This guy seems to be saying that scouts should be AV suits.

Does that sound stupid to anyone else?

Ok.. I thought the sprint bug was bad enough. Then all the matches have become lag circlejerks.

And now once in awhile when I go ADS the call vehicle/orbital menu pops up.

This game is such a POS.

I'm really looking forward to that little bit more durability as well as the ability to fit ishnoks - I've noticed a huge difference moving from STD to ADV in terms of durability because of the extra shield extender.

Meh. Only if you have complex shields unlocked.
Me, I had a little fun yesterday after I finally unlocked proto knives.

Still had a lot of problems taking down a heavy.
He got me first.
but then i circled around and came back after 60 seconds... took out his friend first, AND him afterwards.
Go figure.

yay for big city maps!

I ran into a squad of 6, and managed to panic them, taking out 2 before the rest locked onto me.
If it was only FW, that would have been a BEEAAUUUtiful bath of friendly fire. sniff..

I am thinking about a creating a thread about what I think is a major imbalance in terms of the ehp range of suits in the game (as in the range is too large). I want to support it with lots of maths, facts and figures from fitting tools etc.

Since I didn't want to wander the labyrinth that is the forum search tool, off the top of your head, has this been done before or would this be something that could be of some benefit?

Not sure if a thorough eHP analysis has been conducted yet. If it has, I haven't seen it.
I'd love to know the maximum eHP of various enemies.

Gunning for the proto Minmatar scout I think. I liked the Gallente but I'm addicted to the speed of the Minja and that knife bonus is sweet.

I'm really looking forward to that little bit more durability as well as the ability to fit ishnoks - I've noticed a huge difference moving from STD to ADV in terms of durability because of the extra shield extender.

EDIT: Additionally, I'm considering attempting a scout threadnaught but I wouldn't dare do it without the assistance of you fine fellows in here. Would you folks be willing to assist me if I were to make a lengthy 'buff scouts' thread?

Weclome aboard mate! You are in for the worst bugs and sweetest kills this here game has to offer.

Definitely go proto scout skill, but fall back on running ADV level suits. Running a proto suit knifer is just too expensive for a marginal payoff. Having the +5% Damp/knife at level 5 is worth it. You will also want to get your knife proficiency up to level 5. You can slash down heavies in 3 slashes... more on that later.

If I may give you some skill suggestions- CPU shortage is going to be your biggest enemy. Get sidearms up to level 5 as it will make ishnoks easier to fit. You will also want Electronics, Engineering, and Cardiac Regs/kin cats at level 5. Eventually, Light weapons and explosives at level 5 to squeeze every inch of CPU you can out of that advanced suit. Combat rifles are minja weapons as well- easiest to fit once you skill them up and just use basic CR.

The basic good template for a knifer-

2xshield extenders
1xCard Reg
1xKin Cat
IshNoks (accept no subsitute. The ZNs are just not enough in todays proto world)
another weapon- CR or SMG are good. (or not. You can fit better modules if you just go knives an dI do it form time to time)
Flux nade (to clear out objectives and make people back off)
compact nano (if you can- heals your weaksauce armor lickety split, and then gives you more flux)


If you can start to fit iterations of the above suit you'll have an easy time knifing. It should cost you about 35K isk as well.

About taking down heavies: The HMG will make your suit slow way down and or go into a crouch like mode. So unfortunately it's not possible to assault them head on. The best is to hit them form the side. Be patient or just move on. Where there is a heavy, there is more reds around to be sure. Best practice is to leap, charge your knives fully, and release just as you are about to land at their side. That might kill them outright. Especially if you are properly skilled up. Either way, immediately start bunny hoping around them in a tight circle slashing them as you go. They can't keep up with that, and you will be wiping them out very quickly. 3 slashes max.

The fourth slash is a doozy. You'll notice at the fourth slash that the sound FX will play, but the animation will not and you will do no damage. If you throw out a melee punch and then resume slashing you will be good to go. Watch out for that.

Been there done that.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125557

Needs more maths, comparisons, etc.
For reference: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
This kind of thing. It depends on how much I can write, but I've committed myself to the scout role at this stage and I feel like I could write something near that length.

I welcome more, scout-specific, info to add to it.

Some things to consider first:

1. scout-specific, please. you probably already realize this, but your example of shields vs armor is not scout specific

2. This is the era of TL;DR. There *is* such a thing as too much information. Sometimes, less is more.

In my opinion, your referenced article is just too long to be compelling. Very few people will read it in its entirety.
That is why I structured the first two posts of my thread, to be first an ultra high-level, brief summary... and the second, to be slightly longer, but still *one sentence* per issue.

Needs more maths, comparisons, etc.
For reference: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
This kind of thing. It depends on how much I can write, but I've committed myself to the scout role at this stage and I feel like I could write something near that length.

Aannnd... still attacking me. Surprise, surprise.

Some people say that intense emotionally driven attacks on someone, actually hide other, more intimate feelings.

Sorry to disappoint you bro, but I dont swing that way.

Needs more maths, comparisons, etc.
For reference: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
This kind of thing. It depends on how much I can write, but I've committed myself to the scout role at this stage and I feel like I could write something near that length.

Additionally, I'm considering attempting a scout threadnaught but I wouldn't dare do it without the assistance of you fine fellows in here. Would you folks be willing to assist me if I were to make a lengthy 'buff scouts' thread?

2. This is the era of TL;DR. There *is* such a thing as too much information. Sometimes, less is more.

This guy seems to be saying that scouts should be AV suits.

Does that sound stupid to anyone else?

No such thing as Too Much Information.

Data is data. The more the better. I trust an article with tons of experiments and supporting data, rather than an article with an idea and a summary.

Doing the investigation and doing research proves that you actually want to do something about this, and without it, the post just looks like you had a passing fancy.

Just my 0.02 ISK on this.

Of course that example isn't particularly relevant.
It was simply an example of something I might try to write.

And yes, it was overly long. But it made the point.
... and now some people even think armour is OP.

This sounds like an interesting project.
I will start on it tomorrow.

EDIT: Additionally, I'm considering attempting a scout threadnaught but I wouldn't dare do it without the assistance of you fine fellows in here. Would you folks be willing to assist me if I were to make a lengthy 'buff scouts' thread?

Aannnd... still attacking me. Surprise, surprise.

Some people say that intense emotionally driven attacks on someone, actually hide other, more intimate feelings.

Sorry to disappoint you bro, but I dont swing that way.