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mollerz wrote:

Quil Evrything wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

So, you claim that you only have one fit with a flaylock.

You only got one kill with the thing. (Minus a few stealth distance kills)

And you are telling me, a person who has used this as a primary side for the past two months that the damage on the flaylock is borderline OP.

Do see what I am trying to say?

I only got one kill with it, because I suck at using it. I dont adjust to the travel time well.
Meanwhile, there are folks such as (yourself?) who can reliably hit with the thing.

The test of OPness is how the weapon does, with areasonably skilled user.

You dont judge how powerful a Duvolle AR is, by dropping it in the hands of an Academy merc.
(Gee, they died just as fast. Guess it isnt a particularly good weapon...)

Or do you claim that you like using it, but you dont land many shots on target with it either?
And that no-one else can, even when they've been using it for a long time?
Seems like I can recall reading a few posts by people to the contrary on that.

Go ahead. Say it with me.

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Scout Registry Nos Nothi 924	Posted - 2014.01.22 02:13:00 - [8251] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I leave for classes, and all of the sudden everyone is making me a Liason! Love you. Have fun :P
Keeriam Miray R 0 N 1 N 279	Posted - 2014.01.22 02:43:00 - [8252] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Logi bro confirmed today there are some changes planned for the scanner but that they are not ready yet. He didn't hint at what they would be either. Changes i would like to see: 1 - instant scan, no 360scan dancing & less give away position (due to visual effect, that can be seen in map mode or trough walls). 2 - significant recharge time, 20sec for scanner with fastest recharge time + skill (skill reduce recharge time per level). 3 - 1 active scanner per fit. Powerfull proto scanners with recharge time of 30sec (+skills) would be ok i think. Also fix to that "Screen Scanning" especialy when scoped\zoomed needs to be done asap, it gives alot advantages to snipers & hurts scouts stealth play. If you a sniper & squad leader that can mark targets, it works even better than any active scanner -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦-ï-+ -+-+-¦-¦-é -¦-ï-é-î -é-+-+-î-¦-+ -+-+-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦. -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦...
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 548	Posted - 2014.01.22 02:56:00 - [8253] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Mother of God ^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1747102#post1747102 PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 345	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:07:00 - [8254] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Mother of God ^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1747102#post1747102 Wow. And they're reworking damage mods as well? ...time to star saving for proto REs.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4130	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:37:00 - [8255] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Mother of God ^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1747102#post1747102 For a second there I thought that was actually a blue post in this thread Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 241	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:38:00 - [8256] - Quote so can we start a new killboard when the 1.8 gets here?, i would really like more brotherhood between scouts, after all the best players are those scouts you see on the killboard with 30 kills and 5 deaths while using NK, or something like that. Dragons don't have friends. The nearest we can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2071	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:52:00 - [8257] - Quote At this rate, in roughly.. 28 days or so, this will be the most viewed thread of General as well as the most viewed thread on the Dust Forums. Inevitable, and awesome Edit- GG Shotty. That sounds like a CPM credential to me. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1521	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:53:00 - [8258] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Mother of God ^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1747102#post1747102 For a second there I thought that was actually a blue post in this thread Nah, we got the dampeners running on the thread, and then there is the cloak KRRROOOOOOM
mollerz Minja Scouts 2071	Posted - 2014.01.22 04:23:00 - [8259] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: So, you claim that you only have one fit with a flaylock. You only got one kill with the thing. (Minus a few stealth distance kills) And you are telling me, a person who has used this as a primary side for the past two months that the damage on the flaylock is borderline OP. Do see what I am trying to say? I only got one kill with it, because I suck at using it. I dont adjust to the travel time well. Meanwhile, there are folks such as (yourself?) who can reliably hit with the thing. The test of OPness is how the weapon does, with areasonably skilled user. You dont judge how powerful a Duvolle AR is, by dropping it in the hands of an Academy merc. (Gee, they died just as fast. Guess it isnt a particularly good weapon...) Or do you claim that you like using it, but you dont land many shots on target with it either? And that no-one else can, even when they've been using it for a long time? Seems like I can recall reading a few posts by people to the contrary on that. Go ahead. Say it with me. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Oswald Rehnquist 1140	Posted - 2014.01.22 04:48:00 - [8260] - Quote This is going to sound so backwards, considering 1.8 is going to really close the gap while getting so much of the content that I wanted, but I think I am going to miss being in a slightly under powered suit and the challenge that went with it, I've even switched to sidearms/support for quite some time now (and AV in 1.7) because it was a tougher fight. Now couple this with the fact that slayer logis are looking at scouts to see if they are going to be the next ez mode, it almost feels dirty. Below 28 dB

Llast 326 An Arkhos 1524	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:25:00 - [8261] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: This is going to sound so backwards, considering 1.8 is going to really close the gap while getting so much of the content that I wanted, but I think I am going to miss being in a slightly under powered suit and the challenge that went with it, I've even switched to sidearms/support for quite some time now (and AV in 1.7) because it was a tougher fight. Now couple this with the fact that slayer logis are looking at scouts to see if they are going to be the next ez mode, it almost feels dirty. I know what you meanGÇª That being said, we have not seen the real revamp on medium frames, assault might actually be good at assaulting. Also we have seen the Heavies those are looking to be some solid tank now. Cloak is going to bring a lot of people to scout frames looking for an EZ way, but I think the masses will disperse into a few roles if CCP did this right. KRRROOOOOOM
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4141	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:26:00 - [8262] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/forums/cloaks18.jpg \o/ Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1524	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:28:00 - [8263] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/forums/cloaks18.jpg \o/ You are my favourite logi KRRROOOOOOM
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 346	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:29:00 - [8264] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/forums/cloaks18.jpg \o/ You are my favourite logi Seconded. Scan profile reduction with cloaks. Bam.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1526	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:32:00 - [8265] - Quote No more spin scan Bam and BAM KRRROOOOOOM
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3089	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:40:00 - [8266] - Quote YES Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4106	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:50:00 - [8267] - Quote Those scanners new precision Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3090	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:52:00 - [8268] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Those scanners new precision Still be able to beat up to an adv passive. When your cloak is active you'll beat a proto scanner. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 808	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:53:00 - [8269] - Quote mollerz wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: So, you claim that you only have one fit with a flaylock. You only got one kill with the thing. (Minus a few stealth distance kills) And you are telling me, a person who has used this as a primary side for the past two months that the damage on the flaylock is borderline OP. Do see what I am trying to say? I only got one kill with it, because I suck at using it. I dont adjust to the travel time well. Meanwhile, there are folks such as (yourself?) who can reliably hit with the thing. The test of OPness is how the weapon does, with areasonably skilled user. You dont judge how powerful a Duvolle AR is, by dropping it in the hands of an Academy merc. (Gee, they died just as fast. Guess it isnt a particularly good weapon...) Or do you claim that you like using it, but you dont land many shots on target with it either? And that no-one else can, even when they've been using it for a long time? Seems like I can recall reading a few posts by people to the contrary on that. Go ahead. Say it with me. bookmarked for later use/ Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected]
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1528	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:55:00 - [8270] - Quote happy about scanner fixes at this point. KRRROOOOOOM

Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1067	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:00:00 - [8271] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: This is going to sound so backwards, considering 1.8 is going to really close the gap while getting so much of the content that I wanted, but I think I am going to miss being in a slightly under powered suit and the challenge that went with it, I've even switched to sidearms/support for quite some time now (and AV in 1.7) because it was a tougher fight. Now couple this with the fact that slayer logis are looking at scouts to see if they are going to be the next ez mode, it almost feels dirty. I fear this more than anything else. I will be very sad if we are no longer hard mode. I can deal with being the underdog, infact, I prefer it. I will probably even be OK if we are on even footing with the other frames - I will just use crappier gear. But if we are more advantaged, or (heaven forbid) OP I will be truly sad. I'm not sure how I'll be able to play, actually.... I just can't handle the thought of our craft being sullied by no-skill FOTM chasers or fit-crafting, AA-using, theory junkies looking for that extra edge. I don't mind being that guy that gets stomped half the time; as long as the other half I can be the dude that never gets hate mail for going 10/1 and beating the ever loving **** out of medium frames using a piece of crap standard scout suit and a militia pistol.... because to send hate mail would just be too damn embarrassing and a blatent admission of how skill-less you are.... I will miss being the underdog and having to be perfect just to have good game. I can feel what little hard-earned skills I have already starting to degrade.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 487	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:11:00 - [8272] - Quote I did the math for cloak fitting on proto scouts: A standard cloak will take 40 CPU and 8.75 PG on a proto scout. An adv cloak will be 57.75 CPU and 12.25 PG on proto scout. A proto cloak will be 82.5 CPU and 17.5 PG on a proto scout. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3091	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:13:00 - [8273] - Quote To add to marauders numbers: For every non gallente suit (profile of 35) with one complex dampener (-25%) will beat a non-gal logi focused scanner while cloaked (-25%). Their dampening comes out to 19.68 when cloak is active. You'll beat an ADV scanner at any level passively and when your cloak is active you'll beat a proto scanner without a damp. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Appia Nappia Nos Nothi 63	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:14:00 - [8274] - Quote check that number again, moody. 0.25 modifier is a 75% reduction Secretly Appa Vibbia
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 487	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:15:00 - [8275] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: check that number again, moody. 0.25 modifier is a 75% reduction are you sure..? 75% seems too OP tbh lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3091	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:16:00 - [8276] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: check that number again, moody. 0.25 modifier is a 75% reduction I assumed it was -25%. If it's a 75% reduction then it's... 6.56 but that doesn't seem right but i'll allow it. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 487	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:19:00 - [8277] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: check that number again, moody. 0.25 modifier is a 75% reduction I assumed it was -25%. If it's a 75% reduction then it's... 6.56 but that doesn't seem right but i'll allow it. :D "Cloaked Scan Profile Reduction" I assume that means whatever number is written means how much the profile is being reduced BY. So it would mean -25% of the suit's profile. Howeve it COULD also mean it is being reduced TO 25% of the suits profile.. Idk anymore :( GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 413	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:22:00 - [8278] - Quote Who here is under 36db? I am, I use basic Gallente scout with two enhanced damps, so your telling me without damps I can use just a cloak and beat scanners? I want a proto cloak and proto damps and proto Scout. Untraceable.:D Don't look him in the eye, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!!! I specialize in ridiculousness. Back off my Incubus.
Supra Advyn Nos Nothi 16	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:22:00 - [8279] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and whoever came up with akimbo as a descriptor is misleading considering its to put your hands or knuckles on your hips and point your elbows outwards usually in discontent. Appia Nappia wrote: [you saw nothing!] is he doing the time warp.... . . . . . . again!? aka Kahn
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 487	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:24:00 - [8280] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Who here is under 36db? I am, I use basic Gallente scout with two enhanced damps, so your telling me without damps I can use just a cloak and beat scanners? I want a proto cloak and proto damps and proto Scout. Untraceable.:D Actually you wouldn't need a proto cloak. Just a standard would suffice. Actually I would recommend a std. 30 sec of invisibility is pretty long. Not to mention you won't be able to shoot while cloaked. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY



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