Its hard to believe its been a year since this thread was started. Even more so that it is still going strong.

It's because of the Power. The power of the teenage mutant minja turtles.
...I may be lacking sleep, or booze (they're interchangeable right?) don't mind me, move along

EDIT: Removed an arrow, three arrows was too much

For LogiBro, what would be your(and Am Scouts') opinions on making the Amarr scout 1/5 slot layout?

Neat that we got a proper dev reply, thanks Rattati! And welcome you all newcomers, do stick around for a while for the free beer and to enjoy my seldom posts writing fiction and enjoy your stay!

I'll leave the actual balance discussion for the others though, I haven't played DUST for too long to have any clue on the current balance of things, I was never really the one to comment on such things anyway. I'm just happy lurking and randomly commenting on random subjects (and shamelessly self-promoting my fiction).

Come to think of it, I wonder what would all the people in this thread be, if this were to be an actual fine establishment run by Shotty...

OH MY GOD I GOT HERE BEFORE APPIA

@ Gal Logi (Appia, Cross)
Perhaps best to wait-and-see? We could address as needed if/when confirmed to be necessary.

No way am I plowing through 813 pages to find the answer, so I will just post the question directly here.

If it can be done, what do scouts think of passive scans not being shared in squads, only active scans. If that is technically possible, maybe we can work on some of the scan/damp mechanics in a completely different way and CA scout won't be the be all and end all it is right now due to that.

That could lead to different hunting playstyles of various sig/scan profiles instead of the wallhack circle of death.

Independently of any ewar changes we mean to boost Amarr and Min Scouts in some way, not major way and also buff Assault, not nerf Heavies nor Scouts. If we can do that and not have to hit CA scout with nerfs, then that is our preferred path.

All good feedback appreciated
R

With the removal of this function, it boils down to three options:

• The scout deals with the target himself, risking his own life but obtaining the element of surprise.


• The scout verbally tells his squad about the position (to keep the element of surprise), but the squad will not have detailed info of the exact whereabouts and direction of the target.


• The scout "paints" the target with his active scanner, but in doing so alerts the target that he is targeted for execution, which gives him a chance to defend himself.

Read the answers to my question, really happy with the detailed answers.

Also read the Barbershop Scout Polish spreadsheet, obviously well thought out, presented, and much appreciated, definitely many takeaways for us there.

Thanks for now

Read the answers to my question, really happy with the detailed answers.

Also read the Barbershop Scout Polish spreadsheet, obviously well thought out, presented, and much appreciated, definitely many takeaways for us there.

Thanks for now

The things you don't expect to be asked , we can definitely look at the formula.

Would still like CCP to remove the directional arrow on the mini map and replace it with a circle instead.

Edit: TPLAK!

Appears my 1st post here was a vid. XD most of ya def beat me to the party.

Side note; whenever its figured out lemme know who I'm sending the 2nd attack isk to and how much.

3.) Buffing Assaults.

All you have to do to give assaults a place is to give people a REASON to run them.

Right now, nobody runs them because anything an assault can do, a scout can do better (With more scans, cloaking etc.). This is the EXACT same problem scouts had a while back (Anything we could do, a logi could do better).

The Assault : 593 HP

Your Minmatar fit highlights a big problem with assaults that I feel would greatly improve balance if fixed - regen. Look at this assault-scout fit in comparison to your assault:

Minmatar assault-scout

HP
Assault: 593
Scout: 578 (15 less)

Shield recharge
Assault: 38hp/s
Scout: 40hp/s

Shield delay
Assault: 3.69s
Scout: 4s

Shield depleted delay
Assault: 6.03
Scout: 5.95s

Speed
Assault: 5.3, 4.77, 8.77
Scout: 5.65, 5.09, 8.31

So, with the assault fitted for shield regen (as it should be in my opinion) these stats are similar (scout has better movement other than sprint). But the scout has lower profile, better scan range and precision, better stamina and stamina regen, armor repair, better hack speed, and a cloak. Compared to the assault's increased clip size.

Basically, all the regen mods have done is bring the regen to the level of a scout. Why bother when you could just use a scout suit? Solution?

Give assaults the same regen as scouts (or both somewhere in between). There is already a "reason" to run assaults, they are better at using rifles than other suits, but this regen disparity spoils their advantages by forcing assaults fit to play catch up with scouts, rather than enhancing their abilities.

The difference between the EWAR and regen stat disparity between scouts and assaults is that EWAR is not a thing that assaults are designed to worry about. Regen however is something important to assaults as you have demonstrated in your example. Fixing this would make a huge difference in my opinion.

Also removal of shared passive scans could work, but I haven't formed a strong opinion on this yet. It certainly seems like it would solve a lot of problems. I would be inclined to think the cooldown and scan angle restrictions on active scanners would balance Gal scouts when they take up Cal scouts scanning duties, but i'm no expert.

Actually, one thing while we still (hopefully) have your attention. Are you able to look into fall damage application? Currently a relatively minor fall can put a scout into half armor, while heavies can fall from the MCC without dying. Can be a real issue as I'll often lose most of my shields just jumping over a slightly raised barriers.

Moving to % based instead of a straight damage amount, or reducing the fall damage for scouts to be more reasonable level would be much appreciated. Has been an ongoing concern for us, as one of our main defences is mobility.

o7

No way am I plowing through 813 pages to find the answer, so I will just post the question directly here.

If it can be done, what do scouts think of passive scans not being shared in squads, only active scans. If that is technically possible, maybe we can work on some of the scan/damp mechanics in a completely different way and CA scout won't be the be all and end all it is right now due to that.

That could lead to different hunting playstyles of various sig/scan profiles instead of the wallhack circle of death.

Independently of any ewar changes we mean to boost Amarr and Min Scouts in some way, not major way and also buff Assault, not nerf Heavies nor Scouts. If we can do that and not have to hit CA scout with nerfs, then that is our preferred path.

All good feedback appreciated
R

OOHHHH, I need to check downstairs!

:: Runs toward the stairs, vaulting over a Iggy and Shotty's table as he goes ::

I think people are confusing "a well fit and coordinated squad" with "FOTM." scouts provide battlefield intelligence. If you remove this ability, the blueberries that constantly benefit from my assistance won't have that chance anymore, and the slaughter will become even more one-sided.

Think before you act on this one. The unintentional consequences (things that exist beyond the WP metric) are not clear.

The obvious counter to a CalScout is a mass driver. Please be cautious removing a canon role from a specialist class.

Damnit Ghost if you knock over my drink again

I think people are confusing "a well fit and coordinated squad" with "FOTM." scouts provide battlefield intelligence. If you remove this ability, the blueberries that constantly benefit from my assistance won't have that chance anymore, and the slaughter will become even more one-sided.

Think before you act on this one. The unintentional consequences (things that exist beyond the WP metric) are not clear.

The obvious counter to a CalScout is a mass driver. Please be cautious removing a canon role from a specialist class.

opinions on making the Amarr scout 1/5 slot layout?