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DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
122
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:56:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:I've had huge success with my proto fit, though its pricey (140k) and I've lost lots of Isk experimenting: Pro Gal Shotgun Scout (153 Shield / 240 Armor / 8.84 Sprint)- Complex Shield Extender
- Creodron Shotgun
- Six Kin SMG
- A-19 Active Scanner
- M-1 Locus Nade
- Complex KinCat
- Complex ArmRep
- Basic Armor Plate
- Militia CPU Chip
Very similar to mine, except I swap out the CPU Chip for a basic profile dampener. Got to get below those proto scanners! Other than that, it's the same. |
DTOracle
The Surrogates Of War
134
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:21:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Duvolle focused scanner may be too much of a resource pig to fit on a scout frame.. proto's were only +10 CPU with the same PG as ADV ones, the last time I checked. I have a ADV scanner on my M-1 Series with no CPU chip. They should fit on a proto suit no problem, & a ADV with some sacrifice. |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
232
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:39:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Duvolle focused scanner may be too much of a resource pig to fit on a scout frame.. proto's were only +10 CPU with the same PG as ADV ones, the last time I checked. I have a ADV scanner on my M-1 Series with no CPU chip. They should fit on a proto suit no problem, & a ADV with some sacrifice. Duvolle focused scanner is double pg of other proto. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
980
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:40:00 -
[1504] - Quote
Hey scouts you might want to sign up here if you dont like being made of tissue paper |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
910
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:47:00 -
[1505] - Quote
I've been noticing a weird melee bug with my shotgun since the patch. I posted about it here. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing it.
Also, I guess it's time to start working towards my racial level 5. These scanners are ruining my day. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
122
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:08:00 -
[1506] - Quote
Light Suit V, not the racial. I mean that one too, but the first skill you need to lvl. 3 is the one bonus profile dampening is based off of. And yes, its labeled wrong. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1075
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:11:00 -
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Nestil wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:My proto scout: -Enhanced Shield ext -Duvolle Shotgun -KLO1 Pistol -Core Nades -Nanohive -Complex Kinetic -Complex Plate -Basic Plate -Complex Repair 108shield 404 armor
Beast build dude O.o.... if i just could fit my scout like that, i would be unstopable :3 I have CPU core upgrades and pg at 4 |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1133
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:23:00 -
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Having trouble with the mass driver right now, just don't kill fast enough to be a contender against the almighty ar (in a scout suit anyway) my Nova Knives aren't working correctly and even if they do I'm boned if I'm spotted, and I almost have to use active scanners in squads as well to keep from getting killed so my REs aren't being used.
That's 3 prototype gears I've spent a very long time acquiring made near worthless by this update or buggs that have been around for a month pluse, what's next they lower our cpu? |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
911
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Having trouble with the mass driver right now, just don't kill fast enough to be a contender against the almighty ar (in a scout suit anyway) my Nova Knives aren't working correctly and even if they do I'm boned if I'm spotted, and I almost have to use active scanners in squads as well to keep from getting killed so my REs aren't being used.
That's 3 prototype gears I've spent a very long time acquiring made near worthless by this update or buggs that have been around for a month pluse, what's next they lower our cpu?
I know the feels. I really miss my REs a lot. I just don't trust squadmates to run a scanner immediately after it's cool down to keep me alive. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
969
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Posted - 2013.09.07 03:38:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:Light Suit V, not the racial. I mean that one too, but the first skill you need to lvl. 3 is the one bonus profile dampening is based off of. And yes, its labeled wrong.
Hey Dev, I'm confused by the above advice...would you guys kindly correct my thinking where its wrong:
1. Each level of Scout Suit adds a large Profile Dampening bonus. 2. Each level in Scout Suit also adds a Racial bonus (melee or scan range) 3. Each level of Light Suit adds no bonus. 4. So in the long run, there is no reason to level up Light Suit beyond level 3.
Thanks, Shotty |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1137
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Posted - 2013.09.07 12:46:00 -
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My kdr went down by .02 since 1.4 has been deployed I don't give a damn but my kd but there's a reason that happened just saying devs........ |
Kodho
Hidden Suppression
13
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:34:00 -
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My kdr is down about that as well. The problem I'm having is kills and war points. Being a sniper is very difficult this build. My kills are off by around 4 or 5 per match. A lot of that has to do with the new buildings and maps. The new buildings are not very sniper friendly and the new maps have very few high spots for finding red dots. Most of the new maps have all of the objectives on a hill. If I venture in to find a nice high point of view, I'm almost always quickly dispatched. It's very frustrating at the moment.
Seeking Higher Ground, Kodho |
Gh0st C0de
Spirit Collective
21
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:09:00 -
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I have a question for my fellow scouts. I have only played a few rounds of 1.4 so far as it has been a busy week. During these rounds I have crept up on hackers with my shotgun and on three separate occasions had to empty six shells to kill them, because four didn't register. Is this just how 1.4 is going to be, or have they hotfixed this since I played on Wednesday?
TLDR: What did 1.4 do to my shotgun and do we know if there are plans to fix it? |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
72
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:35:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:voidfaction wrote:Driftward wrote:voidfaction wrote:
Not impossible because I'm doing it. Not on advanced suit with a proto gallente scout. Neo suits at lvl 3
You can think its broke all you want. This was not based off numbers it from 2 days testing with 50 neo suits.
If I wanted armor or shield I would be in an assault suit
So you did some 'science'? (asking honestly) Is this confirmed that you can see people at 60 m with only lvl 3 in racial scouts? Are you using 3-4 range amplifiers? I'm just trying to get the math on what we have to line up with what you're saying. Do you have any extra skill in precision enhancers? Do scouts ever show up on your passives with your set up? This is the especially important question as it will tell us very important information of how eWAR is working. Are these scouts in frame suits or are they skilled into racials or dampening? These are need to know items. To understand the system and build the most efficient fittings we need to know if passives are black and white (if your profile is below your precision you never show up / less likely to show up) or some probability driven mechanic. I'm willing to kick in some ISK, say 1 mill, if someone can give me video data that answers some of these questions. yes, i have range lvl 5 and use 3 complex range. lvl 3 precision using 1 advanced precision enhancer and it covers my back side very well too. I see scouts but not as much and they are not as brightly lit most of the time. quessing the closer to beating my precision they don't show as bright. if your hunting other scouts your best bet is logi suit or duvolle focused scanner. Duvolle focused scanner may be too much of a resource pig to fit on a scout frame..
I would only have to sacrifice my av grenades to fit it. nanohives is more of a priority to me.
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
87
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:08:00 -
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Gh0st C0de wrote: I have a question for my fellow scouts. I have only played a few rounds of 1.4 so far as it has been a busy week. During these rounds I have crept up on hackers with my shotgun and on three separate occasions had to empty six shells to kill them, because four didn't register. Is this just how 1.4 is going to be, or have they hotfixed this since I played on Wednesday?
TLDR: What did 1.4 do to my shotgun and do we know if there are plans to fix it?
It's fixed. I own with it now. Played 9 matches Thursday night and was positive ever round. My styl is stealth and shotgun and they are far better in 1.4. I your trying to frontal assault ar users you will die. Gotta stay hidden guys. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
124
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Posted - 2013.09.07 18:01:00 -
[1516] - Quote
The Light Suit gives the dampening bonus. The Gall Scout gives scan range bonus. Minmatar Scout gives bonus melee/NK damage.
The skill you need to at least three to unlock the racial scout variant is the one that gives the dampener bonus.
The skill that allows access to the suits that don't get the bonus gives better dampening to the suits that do get the bonuses.
This would be a he!! of a lot easier to explain if the skills were labeled correctly and/or the pilot suit was on the skill tree. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
42
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Posted - 2013.09.07 18:12:00 -
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Lucifalic wrote:Gh0st C0de wrote: I have a question for my fellow scouts. I have only played a few rounds of 1.4 so far as it has been a busy week. During these rounds I have crept up on hackers with my shotgun and on three separate occasions had to empty six shells to kill them, because four didn't register. Is this just how 1.4 is going to be, or have they hotfixed this since I played on Wednesday?
TLDR: What did 1.4 do to my shotgun and do we know if there are plans to fix it? It's fixed. I own with it now. Played 9 matches Thursday night and was positive ever round. My styl is stealth and shotgun and they are far better in 1.4. I your trying to frontal assault ar users you will die. Gotta stay hidden guys.
They broke it, somehow even more than it had been. And then they fixed it. Can confirm, shotgun is back. I'm having the most fun I've had since I started playing in open beta. Shotty scout is amazing right now, and I'm only in a Minnie Advanced suit. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1140
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:20:00 -
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Don't play scout while lagged it's death, and in my case : Don't play mass driver scout while lagged you are your death. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
73
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Don't play scout while lagged it's death, and in my case : Don't play mass driver scout while lagged you are your death.
I don't play MD or Grenades period or im my own death. I don't need to be lagged
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1146
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:30:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Don't play scout while lagged it's death, and in my case : Don't play mass driver scout while lagged you are your death. I don't play MD or Grenades period or im my own death. I don't need to be lagged I'll admit I've killed myself with explosives more then a few times |
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Raiff Basdek
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
37
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:54:00 -
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Sudden realisation that despite reading it several times, I've never actually posted in this thread. Add me to the list.
Running miny scout/sniper fit. Somewhere around 2500-3000 kills so far I think. |
Haerr
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:50:00 -
[1522] - Quote
Since Scanning and Dampening is relevant to our interests I figured that I would link to a thread I made about scanning. It includes two charts one without stacking penalty and that includes stacking penalty.
Link to thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108732&find=unread
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
352
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:58:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:The Light Suit gives the dampening bonus. The Gall Scout gives scan range bonus. Minmatar Scout gives bonus melee/NK damage.
The skill you need to at least three to unlock the racial scout variant is the one that gives the dampener bonus.
The skill that allows access to the suits that don't get the bonus gives better dampening to the suits that do get the bonuses.
This would be a he!! of a lot easier to explain if the skills were labeled correctly and/or the pilot suit was on the skill tree.
This is not how it is listed anywhere. If you are correct then CCP need to state this and issue a respec of those two skills but if you are wrong you are spreading misinformation.
Another reason why all the numbers of everything should be displayed CORRECTLY on the fitting screen. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
981
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:18:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:The Light Suit gives the dampening bonus. The Gall Scout gives scan range bonus. Minmatar Scout gives bonus melee/NK damage.
The skill you need to at least three to unlock the racial scout variant is the one that gives the dampener bonus.
The skill that allows access to the suits that don't get the bonus gives better dampening to the suits that do get the bonuses.
This would be a he!! of a lot easier to explain if the skills were labeled correctly and/or the pilot suit was on the skill tree. This is not how it is listed anywhere. If you are correct then CCP need to state this and issue a respec of those two skills but if you are wrong you are spreading misinformation. Another reason why all the numbers of everything should be displayed CORRECTLY on the fitting screen.
If DisDev's right, then all of my dampening progressions are wrong. No idea if he is correct or not. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
1027
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:22:00 -
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7092 kills .8 KDR light suits count right? I just started using the scout, but I've used light frame since the respec came out. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
74
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:19:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:The Light Suit gives the dampening bonus. The Gall Scout gives scan range bonus. Minmatar Scout gives bonus melee/NK damage.
The skill you need to at least three to unlock the racial scout variant is the one that gives the dampener bonus.
The skill that allows access to the suits that don't get the bonus gives better dampening to the suits that do get the bonuses.
This would be a he!! of a lot easier to explain if the skills were labeled correctly and/or the pilot suit was on the skill tree. This is not how it is listed anywhere. If you are correct then CCP need to state this and issue a respec of those two skills but if you are wrong you are spreading misinformation. Another reason why all the numbers of everything should be displayed CORRECTLY on the fitting screen. If DisDev's right, then all of my dampening progressions are wrong. No idea if he is correct or not.
If he was right then medium frame would get 2 bonuses. because logi and assault non racial bonuses are different. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
124
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:47:00 -
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I wasted WAY too much SP to test this and have come to the conclusion that I was horribly *HORRIBLY* wrong. DO NOT waste sp on the Gallente Light Dropsuit skill, as it does nothing for your bonus.
I tested it by skilling Gallente Medium Dropsuit to 3 and Gallente Logistics Dropsuit to 2. It has 2 bonuses (also labeled weird) that show up on the fitting screen.
Results are that the ONLY skill that effects your bonus is the Gallente Scout Dropsuit skill. Taking the Gallente Light Dropsuit to 5 does nothing at all and is a total waste of time and effort.
I'm going to go rage in a corner for a while. Probably the new Splinter Cell game. F#_($%#)@(&%#(_ this game... |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
983
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:30:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:I wasted WAY too much SP to test this and have come to the conclusion that I was horribly *HORRIBLY* wrong. DO NOT waste sp on the Gallente Light Dropsuit skill, as it does nothing for your bonus.
I tested it by skilling Gallente Medium Dropsuit to 3 and Gallente Logistics Dropsuit to 2. It has 2 bonuses (also labeled weird) that show up on the fitting screen.
Results are that the ONLY skill that effects your bonus is the Gallente Scout Dropsuit skill. Taking the Gallente Light Dropsuit to 5 does nothing at all and is a total waste of time and effort.
I'm going to go rage in a corner for a while. Probably the new Splinter Cell game. F#_($%#)@(&%#(_ this game...
Thanks for clearing this up, Dev. You had me worried.
If you're tuning in late to this sidebar, do NOT skill past Light Suits level III. Go straight into your preferred racial Scout Suit as early as possible.
- Shotty GoBang |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
35
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:34:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:I wasted WAY too much SP to test this and have come to the conclusion that I was horribly *HORRIBLY* wrong. DO NOT waste sp on the Gallente Light Dropsuit skill, as it does nothing for your bonus.
I tested it by skilling Gallente Medium Dropsuit to 3 and Gallente Logistics Dropsuit to 2. It has 2 bonuses (also labeled weird) that show up on the fitting screen.
Results are that the ONLY skill that effects your bonus is the Gallente Scout Dropsuit skill. Taking the Gallente Light Dropsuit to 5 does nothing at all and is a total waste of time and effort.
I'm going to go rage in a corner for a while. Probably the new Splinter Cell game. F#_($%#)@(&%#(_ this game... You sir are a credit to the scout community. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
917
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:36:00 -
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Im sorry , if i stop playing my MAIN as a scout do i still qualify? Because im playing half scout / half Amarr Assault at the moment..... |
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