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Ridire Greine wrote:

IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:

^ heh stranger things have happened. Plus at least then you know you ruled something out if it didn't fix it.

So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder.

Also suspect I forgot some scout tactics and made bad engagement choices....or it could be it's only Thursday and the try-hards are still around capping.

Nvm - try try again.

[Edit]

Actually it wasn't all fail - headshot OHK in one Ambush ----- CLANGGGG :D <----- why I love the Scramber pistol

For 1on1 NKs fights I would say you're better off running, but there are players out there that I've seen pull it off against Meds, but they're very experienced Knifers. If you feel you must fight them, then charge and jump at them (Do a running jump), try jump to their side and rotate your view accordingly, so you're not jumping right into their gun.

If you dont want to 1v1 them, run, and hide around a corner (Make sure its not near an installation, or objective, those things can scan you, they have a Precision of 0db), charge your knives, and pop out and knife them just as they're about to turn the corner. Ishukone should one kill them, depending on their buffer, ZN-28s might take two swipes.

Its also important you learn the maps inside out, for those quick getaways, so hop into an Oceania server, and just adventure around each facility, finding useful areas, and shortcuts.

Its what I done for about a week, and I found a way up to an area in my Scout suit, that was only accessible via Dropship, until I found out how to do it using 1337 parkour skills.

Lol

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Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 743	Posted - 2013.11.21 19:23:00 - [4171] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Got the damn thing to sign in! **** yeah Im on the proper account now! This is the character I've been meaning to get added to the scout board. Now the issue with those likes...32 of them are on the wrong account, nuuuu! Only 31 to go, dude.....
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2347	Posted - 2013.11.21 19:59:00 - [4172] - Quote Terrible lag today. Every match I've played. Smooth sailing up until I get close to someone, then frame rate plummets. Nothing new or different on my end. Observation: Reinstalling Dust does not address framerate drop.
Ridire Greine 37	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:09:00 - [4173] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Terrible lag today. Every match I've played. Smooth sailing up until I get close to someone, then frame rate plummets. Nothing new or different on my end. Observation: Reinstalling Dust does not address framerate drop. Yep, already reinstalled, no good, but it fixed the problem where DUST would crash my PS3. The lag usually wears off on Saturday. Oh, and I'll just leave this here; superjoe360x wrote: A scout with nova knives huh. Its no wonder you get beat down. Plus you said I just run a Boundless so I proved to you that I can run other things but then you degrade me still. What am I supposed to run to impress you then. Nova Knives also. Im not stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight. You are one of the reasons why my squad thinks they should give an IQ test before your allowed to play Dust. Perhaps us Nova Knifers need to show this guy what an experienced Nova Knifer can do? Property of Knight SoiaireGäó R 0 N 1 N
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1756	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:24:00 - [4174] - Quote So after asking my question yesterday about whether it's better to run 2 x card regs, 2 x kin cats or a mix, I decided not to be lazy and do something productive instead of work when in the office earlier. So, I made some fun spreadsheets! Here are my findings :) It is never more effective to use 2 x card regs on any suit for running distances 700m or less (I didn't bother going further than that because that's pretty much the length of most maps from D to E). It is usually better to run 2 x kin cats but it does depend on the level and distance intended to run. With MLT or STD biotics there's barely a difference for gallente scouts between using 2 x kin cats or one of each but for minmatar scouts it's better to use one of each by nearly half a second. For longer distances it is generally better to use 2 x kin cats for either race up to 700m except when travelling around 500m when it becomes better to use one of each. This is due to running down your stamina fully for the 2nd time over this distance. With ADV biotics it becomes a bit more of a mixed bag; gallente scouts benefit most from one of each beyond 500m and around 300m but 2 x kin cats is best around 400m and less than 200m. For minmatars it's better to use 2 x kin cats up to 500m except for around the 300m mark but from 600m it becomes more effective to use one of each. Proto is where it becomes more interesting though because I'm sure that's the level that most scouts are at; gallente are only more effective with one of each at around 300m but anything more and kin cats are better. Minmatar are better off with one of each between 300m and 400m but shorter or longer distances are better served using 2 x kin cats. I also checked some combinations of pro and adv gear for this but there isn't really any point in doing this instead of simply running 2 x kin cats. That said, there is a funny little anomaly with using an ADV card reg and PRO kin cat where it's actually faster to run 600m than using PRO of any combination. The reason for this is that PRO card regs are a little different to the lower level ones: at PRO you get 200% on both stamina and regen, which results in depletion - full regen time take 11 seconds; at lower levels the regen buff is larger than the stamina buff, so you get back to full stamina much quicker. An interesting sidenote but ultimately superceded by the generally better combo of 2 x kin cats. Note - my techniques for these calculations assume full sprinting until total stamina depletion and waiting for full regen before sprinting again. These results assume flat ground with full ground contact at all times, no jumping or stopping and running in a single straight line. For anyone interested here's a link to my spreadsheet folder but the sheets aren't entirely obvious to understand and I can't really be bothered to tidy them up heh. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 359	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:24:00 - [4175] - Quote I love how you guys think re installing will help :D Makes me lol Its like that age old wisdom of just "restart" and it will usually fix itself. Also someone please go explain this math better if I left something out. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122266&p=3 PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 140	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:29:00 - [4176] - Quote ^ heh stranger things have happened. Plus at least then you know you ruled something out if it didn't fix it. So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder. Also suspect I forgot some scout tactics and made bad engagement choices....or it could be it's only Thursday and the try-hards are still around capping. Nvm - try try again. [Edit] Actually it wasn't all fail - headshot OHK in one Ambush ----- CLANGGGG :D <----- why I love the Scramber pistol
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1790	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:36:00 - [4177] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: ^ heh stranger things have happened. Plus at least then you know you ruled something out if it didn't fix it. So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder. Also suspect I forgot some scout tactics and made bad engagement choices....or it could be it's only Thursday and the try-hards are still around capping. Nvm - try try again. [Edit] Actually it wasn't all fail - headshot OHK in one Ambush ----- CLANGGGG :D Knives in a face to face confrontation aren't recommended unless that guy is really close. Unload your pistol at the hip in close range while weaving in and out of cover. Most AR users will just spray the entire time, emptying their clip. If it's a logi he has to reload, that is your opportunity to rush them but you only have 2 seconds or so. If they have a side arm you have to try to close the distance before they can take aim. Also I've found that a surprise slash then a hop back to fill them full of rounds works well. While you're still getting the hang of it try to only engage people who are already fighting someone else. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Ridire Greine 38	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:44:00 - [4178] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: ^ heh stranger things have happened. Plus at least then you know you ruled something out if it didn't fix it. So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder. Also suspect I forgot some scout tactics and made bad engagement choices....or it could be it's only Thursday and the try-hards are still around capping. Nvm - try try again. [Edit] Actually it wasn't all fail - headshot OHK in one Ambush ----- CLANGGGG :D <----- why I love the Scramber pistol For 1on1 NKs fights I would say you're better off running, but there are players out there that I've seen pull it off against Meds, but they're very experienced Knifers. If you feel you must fight them, then charge and jump at them (Do a running jump), try jump to their side and rotate your view accordingly, so you're not jumping right into their gun. If you dont want to 1v1 them, run, and hide around a corner (Make sure its not near an installation, or objective, those things can scan you, they have a Precision of 0db), charge your knives, and pop out and knife them just as they're about to turn the corner. Ishukone should one kill them, depending on their buffer, ZN-28s might take two swipes. Its also important you learn the maps inside out, for those quick getaways, so hop into an Oceania server, and just adventure around each facility, finding useful areas, and shortcuts. Its what I done for about a week, and I found a way up to an area in my Scout suit, that was only accessible via Dropship, until I found out how to do it using 1337 parkour skills. Property of Knight SoiaireGäó R 0 N 1 N
Samantha Hunyz Clones Of The Damned 20	Posted - 2013.11.21 21:05:00 - [4179] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: ^ heh stranger things have happened. Plus at least then you know you ruled something out if it didn't fix it. So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder. Also suspect I forgot some scout tactics and made bad engagement choices....or it could be it's only Thursday and the try-hards are still around capping. Nvm - try try again. [Edit] Actually it wasn't all fail - headshot OHK in one Ambush ----- CLANGGGG :D <----- why I love the Scramber pistol For 1on1 NKs fights I would say you're better off running, but there are players out there that I've seen pull it off against Meds, but they're very experienced Knifers. If you feel you must fight them, then charge and jump at them (Do a running jump), try jump to their side and rotate your view accordingly, so you're not jumping right into their gun. If you dont want to 1v1 them, run, and hide around a corner (Make sure its not near an installation, or objective, those things can scan you, they have a Precision of 0db), charge your knives, and pop out and knife them just as they're about to turn the corner. Ishukone should one kill them, depending on their buffer, ZN-28s might take two swipes. Its also important you learn the maps inside out, for those quick getaways, so hop into an Oceania server, and just adventure around each facility, finding useful areas, and shortcuts. Its what I done for about a week, and I found a way up to an area in my Scout suit, that was only accessible via Dropship, until I found out how to do it using 1337 parkour skills. Haha, I use parkour to get to spots to snipe from, some of them put me within light weapon and even sidearm range (minus knives). Don't give away those spots please. When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 413	Posted - 2013.11.21 21:08:00 - [4180] - Quote Koan Zalinto wrote: I honestly would beat a target to death with a rock if i could. What would be awesome is a disarming mechanic for scouts if they get in melee range. Or.. Oooooooo... EWarfare, Mass Effect style:... weapon overheat biotics!! Duvolle user: "Muahaha puny scout, I have you now, I.." (click). (click). "WTH?!?!?????!!11111111"

Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 413	Posted - 2013.11.21 21:13:00 - [4181] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: So I tried the new fit out - scrambler pistol + knives. Fail. Will try again tomorrow, and refuse to be disheartened. I haven't figured out how the hell to use knives properly yet - sneaking up on ppl is easy kills, but in a battle with someone? Hmmm.....I really missed my shotty. Must...try...harder. Yus, try harder. Specifically, you MUST have at least level 3, and KLO pistol, or your experience will be... unsatisfying, for the most part.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.11.21 21:34:00 - [4182] - Quote I'm bored anyone doing anything that is fun or interesting. (including outside of the game) Silent you must be Or die you will From brother scout a kind message
Cass Caul 359	Posted - 2013.11.21 22:03:00 - [4183] - Quote I've been catching up on all the movies I said I wanted to see but never did, since 2011. been afk in caldari mcc to get SP while I did it too +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
Foxbat 071 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 36	Posted - 2013.11.22 00:28:00 - [4184] - Quote What would you guys think if we got a buff to our scan range and precision? Say, buff our base range to 30-40 meters and scan precision to 35-40. Pretty much make us walking scanners. The 6 meter buff was nice, but in order to attain effective passive scan, we use up most of our precious CPU/PG. *BLAP* ( X ) Call For Help ( O ) Respawn
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 5	Posted - 2013.11.22 00:32:00 - [4185] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Got the damn thing to sign in! **** yeah Im on the proper account now! This is the character I've been meaning to get added to the scout board. Now the issue with those likes...32 of them are on the wrong account, nuuuu! You're already in ... 2726 - Ivy Zalinto (602, 0.02) Thankya much!
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. 634	Posted - 2013.11.22 00:40:00 - [4186] - Quote lol has anyone ever ever noticed that its usually easy to kill a heavy, even proto, because they are so cocky expecting an easy scout kill, or for some odd reason they just stand completely still and shoot at you? kinda random, but i've been noticing this more so than ever lately. *tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Jak'Saan Edge Regiment 112	Posted - 2013.11.22 01:03:00 - [4187] - Quote OP, just realized I'm not on the registry. Mind adding me?
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 456	Posted - 2013.11.22 01:19:00 - [4188] - Quote Foxbat 071 wrote: What would you guys think if we got a buff to our scan range and precision? Say, buff our base range to 30-40 meters and scan precision to 35-40. Pretty much make us walking scanners. The 6 meter buff was nice, but in order to attain effective passive scan, we use up most of our precious CPU/PG. I said this when they announced the slight buff. We should be able to see enemies and avoid encounters and engage most of the time on our terms. That should be our defense. At the moment you can still get blips outside of the range but they fade out quickly. Also the inability to sometimes not even see past light cover and then other times pick up enemies through solid walls is very strange.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 510	Posted - 2013.11.22 01:20:00 - [4189] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: lol has anyone ever ever noticed that its usually easy to kill a heavy, even proto, because they are so cocky expecting an easy scout kill, or for some odd reason they just stand completely still and shoot at you? kinda random, but i've been noticing this more so than ever lately. Lol I cqced two at once who had forge guns and only one had a side arm. Used basic NK, and Basic Scrambler pistol, finished with no amp at all Last night i dropped one with NK and finishing shot from a Flaylock Some are harder to drop though, Preston 2 D 2GÇª I can't get him at all, cagy fellow who has more situational awareness than most any heavy, oh and Lo0ny BeAns (spelling) is brutal as well. I am apparently not the only fool
Llast 326 An Arkhos 510	Posted - 2013.11.22 01:23:00 - [4190] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Foxbat 071 wrote: What would you guys think if we got a buff to our scan range and precision? Say, buff our base range to 30-40 meters and scan precision to 35-40. Pretty much make us walking scanners. The 6 meter buff was nice, but in order to attain effective passive scan, we use up most of our precious CPU/PG. I said this when they announced the slight buff. We should be able to see enemies and avoid encounters and engage most of the time on our terms. That should be our defense. At the moment you can still get blips outside of the range but they fade out quickly. Also the inability to sometimes not even see past light cover and then other times pick up enemies through solid walls is very strange. What if as scouts we had a longer linger effect for visual contact than the other suits? Something similar to an active scanner for duration? Throwing it out here I am apparently not the only fool

Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 918	Posted - 2013.11.22 01:42:00 - [4191] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: OP, just realized I'm not on the registry. Mind adding me? Don't worry, this OP actually delivers. (Actually, he doesn't deliver, he just harasses people on the phone for a living ) "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 360	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:17:00 - [4192] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: lol has anyone ever ever noticed that its usually easy to kill a heavy, even proto, because they are so cocky expecting an easy scout kill, or for some odd reason they just stand completely still and shoot at you? kinda random, but i've been noticing this more so than ever lately. I think most of it is the fact they can't speed strafe....I also think their hit box is larger, so easier to get headshots as well as shots on target. Lastly, their lmg has laser like accuracy, so all the bob an weave makes it difficult to hit a scout. A heavy with an AR is more dangerous. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2287	Posted - 2013.11.22 06:55:00 - [4193] - Quote that moment when you knife 6 guys one after the other, ah I love my blades. Now I just need to be faster. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Llast 326 An Arkhos 514	Posted - 2013.11.22 07:23:00 - [4194] - Quote Just had a match on my alt, where i killed a heavy with knives. he respawned and found meGÇª and had knives out I Nova knife dueled a heavyGÇª He put up a good fight, but just not maneuverable enough to deal with Minja speed. Impressed with seeing this though I am apparently not the only fool
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 5	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:19:00 - [4195] - Quote Range amplification 5 coming up in a weeks time...Might as well capitalize on one of the few advantages i have right? Then either plasma cannon to 5 and into prof or scan efficiency i suppose.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 5	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:42:00 - [4196] - Quote So....Stole someones railgun tank about halfway through a match...went 15 and two and killed the same guy who brought out a second tank, destroying his tank with his tank....tankception!
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 736	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:46:00 - [4197] - Quote I wish there was a way for scouts to assassinate a tank driver while they are still in the tank. Would make scouting so much fun when they finally allow us to keep what we steal. !
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1796	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:51:00 - [4198] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: lol has anyone ever ever noticed that its usually easy to kill a heavy, even proto, because they are so cocky expecting an easy scout kill, or for some odd reason they just stand completely still and shoot at you? kinda random, but i've been noticing this more so than ever lately. I managed to kill a heavy who tried to ride up on me in his LLAV and HMG with my pistol and knives. I immediately drove his logi lav into the redline. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 457	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:56:00 - [4199] - Quote I like to hack them and then leave them there as bait to pick off opportunists wanting a free vehicle
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1261	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:59:00 - [4200] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: that moment when you knife 6 guys one after the other, ah I love my blades. Now I just need to be faster. That moment when you knife 6 guys one after the other and realize that all of your slashes registered Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND



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