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Master Smurf wrote:

Llast 326 wrote:

Spademan wrote:

Quil Evrything wrote:

After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly.

You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol.
400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment.

A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have.
It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout Ugh

but it's still in the useful category

Kinda think it should get a bonus to jump height or something.
That and climbing things should be a thing, like you jump, just miss the ledge, grab onto it, pull yourself up.
Make that use stamina and perhaps the Amarr scout will be more useful for getting into various places.

Did some testing of the jump on the Amarr suit.
It can get everywhere that my Gal scout can get, but more easily. Not because it jumps better, but because I can get to where I need to be with enough Stamina to make the jumps.
For example the rail-beam-beam-roof jump in the Facility, is done way quicker with the Amarr than the Gal, due to having a lot more stamina on arrival, and recovery between jumps. Also they can clear a few of my long jump gaps just as easily as the Spook, not sure if I land any further but they are not noticeably shorter on the jump.

And I dont understand why this would come as a shock - it was said before but Amarr users wanted "sexy"

Anybody knows that 4 lows and enough PG is all that is needed to do practically anything you want.

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Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1236	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:02:00 - [13261] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Llast 326 wrote: De bais n booat and debooats n da-bai. yeah? Oh, I love these games. The bays in boat and the boat's in the bay. No, that first part can't be right. The buoy's in the boat and the boat's in the bay. What's my prize? The boys are in the boat and the boat is in the bay Round two Where yabe-at now? Damn, I was thinking boy but it didn't make sense to me. I got this one. Where are you at now. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1233	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:25:00 - [13262] - Quote Spademan wrote: Damn, I was thinking boy but it didn't make sense to me. Nowt t'do but dat.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2890	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:28:00 - [13263] - Quote Spademan wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Llast 326 wrote: De bais n booat and debooats n da-bai. yeah? Oh, I love these games. The bays in boat and the boat's in the bay. No, that first part can't be right. The buoy's in the boat and the boat's in the bay. What's my prize? The boys are in the boat and the boat is in the bay Round two Where yabe-at now? Damn, I was thinking boy but it didn't make sense to me. I got this one. Where are you at now. Aye litteral translation is correct but it means "what are you up to right now" KRRROOOOOOM
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 308	Posted - 2014.04.15 10:42:00 - [13264] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Lol ... an intelligent tanker says to his peers: You guys should be playing single-player games. Pretty funny coming from NS.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1234	Posted - 2014.04.15 15:15:00 - [13265] - Quote After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1240	Posted - 2014.04.15 15:36:00 - [13266] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category Kinda think it should get a bonus to jump height or something. That and climbing things should be a thing, like you jump, just miss the ledge, grab onto it, pull yourself up. Make that use stamina and perhaps the Amarr scout will be more useful for getting into various places. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2890	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:01:00 - [13267] - Quote Spademan wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category Kinda think it should get a bonus to jump height or something. That and climbing things should be a thing, like you jump, just miss the ledge, grab onto it, pull yourself up. Make that use stamina and perhaps the Amarr scout will be more useful for getting into various places. Did some testing of the jump on the Amarr suit. It can get everywhere that my Gal scout can get, but more easily. Not because it jumps better, but because I can get to where I need to be with enough Stamina to make the jumps. For example the rail-beam-beam-roof jump in the Facility, is done way quicker with the Amarr than the Gal, due to having a lot more stamina on arrival, and recovery between jumps. Also they can clear a few of my long jump gaps just as easily as the Spook, not sure if I land any further but they are not noticeably shorter on the jump. KRRROOOOOOM
DaNizzle4shizle Pradox One Proficiency V. 773	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:12:00 - [13268] - Quote hey guys. I just compared my logi skills to a medic video. the logi vid Proficiency 5 on my combat rifle, rail rifle, and my assault rifle. Dedicated heavy repper with a bit of slayer inside.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2892	Posted - 2014.04.15 16:24:00 - [13269] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a self-repair module, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category They are easy to fit and make some nice builds, without having to invest a lot of SP. Spouse has run Heavy for awhile, and she added Amarr scout to her suit list. Even with 3 Electronics and 3 Engineering it's not hard to fit what you want on their and make a durable fit. Legacy of her Heavy is a Armour Upgrades to 5 so she has a pile of HP no matter what, leaving a lot of room for EWAR in the slots and solid weapon selection even high fitting cost items like the ScR. KRRROOOOOOM
LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 238	Posted - 2014.04.15 17:59:00 - [13270] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: hey guys. I just compared my logi skills to a medic video. the logi vid Congrats? Not sure the point of this post. Searching for likes? SAM-MIK Director My Caldari scout can see your silly cloaked logi =ƒÖà

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4221	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:13:00 - [13271] - Quote LeGoose wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: hey guys. I just compared my logi skills to a medic video. the logi vid Congrats? Not sure the point of this post. Searching for likes? I'm looking for likes. Plz guize, I needs moar forum skill. So close to 5k I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14251	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:48:00 - [13272] - Quote I wonder what race should get a shotgun next; should be anti-armor CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 350	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:54:00 - [13273] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category Kinda think it should get a bonus to jump height or something. That and climbing things should be a thing, like you jump, just miss the ledge, grab onto it, pull yourself up. Make that use stamina and perhaps the Amarr scout will be more useful for getting into various places. Did some testing of the jump on the Amarr suit. It can get everywhere that my Gal scout can get, but more easily. Not because it jumps better, but because I can get to where I need to be with enough Stamina to make the jumps. For example the rail-beam-beam-roof jump in the Facility, is done way quicker with the Amarr than the Gal, due to having a lot more stamina on arrival, and recovery between jumps. Also they can clear a few of my long jump gaps just as easily as the Spook, not sure if I land any further but they are not noticeably shorter on the jump. And I dont understand why this would come as a shock - it was said before but Amarr users wanted "sexy" Anybody knows that 4 lows and enough PG is all that is needed to do practically anything you want. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2892	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:05:00 - [13274] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I wonder what race should get a shotgun next; should be anti-armor I agree it should be anti-armour Rail Tech SG - Pretty balanced Armour Shield wise fitting to the Gal version - May be interesting as a slug through rather than scatter shot so as to balance range philosophy - Lower RoF than the Gal SG? Combat SG - Armour/Shield profile as projectile - More pellets than Gal, bigger scatter? - Higher alpha? Focused Blast SG (Minsplosive SG) -Explosive Damage profile -Shoots a shaped charge explosive focused away from the user -BOOM KRRROOOOOOM
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4226	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:16:00 - [13275] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I wonder what race should get a shotgun next; should be anti-armor I agree it should be anti-armour Rail Tech SG - Pretty balanced Armour Shield wise fitting to the Gal version - May be interesting as a slug through rather than scatter shot so as to balance range philosophy - Lower RoF than the Gal SG? Combat SG - Armour/Shield profile as projectile - More pellets than Gal, bigger scatter? - Higher alpha? Focused Blast SG (Minsplosive SG) -Explosive Damage profile -Shoots a shaped charge explosive focused away from the user -BOOM I like your style I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2892	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:18:00 - [13276] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: After much mocking of the Amarrr "Scout".. I actually tried it yesterday. And was impressed. It's very newb friendly. You can fit the basic scout, with Two armor plates, and a repairer, and a basic cloak, and a shotgun, and a bolt pistol. 400+HP scout for mimimal SP investment. A cheap scout, that can survive a shotgun blast, is a nice thing to have. It may be a slowmoving, blind hog of a scout but it's still in the useful category Kinda think it should get a bonus to jump height or something. That and climbing things should be a thing, like you jump, just miss the ledge, grab onto it, pull yourself up. Make that use stamina and perhaps the Amarr scout will be more useful for getting into various places. Did some testing of the jump on the Amarr suit. It can get everywhere that my Gal scout can get, but more easily. Not because it jumps better, but because I can get to where I need to be with enough Stamina to make the jumps. For example the rail-beam-beam-roof jump in the Facility, is done way quicker with the Amarr than the Gal, due to having a lot more stamina on arrival, and recovery between jumps. Also they can clear a few of my long jump gaps just as easily as the Spook, not sure if I land any further but they are not noticeably shorter on the jump. And I dont understand why this would come as a shock - it was said before but Amarr users wanted "sexy" Anybody knows that 4 lows and enough PG is all that is needed to do practically anything you want. I just find it interesting that the jump distance seems to equal, it is only a .20 difference in speed. other than that running and jumping in game play works out better than the Gal scout, not a surprise with the Stamina base and bonus. Most of us were saying that about the slots and Fitting ability during the lead up to 1.8 when the shouting was happening. KRRROOOOOOM
Krom Ganesh Nos Nothi 1513	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:23:00 - [13277] - Quote Min Shotugn Full-auto Less dps than Gal Shotgun More range than Gal Shotgun Less Dispersion than Gal Shotgun Larger clip capacity Comparable to the USAS 12 Amarr Shotgun Semi-auto More range than Min Shotgun Little dispersion Similar clip capacity to Gal Shotgun Lower RoF than Gal Shotgun Essentially a laser buck shot Cladari Shotgun Semi-auto Most range of shotguns No dispersion 1 shot in clip Very high damage (1HKO on mediums and lights) Medium-high or high reload time Essentially an elephant gun
IgniteableAura Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 889	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:46:00 - [13278] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I wonder what race should get a shotgun next; should be anti-armor My thoughts would be Minmitar for next shotgun, least if we want antiarmor. Minmitar "multi flaylock launcher" Smaller blast radius on each pellet. Would have 6 pellets that go about 10m and explode. Can kill yourself obviously. Amarr "death bloom" basically a short AOE (think lightbulb on the end) that does damage over time, can overheat. Amarr charge shotgun could also be in lore Caldari autoshotgun with spool up time. Youtube
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1236	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:59:00 - [13279] - Quote Meh. Scaled down version of plasma cannon. half the damage, half the shooting delay. reduced range Maybe with more rounds in the clip Plasma... (xxxx) ? Assault plasma cannon? Mind you, this is sounding very similar to the MD. So maybe the whole concept is redundant. Or maybe, we need an MD version, or equivalent, that doesnt have splash damage. YES!!! Maybe something that, rather than shooting "grenades", shoots some kind of putty blob that melts armor on contact. but it does have to actually CONTACT. So, high contact damage, but the "blobbiness" is what limits the range. (Hmm.. would be amusing to have a weapon that is like anti-flux: goes straight through shields, WITHOUT DAMAGING, but practically disolves almost any armor.)
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1242	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:00:00 - [13280] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I wonder what race should get a shotgun next; should be anti-armor Would a sort of laser "wave" kind of thing make sense? Like an almost cone thing, starts small and expands as it travels, remaining a constant field of laser. Wow, actually saying that makes it sound stupider than it did in my head I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 271	Posted - 2014.04.15 22:09:00 - [13281] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: It would be awesome to pull a 3-4 man kill feed off of a good flux SG combo Would be? Bang?
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1243	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:01:00 - [13282] - Quote By the way, a Corpmate is doing a thing, go show everyone your mad 1337 Skillz I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2893	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:17:00 - [13283] - Quote Jolly Plasma Canon KRRROOOOOOM
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1244	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:49:00 - [13284] - Quote So, this whole cloak stuff (I know, beating a dead horse with a morbidly obese dog in the middle of winter on a shrinking island in shark infested waters) is it limited purely to Shotty's and Cloaks? Or Cloaks in generally? Like if I gib someone with a Scrambler rifle, would they assume I used a cloak to get an edge? If I one-shot them with an Ion pistol, would they blame the cloak I may or may not have used? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1035	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:55:00 - [13285] - Quote Spademan wrote: So, this whole cloak stuff (I know, beating a dead horse with a morbidly obese dog in the middle of winter on a shrinking island in shark infested waters) is it limited purely to Shotty's and Cloaks? Or Cloaks in generally? Like if I gib someone with a Scrambler rifle, would they assume I used a cloak to get an edge? If I one-shot them with an Ion pistol, would they blame the cloak I may or may not have used? Shotgun scouts were getting called out for glitching prior to the cloak, because they were using fields of view and speed to their advantage and scrubs couldn't imagine someone being able to get that close to them without being seen. So yes. Every kill you get as a scout since 1.8 dropped will be attributed to abusing the cloak. Because scrubs are going to scrub. Knowledge is power
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1687	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:01:00 - [13286] - Quote I once watched a guy jump out of the enemy MCC without using his inertial dampeners. He died. Then he called me a no-skilled scrub for using the cloak. Double posting like a Kaiser.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4233	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:25:00 - [13287] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: I once watched a guy jump out of the enemy MCC without using his inertial dampeners. He died. Then he called me a no-skilled scrub for using the cloak. I once fell to my death in PC I lagged so hard, I died a full second after hitting the ground. I have never been so surprised in a PC before. I had the Inertial damp sound and everything going on :P I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1103	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:58:00 - [13288] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: I once watched a guy jump out of the enemy MCC without using his inertial dampeners. He died. Then he called me a no-skilled scrub for using the cloak. I once fell to my death in PC I lagged so hard, I died a full second after hitting the ground. I have never been so surprised in a PC before. I had the Inertial damp sound and everything going on :P Something like this happened to me too. I landed several times, hitting my inertial dampener each time, and then the game decided that wasn't good enough. Crappy moment for the rubber banding. Looking for the scout hangout?
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1247	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:05:00 - [13289] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Something like this happened to me too. I landed several times, hitting my inertial dampener each time, and then the game decided that wasn't good enough. Crappy moment for the rubber banding. I've just had moments when I practically teleport into the ground. I've a habit of activating my dampeners right before I hit the ground, but this time I stalled for like half a second, next thing BLAM! Straight into the ground. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1036	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:48:00 - [13290] - Quote Need some advice on my AV fit. This is what I'm currently running (Advanced level items are due to skill/fitting constraints). M/1 - Complex Kin Cat Complex Dampener Complex Shield Extender Enahnced Light Manage Mod F/45 Remote Explosives Compact Nanohive CBR7 Swarm Launcher Assault Scrambler Pistol EX-0AV Grenade ~40k Just wanted to get some opinions, am I best off dropping the AV grenade for the Flux? At the moment I'm using the REs for the primary strike to try and drop shields before hitting them with the Swarms, and the Grenades are for when they come hunting me and I don't have time for a lock. I'm not getting many kills but I can manage to keep 2/3 tanks occupied simultaniously if there's reasonable terrain around for me to hide in. I've noticed a couple of people mentioned that fluxes can be used to set off the REs in a combined alpha strike, which might net me a couple more kills, just not sure how effective it is. These days most tankers I run into seem to have picked up their game, so I generally only get 1 RE stuck before they race off into the distance and crash into a mountain. Knowledge is power



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