More than 1 gun can have too much power, you know.

More than 1 gun can have too much power, you know.

And I meant mkre than 1 weapon can be too powerful like the cr and hmg.

Here's my cal scout vs assault

Assault has 455 shields
Scout has 445
Assault has 52 hp/s with a complex energizer, scout has 50 hp/s base
Scout has higher speed, stamina, stamina regen
Scout has less shield delay, scout and assault should swap
Scout has proto weappn, assault has basic, assault needs cpu mod to fit proto weapon
Can use nanohives or any equip without cpu mods.

nobody can run a cr and hmg though lol

All weapons OP doesn't make them all balanced, because there is not one single degree of OP. In fact, they can all be varying levels of OP.

I already said, I don't care about regen. I want to slay. All I need is HP and damage.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/161/5448

Let's look at using a 25% baseline, 35% baseline, and a 50% baseline (with module at 45%)

25% / 35% / 50%
Base Range (m): 20 / 20 / 20
Lv 5 skills (m): 30 / 30 / 30
Lv 5 racial (m): 37.5 / 40.5 / 45
1 complex mod (m): 46.9 / 54.7 / 65.3
2 complex mod (m) : 57.1 / 71.3 / 90.8

Feel free to check my math. Personally I feel 25% gives too little progression, and it does seem that 50% is a bit indulgent.

Deathwind is why it is not ok for Dev groupies to just stop on in. There are plenty of other threads for feedback. The Barbershop was built for those who wanted to argue scout specific topics and continued doing so even when we were completely ignored.

Its not like we just set up shop in a random feedback thread and tried to take over. The reverse shouldn't be true either.

I like constructive criticism, but would prefer that anyone doing so stick around and be a part of the scout community and not just post self serving drivel.

Yes, I am looking at you Deathwind.

All right, please take a look at the document again.

I have documented all the necessary and relevant scenarios, I hope. At the top of the document, I have collected the key numbers and tried to put them into perspective.


Galogi focused scanner gets the highest range and precision possible, due to it being 1) active, 2) narrow and 3) having a limited duration. This helps establish boundaries that scouts need to live within.

That said, by a combination of racial bonuses and dedication of slots

All scouts can have similar range, 76m to 91, under the Focused at 100m.

All scouts can get under the focused dB by using a cloak, exception Gallente not needing cloak

All scouts can get under the best passive by using 2 dampeners and cloak or 3 dampeners

Best passive at 2 precision modules is beaten by best dampener at 2 dampening modules

This does not require Codebreakers to be in high, so don't assume that is the case.

Now, please give me feedback and theorycraft with me the most OP FOTM this will spawn, and we will try to counter it.

EWAR calculations

Please keep this discussion very focused, don't discuss scan falloff or efficacies, just the numbers in the document and resulting scenarios.

Thanks and appreciated.

i agree with you. but any changes to scouts are changes that affect us all. so it matters. the same way it matters what infantry think when changes are made to vehicles. unless you prefer to not be consulted when those changes come around?

i agree with you. but any changes to scouts are changes that affect us all. so it matters. the same way it matters what infantry think when changes are made to vehicles. unless you prefer to not be consulted when those changes come around?

i agree with you. but any changes to scouts are changes that affect us all. so it matters. the same way it matters what infantry think when changes are made to vehicles. unless you prefer to not be consulted when those changes come around?

@ Floyd and Shaman
Come back during regular business hours (aka when a wild Dev isn't hanging about) and make yourselves useful. This isn't your typical thread, and just stopping in because you are shadowing a blue tag is disrespectful. We always like talking shop, and you are welcome to do so as long as you don't just stop buy for Dev attention.

Did we came here talking **** to someone? No

I've found numbers and i've given my feedback, i play 90% of my match as a double dampened gal scout, i think i'm pretty entitled to produce feedback on scout suits and how i would balance them, between each other and between all the other suits.
So, I decide what is my typical thread, I decide where i want to post, this is not your home and you are not the gatekeeper.

You should apologize with me and Floyd, the only disrespectful here is you.

No.
He came here to get the our opinion, so we could help him formulate a propose to then put forward to the community as a whole. Not to finalise the numbers for the hotfix.

cut

really? so how many could you kill with 1000 hp and no regen, hives, or logi support?

i can kill +20 on ~ 450 eHP and ~85 hp/s shield regen on my cal assault. 1v1? im at a disadvantage. but id kill more than you could with 5000 hp and no reps or regen lol

You should apologize ...

That'd be civil, but it's pretty much guaranteed not to happen. Brawls are the norm here; words are seldom minced and punches seldom pulled. If a regular thinks you're wrong, he'll call you out. If you don't take kindly to being called out, try harder to not be wrong :)

The point is that i'm obviously only here because of the blue tag, but i simply gave my feedback, like i do in many other threads.
I play most of time as scout, i use EW and of course i'm interested in what will be the evolution of my role, all the community should be involved in this discussion.
I've posted here and i've been personally attacked for no reason and i can't bear it.

FOTM

The point is that i'm obviously only here because of the blue tag, but i simply gave my feedback, like i do in many other threads.
I play most of time as scout, i use EW and of course i'm interested in what will be the evolution of my role, all the community should be involved in this discussion.
I've posted here and i've been personally attacked for no reason and i can't bear it.

Once, but who has never been?

In my defence i can say that my choice was restricted to min and gal.