Hi Rattati,

If I fit 4 militia drop uplinks, I can only have one uplink active at a time, right? Should I not be able to have 4 active uplinks at the same time since I'm expending 4 slots? Maybe something to consider as part of the Amarr bonus, or all round?

Its never worked like that. The "Max Deployed" number for a piece of equipment is exactly that, you can only have that many of that particular item deployed, regardless of how many you are carrying.

Hit me up in game or on SA/IRC if you want coaching in how to properly spam equipment.

Why move the precision bonus to amarr? I mean, what does that accomplish?

Not to mention, an amarr scout can use precisions and still keep their tank. There should be a tradeoff. If you're going to give it to someone, give it to a suit where most of their tank is on the high slot side..like the minmatar.

Why move the precision bonus to amarr? I mean, what does that accomplish?

Not to mention, an amarr scout can use precisions and still keep their tank. There should be a tradeoff. If you're going to give it to someone, give it to a suit where most of their tank is on the high slot side..like the minmatar.

Because precision and range on Cal scouts was too strong. Amarr scouts had a terrible bonus.

Precision is good on Amarr because they can only fit 2 precision enhancers preventing their scans from being OP. Whilst they can fit armor with their precision mods they will be more effective capitalising on their scanning advantage by fitting range amps. Not to mention the ever important profile dampeners and kincats.

Range on Cal scouts is still a powerful bonus. It is true that they will probably be stacking shields but with all those highs they do have the option of precise scans if they are willing to commit lots of slots. I suspect some may take the bonus change badly since many will feel their role is changing from scout hunter to scanner which was not why they originally skilled into it. As I said before though, with 4 highs they can get quite good precision.

These changes also help Minmatar scouts who were marginalised in competitive environments by the OP Cal scans.

Hp stacking scouts is likely to always be a thing amongst some players. The main reason this is a problem is because assaults are poor in comparison. Hopefully the charlie assault changes will fix this and many "slayers" will migrate.

The important thing to remember is that this is a minor nerf to Cal scouts, who are currently the main culprit of FOTM slayer assault-scouts (after Gal scouts got a significant nerf in alpha). It is also a very small nerf to Gal scouts and a buff to Amarr scouts, who everybody agreed were poor in comparison to the others. However the Amarr scout bonus will not be as strong as the current Cal scout bonus and nowhere near as powerful as the pre-alpha Gal scout bonus.

he probably don't want to skill into a fotm that will most likely suffer another nerf and it cost more(i believe)

You guys make it seem like the suits actually do the shooting lol. Why wouldn't the amarr suit be as strong as the cal scout suit after this bonus?

Also...the precision on amarr is horribad because you shouldnt' be able to use modules to enhance your bonus without giving up something. On Caldari, it's ideal because most of our tank comes from shields. So, it slows cal scouts from using enhancers because it makes the suit gimpy. An amarr gets most of its tank from low slots so they can stack double enhancers (which will be more than enough) and still have most of their health.

I remember the benefit from using a min logi suit before because you could stack damage mods and still stack armor to give you over 700hp of health. You shouldn't be able to do that...it should be a give and a take.

* Reduce Sentinel PG/CPU.

The only problem I see with your list is the WP for getting an Orbital Bombardment.

The matches just don't last long enough...I feel like the Ambush matches clone amount should be doubled.

Well, as of now, a Min Sentinel built for speed, which is the Min way of doing things, are pretty maxed on PG, so I hope the PG cost will be lowered for the Kincats... I dont want to loose my speedy Min Heavy. =/

Would restocking equipment in a supply depot in any way aid spamming equipment, considering that there's a hard limit per type and changing suits restocks anyway?

Because it's quite obnoxious to have no direct restocking at a supply depot, when your fitting is a Commando with a compact nanohive.

I've been reading a lot of comments about cross racial bonuses. This isn't an inherently bad idea, but if we really want to do that, I think it would be best to go all out and make a type I and type II suit otherwise you're just falltening the diversity in all logi suits, and when that happens we revert back to early Uprising when logi suits did not have equipment based bonuses. The community finds the most combat capable suit and spams it ad naseum. I feel like that is a step back more than a step forward.

Well, as of now, a Min Sentinel built for speed, which is the Min way of doing things, are pretty maxed on PG, so I hope the PG cost will be lowered for the Kincats... I dont want to loose my speedy Min Heavy. =/

I don't think it's absolutely necessary that Logistics need that much diversity. It's a role and each race has it's specialization, some are better than others. Sure, flat-lining them does sound bad at first but overall it's what we've done with everything else (all Sentinels have a defensive bonus toward different intended weapon types, as an example) and I don't feel that Logistics deserve some kind of special treatment.

Logistics are a support class, their entire role centralizes around supporting their team, so the inevitable question that I have toward all of this hoopla about the sidearms is: Why is the sidearm essential to the Logistics' role?

I don't feel that saying that you have nothing to do when you're done dropping your nanohives/drop-uplinks is a good excuse to have an additional offensive option. All that tells me is that you're either doing a really good job of supporting your team or are doing a poor job of supporting your team because you don't want to use the options available for your intended role.

The entire premise of having combat capable Logi's just defies logic to me. I don't understand why it is so imperative that Logistics must be combat effective in order to be a viable choice on the battlefield when you can take the time to walk over to a supply depot and change out. I've asked this question to players on Skype and the answer was that "It takes too long"... Using that logic, why should I have to go to a supply depot to grab an AV fit when a tank enters the field and the battle circumstances change?

And sure, you can argue that if we give cross racial bonuses (although I never insinuated that all Logistics would get bonuses to all equipment) to the Logistics, players will naturally align to whichever one has the most EHP, but that's usually been the case with every suit and it's not isolated to just the Logistics. Cross racial bonuses benefit more toward a support role, which is what the Logistics is designed towards. That has no effect on how they balance out in the end and it's a largely separate issue. Different suits will be better at different things; some more than others.

As far as the sidearms and having two combat logistics? I hate the idea solely because I know for a fact that it's probably going to be used in the exact manner that you're using as an argument against cross racial bonuses. Players will align naturally to the most combat effective suit there is and tossing a sidearm arbitrarily on two of the Logistics because players have nothing else to do when they're done supporting their team seems like it's doing just that.

The only way I see that it could work is if those two 'combat Logis' sacrificed something in order to gain those sidearms and I don't think a single equipment slot on the Cal Logi is enough. It comes off as wanting the Logistics to be good at everything. The only reason it ever worked on the Amarr Logistics is because it's slower than the rest of the Logistics on top of having one less equipment slot. But again, I don't see how this benefits their chosen role in any way.

Need fix for vehicle collision damage!