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mr musturd wrote:

Llast 326 wrote:

mr musturd wrote:

Quil Evrything wrote:

Llast 326 wrote:

SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK.

Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1.
So should be difference of 4m range?

Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5

Not one to refute mustard in regards to NK, but here is how I found this info.
When the "fixed" knives last time I had a few knife fights with a Geisha corp Minja. She dropped me the first two times at 3mGÇª and I was Shocked

The next time we crossed paths in the match I got her. Next time I found a sniper i checked the rangeGÇª i was 3m and doing damage enough to drop a Med suit sniping. It may not be optimal damage but it does at least 700 dmg charged with Advanced.
I suspected it was part of how they changed the arc, or whatever they did to fix detection.

Ill test again tonight but like I said when I run my knife only fit the max I've gotten is 1.7, ill get back tonight or tomorrow with the results

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Llast 326 An Arkhos 1383	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:52:00 - [7351] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty OkayGÇª I am not really the one to question this (NK and Flaylock is my favourite combo) but NK and Shotty Well it seems to be working for you KRRROOOOOOM
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12146	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:54:00 - [7352] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty OkayGÇª I am not really the one to question this (NK and Flaylock is my favourite combo) but NK and Shotty Well it seems to be working for you Nk if it first, if it survived and starts running away shotty it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2948	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:00:00 - [7353] - Quote Personally, I think scouts could keep everything they have right now and just add a second equipment slot. Bam insta buff!!! Best of luck in getting your buff, I will be voting for you guys o7 best of luck to the skinny cousin of the commando Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1384	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:01:00 - [7354] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty OkayGÇª I am not really the one to question this (NK and Flaylock is my favourite combo) but NK and Shotty Well it seems to be working for you Nk if it first, if it survived and starts running away shotty it. Backpeddle counter nice Use the FL the same way, it has more range than the SG, and has the added Flaylock This guy is ballsy or an idiot effect. SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. if you nicked them, you don't need to be in effective range so that would work. Blue shield thoughGÇª if he gets back beyond 5m on you, it's a bit more of a fight. KRRROOOOOOM
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 742	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:03:00 - [7355] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1384	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:07:00 - [7356] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? I've said to much KRRROOOOOOM
Kodho R 0 N 1 N 34	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:07:00 - [7357] - Quote I watched through my sniper scope pseudosnipre camp an enemy objective last night (Iron Delta , D). They kept coming at him and he flat out waxed them. I think he went 26 and 5. Quite impressive to watch! Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1022	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:13:00 - [7358] - Quote I decided to play hookey today and had some good morning games with Moody and the New Age Outlaws. Thanks for the invite, guys. Lots of fools with nova knives out there.... definitely a few skilled knifers, but a lot of dudes in standard scout and milita suits getting cut down. And we had to hold off a team protobears in one match... I swear, sometimes I think some of the big corps aren't looking for a challenge....
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 283	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:15:00 - [7359] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 743	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:24:00 - [7360] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5 that's what I thought. So since SG maximal effective range is 4.9, that makes difference of 3(ish). And it still does damage outside ofthat. I've gotten killed by sg at 8m plenty of times it just does a lot less damage.

Llast 326 An Arkhos 1384	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:26:00 - [7361] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5 Not one to refute mustard in regards to NK, but here is how I found this info. When the "fixed" knives last time I had a few knife fights with a Geisha corp Minja. She dropped me the first two times at 3mGÇª and I was The next time we crossed paths in the match I got her. Next time I found a sniper i checked the rangeGÇª i was 3m and doing damage enough to drop a Med suit sniping. It may not be optimal damage but it does at least 700 dmg charged with Advanced. I suspected it was part of how they changed the arc, or whatever they did to fix detection. KRRROOOOOOM
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 287	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:31:00 - [7362] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: mr musturd wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5 Not one to refute mustard in regards to NK, but here is how I found this info. When the "fixed" knives last time I had a few knife fights with a Geisha corp Minja. She dropped me the first two times at 3mGÇª and I was The next time we crossed paths in the match I got her. Next time I found a sniper i checked the rangeGÇª i was 3m and doing damage enough to drop a Med suit sniping. It may not be optimal damage but it does at least 700 dmg charged with Advanced. I suspected it was part of how they changed the arc, or whatever they did to fix detection. Ill test again tonight but like I said when I run my knife only fit the max I've gotten is 1.7, ill get back tonight or tomorrow with the results
Onesimus Tarsus 840	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:31:00 - [7363] - Quote Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 287	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:34:00 - [7364] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. No
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1913	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:34:00 - [7365] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. Calm down Satan. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Onesimus Tarsus 840	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:34:00 - [7366] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. No Yes. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
Onesimus Tarsus 840	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:35:00 - [7367] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. Calm down Satan. My heart rate never went above 80 I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 287	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:36:00 - [7368] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: mr musturd wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. No Yes. No
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 743	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:36:00 - [7369] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Not one to refute mustard in regards to NK, but here is how I found this info. When the "fixed" knives last time I had a few knife fights with a Geisha corp Minja. She dropped me the first two times at 3mGÇª and I was The next time we crossed paths in the match I got her. Next time I found a sniper i checked the rangeGÇª i was 3m and doing damage enough to drop a Med suit sniping. It may not be optimal damage but it does at least 700 dmg charged with Advanced. I suspected it was part of how they changed the arc, or whatever they did to fix detection. interesting. I suspect that is a bug in the way kill distance is reported, then. (although I confess that was also how I was thinking I got SG'd to death from 8m) Particularly when reporting distance when both target and attacker are in motion. It's to do with lag in the round trip between attacker, server, and target, for "i killed you" messages. Thats why we can suddenly fall down dead, AFTEr we get around a corner and are supposedly safe from fire. Proper way to test: stand behind a sniper. Measure range with readout from a sidearm. get to 3m. swing with knife. (you will probably miss) step closer, to 2m. swing with knife. (you will probably miss) step closer, to RIGHT where it changes from 2m, to 1m. you will probably miss again, but maybe not Other way to test: slowly walk forward until your knife crosshair turns red. In theory, this is the maximum distance you can be and still hit. Switch to sidearm and check distance readout. But probably the actual swing test is the better test.
Onesimus Tarsus 840	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:36:00 - [7370] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: mr musturd wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. No Yes. No ok. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.

mollerz Minja Scouts 1887	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:38:00 - [7371] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. Calm down Satan. My heart rate never went above 80 You need to exercise more. I only get to 80 after some red jar. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
pseudosnipre 530	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:38:00 - [7372] - Quote I ran SG and SMG in chromosome and through 1.6, but then I reached 20,000 kills and decided to change to CR. A week ago I put SP into NK and I've learned that: CR > SMG NK > SG If I'm already 4m away, I can close the extra couple meters in a split second. NK swing arc connects WAY more reliably than SG circle reticle. And, the best part, NK has more dps. So basically I upgraded to better weaponry in 1.7 and didn't have to change my playstyle much at all. Just sayin' Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1385	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:40:00 - [7373] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Llast 326 wrote: mr musturd wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Llast 326 wrote: SG difference in effective range is only 2 meters from the NK. Err.. are you claiming NK range is 3 meters??? Seems a whole lot shorter than that. more like 1. So should be difference of 4m range? Range is 1.5m I've tested on an installation but I've gotten kills up to 1.7m but to be safe I say around 1.5 Not one to refute mustard in regards to NK, but here is how I found this info. When the "fixed" knives last time I had a few knife fights with a Geisha corp Minja. She dropped me the first two times at 3mGÇª and I was The next time we crossed paths in the match I got her. Next time I found a sniper i checked the rangeGÇª i was 3m and doing damage enough to drop a Med suit sniping. It may not be optimal damage but it does at least 700 dmg charged with Advanced. I suspected it was part of how they changed the arc, or whatever they did to fix detection. Ill test again tonight but like I said when I run my knife only fit the max I've gotten is 1.7, ill get back tonight or tomorrow with the results Awesome When the Geisha dropped me the first time i thought it a fluke range thing, but it was exactly the same the second timeGÇª this is what made me question the range.Honestly, I thought this was one of those secrets that was just not talked about by blade masters like you. And i stumbled on it. Was your last test before the last changes or after? KRRROOOOOOM
Onesimus Tarsus 841	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:40:00 - [7374] - Quote Proto drop uplinks should be able to defend themselves. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1914	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:41:00 - [7375] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Proto drop uplinks should be able to defend themselves. They could beat a scout then. Fun fact: Proto uplinks have more eHP than your average scout Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1888	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:43:00 - [7376] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty What's a combat kill? You need to get flux nades on your suit. flux nades are the flahs bangs of dust and can be used that way. a compact nano hive is good too. Start specializing dude. Your omni quest is ******* you up. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Scout Registry 547	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:44:00 - [7377] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: I ran SG and SMG in chromosome and through 1.6, but then I reached 20,000 kills and decided to change to CR. A week ago I put SP into NK and I've learned that: CR > SMG NK > SG If I'm already 4m away, I can close the extra couple meters in a split second. NK swing arc connects WAY more reliably than SG circle reticle. And, the best part, NK has more dps. So basically I upgraded to better weaponry in 1.7 and didn't have to change my playstyle much at all. Just sayin' Similar observations, though using Rail Rifle. Congrats on your 20,000th, btw. o7 scouts say no to quid pro quo
mollerz Minja Scouts 1888	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:44:00 - [7378] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty OkayGÇª I am not really the one to question this (NK and Flaylock is my favourite combo) but NK and Shotty Well it seems to be working for you Nk if it first, if it survived and starts running away shotty it. CR is better in more situations. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1914	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:48:00 - [7379] - Quote mollerz wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Went 9 and 0 knives claiming 7 of the kills all combat targets, got my groove back. Valor BPO Side Up Enhanced Damp Sensor Range Booster No Grenade (not enough cpu for that or the enhanced damp) Adv Nova Knives Dren Shotty OkayGÇª I am not really the one to question this (NK and Flaylock is my favourite combo) but NK and Shotty Well it seems to be working for you Nk if it first, if it survived and starts running away shotty it. CR is better in more situations. AcR is only slightly worse in CQC than an SMG, but has almost 3x the range. Thing's amazing. But 3 levels into CR dispersion and go to town. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12150	Posted - 2014.01.15 21:52:00 - [7380] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Nova Knives should come in ammo pools of 16, be throwable and retrievable, and have splash damage on successful impact. No, if anything overcharge the blades! CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked



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