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J0LLY R0G3R
0uter.Heaven
540
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Posted - 2014.02.28 02:22:00 -
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Magnus the Wolf wrote:
Where is this video of which you speak?
http://youtu.be/wB8QKV_fwuQ
Was a chance we were going to win on mcc but I thought this had a chance of being a lil better win side note: sometimes u have to ignore squad mates saying not to rush in. XD
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
163
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:33:00 -
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So i spec into assault dropships and i love them, problem is i can only fly well in 1p view. So i miss out out on a lot of kills i could get . Also it is so expensive 15 million isk gone in less than 3 hours .
I'm still above 5 million SP
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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J0LLY R0G3R
0uter.Heaven
541
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Posted - 2014.02.28 03:53:00 -
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Last thing for the night lol, so I'm finally going to have enough SP to get my SG to prof 5. Was thinking bout doin a quick vid going through exactly how fast the sg will shoot. first with no prof in it then 1-5. Thoughts on the sg to use? Breach, CRG, ..? or would it really matter.
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2130
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:00:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Last thing for the night lol, so I'm finally going to have enough SP to get my SG to prof 5. Was thinking bout doin a quick vid going through exactly how fast the sg will shoot. first with no prof in it then 1-5. Thoughts on the sg to use? Breach, CRG, ..? or would it really matter. Could you do Regular and Breach, I would be interested in seeing the difference on both.
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2461
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:07:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Last thing for the night lol, so I'm finally going to have enough SP to get my SG to prof 5. Was thinking bout doin a quick vid going through exactly how fast the sg will shoot. first with no prof in it then 1-5. Thoughts on the sg to use? Breach, CRG, ..? or would it really matter.
Do you find it even makes a difference? I went to prof 3 before I gave up on the skill.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:07:00 -
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One thing I think that was missed in all the 1.8 shotgun vs heavy discussion is the cloak. Since it is a piece of equipment, and you can still throw fluxes and other grenades while holding other equipment like weapons, you should be able to flux a heavy while cloaked.
THEN you can pick the opportune time to switch to a shotgun and finish the job.
I have never used a shotgun in this game, so take the advice with a grain of salt. Maybe someone else could explain how this would in fact NOT work.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2461
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:09:00 -
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I find I am stealing at least one tank a day from the enemy. I know it is a product of tanks being so cheap, as well as me being a fast scout getting to objectives first to find a dude left his tank to hack the first objective.
But today I stole one from a guy getting it delivered halfway through the match. For the first time I had a great time in a tank. I ran around the whole match in a rail tank with 2x dam mods on it. I was blowing **** up without a care in the world! I had given up on tanks being fun until now
I wish I could have kept it!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3346
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:09:00 -
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Just sabotaged a friendly CRU. We were getting stomped and I got killed near this CRU so I spawn in, slap two REs near the CRU, heavy puills up in an LAV, almost gets me but I sneak away. VikingCheechiBunghole is on the other side of the CRU when I left and I go to detonate.
Got him and another one. Protosuits downed!
Not a big accomplishment but RE's are too fun.
Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
435
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:53:00 -
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I had some fun with a tank and REs yesterday.
I was tired of tanks taking off when I get one or two REs on them. I thought, why not try a different tactic?
Since tanks often take off backwards when I get behind them, or when they take damage from the front, I thought I would set all 3 REs a few meters behind the tank, where he couldn't see me. Then I threw a flux at his front. At first, it did not work , as he just drove forward into the building.
But wait, he didn't bother turning on hardeners or anything and backs out looking for the poor soul who tried to mess with him.
And he parked right over the REs.
That was easily my favorite tank kill.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3349
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Posted - 2014.02.28 06:15:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I had some fun with a tank and REs yesterday. I was tired of tanks taking off when I get one or two REs on them. I thought, why not try a different tactic? Since tanks often take off backwards when I get behind them, or when they take damage from the front, I thought I would set all 3 REs a few meters behind the tank, where he couldn't see me. Then I threw a flux at his front. At first, it did not work , as he just drove forward into the building. But wait, he didn't bother turning on hardeners or anything and backs out looking for the poor soul who tried to mess with him. And he parked right over the REs. That was easily my favorite tank kill. Nice, back in the day before 1.7 that's how you had to do it. My favorite tank kill was 6 REs instapopping a Sagaris. Then when he came hunting me I popped him with an RE at the top of stairs
Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
628
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Posted - 2014.02.28 06:15:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:I've decided to skim the beginning of this thread for history and tips. Just finished page 56 and should be at page 500 by the 1.8 release (April?).
Can't help but feel fortunate that I started playing DUST in mid-November. Not sure how I'd cope with the BS that you guys had to deal with.
I enjoyed the videos by Jolly and Cyrius. I learned some movement tips by watching IgniteableAura's SG montage. Plan on watching their other videos this week.
Later I'll be sending an app to Nos Nothi from my original character, Ghetto Troll. I'd like to keep this character available for Corps that do PC matches when I reach proto.
Glad u enjoyed them. I haven't posted many videos lately. Got a bit burnt out on dust. Honestly the scout was great for about two months....then everything was broken. Good luck reading the whole thread...it's a novel
Thanks for the thief review Grom.
Also 1.8 seems to be ccps "big news" at fan fest. So I am not holding my breath for a release until a month after Fanfest.
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
Youtube
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
142
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Posted - 2014.02.28 06:21:00 -
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Since my main role is a heavy even with the buff REs are still a cause for concern. It'd reduce me down to a very easy to kill level, probably around 400 armour, you'd likely wipe my logi in the process and I'd basically have to leave. That time taken to leave, and then get repped and get back in is probably more strategically useful than an outright kill as I'm just 10sec on the nearest uplink away. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
2130
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Posted - 2014.02.28 06:44:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Since my main role is a heavy even with the buff REs are still a cause for concern. It'd reduce me down to a very easy to kill level, probably around 400 armour, you'd likely wipe my logi in the process and I'd basically have to leave. That time taken to leave, and then get repped and get back in is probably more strategically useful than an outright kill as I'm just 10sec on the nearest uplink away. Nice to have that perspective.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1215
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:32:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Also 1.8 seems to be ccps "big news" at fan fest. So I am not holding my breath for a release until a month after Fanfest. That seems way too much for a patch, it'd be a few extra months of waiting when these patches are supposed come in one month cycles. Yeah, the holidays delayed things a bit, but having to wait until April when they have been working on this patch for two months now is just too long.
I mean, 1.8 is just a patch, not an expansion like Uprising originally was. My bet is that they'll announce the next expansions for DUST as well as EVE at FanFest.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2296
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:18:00 -
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DaNizzle4shizle wrote:i can take down a heavy with a few shots from my RR. its not that hard Well, you'll have a much harder time doing that in 1.8 when RRs get nerfed, heavies are running around with 2000hp and resistances on top of that.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2299
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:33:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I find I am stealing at least one tank a day from the enemy. I know it is a product of tanks being so cheap, as well as me being a fast scout getting to objectives first to find a dude left his tank to hack the first objective. But today I stole one from a guy getting it delivered halfway through the match. For the first time I had a great time in a tank. I ran around the whole match in a rail tank with 2x dam mods on it. I was blowing **** up without a care in the world! I had given up on tanks being fun until now I wish I could have kept it! I had a fantastic PC match against Academy Inferno last week, where I was solely responsible for the death of 3 enemy tanks!
The first was an easy sneak up behind and RE him up, flux then boom. The second, he'd gotten low on shield at his home point, so ran off to try to recall - I chased him until he stopped behind a nearby tower and SMGd the heavy as he was trying to recall. I start planting REs on it only to see that he'd already called in a new tank to replace it! It's like F'ing Christmas and birthday at once! Knowing I didn't have enough REs to blow them both, I hopped in the new one, railed the old one to death then went roaming.
Unfortunately, I have next to no idea what I'm doing in a tank, so when I roll past the home objective a blaster maddy appears behind me and destroys me in about 3 seconds. If I'd been more tanker alert, I would have noticed him shooting an installation a few hundred meters away and could have been ready for him to round that corner. Nonetheless - that was my 3rd tank downed in one PC and I call that victory (we did also win btw).
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
283
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:35:00 -
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DaNizzle4shizle wrote:i can take down a heavy with a few shots from my RR. its not that hard
Can't tell if serious...
Spec into and start using RRs? The idea is repulsive (and a little unsound at this point considering the proposed nerf...).
You guys have convinced me though - I do have a lot of fun with REs, I guess I'm just overreacting to the fact that:
1: the idea that hackers might survive rigged consoles :sadface:
2: When hastily throwing down an RE to avoid a pursuing heavy - sometimes they have to actually turn the corner before I can detonate and just the split second of fire they put out before being exploded nearly kills me...
The concern is a little silly I guess, most suits are gettin buffs - yes, but in comparison, only the commando is really getting the relatively high level of buffage we are.
Whatever difficulties I face in 1.8 - I doubt it'll compare to what I've endured in the past 7 months.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1217
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:58:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:You guys have convinced me though - I do have a lot of fun with REs, I guess I'm just overreacting to the fact that:
1: the idea that hackers might survive rigged consoles :sadface:
2: When hastily throwing down an RE when avoiding a pursuing heavy - sometimes they have to actually turn the corner before I can detonate and just the split second of fire they put out before being exploded nearly kills me...
The concern is a little silly I guess, most suits are gettin buffs - yes, but in comparison, only the commando is really getting the relatively high level of buffage we are.
Whatever difficulties I face in 1.8 - I doubt it'll compare to what I've endured in the past 7 months. I have the same concern as well, but I'll just have to adapt into the situation. I think if a heavy survives my RE blast, I'll try to move in with my shotgun to try and finish him off, depending how low on health he is. Otherwise I'll just have to retreat and engage from a more advantageous position.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
144
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:23:00 -
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Which heavy has 2000 hp? A brick tanked all level 5 Gal will have 1810, and that's assuming they put an extender in the high and not a damage mod.
You can already tank out a Amarr Sentinel to 1867, after 1.8 that'll go down to 1790. Again this is assuming you put extenders in the highs, not damage mods.
The sentinel small arms fire resistances only work against half of the weapon types. So a RR and CR will both ignore the Caldari and Minnie resistances as they resist Blasters and Lasers. So it'll be a matter of using the best weapon based on the Sentinels suit, the CR is probably best for trying to take down a Gal sentinel as while it's resistant to projectiles, the normal bonus to armour will somewhat overcome it.
Trying to take down a Cal sentinel with MD splash damage will be a bad idea (2285 EHP), ScR would be better (1671 EHP) though a flux will wipe those shields nicely :)
Our CEO did a nice analysis of this here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1705662#post1705662
Personally I think this is great, that way, new weapon becomes FotM and rather than joining the masses to compete, we can change what suit we wear to negate it. Oh look ScR is op again, time to use Gal, now its CR, use the Amarr!
Personally I think these sorts of resistances should apply to everyone. That way rather than CCP having to nerf something, we can do it ourselves.
It'll be interesting to see heavy on heavy violence though, as despite the gal having higher HP the EHP against a HMG will be Amarr 1905 Gal 1852. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2299
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:51:00 -
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I've not done calculations on what max hp would be - that was a kinda throwaway remark but it's not all that far off if the max is 1810.
However, talking about 'using the best weapon for the job" is pretty meaningless when it comes down to the battlefield. I'm not running around trying to work out what race a suit is before it kills me, especially on the tight city areas, and I doubt many others are either. And even then, if I do realise in time that it's a caldari heavy and I've got a scrambler equipped, I can't just switch to a CR there and then - I'd have to find a supply depot and by the time I'm back to find that heavy everything will have changed.
Plus your talk is all assuming it's going to be easy to move between suits and weapons, when actually most players only have a couple of suits and a couple of weapons skilled up to a high level. It's not going to be easy for people to just move away from the suit that is most damaged by the FOTM OP weapon - that sort of change can only happen slowly for most, by which time everything has changed again.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
144
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:05:00 -
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That is true Django, but it encourages a more fleshed out squad, all 6 running the same suit and weapon will put them at a disadvantage, while getting a truly well rounded squad can be difficult I think it should be rewarded, and as I said, I'd like to see these sorts of bonuses be more of a factor for all suits in the future.
Also these are completely tanked out Proto suits, Your RE will still kill standard heavies in one go I think, and advanced suits might survive just.
Besides, I don't think any of these bonuses will impact NKs haha |
Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1357
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:14:00 -
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mollerz wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Last thing for the night lol, so I'm finally going to have enough SP to get my SG to prof 5. Was thinking bout doin a quick vid going through exactly how fast the sg will shoot. first with no prof in it then 1-5. Thoughts on the sg to use? Breach, CRG, ..? or would it really matter. Do you find it even makes a difference? I went to prof 3 before I gave up on the skill.
A slight increase in Fire Rate is observable every two levels. I can't say I noticed a big difference between IV and V.
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Ivan Avogadro
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
821
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:32:00 -
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I might just dump into SG Prof lvl 3 to lvl 5 and be done with it then. I'm sitting on 3.6mil for a Proto Warden with a cloak in 1.8. But it's hard looking at all that SP sit on the vine while CCP twiddles and twaddles and maybe releases this month if they feel like it. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
871
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:44:00 -
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I'm starting a write-up of the scout timeline, currently reading through the thread (I'll be here a while) for major events but if there's anything ya'll think should go in it'd be great if you could post a link to it or something.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3353
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:48:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I find I am stealing at least one tank a day from the enemy. I know it is a product of tanks being so cheap, as well as me being a fast scout getting to objectives first to find a dude left his tank to hack the first objective. But today I stole one from a guy getting it delivered halfway through the match. For the first time I had a great time in a tank. I ran around the whole match in a rail tank with 2x dam mods on it. I was blowing **** up without a care in the world! I had given up on tanks being fun until now I wish I could have kept it! Yesterday I took a Sica with two Hardeners, one armor one shield, one damage mod. This other tank was just coming up to the HAV i was hacking and when I hacked it, I jumped in and completely took the other tank by surprise. By the time his shield hardeners were up I was digging into armor with that railgun. He didn't even get a shot off on me, just murdered it.
Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
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DaNizzle4shizle
622
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:01:00 -
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i put remotes on the back of a soma, got on and tea-bagged it. then it killed me so i just blew it up once i spawned. i will never use that RE exploit glitch. dishonor to those who exploit it..
Forum Warrior lvl 0.6. yes...... i do keep track of my milestones :)
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Ghetto Troll
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:35:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:I've decided to skim the beginning of this thread for history and tips. Just finished page 56 and should be at page 500 by the 1.8 release (April?). I clicked my notifications and saw it was for something back on page 50 or so. Good luck getting through those pages man. Maybe u'll actually be able to keep up with it. Reading it every day or so still got me lost when it jumped 10 or so pages in a day. XD It's actually going quicker than expected. I passed page 100 yesterday, usually read at night to fall asleep. Most of the posts are short replies and quoted conversations.
Some of the upcoming 1.8 weapons and features were mentioned last September. CCP are master trolls. o7
I just seen Nos Nothi forum and there's so much info. Look forward to reading it and learning more.
Ninja Troll is a noob.
Please stand still so he can get WP.
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
286
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:40:00 -
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On the subject of tanks...
Yesterday I was in match with Lightning and another RON1N member - at the beginning of the match, it was the older 3 point map (you know the one...) - we spawned Bravo side and I headed to Charlie to set uplinks in my suicide uplink fit I always start with. I randomly stumbled upon a couple of assaults and forge gunner setting up a defensive position on the hill behind - I took them out and as it happens, someone must have called a tank.
I begged someone else to take it but Lightning convinced me to have fun with it - so whatever - I hate driving these things (i normally just leave them to blues or basically force the enemy tanks to destroy it) but I got in.
I was turning on harderners and after burners randomly getting my movement and turret control all mixed up tryin to reverse up hills and getting stuck and ****. In the mean time the enemy was bringing forges and swarms etc. The other two were flanking the mini horde bein sent for me while I desperately tried to figure out how to shoot straight (it didn't help that I was 'under the influence' either...).
Here is the thing - I'm worse than a complete noob at tanking - that tank survived under multiple AV attackers for a good 5-10 mins, I only lost it because I purposefully drove it directly into enemy fire/red line (even then, I think I ejected a bit prematurely).
Everyone knows there is an issue with tanks/AV - but this is the first time I really thought, '...tanks are OP'.
EDIT: I'm sure I owe my overall survival to The RON1N - but you get the pictur.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1006
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Posted - 2014.02.28 18:07:00 -
[10649] - Quote
yeah thats the one.
Also notable for demonstration of stairway evilness technique
And Jolly: yeah, that Manus Peak incident was me |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
629
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Posted - 2014.02.28 18:49:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Also 1.8 seems to be ccps "big news" at fan fest. So I am not holding my breath for a release until a month after Fanfest. That seems way too much for a patch, it'd be a few extra months of waiting when these patches are supposed come in one month cycles. Yeah, the holidays delayed things a bit, but having to wait until April when they have been working on this patch for two months now is just too long. I mean, 1.8 is just a patch, not an expansion like Uprising originally was. My bet is that they'll announce the next expansions for DUST as well as EVE at FanFest.
1.8 is waaaay more than a patch my friend. It's full racial parity. Something we have been waiting on since uprising. April is not that far away....the devs haven't even released patch notes or put out dev blogs for 1.8.
1.8 wil have the largest content drop to date.
I guess you have far more faith in ccp to deliver two updates in 2 months than I do.
Yes ccp will have future stuff to hint at Fanfest. But I bet the big news will be the full details of 1.8. There just isn't enough time for two big releases.
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
Youtube
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