Where's that coming from O.o?

Photon Swarms

HAV - Stalk until HAV has come to complete rest beyond the range of infantry support. Wait for HAV to begin firing sequence. Place REs (generally one, sometimes two) until tank begins to move. Flux tank. Pop REs. Fire swarms as it retreats. Low odds of a kill; high odds of +75; even odds of getting blasted.

Here's my AV Fit ...

G. Pro AV "Ghost" (117k)
PW: Wiyrkomi Swarm (Proficiency V)
SW: Toxin SMG
HI: Cmp Damage Amp (x2)
LO: Cmp KinCat (x2), Cmp Dampener (x2)
GR: Adv Flux
EQ: Std RE, Adv Cloak

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Applications (Ambush)

Dropship - Stalk indefinitely; avoid hostile infantry. Wait for a friendly to hit it with Forge Gun or Rail Turret. Fire 2-3 volleys; get +75; chase away bird. Do not fire at bird until someone has engaged it, lest it trace your AV origin and prioritize killing you ... generally, with one missile (249 HP).

HAV - Stalk until HAV has come to complete rest beyond the range of infantry support. Wait for HAV to begin firing sequence. Place REs (generally one, sometimes two) until tank begins to move. Flux tank. Pop REs. Fire swarms as it retreats. Low odds of a kill; high odds of +75; even odds of getting blasted.

Infantry-supported HAV - Do not engage.
Dual HAVs - Do not engage.
HAV+ADS - Do not engage.

Expectations (Ambush)

If you're lucky, your "prey" will farm fewer kills due to your having chased it away from friendlies all match. Even so, your "prey", more likely than not, will still go 10/0 and will still make money. You, on the other hand, should budget to lose 300,000 to 500,000 Isk per match. Invariably, your "prey" will kill you once or twice, you'll be spotted by hostile infantry or you'll be sniped while volleying swarms.

[Advice]

I am commenting because I cannot have this thread below the Ladyboy thread. I just can't.

Also, are we letting the Shotty siting slide, or will there be discussion? Is this the second coming?

I am commenting because I cannot have this thread below the Ladyboy thread. I just can't.

Also, are we letting the Shotty siting slide, or will there be discussion? Is this the second coming?

I am commenting because I cannot have this thread below the Ladyboy thread. I just can't.

Also, are we letting the Shotty siting slide, or will there be discussion? Is this the second coming?

But I'm with Bay on this, I think he just wanted people to know who was writing it, and it seemed like he thought about it, he wrote "why not" as Adipem.

It was originally the same post, only he deleted it and replaced it. Then copied it to the new post.

Let's have a look-see at that candied thread of yours, Aeon.

• Vehicle Rep Tools (Post #1)
• Better SP scaling for vehicles (#21)
• Return of Logistics variants (#39)

A subset of a problematic class asks for more. These are same operators who relentlessly camp spawnpoints. The same pilots who resist the AV of the infantry they farm, and demand to retain the ability to do so. The very same class who are so far broken that 100+ KDRs can be found at any time in weekly Leaderboards.

By way of contrast, let's pretend that Scouts are so vastly overpowered that they steamroll all other players, except for other Scouts. Let's pretend that these demi-gods summoned Rattati to ask for more, say SG Sharpshooter or Chrome Sprint Speed. Would you offer those Scouts some candy? Or would you call them crazy?

Right or wrong, this is how I see things. Scouts are somewhat OP and FoTM. We didn't want it but it happened, and we're trying to get it fixed. Pilots are vastly OP and FoTM. Their majority insists that all is well and actively lobby for continued imbalance. Without sense, you've offered them candy; without shame they ask for more.

With Proficiency V Photon Swarms I can't even defend a friendly spawn.
It is bullsh*t, and I'm counting on CPM (old and new) and Rattati to fix it.
No excuses. No chasing butterflies. And certainly no candy 'til its fixed.

Mhmm. I get the creeping suspicion that there's something more that I'm not being told here so this might be falling on deaf ears, but here goes.

We've got some SAM-MIK guys in here. Who wants to be the Scout liaison and tell Sir Dukey to stop arguing with an OG scout?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2187206#post2187206

(#1) Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles?

The old engineering skill gave us PG. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants it back. There needs to be more benefits to investing SP into vehicles.

Things i would like ---SUPER REQUEST--- return of the logi vehicles and module (i know they are still there)

He doesn't like tanks

PS: teamwork should not be OP. There should still be waves of opportunity. I can alpha a heavy with a logi, or out DPS through the reps even without a fellow logi repping me. With tanks you simply can't do that without another tank, most times the tank can just GTFO out of range. Recall and repeat. Its a poor **** mechanic thats been in the game WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY longer than scouts have been buffed.

However, it seems the cloak and scouts are so OP right now that its the first thing on the hotfix list and they are getting the hammer. Most of the reason that scouts are getting that fix is because we are advocates of balance, in contrast, vehicle players are notorious of "everythings fine" move along mentality.

Good spotting.
Appia is always watching

Hopefully in a benevolent "Santa Claus" kind way.

A random thought appeared!, I cast write it down! It's super effective!

Song time:

She's making a list.
Stabbing it twice.
Gonna find out who's FotM (foe-tom) or nice.

Ap-pi-a is hunting you down...

She sees you when you're sniping.
She knows where you will hide.
She knows the math on scanning mods
and won't stop until you've died.

Oh, you better get out,
and if you can't fly,
Just suicide out I'm telling you why.

Ap-pi-a is hunting you down...

Prepare yourself for all my likes. I laughed so much at this.

I'm not in Sam-Mik, but I'll still tell him to calm down.

DTOracle speaks the truth in that post. Kincats AND Shield Extenders? Ain't nobody got the PG for that.

Suit is fun, but caters to a VERY specific type of player. It just isn't for everyone.

That being said, it's still far inferior to the power of the Gal/Cal.

Yeah, I posted my proto and standard fit in there. I love it for what it is and what I do with it works (for now). 3PG would be sexy.

@ Aeon

You're missing the point.

(1) How are Scouts and Vehicles related? At the moment they are both overperforming, both in need of finetuning and both on Rattati's to-do list. As Iggy aptly pointed out, users of one item want it to be fixed. Users of the other item flat-out demand that it remain broken.

(2) Do we want Vehicles to be nerf hammered in some show of vindication? Absolutely not. We simply want the imbalance to end. Unfortunately for Rattati, Pilots are not going to give up their win-button without a fight. Hence a prime opportunity for the CPM to take initiative and bridge the gap.

(3) Are you responsible for what others request? Of course not, but you are responsible for how you influence the problem. You've offered candy to imbalanced class that wishes to remain broken. Are you offering them candy in hopes of bringing them to the balance table? Or are you offering them candy because its teamwork candy, which you think they should have? I'm watching the thread; still no talk of balance; only requests for more candy.