interesting.

I suspect that is a bug in the way kill distance is reported, then.
(although I confess that was also how I was thinking I got SG'd to death from 8m)
Particularly when reporting distance when both target and attacker are in motion.
It's to do with lag in the round trip between attacker, server, and target, for "i killed you" messages.
Thats why we can suddenly fall down dead, AFTEr we get around a corner and are supposedly safe from fire.

way to test:

stand behind a sniper.
Measure range with readout from a sidearm.
get to 3m. swing with knife. (you will probably miss)
step closer, to 2m. swing with knife. (you will probably miss)

step closer, to RIGHT where it changes from 2m, to 1m. you will probably miss again, but maybe not


Other way to test: slowly walk forward until your knife crosshair turns red. In theory, this is the maximum distance you can be and still hit.
Switch to sidearm and check distance readout.

But probably the actual swing test is the better test.

No, if anything overcharge the blades!

You know, Scouts having two knives at once is kinda OP.

so i usually make fun of Ghost for running flaylock and knives but I double stacked kin cats and ran a GN with my Ishukones and actually did very well. I'd go in for the knife and if it didn't kill them I just cleaned up with the flaylock. If someone engaged me further out though I was screwed.

Very hard to kill someone who isn't a STD with just the flaylock but pretty fun.

IT'S SPREADING

But yeah, it's the king of quick alpha damage for sidearms. If someone survives the Knife, whip out the flay, shoot their feet and run. It's quick, and bloody efficient.

It lacks the range, but it's great in CQC. Run with RE's for maximum fun.

I loved how many times you kept getting that one shotgun scout. He was sloppy, he deserved it

Out of curiosity, since you didnt show the ISK summary screen: was this an ISK positive or negative battle for you?

I had a great game on communications against a team with a ton of a heavies and I would literally run circles around them doing flaylock bombing runs.

If they buffed the flaylock's damage output I'd actually run this combo for more than just the challenge.

I dislike flaylocks they're the type of projectile weapon I would miss with most of the time the speed is just in that spot I cannot comp for it. Its no mass driver or plasma cannon where I zero'd in on you within the second shot. Also constantly missing point blank engagements with them reminds me how woeful my projectile skills are.

Thought about that as well, it's why I went sniper hunting.

First test is what I did, then I replicated it on a two more snipers (admittedly in the same match but not a laggy match). It was 3m red each time and they died. Not sure if I missed any variables.

AcR is only slightly worse in CQC than an SMG, but has almost 3x the range. Thing's amazing. But 3 levels into CR dispersion and go to town.

Longest kill I have gotten is 2.17m. Ive missed swipes at 1m before. I think its a hitbox thing, NKs have a real hard time hitting scout suits. While heavys I bet you could hit from 4m out because they have such large hitboxes. What frame was the sniper wearing?

So what are some nova knifer fits you guys have run using gallente scouts (they are the only scout suits I have unlocked even with my 22 mill sp, 18 mill in dropsuit upgrades for the win.)

I'd prefer having both a std and advanced fit just depending on my mood. I also only invested into the adv NK (I'm trying to save up for 1.8....)

Emphasis on scan range and speed? OR buffer and speed? Shield extenders or sidearm damage mods?

Combat Kill, my target was aware I was in the area and shifted behaviors to try to counter me.



Don't have the cpu on this suit for any other grenade or a compact hive also don't need the hive as the supply depot usually two bars away.

Fluxes do not work like a flash bang and far to often have been excessively unreliable in stripping shields off infantry or wiping out a nests (I threw one in a nest on multiple occasions and nothing despite the animation playing over a couple dozen targets) at least the sleek locus works more effectively. There are far too many armor tankers on the field too making the flux half as useful which is why I probably have not seen hostiles using the grenade in over three months.

and no I am not going to specialize, right now saving about 2.3 million sp for the new suits, but I think Ill need a bit more for the new guns as well to be on the same level as everything else I have. Also if I cannot perform well enough at this level, that would make advanced or proto levels wasted isk.

Speed & then some more speed :)

You can fit x4 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers on a Gallente Scout mk.0 making it the fastest in the game.

So what are some nova knifer fits you guys have run using gallente scouts (they are the only scout suits I have unlocked even with my 22 mill sp, 18 mill in dropsuit upgrades for the win.)

I'd prefer having both a std and advanced fit just depending on my mood. I also only invested into the adv NK (I'm trying to save up for 1.8....)

Emphasis on scan range and speed? OR buffer and speed? Shield extenders or sidearm damage mods?

First test is what I did, then I replicated it on a two more snipers (admittedly in the same match but not a laggy match). It was 3m red each time and they died. Not sure if I missed any variables.

So what are some nova knifer fits you guys have run using gallente scouts (they are the only scout suits I have unlocked even with my 22 mill sp, 18 mill in dropsuit upgrades for the win.)

I'd prefer having both a std and advanced fit just depending on my mood. I also only invested into the adv NK (I'm trying to save up for 1.8....)

Emphasis on scan range and speed? OR buffer and speed? Shield extenders or sidearm damage mods?

I think it needs to be said that ZNs are only viable if your knifing skills as well as M scout skills are maxed out. Otherwise you have to use IshNoks.

I'm maxed out and notice the huge difference in TTK between the two when it comes to slashing. I couldn't imagine without the bonuses.

IT'S SPREADING

But yeah, it's the king of quick alpha damage for sidearms. If someone survives the Knife, whip out the flay, shoot their feet and run. It's quick, and bloody efficient.

It lacks the range, but it's great in CQC. Run with RE's for maximum fun.

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Sidearm Scouts

The Ion Pistol will have a charged shot for alpha hits
Aeon's thread o' "leaks"

Sidearm Scouts

The Ion Pistol will have a charged shot for alpha hits
Aeon's thread o' "leaks"

Though from the sounds of the description, you better hope that charged shot hits or you're stuck with an overheated weapon and a displeased red.