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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2409
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:19:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Also, quad post! I'm better than Ghost.
Wow. I never thought someone would beat that.
Score to beat is 4 now. Don't try and do this intentionally, just let the double posts happen naturally.
EDIT: Actually, you only got a triple.
Llast did a C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
371
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:20:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:Marad''er wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:since we're talking speculative respec here, I am thinking the Amarr scout looks neat but I'd want to switch from shield to armor tanking. Are ferroscale and reactive plates as nice as they look on paper? No currently ferroscale and reactive are garbage compared to regular plates whats wrong with them? I know regular plate gives significantly more HP but at a speed penalty I dont really want to incur (especially since Amarr is the slowest fattest scout to start with). Are the ferroscale just too expensive for the HP? Fitting cost is high on Ferro, but that does not appear to be an issue for the Amarr scout, so the may work well. If you don't want to slow down it's a good option. A Basic Reactive is a staple on my Gal now, to avoid the slow down and give a little rep. Though with the Amarr being built the way it is fitting a higher tier Rep may be a better choice. A lot of how to fit it really depends on your style. If you are going full combat scout, really Marauder would have a better idea than me. Ferro and Reactive are so terrible. You're better off putting in an armor repair module that that garbage. Until/unless the fittings costs are equalized ferroscale are just so bad. 2 enhanced plates, a dampener and a repair mod would put you at 4.93m/s move and 7.26 sprint for 241 extra armor. Or with your 2 EQ slots dedicate one to an armor repair nanohive and trade the armor repair for a biotic mod for stamina or sprint speed. Or say F-it and go basic dampener + 3 complex plates. 4.22 movement and 6.2 m/s sprint. for 445 extra armor Or, go for broke and run 4 complex plates and use a basic cloak for dampening and a wyirkomi triage nanohive. 3.92 movement, 5.77 sprint, 594 extra HP Also keep in mind that biotics will offset the armor plate penalty. Two enhanced armor plates with level 5 biotics means you're 1% slower instead of 6%. |
Kelc Ct'elpem
Nos Nothi
82
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:39:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Kelc Ct'elpem wrote:Don't forget the damage modsGǪ Appia loves her Damage mods You say that like there are other things you can put in your high slots. Well, yeah you could useGǪ umm.. err.. yeah and those.. gah. So yeah lot's of options.
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
839
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Posted - 2014.01.29 03:09:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Kelc Ct'elpem wrote:Don't forget the damage modsGǪ Appia loves her Damage mods You say that like there are other things you can put in your high slots. I was going to say shields, but then I remembered that Appia runs Gallente, and shields are optional. My min scout has to run shields or he dies before he can use his damage mods
Hey, I got my Minmatar Scout Operations to level 3 on Sunday. And I totally run 2 complex sidearm damage mods that that baby. sweet, sweet damage output to make up for only have lvl 3 NK and lvl 3 min ops. From that 150 per swipe to 205 so good.
though I didn't really need it as I went 27/13 with just standard suit and zn-28
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
375
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Posted - 2014.01.29 03:49:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote: But the Ion Pistol is looking like an UP piece of crapGǪ so obviously I am leaning in that direction right now.
It's good to know I'm not the only person who has this sort of issue... |
Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
840
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:09:00 -
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I'm skilling into the ion pistol because it is gallente tech.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
979
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Posted - 2014.01.29 05:42:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Supra Advyn wrote:mollerz wrote:At 2m unallocated SP so far. Holding tight for 1.8 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Saving up 3.5 million skill points, got 1 banked so far 2.5 more to go. (new suits and guns to advanced and specialists) Yes. right in the middle ground, myself, 1.8 ml sp banked. I can do sooo much with it right now, hard to resist. Big changes coming for scouts.... Must stay focused Got a lot sitting and a lot I want to do with it come 1.8GǪ the siren call of shenanigans says spend it on the PLC max that outGǪ all of it. Trying to resistGǪ Resist. The bsc plc is good enough. I got level 2 for the bonus. I use the Fed. adv plc. (it's unlocked at level 1 plc op.) Fight for gal. and you can use it. Hold on to your sp.
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
120
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:02:00 -
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everyone knows the best combo is MLT heavy, STD plasma cannon, STD nova knives
Secretly Appia Vibbia
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:15:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:everyone knows the best combo is MLT heavy, STD plasma cannon, STD nova knives
One thing you do have ghost beat on is posting on your Nos Nothi alt
This scout thanks you CCP!!!
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
845
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:33:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:everyone knows the best combo is MLT heavy, STD plasma cannon, STD nova knives One thing you do have ghost beat on is posting on your Nos Nothi alt Hell yeah I do!
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
845
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:35:00 -
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I want to get Min-scout ops V and nova nives proficiency V so I can stack 3 complex sidearm damage mods on some ishukone nova knives and do 360/365 damage per swipe
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1087
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:40:00 -
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Wow, am I the only one that can't decide what scout to skill into upon respec? I am seriously tempted to skill up a few but that would make a hideously tedious SP grind if taken to high levels.
Hmmm......
I also wish the Ion pistol was cooler... on the upside at least it has the range of the current scrambler pistol, so it should be easy enough to get familiar with.... having all Gallente tech would be kind of cool. But using an AR? Man, that's so un-scoutly... and forget the shotgun....
Anyway, if the Ion pistol has a quiet charge-up (unlike the SCR), and a better ADS zoom than the ScP, then I could see trying to make some use of it.
I'd probably be tempted to dual wield that w/ a damage mod instead of using the AR or shotty. Yeah, what am I thinking - screw light weapons, what the hell is wrong with me. |
Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
846
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:59:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Wow, am I the only one that can't decide what scout to skill into upon respec? I am seriously tempted to skill up a few but that would make a hideously tedious SP grind if taken to high levels..
Or you can be like me and just get 3 proto off the bat and slowly grind out the Amarr Scout
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected]
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
371
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:23:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Wow, am I the only one that can't decide what scout to skill into upon respec? I am seriously tempted to skill up a few but that would make a hideously tedious SP grind if taken to high levels.
I'm definitely going Minmatar to start, but both the Gal and Cal scouts are very tempting as well. May end up with the Cal, I think, to replace my current assault scout fitout? Gal would be doubling up on the Mini in some ways, but it really is a good setup...
No Amarr though, because...Amarr. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2111
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:47:00 -
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In a way I personally really hope there isn't any respec but only because I can't be arsed to put all my 20M SP back into everything because the only thing I'd drop is the level 3 Gallente Medium skill I got at the start of Uprising before I discovered the joys of scouting.
Currently holding onto about 1.6M SP just for whatever when 1.8 comes out. For 1.7 I'm exactly where I want to be with all my skills but with all those extra slots and CPU, I might look at going into shield regs or something...
Also, dual sidearming on a CPU starved scout - that level 5 sidearms skill might just give you that extra 2 CPU you need to fit 2 complex damage mods and a complex repper on an advanced gal ;)
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Mordeth Bloodgrave
Nos Nothi
32
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:48:00 -
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I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!!
-Matthias, the funky Monk.
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
373
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Posted - 2014.01.29 09:01:00 -
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Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!!
I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2014.01.29 09:22:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!! I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout LOLZ you're obviously doing something wrong I have 16.2m sp, im about to get proto in 380k sp I have 3.2 mil in assault dropships, so your doing something wrong. Your probably speced in level 5 shields and armor, so, yea, 1 or the other
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
204
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Posted - 2014.01.29 09:42:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:Marad''er wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:since we're talking speculative respec here, I am thinking the Amarr scout looks neat but I'd want to switch from shield to armor tanking. Are ferroscale and reactive plates as nice as they look on paper? No currently ferroscale and reactive are garbage compared to regular plates whats wrong with them? I know regular plate gives significantly more HP but at a speed penalty I dont really want to incur (especially since Amarr is the slowest fattest scout to start with). Are the ferroscale just too expensive for the HP? Fitting cost is high on Ferro, but that does not appear to be an issue for the Amarr scout, so the may work well. If you don't want to slow down it's a good option. A Basic Reactive is a staple on my Gal now, to avoid the slow down and give a little rep. Though with the Amarr being built the way it is fitting a higher tier Rep may be a better choice. A lot of how to fit it really depends on your style. If you are going full combat scout, really Marauder would have a better idea than me. lol wut
Fatal Absolution bench proficiency lvl 5
why so serious zatara
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
231
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Posted - 2014.01.29 10:01:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!! I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout LOLZ you're obviously doing something wrong I have 16.2m sp, im about to get proto in 380k sp I have 3.2 mil in assault dropships, so your doing something wrong. Your probably speced in level 5 shields and armor, so, yea, 1 or the other Having lvl 5 in armor plates, armor reps, and shield extenders and an advanced suit is much better than a proto suit and only 1-2/3 of those skills.
The Gallente Assault, Amarr Sentinel, and Minmatar Scout are the only three that don't benefit significantly from all 3 (SEs for Gal and Amarr, ARs for minmatar). Going with just one or the other is majorly hindering the usefulness of any current proto dropsuit.
So, no, that isn't doing it wrong. I think you might be missing out on a bit. I utilize all three on my ADV Gallente scout, and it works very well. |
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
374
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Posted - 2014.01.29 10:11:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!! I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout LOLZ you're obviously doing something wrong I have 16.2m sp, im about to get proto in 380k sp I have 3.2 mil in assault dropships, so your doing something wrong. Your probably speced in level 5 shields and armor, so, yea, 1 or the other Medium/Assault dropsuit, not dropship. I'm currently at level 3 mimatar scout, so trading in the advanced assault dropsuit gives me back about 800k, while level 4 scout costs 690k.
Level 5 armor and shield upgrades, level 5 biotics, level 3 in core upgrades/electronics/engineering/shield extenders/armor plates/dampening/enhancement/precision/cardio/kincats, level 3 in a number of other module, equipment and weapon skills, and 4 weapons to proficiency 3.
Haven't needed anything more than advanced dropsuits so far, but the fitting requirements of cloaks for 1.8 makes the full bonus necessary if I want to keep my regular fits. But thanks for the advice |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:31:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!! I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout LOLZ you're obviously doing something wrong I have 16.2m sp, im about to get proto in 380k sp I have 3.2 mil in assault dropships, so your doing something wrong. Your probably speced in level 5 shields and armor, so, yea, 1 or the other Medium/Assault dropsuit, not dropship. I'm currently at level 3 mimatar scout, so trading in the advanced assault dropsuit gives me back about 800k, while level 4 scout costs 690k. Level 5 armor and shield upgrades, level 5 biotics, level 3 in core upgrades/electronics/engineering/shield extenders/armor plates/dampening/enhancement/precision/cardio/kincats, level 3 in a number of other module, equipment and weapon skills, and 4 weapons to proficiency 3. Haven't needed anything more than advanced dropsuits so far, but the fitting requirements of cloaks for 1.8 makes the full bonus necessary if I want to keep my regular fits. But thanks for the advice No, I mean assault dropships And wow you wasted so much sp Lol cardio sp Lol precision sp Lol proficiancy 3 with your sp on 4 weapons You only need level 4 armor and shield upgrades You only need level 3 in armor plates
You have much to learn.
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
374
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:46:00 -
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NK Scout wrote: No, I mean assault dropships And wow you wasted so much sp Lol cardio sp Lol precision sp Lol proficiancy 3 with your sp on 4 weapons You only need level 4 armor and shield upgrades You only need level 3 in armor plates
You have much to learn.
It must be an amazing to know the only viable skills build, you should patent that before word gets out.
2/10, would not read again. Just surprised you didn't ask 'do you even scout?'... |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:58:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:NK Scout wrote: No, I mean assault dropships And wow you wasted so much sp Lol cardio sp Lol precision sp Lol proficiancy 3 with your sp on 4 weapons You only need level 4 armor and shield upgrades You only need level 3 in armor plates
You have much to learn.
It must be an amazing to know the only viable skills build, you should patent that before word gets out. 2/10, would not read again. Just surprised you didn't ask 'do you even scout?'... No one uses cardios, kincats are better Complex plates arent worth it Scan precision isnt useful, what are you going to pick up? Only worth getting at 3, rather get more range
And level 5 plates cost too much sp for little improvement
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
375
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Posted - 2014.01.29 12:42:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:NK Scout wrote: No, I mean assault dropships And wow you wasted so much sp Lol cardio sp Lol precision sp Lol proficiancy 3 with your sp on 4 weapons You only need level 4 armor and shield upgrades You only need level 3 in armor plates
You have much to learn.
It must be an amazing to know the only viable skills build, you should patent that before word gets out. 2/10, would not read again. Just surprised you didn't ask 'do you even scout?'... No one uses cardios, kincats are better Complex plates arent worth it Scan precision isnt useful, what are you going to pick up? Only worth getting at 3, rather get more range And level 5 plates cost too much sp for little improvement I use cardios. They were available with level 1 biotics, which made them useful while grinding out biotics 5 for kincats. And I still use them as the lopsided bonus on the enhanced module means my stamina recharge is comparatively quicker, so I am able to recover faster and jump more regularly. Stam recharge as a stat is underrated.
I don't have complex plates, I have level 5 in armor upgrades and level 3 in plates, because any more is a waste for my suits and play style. In fact level 3 is a waste for my current fits, but is still useful when occasionally running my assault suit.
Scan precision is useful for access to the modules and is only a *3 skill, so is also very cheap at 200k SP for level 3, which is what I have and which, strangely, is what you are saying I should have? Along with range amplification at 3, because range is also useful.
Did you, in fact, read my post? |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
566
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Posted - 2014.01.29 13:40:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:In a way I personally really hope there isn't any respec but only because I can't be arsed to put all my 20M SP back into everything because the only thing I'd drop is the level 3 Gallente Medium skill
Yes but what if CCP did it via support ticket like last time?
@brokenrib only thing I think that's not necessary is armor/shield upgrades past level 3. As a scout finishing those skills don't give you much benefit. Only real benefit is on a heavy as their innate stats are so high.
I think getting them to 5 provides ~15 extra HP over level 3
Also I would probably work on core skills before getting weapons past prof 2. Prof skill is an sp sink IMO.
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
461
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:45:00 -
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I hope we do get a respec so I can drop my fully maxed ar
Would be a caveman but whisky and jolly forbidding me to get it changed :_;
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
379
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:50:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:NK Scout wrote:Brokerib wrote:Mordeth Bloodgrave wrote:I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my OCD, all-skills-must-be-level-V, stomach that I will probably go your routes, Appia and Brokerib.... although I may not be able to take 3 suits all the way to proto right off the bat if we get a respec.
Okay, whew, thanks!! I've only just passed 13M SP, so even if we get a respec I won't be able to get one to proto unless I give up on some of my other skills. Even cashing in my Assault SP only gets me to level 4 scout LOLZ you're obviously doing something wrong I have 16.2m sp, im about to get proto in 380k sp I have 3.2 mil in assault dropships, so your doing something wrong. Your probably speced in level 5 shields and armor, so, yea, 1 or the other Medium/Assault dropsuit, not dropship. I'm currently at level 3 mimatar scout, so trading in the advanced assault dropsuit gives me back about 800k, while level 4 scout costs 690k. Level 5 armor and shield upgrades, level 5 biotics, level 3 in core upgrades/electronics/engineering/shield extenders/armor plates/dampening/enhancement/precision/cardio/kincats, level 3 in a number of other module, equipment and weapon skills, and 4 weapons to proficiency 3. Haven't needed anything more than advanced dropsuits so far, but the fitting requirements of cloaks for 1.8 makes the full bonus necessary if I want to keep my regular fits. But thanks for the advice No, I mean assault dropships And wow you wasted so much sp Lol cardio sp Lol precision sp Lol proficiancy 3 with your sp on 4 weapons You only need level 4 armor and shield upgrades You only need level 3 in armor plates You have much to learn.
Wow. So do you ... about being tactful. You can disagree with somebody without being condescending, man...
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
462
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:55:00 -
[8909] - Quote
I would say nk scout was french but the french have more style when being rude
Would be a caveman but whisky and jolly forbidding me to get it changed :_;
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1108
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:03:00 -
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NK Scout wrote: No one uses cardios, kincats are better Complex plates arent worth it Scan precision isnt useful, what are you going to pick up? Only worth getting at 3, rather get more range
And level 5 plates cost too much sp for little improvement
CardRegs: I use cardregs on my BPO and Advanced Uplink, AV and Sniper loadouts. Also run an enhanced cardreg with 2 complex kincats on a Proto knifing loadout. Stamina is Huge. Green pills give you more of it. I use them regularly.
Core Armor vs Armor Upgrades: I agree that leveling Core Armor > 3 doesn't yield much return. On the other hand, leveling Armor Upgrades to 5 is great investment. Even if you don't run Cmp Plates, the bonus added to Bsc and Enh plates makes it worthwhile.
Scan Precision: Precision > 3 isn't a worthwhile investment for a high-end Scout, at the moment. I think we'll see more use for this Core Skill come 1.8.
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