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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:56:00 -
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I guess you-¦re going amarr scout since you already have gal? Is there any other reason?
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:07:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:I guess you-¦re going amarr scout since you already have gal? Is there any other reason? I wanted to go amarr on the first place for RP reasons. I'm hoping we get a respec so I can change my gal into amarr.
I see, it has nothing to do with the insane stamina reg then? :p
Im probably specing into gal scout. Have not fullt decided. Kind of tired of the slow assault playstyle. I hope we all get a respec, so we can play the suit we want to.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:29:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character.  I find the stuff intuitive  I think this may mean I have a problem. Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK )
Yep, it is indeed fixed.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:33:00 -
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Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout?
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:39:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character. I find the stuff intuitive I think this may mean I have a problem. Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK ) Yep, it is indeed fixed. Is it just the Ferroscales that have been fxied or did they fix the way stacking penalties are calculated? (Hmm I'll run the test with 2 complex armor plates and then 1 basic plate instead of ferroscale, give me a sec...)
It was a problem because the bonus is -x% in movement speed, and that penalty was ordered largest to smallest, i.e. the smallest penalty got the biggest stacking penalty when using several mods. You could offset a complex plate with 2 basic pretty much. Or a two basic reactive plates and a complex plate.
CCP dont know how to write code right from the beginning.
It is now fixed though.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:11:00 -
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What, are you sure?
I really thought there was a stacking penalty on the plates movement speed reduction.
It is really ret*rded if they fixed this by removing the stacking penalty on the plates instead of flipping the sign.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:40:00 -
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The explanation is this Haerr
For complex plates:
Final movement penalty = 0.95^n
where n is amount of plates
1 plate is -5%
2 plates 0.95^2 = 0.9025 which is -9.75%
3 plates 0.95^3 = 0.8574 which is -14.26%
I guess its just a coincidence that when the stacking penalty 5% is becomes almost the same as -n*5%
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Posted - 2014.03.12 08:04:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Read that someone wanted some cal Scout fits? I made 1. Shotgun fit. The cal scout is tricky tho. Because all your high slots have to be shields to get a decent tank, they take up like half the total CPU and pg of the suit. And I really wanted to use a shield regulator on cal scout. It just seemed right. So it came down to picking between a biotic mod or a dampener for the last low slot. I personally went with a dampener http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/533 - shotgun cal scout Note: These are with CPU and PG at lv 5. But do NOT include any fitting optimization skills for gun. Note 2: anyone can ask me to think up a fit. I will of course always build it as a slayer fit though lol. P.S: RE+Cloak is my thing. So you will always see them on every single scout shotgun fit
It was me who asked for a cal scout, thanks Marauder!
Hmm, that low HP but uber shield reg is interesting. Its kind of like what an assault suit should be in my opinion.
Would you only run this with a shotgun?
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Posted - 2014.03.12 09:26:00 -
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Did anyone consider an amarr purist scout with LR and ScP?
I think that build is going to be great.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:04:00 -
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Wow guys,
I have been running my BPO scout during the weekend, and I really love the suit. Can get a jump on enemies with my CR, and pretty much outstrafe/outposition enemies during gunfights. This is much much better than what an assault can do.
I will finally be able to fulfil my role of a sneaky slayer. Being invisible is the reason for naming this character Spectral Clone.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:52:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Wow guys,
I have been running my BPO scout during the weekend, and I really love the suit. Can get a jump on enemies with my CR, and pretty much outstrafe/outposition enemies during gunfights. This is much much better than what an assault can do.
I will finally be able to fulfil my role of a sneaky slayer. Being invisible is the reason for naming this character Spectral Clone. Bpo scout?  I hope you're contributing a lot to the 2mill challenge! I wonder what we're at right now though.
Yeah I charged in like an assault yelling "Come at me bros!" =ƒÿë
Still did get some decent scores. This event weekend shows how fun dust is when players just go at it. Except for the occasional KDR padder running heavy with RR. Those guys are so bad in CQC and will never be good players.
I think we passed 1,2M clones like 10 hours ago? I hope we reach 2M, I really need more SP for a future assault suit, after the slot rebalance.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.16 15:21:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Bpo scout? I hope you're contributing a lot to the 2mill challenge! I wonder what we're at right now though. I ran just my 11k BPO RE/RR build most of the time and if the map was right/no lag ran a full Dren out fit (Suit, SG and ScP) costing me ~3K. What's weird... My KDR for the event is higher than average, it's weird what not caring does for you. It's like being slightly drunk. Works wonders. Not to doubt your abilities or anything but the increased kd may be down to many players also playing cheap fits.
Of course. Scouts will however trump flanking assault suits in 1.8. If you bricktank them. Dat scanning and profile with charge shot on ScR will make protobears cry.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 09:39:00 -
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So, it seems like the some of the Amarr suits in are "in between roles".
Amarr logi is in a hybrid of logi and assault.
Amarr scout is in a hybrid of scout and assault.
Yes? No?
I still think the Amarr scout is going to be great, much better than an assault suit at slaying.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 10:32:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:
Not to mention the Amarr Scout is very good at replicating other suit's roles.
This is the kind of dropsuit I am looking for TBH. Both gallente and amarr scout can fulfil several roles. Both get a perk bonus of either scanning/profile or stamina. Gal gets a enhanced repper, while the amarr get more base HP (should IMO be a enh plate to be comparable).
So all in all, if you-¦re into armor scouts, both will be fine for you. Possibly amarr is better because fitting a profile dampener does not hit as hard on your PG as a cardiac regulator mod. This is good if you intend to run a ScR on your scout (or other power hungry things).
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:34:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:So awoke hoping that as it's Tuesday 18th March there'd be patch notes for me to read on the train to work...
I am disappoint :(
Im guessing CCP LogiBro will do a DriveBroGäó at IRC some time after lunch.
www.dustcharts.com -> Chat
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Posted - 2014.03.18 12:40:00 -
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Anyone planning to use plasma cannons with cloaks?
I think this will be one of the better options when killing heavies.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:59:00 -
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A scout will be something different in 1.8 than it has been up until 1.7.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:17:00 -
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I wonder if people are going to call light assault scouts "not true scouts".
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:10:00 -
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ScR + SMG to be effective vs all types of dmg.
Just as I planned before everything started dieing instantly from everything.
What do you think about this combo Django? Only problem is that its hard to fit the ScR. CR is so much better in that sense.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 15:24:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:ScR + SMG to be effective vs all types of dmg.
Just as I planned before everything started dieing instantly from everything.
What do you think about this combo Django? Only problem is that its hard to fit the ScR. CR is so much better in that sense. CR + ScP better fitting wise, ScP has good DPS if you can aim
Yeah, but nerf :(
And no charge shot around corners. Being a scout must have some benefits, right.. RIGHT?! :D
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:02:00 -
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Anybody know how the Ion Pistol will work? It seems to have sick alpha. Does it overheat after one charge shot, making you incapable of switching weapon?
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:17:00 -
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CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:27:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass. This too. Though my Minja will lack heavy slaying power (if they let you switch weapons during its overheat though, the Charge followed by ACR might be deadly. The Charge will wipe off around 500 shields at range, and then follow up with a hailstorm of projectiles.
It has a great balanced dmg profile +10% shield -10% armor.
Do you know what the weapon operation skill does?
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:42:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Driftoward wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:Apparently there's some extreme badness involving something in the SDE but IWS won't divulge... Iron Wolf Saber wrote:SDE is the only clue Ill give. Anyone got time to sift through and try to dig out the problem from the SDE? I'll take a look, although could it be the ScP nerf that everyone is talking about. I bet IWS or someone will post the problem today if it's not the ScP nerf. EDIT: It's AV related Someone was also mentioning the difference between the sentinel skills vs. other racial skills and how sentinel skills don't seem to actually have the right modifiers. Also, that ck.0 seemed to only require level 3 in the racial skill? IgniteableAura did the digging. I'm only spreading the vicious rumours.  Haha it's true, the Scout ck.0 required skill is currently level 3. (requiredSkills.0.skillLevel = 3) There's probably a couple of typos in the SDE. I recall some people found other errors.
Or maybe they actually changed the suit unlocks to lvl 3??
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Posted - 2014.03.19 17:07:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining.
Perhaps suits unlocks at lvl 3. Do you remember shield energizers in the beginning? Hehe.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:54:00 -
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Ion pistol is a hybrid between ScP and shotgun. So of course they want you to spec into it, it will be great and then nerfed 2-3 month after. Just like the flaylock.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:17:00 -
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Found a breach and assault plasma cannon in the SDE yesterday. 1400 direct damage on the ADV breach one. It seems like my gal scout with plasma cannon will be viable in the future!
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Posted - 2014.03.20 08:46:00 -
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I dont think the new plasma cannons will be released in 1.8. Possibly in the expansion!
But yeah, both the breach and assault plasma cannons make me very excited. Shall we soon see a Gallente MD?!?!!?
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:02:00 -
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Marauder, what do you think about these guys calling tanked scouts "not real scouts"?
I think its silly.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:05:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:With the flood of newbro scouts coming in 1.8, how long do you all reckon it'll take before they realise we have shared passive scan?
Hmm?
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:07:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:
IMHO, Speed vs HP comes down to personal preference, playstyle and the task at hand. What works one build may not the next; there is no right or wrong choice. Unless, of course, you chose to be a f*cking sissy coward and pilot an HAV.
Thank you so much for posting this.
Makes me feel more welcome into the scout community! :)
I am a scrub though. Dont forget that.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:26:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:
Thank you so much for posting this.
Makes me feel more welcome into the scout community! :)
I am a scrub though. Dont forget that.
* Sharpens Blades * I thought you were here for the free haircut, Tourist. What did I say something that made you feel welcome?
I will have one suit in 1.8. That is a gallente scout suit.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:48:00 -
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Its a light assault TranquilBiscuit.
Wont be OP, just better than assaults for the moment. There is a significant difference.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:58:00 -
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Quik Django wrote:Has anyone actually tried building some theoretical assault suits for 1.8? Do scouts really outperform them or is this just panicked scaremongering? I'd like to see some fits please :)
Scout fits are better.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:56:00 -
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Is it just me, or does it seem like the range measurements in this game is not right?
Does it have something to do with the FOV?
Feels like we all are 2.5m tall giants.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:20:00 -
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Interesting fitting:
Scout gk.0
Complex Precision Enhancer
Complex Shield Extender
Complex Range Amp
3x Complex Armor Plates
Boundless CR
BPO SMG
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
Core Focused Repair Tool
"Why do you need active scanner logi, when you can have a passive scanner logi?"
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:27:00 -
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Quik Django wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Interesting fitting:
Scout gk.0
Complex Precision Enhancer
Complex Shield Extender
Complex Range Amp
3x Complex Armor Plates
Boundless CR
BPO SMG
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
Core Focused Repair Tool
"Why do you need active scanner logi, when you can have a passive scanner logi?" 55m scan range is hardly like a scanner logi. And wow! We can really fit all but one slot as proto!? I'm even more inclined to believe we have too much fittings space in 1.8 now.
Hmm, sorry, forgot to mention the STD flux obviously. This is with Core Upgrades 5, Electronics 5 and Engineering 5.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:47:00 -
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Bolt Pistol Operation
5% reduction to bolt pistol kick per level.
http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/366592
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:54:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Attn Newcomers: Follow Spectral Clone around for a few days. Take notes.
Now I get what you mean, LOL! ;)
Had to think for a few seconds there.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:06:00 -
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These skills will be very good in 1.8:
- Range Amplification
- Precision Enhancement
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:49:00 -
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So, how viable is a caldari scout compared to a gallente scout for a tanked slayer role?
I guess you will at least be moving really really fast, with a great tank (almost as much shield as an assault, 50 hp/s) and a CR.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:51:00 -
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Dudes, brick tanking scouts is not new.
I just realized yesterday that complex ferroscales are pretty easy to fit on the gal scout. Its freakin insane xD super strafe, super speed and high HP. Gal scout is actually very similar to cal scout.
Scout gk.0
3x Complex Ferroscales/2x Complex Ferroscales+1x Complex Armor Plate
Complex Range Amplifier
Complex Shield Extender
Complex Precision Enhancer
OMG. Just realized gal logis will be able to stack ferroscales too.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:35:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:SInboto: OH damn what is that ugly ass thing, oh man is that a new model for the Matar scout, I hope not that thing is fuc.....that's the Amarr scout isn't it? *hates Amarr so much he be hating on the Amarr while not knowing it's Amarr*
That suit looks beastly!
Too bad it sucks.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 07:09:00 -
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
You can fit this on a gk.0 scout (assuming maxed cores):
3x Complex Ferroscale Plate
1x Complex Armor Plate
2x Complex Shield Extenders
Boundless Assault CR
Toxin SMG
Core Locus Grenade
2x Compact Nanohives
Stats
eHP 236.5 [777.7] HP
Movement Speed 5.45 [5.18] m/s
Strafe Speed 4.91 [4.66] m/s
Sprint Speed 8.01 [7.61] m/s
Scan Profile 35 [23.625] dB
Scan Precision 40 [36] dB
Scan Radius 20 [37.5] m
OR
4x Complex Ferroscale Plate
2x Complex Shield Extenders
Boundless Assault CR
Toxin SMG
Core Locus Grenade
1x Compact Nanohives
Stats
eHP 236.5 [711.7] HP
Movement Speed 5.45 m/s
Strafe Speed 4.91 m/s
Sprint Speed8.01 m/s
Scan Profile 35 [23.625] dB
Scan Precision 40 [36] dB
Scan Radius 20 [37.5] m
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Posted - 2014.03.25 08:15:00 -
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Funny thing, I was tweaking with caldari scouts a bit yesterday. And then I realized that I had forgotten to try fitting ferroscale plates completely.
Was actually thinking about cal scout for a while there, but with these kind of speedy builds, you can be much more diverse with a gal scout. Also, many have BPOs.
If you are a roleplayer, and want to play your faction scout, I do respect that. But there is no reason to spec into another scout than gallente if you want to max your build and be versatile.
Gal scout:
- Best scanner
- Best runner
- Best light assault
- Best hacker
Low slots RULE, period!
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Posted - 2014.03.25 09:31:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Keep in mind that stats and slots for med frames are still to be fixed by CCP. Likely next patch assaults will get a sizeable buff (my guess would be towards base eHP) and logis may get a slight fittings/slots nerf (they're not actually changing/gaining that much from the new skill bonus.
Also, keep seeing people talking about card regs - unless you're running 600m in one shot regularly, it's always better to use kinkats instead. If you can fit them that is.
Speed > Stamina (which is why all the amarr scouts are so upset).
Oh, but assaults will never be better than scouts Django unless something radical is done. Like a 50% CPU/PG buff or something.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 09:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Django Quik wrote:Keep in mind that stats and slots for med frames are still to be fixed by CCP. Likely next patch assaults will get a sizeable buff (my guess would be towards base eHP) and logis may get a slight fittings/slots nerf (they're not actually changing/gaining that much from the new skill bonus.
Also, keep seeing people talking about card regs - unless you're running 600m in one shot regularly, it's always better to use kinkats instead. If you can fit them that is.
Speed > Stamina (which is why all the amarr scouts are so upset). Oh, but assaults will never be better than scouts Django unless something radical is done. Like a 50% CPU/PG buff or something. Eh, assaults can dit better weapons I guess Plus assaults will get rebalanced soon(tm)
I-¦ll be able to fit ADV ion pistol/ADV ScP and proto ACR.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 10:53:00 -
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Will you guys keep us scouts updated on the ion pistol functionality??
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:22:00 -
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LuLZ
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:25:00 -
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mollerz wrote:
8- Being a scout is definitely, all about being cloaked now.
Hmmm...
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:41:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Scout CK.0 is the new Cal AssaultI wish I was kidding. Ran into a squad today that had two guys running the above with Boundless CR's. You could sneak up on them, hit them with a charge Ion, and then die as they tank the shot and kill you with a rifle. They literally ran it like an Assault the entire game. Makes me sick.
Your tears fuel my gallente scouts ferroscale plates.
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Spademan wrote:Loving the Ion pistol, been tearing it up out there with it.
Did you spec into sharpshooter?
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Spademan wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Spademan wrote:Loving the Ion pistol, been tearing it up out there with it. Did you spec into sharpshooter? Nah, the only two weapons I've gone past level 3 operation is the ScR and the SMG.
Oh, but sharpshooter skill unlocks at lvl 1 operation.
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Django Quik wrote:
The scrambler pistol range is just gorgeous now and my breach is beautiful - have to keep reminding myself that I can hit that guy at 50m and still do decent damage! The SMG is still pretty good but the range is still about as far as I could throw the bullets myself - that's ok though cuz it's my CQC weapon afterall.
Replace SMG with CR, lower fitting cost, higher DPS, longer range! ;)
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Django Quik wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Django Quik wrote:
The scrambler pistol range is just gorgeous now and my breach is beautiful - have to keep reminding myself that I can hit that guy at 50m and still do decent damage! The SMG is still pretty good but the range is still about as far as I could throw the bullets myself - that's ok though cuz it's my CQC weapon afterall.
Replace SMG with CR, lower fitting cost, higher DPS, longer range! ;) I shall not fall to your persuasion Spectral - I shall never spec into any of those damn rifles! Sidearms4life!
Oh, but it is the new shotgun.
Did you even try the assault CR? I know you want to. And I know you have the SP!11!!!! xD
I just want to run a CR/Pistol scout gank squad with you, that is all!
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Django Quik wrote:Seems the consensus is with me? Think I'll post up a "Remove dampening bonus from cloaks" thread in GD today then...
If you disagree, let it be known or forever hold your peace...
Or something.
I approve of this!
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noob cavman wrote:Ok rant time. im sick of people telling me how to run my scout suit. if I want run plates for a game I will. if I want to run kincats I will. if I want to run fecking damps. I Blood well will. feck off and when you get there feck off some and when your there go play with a pigeon your superior in intelligence  arrrrrrrrrgh!
Dude, you are spot on. These nay-sayers need to HTFU and learn to adapt.
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I love the bolt pistol. Already got it proto and I'm debating whether prof is worth the sp since it already destroys armor.
You running shotty + bolt pistol?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:39:00 -
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When assaults get their HP buffed (hopefully), noone will QQ about scouts bricktanking, and everything will be OK. 
Dont get why the cal/gal scan scout is considered to be OP, its very well balanced VS the ability to tank. One has to consider that its a very niche role to be a scan scout also.
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Damn, I really love to be a scout now. Flanking and harassing the enemy team with my cloak, CR and grenades.
I think I was a scout trapped in an assault suit previously. That was not working out so well... 
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Niuvo wrote:Gotta say that scouting is 10xs fun now.
is g-1 suppose to have 3L?
Yep.
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Django Quik wrote:I'm thinking mass driver but then I'd need to get the magsec too, so that I still have both armor and shield tankers covered.
Just wait for the assault plasma cannon, its going to be one of the best scout weapons.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 10:54:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Django Quik wrote:I'm thinking mass driver but then I'd need to get the magsec too, so that I still have both armor and shield tankers covered. Just wait for the assault plasma cannon, its going to be one of the best scout weapons. Judging by the length of time some of that stuff has been in the SDE, you'll be waiting a long time for all the new plasma cannon variants!
That is true, but since I have proto PLC, I need to keep the hope up.
What about shotty? Its great. I am kind of enticed to spec into it.
Shotty + SMG or shotty + MSMG.
Can the mass driver really be used as a shotty? If so, it would be fun since you can pop in and out of cover quickly (fast speed) and pwoop the reds to death.
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Sinboto: Since you were a FOTM MD scout before it was cool, would you recommend it now? 
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Sinboto: Since you were a FOTM MD scout before it was cool, would you recommend it now? Ok first of all: OWWWWAnd yes I find Caldari to be the best scout to use the MD on, ironically, your ability to track cloaked scouts along with the MDs armor damage bonus just slaughters armor tankers, and shield tankers don't have the HP to withstand the barrage, just keep moving (ala avoid damage) and make sure your shots land and you should become a nasty little scout hunter. And mind the splash damage, especially when lagged, you have no idea how many times I've killed myself with that damn thing.....
I was thinking about using the assault MD in the context of hmm... flanking large groups of redberries.
Should probably spec into STD bolt pistol + shotty really. It seems like one of the best combination for a gal scout.
But I-¦m waiting for the Ion pistol to become better. I want a sidearm shotty please.
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Django Quik wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Wow we have people complaining about scouts being too fast now, any bloody excuse..... It's called clutching at straws. They won't stop until they never die to scouts again and we're back to being the underdogs we always were since Uprising. CCP really really need to get those assault slots/stats hotfixed ASAP, so all this nonsense goes away - that is seriously all it will take. Then at some point they can sort out the issue that bricktanking > ALL.
Its rediculous. Scouts ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FAST.
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Django Quik wrote:Oh in other news, skilled into standard mass driver for a quick ambush last night and it was really fun. Works great with passive scan and flanking. Took out tonnes of equipment and got like 10 assists in about 5 mins. Only 1 kill though but I imagine that would rise as I skill further up and use better variants. Will probably have to downgrade to standard nanohive and/or remotes to fit it on my passive scanning advanced gallente scout though.
But glad I tried it - my mind is made up. MD/ScP is my new combo. Then maybe one day I'll pick up the magsec and see how that feels as my sidearm...
But until I get myself some more SP most of my suits will still be running Br ScP/aSMG
Oh man, now you make me wanna run scout gank duo with my CR and your MD. We could do some serious damage :D
Gal/Min hybrid scouts FTW.
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Anyone running the Tac ScR/assault ScR on a scout btw? I think its the perfect flanker weapon for a scout, huge alpha burst + charge shot.
I got Prof 4 ScR from my old life as an assault, so I better try it!
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DJINN Marauder wrote:
Anyone else think prof isn't worth the SP? Not to say that it should be changed back but I don't personally want to use my SP for it. Maybe I should use my SP on things like ammo and optimization?
I need help
I believe prof is good on weapons that have proficiency bonus against armor. Shield based proficiency its pretty useless to bring it very high, since no one has huge buffers of shield anyway.
You could bring the CR to prof 3 or something for that extra boost to armor damage. Think about the accumulated damage profiles you get and the balance ratio between shield buffer to armor buffer in percent.
Otherwise, bank your SP until medium suits are fixed, and get a one!
Do not spec into:
Plasma cannons
ARs
Ion Pistols
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Django Quik wrote:Oh for *profuse profanity*'s sake!
The cloak QQ is the most irritating load of nonsense overflowing these forums. The suggestions to fix it are easily some of the worst ideas ever to be voiced on these forums. Most people are simply looking at the symptoms and blaming entirely the wrong thing for what's happening.
Case in point: I keep getting shotgun 2hk'd before I even know someone's there! The shotgun must be OP and the shotgun cloak combo must the OPOP because that's the only way I wouldn't have seen them. And as an extra just in case, assaults need better ewar capabilities to combat sneakiness and stealth.
These are serious points made in many of the posts against cloaks.
The biggest problem with the cloak is that you can still shoot at least for half a second while cloaked before it deactivates. During that time you get your extra dampening and lower visibility (even if it is still blurry, it's a difference). Once this is fixed, a massive proportion of the cloak QQ problems will instantly disappear.
It seems that a lot of the brick tanked scout rage has died down lately - I'm assuming the brick mediums got scared when people started suggesting nerfing HP mods - so focus has turned to ewar. Now they want to even the ewar playing field between scouts and medium suits! WTF!? WTFF!? FWTF!?!? Make the ewar suit out-ewar-able by a DPS suit? FFS!
I still think the extra dampening bonus on cloaks is unnecessary - cloak does give a sizeable advantage already and if you want to be properly undetectable by most, you should have to sacrifice slots to do so. Ok so caldari scouts might still easily pick you up but that's one suit, one viable counter. Everything needs it's one viable counter.
Lastly, I maintain that regular armor plates need nerfing. Remember when the complex plate had 10% movement penalty and no one used them? Seems like a very long time ago now. Then they got massively buffed (did the HP go up as well at that point?) at the same time the ferros and reactives got introduced. I still don't entirely understand why they got so hugely buffed. I still don't understand why prior to that the entire game was shield tanking.
Armor plates currently give far too much bang for their buck but I wouldn't actually want to change that. Bring back the old speed penalties and see how that changes things. No scout is going to want to lose 30% of their speed to fully armor tank. And remember maths, people. 10% of 8.01m/s > 10% of 6.43m/s. Anyone suggesting differing speed penalties between suit classes needs to recognise that this already happens. Scouts lose a lot more speed than assaults or heavies because they have more to begin with and the penalty is % based.
You have really pointed out everything that is not working as intended with scouts.
Everyone just need to print the above and stick it to their ******* computer screen/TV/forehead/refrigerator.
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Profile / Precision rounded to the nearest whole number.
Ties go to the scanner.
Would recommend leaving scanning to Gal Logi and Cal Scout.
Would recommend maximizing all Electronics Skills.
I run Precision Enhancers on my Cal, but never on my Gal.
Killing Scouts is pretty easy in both. Even running 4 complex precision enhancers, I find too many Scouts killing me from surprise as they're below my max precision.
You have to take into account that skills might not be applying due to the passive skills bug.
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Hmm, shouldnt the cloak/decloak sound be audible for everyone close to you? I think its a really important feature.
This is the reason why the cloak is "OP".
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Anyone think CR will get Nerfed more? I'm thinking of getting my first weapon prof 5. CR seemed most appropriate.
I ******* hope so. I guess I'll just keep my sp. I'm too scared to spend my 2 mill
Since youre a shotgunner, get a MD!
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Alright so I decided to go cal scout. I got it to lv 3 that's as much as my sp let me do....
First game : 53-4.... By god... My passive scanning crutch in pubs is BACK!!!!!!!!!
God I feel stupid for going amarr... :/
Told you so!
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If you want to scan mediums far away, guess which suit is the best? Gallente XD
2 complex plates, 2 range amplifiers, 2 precision enhancers.
Dont really need damps if youre running with a squad. Sticking together > other scouts.
Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG
Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon
Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:If you want to scan mediums far away, guess which suit is the best? Gallente XD
2 complex plates, 2 range amplifiers, 2 precision enhancers.
Dont really need damps if youre running with a squad. Sticking together > other scouts. exactly
I get it, and im a newbro scout. Well, must say that im a pretty decent theorycrafter... Its my religion.
Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG
Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon
Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Actually, 1 enhanced dampener, 1 comlex plate, 2 range amps, 2 precision enhancer, ishukone cloak field, creodron shotgun, Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol, Wiyrkomi Nanohive, and flux grenade is my choice for that style.
enhaced damp + cloak = invisible to 4 cPE Cal-Scout or Gal-Logi's Focused Scanner
True dat. But do you need the damp if you run CR like I do? Not sure. Speed does however affect strafe, so your fit might be the better one for CQC.
Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG
Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon
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Scan/rep scout is insane in theory, since you provide passive scans for the heavy.
Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG
Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon
Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
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CCP Rattati - The wielder of the sh*t sandwitch called Dust 514.
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o7 Shotty
Hope to see you on a master race platform soon.
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:o7 Shotty
Hope to see you on a master race platform soon. Used to be a PC gamer, but came to find consoles more convenient. May buy a PC to play to more Dust; depends on what transfers. Either way, Dust 2 is long way out. In the mean time, grinding for Proficiency 5 Swarms. As craptastic as they are now, I have faith in Rattati to make them right. And I will have my pound of flesh. How 'bout you? Are you going to stick around on PS3 for awhile?
I have already quit :< PS3 got disconnected and packed in the closet the day after the Dust 514 Keynote.
Playing Marvel Heroes ARPG now, and doing RL stuff. Trolling these forums a bit also (Especially CCP's carebear suggestions for Legion).
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I'm rated S for Scout4LyfeYoloz.
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Bastards Have a look hereChanges incoming, not directly to us but many things that will effect us Such as Cloak Damp bonus will be goneGǪ We've all seen the scanning table. Many of us have created our own or link people to Haerr's (as his is nice and pretty). Please point out of terrible an idea it is to take away the dampening bonus because of the unfair situation it puts onto Minmatar Scout.
Awww sh't, as usual CCP only looks at only a sub-set of the issue at hand, and tries to solve it.... without analyzing impact on scouts (in this case) in general.
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You guys still playing this good game?!
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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Insider information from ex. CCP employee why WoD was shut down, why Incarna and Dust 514 was a fail:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf
Sorry to bring the bad news to you guys, but you need to stop paying this company your money, they are no better than EA.
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voidfaction wrote:Welcome to the real world.
Defending CCP is like saying the Dole banana pesticide scandal in the 70:s was acceptable, just because, real world.
All I hear is failed logic, from a CCP fanboy.
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voidfaction wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:voidfaction wrote:Welcome to the real world. Defending CCP is like saying the Dole banana pesticide scandal in the 70:s was acceptable, just because, real world. All I hear is failed logic, from a CCP fanboy. Sorry i'm not defending CCP. It is the real world of business. The way I see it was some devs got paid to do a job that in the end was canceled. Who lost? CCP because they had to pay those people that returned no product to profit them. Yes it's sad people lost there jobs but this is the real world where a company has to make decision to keep the company profitable vs keeping employees. If you have or had your own company you would know that #1 is money. Without money you have no company and employees don't work for free. You hire when you need more employees you cut when they are not needed. You have to prioritize you company on what makes you profit and drop things that don't and sometimes that even means projects that are not complete to find out if they will make a profit.
As a company, you do have a choice. There's good ways to make money by providing a good product and good service i.e. customer support, and then there is cash grabbing assholes like CCP. CCP and EA are not un-ethical per definition, but they are definately in the grey zone.
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Cat Merc wrote:He didn't shut me down, but I'll say no further because ban hammer 
He didn't shut you up, but he shut you up.
Logic.
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CCP Rattati wrote:I have all the MKB threads on my own trello, they would fall under "User Experience" on the Roadmap
I hope my research can help you in fine tuning the mouse emulation!
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:There are no "armor nukes" ... anti-armor weaponry depletes reserves over time, and for each plate added that time is meaningfully extended.
Regular CR.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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FOTMatar mk.0:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2512860#post2512860
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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Tiericide finally happening. As described in this thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2764740#post2764740
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
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