I have to use 1 complex dampener to beat the proto scanners since I only have lvl 3 scout m/g and not sure if profile is rounded to nearest whole number or if a 27.54 with only enhanced dampener beats 28.How nice it would be if the info screen on fittings included profile, precision, range, and weapon damage the way it does for everything else.
Agreed |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
498
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:40:00 -
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I've revisited knives recently with AS. Knives and breach scrambler pistol. Works ok in pubs on good maps - I try to lure out a solo red dot who's by himself then I run a circle behind some landscape feature and would jump on their back. |
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Lightning Bolt2
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
218
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:59:00 -
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just thought of an EPIC suit for domination, a logi with 3 diff types of remotes... uplink spam fixed!
I'll come back with my results. |
Canaan Knute
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
121
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Posted - 2013.09.15 09:45:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Thank you for touching base, Canaan. You are counted as brother among our humble ranks. We look forward to your return, should our beloved light-frame find favor in future builds. Best of luck in your future travels; your contribution to our cause will not be forgotten. o7
- Shotty GoBang I haven't given up yet. :) Just need to figure out how to make this class work. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
53
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Posted - 2013.09.15 11:16:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Green Living wrote:Decided to skill into scout suits for 1.4, monumental mistake on my part. You have my condolences!! I hope you didn't sink too much SP into the suit and/or other 'scout' skills yet, if you are not liking it. However, in my opinion it's something you need to go "all in" on to make work. Every patch I have to find a new way to play scout to stay alive. I kind o f wish I had just specced into a medium frame suit with a good sidearm / AR and could get some kills and have some fun. It's taken me a week just to adjust to 1.4. I think I'm finally starting to do okay again.....
I specced into proto medium AR last respec - now I'm dual speccing the same char for scout. Currently 1.5m SP away from L5 minnie scout suits. That's nearly two months of passive SP I think. Just in time for 1.6 hehe.
I am doing this because I got bored of AR and Scout is the first thing I ever did in DUST. Yes all-in is required I think, I suspect some of us run it on blind faith for a fix :D
I'm doing better, trying to understand better how to do stealth, and what not to do. Sometimes I go positive KDR, sometimes negative. It really depends on who I'm up against, and I notice on Weds after cap reset, I die very fast, I put that down to more top players being around to grind.
If sneak, hit and run is your style, you can certainly have fun as Scout, just don't expect any kind of easy KDR (I don't play for KDR anyway, probably because I'm an average player at best)
Anyway waffle over. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1446
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:59:00 -
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Dust2Dust has been running a special one off proto stomp ambush day today and it's been an absolute blast but also a bit of an eye opener for me.
Now I don't have proto scout yet (just got level 4 today), so I just found a way to switch up my adv pistol and SMG to proto; here's my loadout: Adv Gal Scout Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Ishukone Assault SMG Flux Grenade 2 x Complex Damage Mods Complex Armor Repairer Complex CPU Upgrade (note that this requires electronics level 5 and engineering level 4 - when I get eng lvl 5 I'll even be able to put an injector on it too!)
This costs around 93k isk per suit and one match I lost a good half a mil isk but in at least 75% of the battles I played today I at least broke even in isk terms; the big upshot is that my KD today was great! I reckon my average was around 3 but some matches were as high as 5 or 6. All in all, I'm down roughly half a million isk after probably 4 or 5 hours play but I had a lot of fun.
All this said, if it hadn't been for the fact I was running in a squad with other good players from my corp, I would have fared a lot lot lot worse and I would never recommend this in anything other than a good squad unless you're planning on throwing away A LOT of isk. I am however thinking that the proto pistol wasn't really worth the cost and I would have done just as well with my adv breach pistol, saving myself a nice 20k.
To finish on a happy note - favourite moments today were (barely) flanking around entire squads and one by one taking them out from around the corner of the box they're grouped up by; passive scanning was winning that one for me :) And when I say barely flanking, I mean literally going 5m away from their line of sight where they were shooting at my squadmates. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
159
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:06:00 -
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I've down graded my pub suit to 9k isk. Still posting top of the leaderboards every game. I'm done with spendy suits outside of PC. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1784
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:34:00 -
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Why would you use the Carthum Assault? If I wanted an SMG I would use an SMG. I found out a while ago that Assault pistols are really not worth it like the other Assault Weapons are. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1447
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:25:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Why would you use the Carthum Assault? If I wanted an SMG I would use an SMG. I found out a while ago that Assault pistols are really not worth it like the other Assault Weapons are. Yeah, I originally put it on there because there's no breach proto pistol but in future when we're doing a proto stomp day I'll just use my trusty TY-5 instead. Nothing beats the ishukone SMG though |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1787
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:04:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Yeah, I originally put it on there because there's no breach proto pistol but in future when we're doing a proto stomp day I'll just use my trusty TY-5 instead. I found I'd gotten so used to the ROF of the breach that I wasn't even making use of the assault ROF anyway! Nothing beats the ishukone SMG though Gek-38?
I do hate SMGs because I am a gallente scout so they pack the hurt against my huge majority of armor. And thank god some one else realizes how damn great the TY 5 is. I love it's hipfire accuracy and POWER!!!!!
I wonder what people think when they were killed by a scout with a super pistol. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1449
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:46:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Django Quik wrote:Yeah, I originally put it on there because there's no breach proto pistol but in future when we're doing a proto stomp day I'll just use my trusty TY-5 instead. I found I'd gotten so used to the ROF of the breach that I wasn't even making use of the assault ROF anyway! Nothing beats the ishukone SMG though Gek-38? I do hate SMGs because I am a gallente scout so they pack the hurt against my huge majority of armor. And thank god some one else realizes how damn great the TY 5 is. I love it's hipfire accuracy and POWER!!!!! I wonder what people think when they were killed by a scout with a super pistol. I dislike ADS because I lose FOV and movement flexibility, so I only ever hipfire. The annoying thing is that with the aiming changes it seems harder to get those headshots (with AA on or off), so most of the time I see myself taking down the shields with the pistol and finishing them off with the SMG - it really is a beautiful combo. The only difficulty is the range, especially with the breach pistol having less than the other variants.
edit - and yeah, hate getting killed by ARs at 100m whilst at full sprint. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1797
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:13:00 -
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Django Quik wrote: I dislike ADS because I lose FOV and movement flexibility, so I only ever hipfire. The annoying thing is that with the aiming changes it seems harder to get those headshots (with AA on or off), so most of the time I see myself taking down the shields with the pistol and finishing them off with the SMG - it really is a beautiful combo. The only difficulty is the range, especially with the breach pistol having less than the other variants.
edit - and yeah, hate getting killed by ARs at 100m whilst at full sprint.
I definitely use ADS on a breach when I have the element of surprise so I can line up head shots. I haven't had a whole lotta issue with lining up headshots in 1.4, they are still fairly prevalent for me, *god I love the Bell*.
Definitely I have found that the breach is not meant for the super frantic moments, where you are taking damage fast and you need to get the guy out fast. But damn I love OHK'ing snipers. One time I was walking (not running, it felt more like walking) behind an enemy Heavy and his HMG ran out of bullets and was taking fire. He turned around and started running away right towards me. I had the Breach Pistol out at the moment and it felt so slow-motion, I just popped that sucker heavy in the head. I bet he was thinking "Worst Decision Ever".
Anyways love the breach! GB 9 Breach AR is my primary. |
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