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Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Matticus Monk wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

It's fun, but not running a secondary is just bad tactics.

It's just a different play style. I personally like having to evolve my tactics and understand my limitations to work within a specific situation as opposed to having multiple range options to choose from. It simplifies a lot of situations. Maybe tactically it's not always the best choice, but a lot of times it can be way more effective.

Why? Well, one needs to get close, so the first and only question to be answered in a tactical situation is "how".

Instead of wasting time on multiple questions prior to acting, such as "what weapon should I use in this situation?" "where do I need to be to be most effective with it?" and then, "how do I get there?"

I understand where you are coming from, but I still stand by what I said.

There will be situations where you will want another weapon, and since you have an extra slot, there is no reason why you can't run a basic sidearm, like a basic ScP.

It's great for finding out the limitations of a lot of weapons though. You quickly learn what you can or cannot do with that weapon.

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Cass Caul 661	Posted - 2013.12.31 11:13:00 - [5851] - Quote Is Vicious Li-Moody an alt of Cyrius? +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 473	Posted - 2013.12.31 11:39:00 - [5852] - Quote "Black is the new black" Sounds like Black eagles are up for grabs tomorrow I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 959	Posted - 2013.12.31 11:46:00 - [5853] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: 35. They are stronger than a handheld ADV scanner. And this is a Militia level module. lovely
Scout Registry 192	Posted - 2013.12.31 11:50:00 - [5854] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Is Vicious Li-Moody an alt of Cyrius? Yes. Vicious is Cyrius Li-Moody's tanker alt. He has a video up which features this meme.
Cass Caul 662	Posted - 2013.12.31 20:19:00 - [5855] - Quote He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Scout Registry 205	Posted - 2013.12.31 22:05:00 - [5856] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. LOL! Just checked Dust's Twitter page for Outage info. Noticed a few of Moody's videos featured in their Photo / Media section. Thought that was pretty dang cool :-)
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1050	Posted - 2013.12.31 22:12:00 - [5857] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. LOL! Just checked Dust's Twitter page for Outage info. Noticed a few of Moody's videos featured in their Photo / Media section. Thought that was pretty dang cool :-) Just do you know, I blame you and Moody for the current state of tanks ;P You had to kill one with shotgunsGÇª Walmart tanks CCP "OH crap they are Walmart tanks, even scouts can kill them BUFF TANKS" All your fault KRRROOOOOOM
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2519	Posted - 2013.12.31 22:57:00 - [5858] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. How can you hate condors? Looking For: Corp If a scout runs out of all ammunition behind enemy lines, they did something right.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1519	Posted - 2014.01.01 01:32:00 - [5859] - Quote happy new year all you scoundrels. 20014 is going to be our year! I can almost taste it.... Stay safe and I look forward to stabbing all your hung over asses tomorrow o7 You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 479	Posted - 2014.01.01 01:53:00 - [5860] - Quote Spademan wrote: l'm starting to question everything now. How do we know that this was a killboard and not a kiiiboard? Hey, update on this, after running various tests on the word "Kill" in the title, I can now confirm that they are lowercase L's, not uppercase i's. This is infact a Killboard, not a kiiiboard. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.

Cass Caul 663	Posted - 2014.01.01 02:45:00 - [5861] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. How can you hate condors? because they are nigh unstoppable +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1052	Posted - 2014.01.01 03:21:00 - [5862] - Quote mollerz wrote: happy new year all you scoundrels. 20014 is going to be our year! I can almost taste it.... Stay safe and I look forward to stabbing all your hung over asses tomorrow o7 Aye me boyo KRRROOOOOOM
Scout Registry 211	Posted - 2014.01.01 04:05:00 - [5863] - Quote Spademan wrote: Spademan wrote: l'm starting to question everything now. How do we know that this was a killboard and not a kiiiboard? Hey, update on this, after running various tests on the word "Kill" in the title, I can now confirm that they are lowercase L's, not uppercase i's. This is infact a Killboard, not a kiiiboard. Where were you back when I tried to add Knight Solaire as a contact!? ^ The sneakiest capital "i" I've ever seen! Took me at least 3 tries to figure it out :p
Scout Registry 211	Posted - 2014.01.01 04:08:00 - [5864] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. LOL! Just checked Dust's Twitter page for Outage info. Noticed a few of Moody's videos featured in their Photo / Media section. Thought that was pretty dang cool :-) Just do you know, I blame you and Moody for the current state of tanks ;P You had to kill one with shotgunsGÇª Walmart tanks CCP "OH crap they are Walmart tanks, even scouts can kill them BUFF TANKS" All your fault I may have sht myself laughing, but it wasn't me who called it a "Walmart" tank. ... that was all Musturd. "I ain't scared of no Walmart tank"* Musturd's fault. Not mine. Not Moody's.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1055	Posted - 2014.01.01 04:53:00 - [5865] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. LOL! Just checked Dust's Twitter page for Outage info. Noticed a few of Moody's videos featured in their Photo / Media section. Thought that was pretty dang cool :-) Just do you know, I blame you and Moody for the current state of tanks ;P You had to kill one with shotgunsGÇª Walmart tanks CCP "OH crap they are Walmart tanks, even scouts can kill them BUFF TANKS" All your fault I may have sht myself laughing, but it wasn't me who called it a "Walmart" tank. ... that was all Musturd. "I ain't scared of no Walmart tank"* Musturd's fault. Not mine. Not Moody's. Then it's all on Mustard KRRROOOOOOM
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 876	Posted - 2014.01.01 06:01:00 - [5866] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: It's fun, but not running a secondary is just bad tactics. It's just a different play style. I personally like having to evolve my tactics and understand my limitations to work within a specific situation as opposed to having multiple range options to choose from. It simplifies a lot of situations. Maybe tactically it's not always the best choice, but a lot of times it can be way more effective. Why? Well, one needs to get close, so the first and only question to be answered in a tactical situation is "how". Instead of wasting time on multiple questions prior to acting, such as "what weapon should I use in this situation?" "where do I need to be to be most effective with it?" and then, "how do I get there?" I understand where you are coming from, but I still stand by what I said. There will be situations where you will want another weapon, and since you have an extra slot, there is no reason why you can't run a basic sidearm, like a basic ScP. It's great for finding out the limitations of a lot of weapons though. You quickly learn what you can or cannot do with that weapon. Definitely - I agree there are many situations where the lack of a second weapon is tactically a poor choice, especially given that I consistently run a sidearm. It puts me in tune with my play-style and allows me to quickly recognize what scenarios I can be most effective in and what situations I don't even bother approaching, though. ... Happy New Year scouts! Here is looking towards the future of scoutly antics, keeping New Eden's medium frame's on their toes, and making sure that EZ mode mercs across the land are relentlessly hunted down and sent back to the CRU with extreme prejudice.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 876	Posted - 2014.01.01 06:08:00 - [5867] - Quote mollerz wrote: happy new year all you scoundrels. 20014 is going to be our year! I can almost taste it.... Stay safe and I look forward to stabbing all your hung over asses tomorrow o7 LOL! I just noticed the year you typed.... :) Not sure if that was a joke or just a typo but that sounds about right for when Scouts will rise to fame and fortune.... Peace dude. I guess I better really find the secret to immortality to see my class succeed.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 425	Posted - 2014.01.01 06:16:00 - [5868] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Cass Caul wrote: He's a very annoying Condor. I hate him, forever. LOL! Just checked Dust's Twitter page for Outage info. Noticed a few of Moody's videos featured in their Photo / Media section. Thought that was pretty dang cool :-) Just do you know, I blame you and Moody for the current state of tanks ;P You had to kill one with shotgunsGÇª Walmart tanks CCP "OH crap they are Walmart tanks, even scouts can kill them BUFF TANKS" All your fault I may have sht myself laughing, but it wasn't me who called it a "Walmart" tank. ... that was all Musturd. "I ain't scared of no Walmart tank"* Musturd's fault. Not mine. Not Moody's. Then it's all on Mustard Colonel mustard...... in the registry.....with a shotgun PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Cass Caul 663	Posted - 2014.01.01 06:19:00 - [5869] - Quote YC116! +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Cass Caul 665	Posted - 2014.01.01 11:13:00 - [5870] - Quote ugh. ran into the focused scanner. was pulled out in PC just for me. invalidated my scout build entirely . Ended up using Logi after that happened. +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 483	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:27:00 - [5871] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Spademan wrote: Spademan wrote: l'm starting to question everything now. How do we know that this was a killboard and not a kiiiboard? Hey, update on this, after running various tests on the word "Kill" in the title, I can now confirm that they are lowercase L's, not uppercase i's. This is infact a Killboard, not a kiiiboard. Where were you back when I tried to add Knight Solaire as a contact!? ^ The sneakiest capital "i" ... ever! Took me at least 3 tries to figure it out :p Hah, sorry, let me know if you have any other l I situations that you want investigated I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Scout Registry 224	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:53:00 - [5872] - Quote Lots and lots of ~~good~~ great matches today with you guys. Axel, Demon, Fusion, Dev ... had a blast :-) 20 or so matches ... Mostly wins, maybe one or two losses ... lots and lots of fun :-) Then we pick up Jolly Roger. He must be bad luck :p https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133086&find=unread
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1062	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:21:00 - [5873] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Lots and lots of ~~good~~ great matches today with you guys. Axel, Demon, Fusion, Dev ... had a blast :-) 20 or so matches ... Mostly wins, maybe one or two losses ... lots and lots of fun :-) Then we pick up Jolly Roger. He must be bad luck :p https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133086&find=unread Put my two bits on what might contribute to the lag there. Had a simiar experience against Cubs and crew, but they had not bombed the specific areas, it was spread across the whole facility as battles happened, so rep hives were everywhere. It did not seem to be a deliberate attempt to lag, at least from my perspective, but it was harder to deal with because it was so spread out KRRROOOOOOM
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 963	Posted - 2014.01.02 04:20:00 - [5874] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: ugh. ran into the focused scanner. was pulled out in PC just for me. invalidated my scout build entirely . Great Any thoughts on this CCP? How can we scouts escape from this piece of highly-advanced technology? Are we talking about 2 complex prof. damps? 3? 4?! (with level 5 scout) So the whole fitting would be just hiding from one equipment? Is that ok? Minjas are screwed then with 2 lows. JUSTICE.
J0LLY R0G3R Tickle My Null-Sac 283	Posted - 2014.01.02 04:45:00 - [5875] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: ~~Good~~ great games today with you guys. Axel, Demon, Fusion, Dev ... had a blast :-) 20 or so matches ... Mostly wins, maybe one or two losses ... lots and lots of fun :-) Then we pick up Jolly Roger. He must be bad luck :p https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133086&find=unread XD Yeah, that match was horrendous. I am starting to believe if there is a cpm on the enemy team, said enemy team feels they need to show whats bad about the game to the utmost of their ability. Lagbomb/tankspam I'm looking at you. XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Cass Caul 668	Posted - 2014.01.02 06:09:00 - [5876] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Scout Registry wrote: ~~Good~~ great games today with you guys. Axel, Demon, Fusion, Dev ... had a blast :-) 20 or so matches ... Mostly wins, maybe one or two losses ... lots and lots of fun :-) Then we pick up Jolly Roger. He must be bad luck :p https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133086&find=unread XD Yeah, that match was horrendous. I am starting to believe if there is a cpm on the enemy team, said enemy team feels they need to show whats bad about the game to the utmost of their ability. Lagbomb/tankspam I'm looking at you. have you ever played wth the CPMs, they're kinda some of the worst players in the game. Kain is probably the best of them, because he is a forge gunner. But I was squaded with him today and he was just giving out some of the worst advice ever. This is why they use the most infuriating tactics in squads. not because they are the ones oing it, but because they tell other people how to do it -and don't think people will. +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2523	Posted - 2014.01.02 06:13:00 - [5877] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: have you ever played wth the CPMs, they're kinda some of the worst players in the game. Kain is probably the best of them, because he is a forge gunner. But I was squaded with him today and he was just giving out some of the worst advice ever. This is why they use the most infuriating tactics in squads. not because they are the ones oing it, but because they tell other people how to do it -and don't think people will. It's not like we voted them in though so of course their skill level was not accounted for. Does anyone remember those red Caldari flags in Manus Peak in early (pretranquility) chromosome?
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix 1420	Posted - 2014.01.02 06:16:00 - [5878] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Scout Registry wrote: ~~Good~~ great games today with you guys. Axel, Demon, Fusion, Dev ... had a blast :-) 20 or so matches ... Mostly wins, maybe one or two losses ... lots and lots of fun :-) Then we pick up Jolly Roger. He must be bad luck :p https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133086&find=unread XD Yeah, that match was horrendous. I am starting to believe if there is a cpm on the enemy team, said enemy team feels they need to show whats bad about the game to the utmost of their ability. Lagbomb/tankspam I'm looking at you. have you ever played wth the CPMs, they're kinda some of the worst players in the game. Kain is probably the best of them, because he is a forge gunner. But I was squaded with him today and he was just giving out some of the worst advice ever. This is why they use the most infuriating tactics in squads. not because they are the ones oing it, but because they tell other people how to do it -and don't think people will. So Kain is the best of the worst? That's sad. I awoxed Amarr FW for one match yesterday (I was bored, and it was the last match of the night. For the record, I felt like a B*tch, and I'll probably never do it again.), and even knifing every blue dot that came close to me (and every red dot in between) I still did better than him on the scoreboard. Hell, I actually did better than half the team. AND I wasn't kicked. Surprised to say the least. Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
Cass Caul 670	Posted - 2014.01.02 07:02:00 - [5879] - Quote Niuvo wrote: Cass Caul wrote: ugh. ran into the focused scanner. was pulled out in PC just for me. invalidated my scout build entirely . Great Any thoughts on this CCP? How can we scouts escape from this piece of highly-advanced technology? Are we talking about 2 complex prof. damps? 3? 4?! (with level 5 scout) So the whole fitting would be just hiding from one equipment? Is that ok? Minjas are screwed then with 2 lows. JUSTICE. This has only been like the second time it has happened. (it's been 10 battles with it, but the first time it was like 8 games in one day and now 3 games in a row again). it's like, that was my one advantage over med-frame&shotguns or really just the only time shotguns are viable in PC is when flanking and dampened. . . Good thing I have those 3 other proto suits and 3 other light weapons +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦ one of 47% of gamers
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 565	Posted - 2014.01.02 15:18:00 - [5880] - Quote A heavy is hacking our supply depot just around the corner from me and I cant see him on tac-net ???? We ask for these changes to assist in the scout role but he blanket changes aid all classes and nullify any benefit we would have.



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