I'm reposting this from another thread in hopes that either your or Logibro will read it.

You guys need to stop and ask yourselves what the role of the Caldari and Amarr logistics is on the field. They both drop passive equipment, and once that is done (literally takes about 1-2s to drop an uplink or nanohive) what is supposed to be their purpose on the battlefield?

If you think all logis should then pull out their rep tool and start repairing, then why would anyone run anything but Minmatar Logi? Simply for aesthetics? If a logi suit is supposed to spend the majority of their time repping, then there is almost no reason for any other logi suit to exist than the min logi, because it is specifically bonused for that.

The Minmatar and Gallente logi suits are centered around active equipment, that is, equipment you spend most of your time using. The Caldari and Amarr logi suits are centered around passive equipment, which leaves them free to pursue other non logistics tasks like slaying. This also makes sense as both of these passive equipment are meant to be more around the frontline, the Caldari and Amarr Logi need their combat efficacy to protect their passive equipment.

You need to think about each suits role on the field and how to better reinforce that idea.

Gallente/Minmatar
Active Equipment
High Mobility
Low combat efficiency
High Logistics efficiency

Amarr/Caldari
Passive equipment
Low mobility
Moderate combat efficiency
Low logistics efficiency

If you remove the sidearm on Amarr logi and give them a 4th equip slot, they just become a poor copy of the Min/Gal suits. They still have low logistics efficacy because their bonuses are not designed for logistics efficiency.

If you serious about type-II versions. Then you need to completely rethink the bonuses so that the high logistics efficiency variant has a bonus to active equipment and the combat efficiency variant has a bonus to passive equipment to better reinforce the role of each suit.

You would essentially need to make a set of medic suits centered entirely around the nanite injector and rep tool. While the combat version would be around passive equipment like hives and links. Every suit would have close to the same bonus, and the flavor would come from the slot layout. You could give the combat logi a L/S and the medic an S or S/S setup and boost the speed and hp of the medic up substantially to reinforce the role that they should be running around repping and reviving.

If you move forward with this as it is though, you will essentially render the non-Minmatar logi suits obsolete.

I am actually considering your proposal of adding a sidearm to Caldari logis, changing one of the high/low slots to sidearm.

Ah, okay, I see now...

Although, I think this is a pretty big cog in the overall balance of things at the expense of just having the Cal/Amarr Logi bonus apply after death but not with a suit change. So if you die, the bonus isn't lost, but if you change suits after death or at a supply depot, it would be.

It makes sense that Logistics would -NOT- have sidearms as a means of encouraging them to actually Logi instead of Slay, giving them the opportunity to do so as a means of circumventing doing things correctly is the problem we've always had with Dust 514 and I think we should go the extra mile to make sure it is, in fact, done correctly.

The bonuses applying to passive equipment (DU and Nanohive) is more reason, to me, NOT to give them a sidearm in the first place because once you drop the stuff there's no further reason to continue playing the Support Role unless you really like using those other equipment pieces. I just don't see much popularity in running all DU or all Nanohive fits. My concern is that players will drop their passive equipment and reap the benefits while slaying.

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So (for example):

8 modules + 4 equip + L + nade for Gallente/Minmatar

and:

7 Modules + 3 equip + L/S + nade for Amarr/Caldari

That's not what's causing the issue. The issue is that I cannot run with my repair tool locked onto my Heavy bro, so if he sprints, then is is faster and I loose lock on him around corners and then have a delay before I can relock onto him again.

That's not what's causing the issue. The issue is that I cannot run with my repair tool locked onto my Heavy bro, so if he sprints, then is is faster and I loose lock on him around corners and then have a delay before I can relock onto him again.

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So (for example):

8 modules + 4 equip + L + nade for Gallente/Minmatar

and:

7 Modules + 3 equip + L/S + nade for Amarr/Caldari

Agreed. The bonus Rattati that you change shouldn't affect SP investment. If so just give us a full Respec already. Yes I brought it up

So "good" uplinks can be left on the field, while you change to another logi? I think this is working as intended.

Would the people please stop trying to give assaults a fitting bonus to armor/shield extenders please? This wont solve the issue that they cannot kill a heavy quickly before it turns on his HMG to drill you with plenty of holes. I say it again: give assaults a rate of fire buff to increase their DPS. Assaults should be highly focused on damage output and not tanking till you look like a heavy with a rail rifle.

Any 1 remember the day when there was the "bugged" federation assault rifles that had a rate of fire set at 1000? thats what we would get on assaults with a 25% rate of fire bonus (5% per lvl). It would not be OP cause only assaults had access to that kind of firepower, no scouts and aswell no scrub heavys that would fit a AR. And how i get on that number is pretty easy:

AR ROF= 800
+25%= 1000

And why is every 1 so affraid that the time to kill would possibly go down? Hell i would love it if i have a chance fighting a heavy and not just allways have to run away cause a heavy with a logi is a no go in allmost every encounter. I would rather fight a assault with a rate of fire buff then a damn heavy that gets repped.

This is the narrative and any, all or none of the ideas may end up being implemented.

I think that the addition of a slot to Amarr Assault, on top of their high PG/CPU has shown how effective a fitting buff can be. We will be looking better at efficacy bonuses in Delta.