But...Cal Logi still doesn't need a sidearm...

No, No. Don't misunderstand. You'd have to look back over several pages of argument (discussion) to get the full picture. We are NOT saying remove the sidearm from the A-Logi.

A quick summary to catch you up.

Ratti said he was taking the A-Logi sidearm away.
Community LOST their minds (at least I did)
Community pointed out that the Amarr bonus sucks compared to the Active bonuses of the Min (repper) and Gal (Scanner) and that in order to utilize the Amarr bonus (links) the Amarr needed to be a reasonable fighter. (There were plenty of other arguments, but this is what spawned the Cal Logi discussion)
Then it was pointed out that the Cal Logi also had a passive logi bonus (hives) thus a similar logi style to the Amarr, thus should actually get a sidearm.
Logi Community agrees
And there was much rejoicing!

Can we have them moved to low powered slots too?

I think the point here that you're fighting against is the very point we are fighting for. Tell me this. Why would I chose to Cal or Amr over Min if I'm going to spend most of my time with a repair tool in my hand? Or over Gal if I'm looking to scan. The Hive and Link bonus, even if it was working as intended, isn't that great compared to the Active bonuses of the Gal and Min.

So...
Basically...
Armor Assaults will be forced to dual tank?
Because we don't have anything, count, ANYTHING other than extenders to put into high slots without damage mods.

I think the point here that you're fighting against is the very point we are fighting for. Tell me this. Why would I chose to Cal or Amr over Min if I'm going to spend most of my time with a repair tool in my hand? Or over Gal if I'm looking to scan. The Hive and Link bonus, even if it was working as intended, isn't that great compared to the Active bonuses of the Gal and Min.

Remove the sidearm from the only proto suit i've been able to afford and that pretty much seals the deal for me to never return to Dust.

I understand the idea of normalizing the slot layouts but I feel its the wrong way to go personally. The sidearm on the Amarr Logi is what made that suit fun. Having experienced having a sidearm and 3 equipment I could never go back to only having a single weapon.

I honestly can't see a reason why you would run a logistics suit over a scout unless you want to run a minmatar medic suit.

Amarr logi bridged the gap between minmatar medic and scout-logis. If you look at the numbers, something tells me the Amarr and Minmater logi suits probably greatly outnumber the caldari and gallente logis now. Its not hard to imagine why that might be, uplinks and rep tools are by far the most useful equipments available.

I would love to see the number on logi sutis in general, in pubs there are enough WP farmers running rep tools to keep the numbers high but in general they are becoming rather underpowered in general.

With scouts and heavies the way they are after 1.7 and 1.8 it seems that straight buffs to the medium suits make more sense to me. imho... adding a sidearm to caldari and doing a slot normalization that way makes much more sense. You have caldari and amarr as 'combat logi' suits with bonuses more oriented towards being near the frontline (uplinks and ammo) while minmatar and gallente logis would be more inclined to focus on their 'active equipment' using rep tools and scanners more in general and not being so inclined to need a sidearm.

*Rubs against Rattati's leg*

Do not move damage mods to low slots D:

so calscouts are losing their scan precisions? huh... well, I guess we had our fun long enough and poor amarr scouts really need something.

With codebreakers moving to high slot, it will be interesting to see what kind of fittings calscouts will create. So far you can personalize your play style much much more with low slots than you can with high slots, so I'm glad we're getting more high slot options.

Sure, but you could make that argument about other suits as well. Why should I use the Gallente Logi, even with it's active bonus, when the Scouts are so much more effective at the job? We're taking measures to change that, sure, but it's not exactly like people are flocking to the Gallente Logi right now.

And, again, cross-racial bonuses would help immensely with this. Amarr Logi with specialized bonuses to Drop Uplinks with a secondary bonus to Repair Tools would just make sense since they are Armor tankers, same could be said about the Gallente Logi as well. Gallente Logi only has the bonus to the Active Scanners and even if they are Active, what am I doing when I'm not using the one scanner? Can I have a sidearm on my Gallente Logistics as well..?

My Gal Logis carry multiple scanners 0.o. I think the point to keep in mind here is that your argument to make Assaults better by discouraging the Slayer Logi is flawed. The Slayer Logi exist because the Assault bonus suck. The combat medic/engineer has a place, and that place shouldn't be undermine because the Assaults in there current setup do not.

Indulge me for a moment and answer this like a CPM Candidate question. What bonus would you give to the Assault classes to make them more attractive without taking away from the other roles?

Sure, but you could make that argument about other suits as well. Why should I use the Gallente Logi, even with it's active bonus, when the Scouts are so much more effective at the job? We're taking measures to change that, sure, but it's not exactly like people are flocking to the Gallente Logi right now.

And, again, cross-racial bonuses would help immensely with this. Amarr Logi with specialized bonuses to Drop Uplinks with a secondary bonus to Repair Tools would just make sense since they are Armor tankers, same could be said about the Gallente Logi as well. Gallente Logi only has the bonus to the Active Scanners and even if they are Active, what am I doing when I'm not using the one scanner? Can I have a sidearm on my Gallente Logistics as well..?

In the past I would have agreed completely. But think about it, Logis are not the slayers they were back in the day, not by half. And even back then it was mostly Cal and Gal, for along time just Caldari really. I think the focus should be on buff Assaults first, then look at logis. Not both at the same time.

I 'm talking about struggling to scrape ADV weapons onto the suits. PG and cpu is already razor thin. I build my logis around the equipment and HP but thinking along your lines would make me build around the weapon. Ethier an standard or mlt light weapon or SMG with low HP and good equipment or become a better slayer than assaults with a duvolle with survivable suit but crappy equipment.