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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1655
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Posted - 2014.03.21 21:04:00 -
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Militia. Nanite. Injector.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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noob cavman
cavemen's barbershop
884
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Posted - 2014.03.21 21:06:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Militia. Nanite. Injector. .... I'll be quite.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Oldest barbershop in new eden.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
716
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Posted - 2014.03.21 21:07:00 -
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You can put on my tombstone, "Appia was here."
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
816
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:12:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:You can put on my tombstone, "Appia was here." How about 'Appia is still here.'
Knowledge is power
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Ivan Avogadro
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
896
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:14:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:I agree with Monk on the Pistoleer suit. Your scan range is over 90m and your effective range with that gun is 60m. Also, do you need to go Proto on the RE? The only benefit is carry 4, activate 5 (instead of 3 and 3). For 31 CPU you could open you suit up a little, toss on a nanohive (to refill those REs) or an SMG. Answer to the green pill: It's highly doubtful I'll have enough skill points for proto biotics of any kind, at the moment I've got 0 in biotics. Answer to RE's: No, not really, I just wasn't sure what to put there, so I just put them there, that was a primary reason for sharing it really, to see what suggestions about it may pop up.
Yeah, I always found going proto mines lackluster. The damage and splash stay the same. You can carry more, but all go boom anyway when you trip them. In my case it means I trigger all the letters I booby trapped just because one was getting hacked. If I need more mines I just find a hive or a supply depot.
I'd go with standard REs and pull in another piece of equip on that build. |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
816
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:16:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:I agree with Monk on the Pistoleer suit. Your scan range is over 90m and your effective range with that gun is 60m. Also, do you need to go Proto on the RE? The only benefit is carry 4, activate 5 (instead of 3 and 3). For 31 CPU you could open you suit up a little, toss on a nanohive (to refill those REs) or an SMG. Answer to the green pill: It's highly doubtful I'll have enough skill points for proto biotics of any kind, at the moment I've got 0 in biotics. Answer to RE's: No, not really, I just wasn't sure what to put there, so I just put them there, that was a primary reason for sharing it really, to see what suggestions about it may pop up. You need biotics 1 to pick up the cardio skill, and I've been banging on for ages about how I think the advanced cardio outperforms the proto for improving your recharge rate, so three levels in cardio will do it. Comes in at about 220k SP. Even the basic module is useful, and that'll cost a grand total of 30k SP.
Knowledge is power
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
727
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:17:00 -
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I plan on making a build with ADV REs since you can carry 4 of them, and laying traps with all 4 and proxies. I want to see if it is a viable tactic or not.
Its really hard to do without the 2nd eq slot at the moment, minus the rare occasions when a supply depot is handy.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
4716
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:17:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Gall scouts can be pretty good slayers. That's the same way I run my scouts babar. I do really well as well, even in PC.
However I think most of he complaints with the scout suit stem from trying to use ewar and biotic module set up instead of hp set up like u and I use.
I have indeed tried a pure ewar set up with only 1 rep and no tank other than a shield extender and it was pretty damn hard.
I won't say "you're not a real scout" because if that's true, I'm not a real scout either. You're not a real scout. I'm not a real scout guys :((
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Forum Warrior LV. 5 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2520
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:22:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Gall scouts can be pretty good slayers. That's the same way I run my scouts babar. I do really well as well, even in PC.
However I think most of he complaints with the scout suit stem from trying to use ewar and biotic module set up instead of hp set up like u and I use.
I have indeed tried a pure ewar set up with only 1 rep and no tank other than a shield extender and it was pretty damn hard.
I won't say "you're not a real scout" because if that's true, I'm not a real scout either. You're not a real scout. I'm not a real scout guys :(( You're still a Bastard Just a slightly fatter bastards that likes to beat people up
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
817
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:23:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Gall scouts can be pretty good slayers. That's the same way I run my scouts babar. I do really well as well, even in PC.
However I think most of he complaints with the scout suit stem from trying to use ewar and biotic module set up instead of hp set up like u and I use.
I have indeed tried a pure ewar set up with only 1 rep and no tank other than a shield extender and it was pretty damn hard.
I won't say "you're not a real scout" because if that's true, I'm not a real scout either. You're not a real scout. I'm not a real scout guys :(( I new it! Let me guess...you're actually a cyborg sent back in time to prevent a crime in the future? Second guess, you're a ham sandwich that gained sentience after being contaminated with radioactive condiments.
On a more serious note, I don't understand all the hate for tanked scouts. 'You're not playing it right' is scrub talk. If it fits, it's a fit. If you're using the benefits of a scout suit to make your fit effective, then you're a scout.
Knowledge is power
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noob cavman
cavman's barbershop
889
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:34:00 -
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ccp stole my e again!!! <~~~ look
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Oldest barbershop in new eden.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
727
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:39:00 -
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The only issue I have is when a tanked scout becomes a better assault suit than an assault.
Its the same problem we had with the logis being better scouts than us.
It may be my own personal perspective, but I believe each role should have a place in the game in which it does its job better than all others. That isn't to say you can't vary the role and make certain suits somewhat more like others, like adding armor to scouts or dampeners to assaults, but again it shouldn't become better at a style than the suit designed specifically for that role.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
727
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:40:00 -
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DPing like a K.
I was wondering why you didn't just keep it consistent.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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noob cavman
cavman's barbershop
889
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:56:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:DPing like a K. I was wondering why you didn't just keep it consistent. I wanted to rebel... This was my charge of the light cavalry. but ccp's musket is too op!
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Oldest barbershop in new eden.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3658
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:08:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You can put on my tombstone, "Appia was here." How about 'Appia is still here.'
Standing over his grave with a Militia Nanite Injector.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1662
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:26:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Brokerib wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You can put on my tombstone, "Appia was here." How about 'Appia is still here.' Standing over his grave with a Militia Nanite Injector. What grave? That clone is never going to be terminated.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
819
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:26:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:The only issue I have is when a tanked scout becomes a better assault suit than an assault.
Its the same problem we had with the logis being better scouts than us.
It may be my own personal perspective, but I believe each role should have a place in the game in which it does its job better than all others. That isn't to say you can't vary the role and make certain suits somewhat more like others, like adding armor to scouts or dampeners to assaults, but again it shouldn't become better at a style than the suit designed specifically for that role. Agreed, but the problem in this case is assault sucking. They should buff the assault slot layout and nerf the logi slot layout. Then assaults stand out with versitility in suit fitting, while logis stand out with equipment fittings, and there's no way a scout will be able to out assault an assault who is fitted for it, while they can also compete (to an extent) with lights and heavies in their own teritoriy. Mediums should be the most versitile, but at the moment they're close to the least.
Knowledge is power
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
253
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:52:00 -
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Are there issues with the protofits stats? Someone's trying to tell me it has all the profiles wrong and any ewar theory building will be way off. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
2523
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:16:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Are there issues with the protofits stats? Someone's trying to tell me it has all the profiles wrong and any ewar theory building will be way off. Mathppia Haerrithmatic > Protofits
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1663
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:18:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Are there issues with the protofits stats? Someone's trying to tell me it has all the profiles wrong and any ewar theory building will be way off. Numbers are rounded in DUST, specifics are not disclosed. protofits just does the math, which is not 100% reliable.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
248
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:46:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:You need to share the fitting. Copy Pasta doesn't work. Go into the Fitting tab, and click detailed fits. There should be a share button. Copy paste the link it provides. You're welcome. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/573 Found your problem. Why are you running a Duvolle Quantum Scanner?!? You're a SCOUT. You have 20m Base scan 24/7 in 1.8. Dump that, and save the 9 PG on that thing. You could even upgrade to a ADV cloak and throw on a Compact hive. i run scanners for my squad and they run all the other logi gear when i play with my regular squad
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
253
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:21:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: i run scanners for my squad and they run all the other logi gear when i play with my regular squad
Pass that job to a Gal Logi - you can still spot for him and tell him where to scan.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1490
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Posted - 2014.03.22 08:03:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote: Numbers are rounded in DUST, specifics are not disclosed. protofits just does the math, which is not 100% reliable.
Appia Vibbia wrote: ....math, which is not 100% reliable.
Not something you hear everyday!
Taking things out of context like a boss makes me happy.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1754
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:59:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Are there issues with the protofits stats? Someone's trying to tell me it has all the profiles wrong and any ewar theory building will be way off. Numbers are rounded in DUST, specifics are not disclosed. protofits just does the math, which is not 100% reliable.
17.85 dB - Precision of Max-Skill CalScout w/2 Cmp Precision Enchancers 17.72 dB - Profile Max-Skill GalScout w/1 Cmp Damp 18.49 dB - Profile of Max-Skill MinScout w/2 Cmp Damps (Math Courtesy of Protofits)
If rounding does not apply, or rounding to the nearest tenth: Cal scans Min, Gal evades Cal
If rounded to the nearest whole number, and ties favor hunter: Cal scans Gal and Min
If rounded to the nearest whole number, and ties favor hunted: Gal and Min evade Cal
If rounded to the nearest 0.5 (good eye, Appia): Cal scans Min, Gal evades Cal |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
980
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Posted - 2014.03.22 14:31:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Are there issues with the protofits stats? Someone's trying to tell me it has all the profiles wrong and any ewar theory building will be way off.
There's also the issue of the Bolt Pistol Proficiency applying to every weapon.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2491
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:15:00 -
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Appia, I realise you may be referring to my posts but I should probably clarify - I do not think proto gals have TOO much fittings room; I have just been saying that they have A LOT MORE than any other scout suit up until now. I think proto gals are relatively alright for fittings, especially with the much nicer slot layout - the other suits have just been suffering more.
Looking at some of the protofits I've seen for 1.8, the proto gal scout looks ridiculous. You can fit SO much on that suit it will easily compete with logis for best fittings capability. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing or that it shouldn't be that way but it will certainly be outperforming the gal assault in 1.8 - i.e. assault stats are probably going to need some buffing; my suggestion if so will be base eHP only though.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1017
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Posted - 2014.03.22 17:35:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Appia, I realise you may be referring to my posts but I should probably clarify - I do not think proto gals have TOO much fittings room; I have just been saying that they have A LOT MORE than any other scout suit up until now. I think proto gals are relatively alright for fittings, especially with the much nicer slot layout - the other suits have just been suffering more.
Looking at some of the protofits I've seen for 1.8, the proto gal scout looks ridiculous. You can fit SO much on that suit it will easily compete with logis for best fittings capability. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing or that it shouldn't be that way but it will certainly be outperforming the gal assault in 1.8 - i.e. assault stats are probably going to need some buffing; my suggestion if so will be base eHP only though. Its no match for the caldari scout, the range is now useless and the dampening is a useful but not interesting bonus.
Assassination is my thing.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2492
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Posted - 2014.03.22 17:42:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Django Quik wrote:Appia, I realise you may be referring to my posts but I should probably clarify - I do not think proto gals have TOO much fittings room; I have just been saying that they have A LOT MORE than any other scout suit up until now. I think proto gals are relatively alright for fittings, especially with the much nicer slot layout - the other suits have just been suffering more.
Looking at some of the protofits I've seen for 1.8, the proto gal scout looks ridiculous. You can fit SO much on that suit it will easily compete with logis for best fittings capability. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing or that it shouldn't be that way but it will certainly be outperforming the gal assault in 1.8 - i.e. assault stats are probably going to need some buffing; my suggestion if so will be base eHP only though. Its no match for the caldari scout, the range is now useless and the dampening is a useful but not interesting bonus. The cal scout only gets 2 low slots at proto, so making the most of that scan range is the gallente's game.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Ninja Troll
General Tso's Alliance
116
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:24:00 -
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This may have been mentioned already, but I just noticed the stats for the Amarr light frames. http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type?typeName=light
Std Amarr Light - http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/364810 Main difference is the armour is 130HP and shield is 100HP. It could be a typo, but it's the same for adv and pro. Think the Amarr & Gal light frames will be used by players that don't want to invest SP into Scouts.
Noticed the militia light suits are similar to std light frames, but with 1 equip slot. Which means we can make decent cheap fits. I'll probably get the other standard light frames for both my characters.
Recall someone asking about the Dragonfly Scout BPO suit. Dragonfly- http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/355430 There's other BPO suits listed- http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type?typeName=scout
The standard Gal Scout is currently listed as having only 1 equip slot. http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/352587 It must be a typo, since the other standard Scout suits have 2 listed.
Video of CCP Devs vs community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2528
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:34:00 -
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Great find Edit:also answered something I have always wondered aboutGǪ 200 health bleed out this means 200 overkill damage prevents bleed out. It also means that my Min scout has more bleed out health than active health
KRRROOOOOOM
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