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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:30:00 -
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Haerr wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Haerr from I understand all that stuff rounds up anyway. So even if you have 17.01 your dB is still 18. I can't remember seeing this before... are you sure? FYI currently a Gk.0 with 4x C.P.D.s lands close to 14.2 and is not detected by the focused scanner (15), but if you want to check grab two suits with the same dB of precision enhancement and profile dampening and check if they can see each other on the tac net. I suppose its based on assumption from EVE. Those sorts of decimal numbers get rounded up. But perhaps its more based on server ticks. Which precision wouldn't be effected.
So something like hack speed won't matter if you cant' get it below 2, you will always hack in 3 seconds (server ticks). Which explains why it "looks" like you finished hacking if you die at a console and it doesn't actually finish. IF CCP would share the tick rate that would be nice.
Suppose this is something that needs to be either confirmed via dev/CPM or through our own experiments. Also it may round to the nearest integer rather than just up which I have learned from EVE.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2374
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:32:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Haerr wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Haerr from I understand all that stuff rounds up anyway. So even if you have 17.01 your dB is still 18. I can't remember seeing this before... are you sure? FYI currently a Gk.0 with 4x C.P.D.s lands close to 14.2 and is not detected by the focused scanner (15), but if you want to check grab two suits with the same dB of precision enhancement and profile dampening and check if they can see each other on the tac net. I suppose its based on assumption from EVE. Those sorts of decimal numbers get rounded up. But perhaps its more based on server ticks. Which precision wouldn't be effected. So something like hack speed won't matter if you cant' get it below 2, you will always hack in 3 seconds (server ticks). Which explains why it "looks" like you finished hacking if you die at a console and it doesn't actually finish. Suppose this is something that needs to be either confirmed via dev/CPM or through our own experiments. Also it may round to the nearest integer rather than just up which I have learned from EVE. GAR! The finished hack not finishing is one of the most annoying things!
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:04:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Is anyone else laughing about the whole push to use ****** suits to meet the million clone thingamajig?
thanks! I'll just oblige and kill all of them and look bad ass for once. You know.. help them fulfill the million clone death.
And what knifer doesn't slash down the dead to make sure they can't be rezzed? Scout 101 right there.
O.M.G
You've only just made me realise the amount of shotgun OHKs I am going to get...
@Appia - you've kinda ruined my perception that everything I am currently using is 1.8 proof - I run STD most of the time anyway I guess...
The Ghost of Bravo
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:30:00 -
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Cloak devblog up in the next minute or so
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:36:00 -
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4 games in a row with a 10-15 kill and 9-13 death range per match.
I think I'm doing my part.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
840
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:40:00 -
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CLOAKING DEV BLOG
Doesn't really expand much on what we already knew. Does include pretty pictures though. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3421
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:54:00 -
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Driftward wrote:CLOAKING DEV BLOGDoesn't really expand much on what we already knew. Does include pretty pictures though.
Important NOTICES!
You do NOT decloak when hacking an objective.
You are basically INVISIBLE when standing still. (Find the scout guys, he is in there)
In CQC, you will NOT be able to move without people noticing. At longer distances, you will still be fairly hard to detect. If you are trying to hide, DO NOT MOVE. THEY WILL NEVER SEE YOU
Also, here is a new gif to use when you want to "Nope" out of a thread lol
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:27:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Yan Darn wrote:@Appia - you've kinda ruined my perception that everything I am currently using is 1.8 proof - I run STD most of the time anyway I guess... I don't really know what you mean, but Muhuwahaha! I ruined something
Shotgun. 4 posts. Math.
Also, i'm sure you ruin a lot of things.
On cloaking - did they ever mention needing a 50% charge to activate before? That seems somewhat interesting. Also I am fully expecting the hack while cloaked feature to be nerfed in the future.
In any case, very glad fall damage/jumping doesn't deactivate cloak (a little concerned whether shimmer is applied while falling though...).
Would love to see GIF of someone sprinting cloaked at roughly 30m range - right now, it seems like greatest benefit will be the lack of name/chevron since visually it seems as much if not more noticeable...
They mention on hit VFX being displayed - I take it this means being fired upon doesn't decloak you?
Lastly, no mention of SFX on cloak/decloak...
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Appia Vibbia
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:34:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote: On cloaking - did they ever mention needing a 50% charge to activate before? That seems somewhat interesting. Also I am fully expecting the hack while cloaked feature to be nerfed in the future.
In any case, very glad fall damage/jumping doesn't deactivate cloak (a little concerned whether shimmer is applied while falling though...).
Would love to see GIF of someone sprinting cloaked at roughly 30m range - right now, it seems like greatest benefit will be the lack of name/chevron since visually it seems as much if not more noticeable...
They mention on hit VFX being displayed - I take it this means being fired upon doesn't decloak you?
Lastly, no mention of SFX on cloak/decloak...
Bold: this is new information
I mentioned this in the NN cloak thread at the same time you posted this here
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:21:00 -
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Honestly I see this as more of a hit and run style approach with it being able to go invisible while standing still. Will be interesting to see how well it works to hit cloak, run around a corner, get on top of boxes, bail off a bridge etc and stand still.
Being cloaked while hacking control points wont be that big of a deal...its not like you will be hard to hit. Hacking other things...yes very important, CRUS, ddpots and turrets.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:24:00 -
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I'm astounded (in a good way) that we're being allowed to hack whilst cloaked! :)
I might actually use the cloak afterall. Imagine just slinking into a deeply defended enemy objective stacked up with codebreakers. Before they know what's happened the hack's finished, an RE is down, cloak's back up and I'm skedaddled outta there! It's going to be hell defending now!
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Ghetto Troll
Nos Nothi
25
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:54:00 -
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Frequent and random disconnects today during matches that weren't lagging. Hope it's just me, otherwise the million clone challenge could fail if it's happening to everyone else. CCP could be trying to sabotage the event!
The cloak should be fun, but I'm expecting many bugs for the first few weeks.
Thanks Monk for letting me borrow your grenade last night. haha o7
Ninja Troll is more ninja than troll
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:56:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:I am fully expecting the hack while cloaked feature to be nerfed in the future.
I really don't think they will nerf it. Anyone with a brain will be able to figure out someone is cloaked hacking the point, unless they made it so you are stealth hacking it. By that I mean the letter won't flash and the opposing team won't be notified until the point suddenly goes to the other team. |
Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:02:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Yan Darn wrote:I am fully expecting the hack while cloaked feature to be nerfed in the future.
I really don't think they will nerf it. Anyone with a brain will be able to figure out someone is cloaked hacking the point, unless they made it so you are stealth hacking it. By that I mean the letter won't flash and the opposing team won't be notified until the point suddenly goes to the other team.
The objectives aren't going to be an issue. There's a very limited space where you could be hacking.
The issue arises when you talk about CRUs and supply depots. Cloak scouts can very easily hack anywhere on these and you won't know which specific cru/depot is being hacked anyways. My analysis anyways. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:06:00 -
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Driftward wrote:BARDAS wrote:Yan Darn wrote:I am fully expecting the hack while cloaked feature to be nerfed in the future.
I really don't think they will nerf it. Anyone with a brain will be able to figure out someone is cloaked hacking the point, unless they made it so you are stealth hacking it. By that I mean the letter won't flash and the opposing team won't be notified until the point suddenly goes to the other team. The objectives aren't going to be an issue. There's a very limited space where you could be hacking. The issue arises when you talk about CRUs and supply depots. Cloak scouts can very easily hack anywhere on these and you won't know which specific cru/depot is being hacked anyways. My analysis anyways. Same thoughts here Just looking forward to hacking a CRU without a Heavy spawning in blasting me right away
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
529
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:56:00 -
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I wonder how easily it a cloaked scout will be to be seen in the craziness of CQC.
I am really tempted to create my "Sugar Ray" fit and see what happens.
Stack Myofybrils (which I probably butchered the spelling of), tossing a flux, and then beating the hell out of someone.
Its probably not feasible, but it sounds really fun.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
530
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:08:00 -
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Double posting like a Kaiser.
I wish they would have shown pictures of a sprint at a distance, though I guess I can wait until 1.8...
And while you will be invisible while hacking, all a red has to do is be smart enough to dance around an objective and wait for a red rectical. Assuming they are smart enough.
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:12:00 -
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Who does preflux a hack anyways? The CRUs and depots... I'm typically out of sight to people when I am hacking those anyways.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Appia Vibbia
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:02:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Who does preflux a hack anyways? The CRUs and depots... I'm typically out of sight to people when I am hacking those anyways.
In PC, I'll run Gal-Logi, with my 4 EQ slots, I have boundless REs, f/45 REs, Allotek nanohive, allotek stable dropuplink
I toss an RE on the point, 2 just outside the null cannon, and 1 where people generally like to throw their fluxes from. Then I take my F/45s and I plant them on the nearby CRU. As soon as I see that read text telling me someoe is having the CRU I blow the F/45s. While I usually don't even have to bother detonating the boundless ones myself
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:06:00 -
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So, i was in a match alongside Bojo against Aero, True and Patrick among others. I go around sploding things with my Re's then I switch suits, not realising I still had one down.
5 minutes later a "Kill+50" shows up, I look at the kill feed and see that Patrick managed to blow himself up with my explosive. Thanks Paddy
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:14:00 -
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Spademan wrote:So, i was in a match alongside Bojo against Aero, True and Patrick among others. I go around sploding things with my Re's then I switch suits, not realising I still had one down. 5 minutes later a "Kill+50" shows up, I look at the kill feed and see that Patrick managed to blow himself up with my explosive. Thanks Paddy
This is why he needs a babysitter.
You can't take him anywhere...
Although the one match I was with him in, he went 11/1.
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
730
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:02:00 -
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Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak.
Knowledge is power
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:06:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak. where did they release info on the cloak? if i could get a link id really appreciate it
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
730
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:14:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak. where did they release info on the cloak? if i could get a link id really appreciate it Notification here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=148003&find=unread
Dev blog here: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
542
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:25:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak.
This is my only issue with the cloak, which is mainly just an extension of my issue with the equipment wheel.
I hate having to switch from a weapon to equipment in an intense situation, because a lot of times that damn wheel isn't sensitive enough. Sure, it audibly signifies I have switched to REs, but then I am still holding my rifle. GRRRRRR.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2415
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:29:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Brokerib wrote:Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak. This is my only issue with the cloak, which is mainly just an extension of my issue with the equipment wheel. I hate having to switch from a weapon to equipment in an intense situation, because a lot of times that damn wheel isn't sensitive enough. Sure, it audibly signifies I have switched to REs, but then I am still holding my rifle. GRRRRRR. I only use the wheel to switch to equipment, everything else is quick tap to switch. Gotten pretty fast switch from EQ to Priamary, even secondary by double tap.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
544
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:53:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Brokerib wrote:Wow, the cloak actually looks pretty cool. Just dropping the chevron/health will be useful for travel, and it doesn't look like the shimmer will be massively noticeable, particularly if you're in an area with alot of cover.
Will be interesting to see how the transition to weapons works. If I can switch directly to my main weapon with no significant delay (same speed as weapon swaps now), then putting a NK in the light slot could be very effctive for kills out of cloak. This is my only issue with the cloak, which is mainly just an extension of my issue with the equipment wheel. I hate having to switch from a weapon to equipment in an intense situation, because a lot of times that damn wheel isn't sensitive enough. Sure, it audibly signifies I have switched to REs, but then I am still holding my rifle. GRRRRRR. I only use the wheel to switch to equipment, everything else is quick tap to switch. Gotten pretty fast switch from EQ to Primary, even Secondary by double tap.
This is what I usually do to. But then I see that an objective with my REs is being hacked while I am respawning (which seems to take many more than the 10 seconds after death). And I spawn, and fight with the wheel, and boom! Nothing happens, its too late .
I see this same issue happening with the cloak.
Cyclops rex wrote: Damn! I have been spotted in the open! Time to cloak!
*insert 0.2 second fight with the wheel*
Annnnd.....dead.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:54:00 -
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Aye I can see that happening
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:08:00 -
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Ok, I know nobody cares what my sig is about - but I just felt I earned the title again.
Went 25/1 holding bravo (it's not always bravo, but the best objectives for ninja guarding is usually bravo...) in my Valor fit - REs/shotgun/ScP... I know I'm not the only one who finds this sort of thing just sooooo much fun, and I think the event is gonna make it much better (MLT/BPO fits \o/)
- jumping behind the red squad entering the point, OHKing the lot...
- waiting ready for a ScP headshot on that wounded assault who thinks they are about to enter safe cover
- detonating an RE (that you kinda accidentally placed a while ago) because you can see a red dot about to run over it on your extended passive...
Does any other role makes you feel this good about being such a **** (that's the 'C' word btw...)?
We are going to be hated so much in 1.8...
<3 scouts
The Ghost of Bravo
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
733
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:10:00 -
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Agreed. But quick change from cloak to a weapon on the other hand...
If its just one button tap to go from cloak to knifewith a smooth transition, you can go from invisible to 1hk in less than a second.
Or the ability too go straight into a grenade, then ending up with you're main weapon in hand.
Could make for some very interesting ambush situations.
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