Every single FPS game that I have played has a vehicle free TDM. I see no reason why DUST 514 should not have it. I am fine with vehicles moving to Dom and Skirm because they are objective based.

They are also long.....and quite usually much more costly compared to Ambush . Completely taking away the only quick option for Vehicle and AV troopers is a bad BAD idea. The Ambush OMS separation was working fine. There are times I have 30 mins to play ....which is enough for three Ambushes to make some cash rather than one Ski/Dom to make much less.

If vehicles are not entitled to be in every mode...

Can AV be banned in skirmish?

If vehicle pilots can't kill infantry in ambush, then it's only fair that infantry (AV) can't kill vehicles in a different game mode. Simple

WE DON'T WANT MORE EQUIPMENT AND MODULE SLOTS. We want our god damn Side Arm. You are CPM. You are supposed to support the masses whether you agree or not. Fight for us and not your warped sense of appealing to CCP.

You don't play. You know what. Look up my monthly numbers already. Look where I am at. I play 65% AV right now so the lack of kills is from redrats jumping out of drop ships I shoot down. I run A-Logi a lot and get WP for my fast uplinks thus high WP.

I have tons of WP from completely legitimate playing. I got over 5k WP today from forging and swarming vehicles and some uplinks. 2nd place was Southpac at almost 5k. 3rd place was about 1300 wp. We had top kills as well. We had great KDR. We push to be the best players we can be no matter how terrible our blueberries are. You should not be arguing with a player that puts this much AUR, Time, and effort into this game. Maybe CCP Ratatti can post the hours I play. Yes, I currently have no life while trying to save money but that fully justifies why players like myself and others who put in the hours should be listened to and supported.

All of the logis are fine. The speed nerf is a maybe for me. Fine, just don't change anything else. Start more conversation topics and do the changes in delta.

DEFEND US IWS. Not one person has provided feedback and said "can't wait till my A-Logi loses it's side arm and gets modules and equipment". Not one.

I stand by the fact that I should AT LEAST keep the current layout for AUR gear if I don't get a respec. I'll eat the money (I don't want to) if I get a respec.

If vehicles are not entitled to be in every mode...

Can AV be banned in skirmish?

If vehicle pilots can't kill infantry in ambush, then it's only fair that infantry (AV) can't kill vehicles in a different game mode. Simple

If I want to be invisible I need 2 complex damps which leaves me with 87 armor.

If I want to see other who are using 2 damps I need at least 3 precision which leaves me with 235 Shields.

If I only want to have better than average scans and don't use a single precision mod I have 453 shields.

So if I want to scan other scouts using damps I only have 235 shields and 87 armor to adequately damp from other cal scouts.

Or I can try to brick tank the lows with 300 armor but i'm quite scannable.

Agree of fittings although some of that has to do with the precision mods being quite good fitting wise.

The profit offered will be scanned down by a double complex precision scout and can be avoided by any scout running double damps or even perhaps a single proto damp and a proto cloak currently.

Are you serious ???

Brick tank Caldari scouts ??? That doesn't even sound right and basically your talking about the wrong race .

I play every day and I have never seen a bricked out Caldari scout , NEVER since the employment of full racial .

A little irrelevant, but what colors were messed up?

Check out the fit I posted, it's totally viable, has just under 500eHP while still maintaining vastly above average situational awareness, speed, damage and a low profile.

They are rare, but I'm surprised (and envious) you've not come up against them.

Bugs/issues that need Client update
Pilot stacking bug

Remove the sidearm from the only proto suit i've been able to afford and that pretty much seals the deal for me to never return to Dust.

I understand the idea of normalizing the slot layouts but I feel its the wrong way to go personally. The sidearm on the Amarr Logi is what made that suit fun. Having experienced having a sidearm and 3 equipment I could never go back to only having a single weapon.

I honestly can't see a reason why you would run a logistics suit over a scout unless you want to run a minmatar medic suit.

Amarr logi bridged the gap between minmatar medic and scout-logis. If you look at the numbers, something tells me the Amarr and Minmater logi suits probably greatly outnumber the caldari and gallente logis now. Its not hard to imagine why that might be, uplinks and rep tools are by far the most useful equipments available.

I would love to see the number on logi sutis in general, in pubs there are enough WP farmers running rep tools to keep the numbers high but in general they are becoming rather underpowered in general.

With scouts and heavies the way they are after 1.7 and 1.8 it seems that straight buffs to the medium suits make more sense to me. imho... adding a sidearm to caldari and doing a slot normalization that way makes much more sense. You have caldari and amarr as 'combat logi' suits with bonuses more oriented towards being near the frontline (uplinks and ammo) while minmatar and gallente logis would be more inclined to focus on their 'active equipment' using rep tools and scanners more in general and not being so inclined to need a sidearm.

WE DON'T WANT MORE EQUIPMENT AND MODULE SLOTS. We want our god damn Side Arm. You are CPM. You are supposed to support the masses whether you agree or not. Fight for us and not your warped sense of appealing to CCP.

You don't play. You know what. Look up my monthly numbers already. Look where I am at. I play 65% AV right now so the lack of kills is from redrats jumping out of drop ships I shoot down. I run A-Logi a lot and get WP for my fast uplinks thus high WP.

I have tons of WP from completely legitimate playing. I got over 5k WP today from forging and swarming vehicles and some uplinks. 2nd place was Southpac at almost 5k. 3rd place was about 1300 wp. We had top kills as well. We had great KDR. We push to be the best players we can be no matter how terrible our blueberries are. You should not be arguing with a player that puts this much AUR, Time, and effort into this game. Maybe CCP Ratatti can post the hours I play. Yes, I currently have no life while trying to save money but that fully justifies why players like myself and others who put in the hours should be listened to and supported.

All of the logis are fine. The speed nerf is a maybe for me. Fine, just don't change anything else. Start more conversation topics and do the changes in delta.

DEFEND US IWS. Not one person has provided feedback and said "can't wait till my A-Logi loses it's side arm and gets modules and equipment". Not one.

I stand by the fact that I should AT LEAST keep the current layout for AUR gear if I don't get a respec. I'll eat the money (I don't want to) if I get a respec.

He would be right....that helps dropships and gunners. It makes python able to do AV. I wouldn't call that a bug. It's an incentive for putting all of that sp into that skill

You're not hiding from anything with that fit. Just saying. Maybe in your run of the mill pubmatch where nobody runs counters to anything but that fit will get spotted no problem in a PC match.

<500 ehp is not "brick tanked." That's your average EHP of a scout in general.

Things are generally refered to as bricked tanked when every mod is EHP.

??? What? Seriously? I was only posting about them everyday for a week a couple weeks back! How quickly people forget things. These are still problems in the game.

In addition, the scout dropsuits being better at assault than assaults are is sitll a problem and won't be fixed by the proposed Charlie fixes. Instead Scouts need to either loose their sidearm slot (still have the light weapons slot that can be used for either light weapons or sidearms) or reduce the number of equipment slots to ONLY one just like everyone else that is NOT a logi! In either case the appropriate amount of PG/CPU reduction for the loss of either slot needs to be done concurrently to ensure that brick tanking scouts doesn't become the norm after that.

Why remove a slot from scouts? Because the original idea before cloaks was that Scouts should either gain an equipment slot and loose a sidearm slot to be able to do this OR they maintain the two weapon layout (one light with one sidearm) but do NOT gain an extra equipment slot.

Right now, a scout can cloak and still use all the same weapons an assault can which makes the scout more deadly than an assault for gunplay. This blurs the lines between the Assault and the Scout roles. Additionally, because they have TWO equipment slots, this make them into a "mini-logi" and this blurs the roles between Logi and Scout.

So by either removing the extra equipment slot or by removing the extra weapon slot (sidearm one) and the CPU/PG that goes with that slot removal, then you make the Scout have to choose it's role carefully. I personally would like to see the removal of the sidearm slot from the Scout suit much like the Logi has it removed. This makes it clear what the role of the Scout is to be in my mind.

The A-logi is the only one that has this unique layout. Where is the call for a grenade commando, or a sidearm heavy. Being unique is not reason enough, nor is a swarm - sidearm logi a necessity for intricate game balance.

The plan is to make logis better at what they do with good module efficacy bonuses.

Voice your opinion but don't speak for the community. I'm sure there are some amarr logi's that are excited about becoming more logi and less assault.
From what you described wouldn't having another equipment slot help you farm war points by being able to carry more uplinks? I don't know how I feel about the speed Nerf, my cal logi is already noticeably slower than my assault counterparts. For the cal logi role, I wouldn't want to be so slow I couldn't keep up with an advance and not be able to put down my hives at the right time/good spot.

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Voice your opinion but don't speak for the community. I'm sure there are some amarr logi's that are excited about becoming more logi and less assault.
From what you described wouldn't having another equipment slot help you farm war points by being able to carry more uplinks? I don't know how I feel about the speed Nerf, my cal logi is already noticeably slower than my assault counterparts. For the cal logi role, I wouldn't want to be so slow I couldn't keep up with an advance and not be able to put down my hives at the right time/good spot.

If you are going to increase the WP for OBs can you please remove EVE OBs from PC. Currently they are already having way to big an impact especially since they can be dropped at the start of battle and then every three minutes after that. The eve integration has never been properly realized and it already creates to big a difference. By increasing the WP cost for warbarge OBs EVE OBs will become even more ridiculously over powered.

WE DON'T WANT MORE EQUIPMENT AND MODULE SLOTS. We want our god damn Side Arm. You are CPM. You are supposed to support the masses whether you agree or not. Fight for us and not your warped sense of appealing to CCP.

You don't play. You know what. Look up my monthly numbers already. Look where I am at. I play 65% AV right now so the lack of kills is from redrats jumping out of drop ships I shoot down. I run A-Logi a lot and get WP for my fast uplinks thus high WP.

I have tons of WP from completely legitimate playing. I got over 5k WP today from forging and swarming vehicles and some uplinks. 2nd place was Southpac at almost 5k. 3rd place was about 1300 wp. We had top kills as well. We had great KDR. We push to be the best players we can be no matter how terrible our blueberries are. You should not be arguing with a player that puts this much AUR, Time, and effort into this game. Maybe CCP Ratatti can post the hours I play. Yes, I currently have no life while trying to save money but that fully justifies why players like myself and others who put in the hours should be listened to and supported.

All of the logis are fine. The speed nerf is a maybe for me. Fine, just don't change anything else. Start more conversation topics and do the changes in delta.

DEFEND US IWS. Not one person has provided feedback and said "can't wait till my A-Logi loses it's side arm and gets modules and equipment". Not one.

I stand by the fact that I should AT LEAST keep the current layout for AUR gear if I don't get a respec. I'll eat the money (I don't want to) if I get a respec.